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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 16, 2017 12:31 PM              Reply w/Quote
The world is storming with an important event this week: the inauguration of Donald Trump as POTUS. A controversial, highly debated topic, but we as astrologers can't shy away from our role to understand and predict world events.

For those interested, I would like to hear and discuss astrological opinions on:

- his natal chart analysis (personality, destiny)

- transits and progressions

- inauguration day - 20th of January

- subsequent events: protests or manifestations, such as Women's March on the 21st

- how the mandate starts or what it may lead to, the first 100 days, etc.

- his chart impact on the US, or inauguration day vs US, if we can decide which US chart to use

- anything you deem relevant, astrologically, about Donald Trump

In order to avoid the thread to go other places, figuratively or not, please don't post opinions that have no astrological reference . Thank you.

If you want to discuss Donald Trump in a non-astrological manner, you are welcome to come on my thread here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/003207.html or on the other threads in GU 2.0.

Here you can see his diurnal chart for inauguration day and some talk about it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/237075-2.html

Donald Trump natal chart/transits


What do you think?

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posted January 16, 2017 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
I see someone who's more sensitive than he likes to admit. He has a Cancer stellium.

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posted January 16, 2017 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown        Reply w/Quote
The next 2 saturn transits will hit his cancer stellium and his angles. So i expect if he does last 4 years, there'll be major problems with his family. Saturn opposition transit is very challenging.

His mars in leo has been helping him with the Sag Saturn transit but Capricorn Saturn would hit him hard.

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posted January 16, 2017 01:37 PM              Reply w/Quote
Good point, Sulky. Venus/Saturn can be prone to insecurities and high sensitivity, and it all happens on the 5th/11th axis (loving and feeling loved), there is also an interception there, and it all is projected in the 11th house (admiration, attention) with Saturn ruling intercepted 5th. With those planets in the 11th though, it looks as if he can't hide his sensitivities, don't you think? at least after some point (interception).

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posted January 16, 2017 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I see someone who's more sensitive than he likes to admit. He has a Cancer stellium.

He is very sensitive and his Mars on the AC will strike back and destroy you if you attack him. He said in one of the episodes of the apprentice that when someone talks bad about him he will never ever forget them and openly admitted he is very sensitive, you can tell he meant it that he takes that seriously and doesnt forget.

The media always focuses on what he says but not why he says it or who provoked him, he will strike back no matter who you are, he wont treat you differently bc of your gender or anything else, if you cross him you cross him.

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posted January 16, 2017 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees        Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct the Ac-Mars has the effect of making the body energized(but only for a little while whilst the interest lasts). But nevertheless the person may be unable to sit still, must always be busy "doing" something.

There is little wonder that he married more than once and took a younger woman as his wife as he might have strong passions and a high sex drive. Mars conjunct Ac inspires others and wants to be inspired too.

Disease is "burned" away through sheer will and a fighting spirit. Zest for life and an independent nature that seeks to be themselves regardless of what others think and say. Little keeps these folks down for long.

I think the fact that most people are weary of him is testament to that: someone whom people respond to either in one way or another-as is the nature of Mars.No "in between" or indifference.

Sun in 10th- "I rule the world". Someone who wants to be at the very top, thinks themselves very important and "royal". Is usually the "authority" and finds it difficult to follow others leadership if they disagree(which is usually 90% of the time). Mixes with celebrity/high class, "roll out the red carpet",loves pomp and ceremony,high self esteem,knows themselves to be "the best",a very domineering and authoritative parental figure.

Moon in 4th house-May have moved around a lot or is sentimental about ideas of family and feeling a sense of belonging, home and childhood.Patriotic and protective of home or land of birth, interior design,domesticated,heart is in the home,keeps family close, ties that bind are very important, loyal,cares in a protective "motherly meddling" ways, comfortable home or is interested in owning/maintaining real estate. Parental figure that was emotional and supportive.

I see Mars/Asc conjunct a lot with him. No other personality factor stands out so vividly. And his love for keeping it straight and simple(even if uncomfortable) is classic Mars straightforwardness.

But I think his chart was rectified to give a Sag Asc? Can't remember where I saw that though

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posted January 16, 2017 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne        Reply w/Quote
He is very sensitive and his Mars on the AC will strike back and destroy you if you attack him. He said in one of the episodes of the apprentice that when someone talks bad about him he will never ever forget them and openly admitted he is very sensitive, you can tell he meant it that he takes that seriously and doesnt forget.

The media always focuses on what he says but not why he says it or who provoked him, he will strike back no matter who you are, he wont treat you differently bc of your gender or anything else, if you cross him you cross him.

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posted January 16, 2017 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune        Reply w/Quote
Well nothing in his chart screams to me that he is totally insane, the thing is just that he sure is lol... He isn't a nice guy, besides maybe at home and he truly cares for his own family (and himself) but I don't see him as someone who will do much good in politics, and definitely not for our planet as a whole... his jupiter also seems really weak, for someone who is going to lead such a huge and influential country. He seems weak to me, someone who cannot do what is right and do what it takes, he just sits over there in his little corner with his twitter profile and loves to hear himself speak, but what good does this do? NOTHING

Someone told me he must've had a difficult childhood, perhaps he even got bullied? Not much indicate this in his chart, but I think a cancer venus in 11th house conjunction saturn probably got a huge issue dealing with other people in groups, but other times this is also the only place he get some inner shine and satisfaction....it can be a toxic combination at least

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posted January 16, 2017 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30        Reply w/Quote
Anything in astrology that could predict danger in his life?

He is at high risk of someone or some organization putting his life at risk.

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posted January 16, 2017 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

But I think his chart was rectified to give a Sag Asc? Can't remember where I saw that though

He strikes me as a Leo Rising.

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He strikes me as a Leo Rising.

I'd have to say the same, I wonder what Kannon thinks. I didn't see a Sag rectification for him.

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posted January 16, 2017 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Anything in astrology that could predict danger in his life?

He is at high risk of someone or some organization putting his life at risk.


By being President, his life is already at risk. That's why Presidents and their family have Secret Service to protect them.

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posted January 16, 2017 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
He has sun conjunct NN, and I've been especially fascinated by his draconic chart and the draconic transits.

Here is his draconic chart, draconic transits on Election Day:

5 Gemini, transiting draconic sun
5 Gemini, his draconic Mars

14 Cancer, transiting draconic Venus
15 Cancer, his draconic Neptune

2 Taurus, transiting draconic Jupiter
3-4 Taurus, his draconic Venus-Saturn

29 Virgo, transiting draconic Neptune
0 Libra, his draconic moon

^^ A lot of romantic energy here. Men and women romanticizing him.

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Now things have been changing, and on Inauguration Day:

26 Leo, transiting draconic sun
26 Leo, his tropical Mars

(See that sun-Mars repetition? Similar to Election Day.)

16 Scorpio, transiting draconic Uranus
18 Taurus, transiting draconic Jupiter
19 Taurus, his draconic Pluto

^ More of a somber theme. And check out these links between his natal/tropical chart and the draconic transits

19 Cancer, transiting draconic Saturn
23 Cancer, his tropical Saturn

6 Libra, transiting draconic Neptune
5 Libra, his tropical Neptune

13 Leo, transiting draconic Pluto
10 Leo, his tropical Pluto

14 Libra, his tropical Chiron
17 Libra, transiting draconic Chiron

^ Almost like he is a representative of the draconic "times" we are in, as defined by outer planets?

His natal Juno-Chiron-Jupiter @ 13-17° Libra will be conjunct transiting draconic Venus-Chiron-Mars @ 13-19° Libra.

So again there is this romantic energy: Neptune, Mars, Venus. The tropical planets may be squaring his sun and there is no shortage of dislike for this person, but those same planets in draconic are more or less conjunct his tropical Jupiter. Which helps account for the fact that some people think of him as an almost god-like figure. Jupiter.

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posted January 16, 2017 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30        Reply w/Quote
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By being President, his life is already at risk. That's why Presidents and their family have Secret Service to protect them.

Yes I know that but are their any transits that can predict an assassination attempt? I'm not very strong on transits so that is why I asked.

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Ah, that Cancer stellium. I've seen him get very choked up talking about his father, his children, and especially his brother who died far too soon due to alcohol abuse. I think he tries to hide that side, but he loves his family.

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posted January 16, 2017 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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posted January 16, 2017 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine        Reply w/Quote
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Ah, that Cancer stellium. I've seen him get very choked up talking about his father, his children, and especially his brother who died far too soon due to alcohol abuse. I think he tries to hide that side, but he loves his family.

Have you noticed how everyone ends up in his living room at Trump Tower.

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Have you noticed how everyone ends up in his living room at Trump Tower.

How often are you and Randall there?

The thing is, as a low-evolution Gemini, he's got the good side and bad side. People argue about which face is real. Both are real, but the bad side is so obvious, it makes people fear him as a President. And some people are so enamored with the good side, they look outright delusional to others.

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posted January 17, 2017 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine        Reply w/Quote
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The thing is, as a low-evolution Gemini, he's got the good side and bad side. People argue about which face is real. Both are real, but the bad side is so obvious, it makes people fear him as a President. And some people are so enamored with the good side, they look outright delusional to others.

Are you implying that a Gemini is a scarier prospect than a Scorpio?

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posted January 17, 2017 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
@Nine,

no offense to Geminis, but nothing is more scarier than a shadow Scorpio! LOL!

Except perhaps a shadow Capricorn.

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Are you implying that a Gemini is a scarier prospect than a Scorpio?

Lots of serial killers have gen and Pisces moon

I don't see Scorpio moons going out and Jill ppl and go back to life as normal human beings...


So yes. I'd pick controlling but sane over impulsive and immoral. And yes i see the habit of contradicting oneself as a sign of a lack of moral backbone, opportunism, and to some level psychopathy (i.e. Pathological liar)

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posted January 17, 2017 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Why talk about Scorpio?

The topic is Trump.

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hmm I'm still searching for leader qualities in his chart.

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posted January 17, 2017 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Why talk about Scorpio?

The topic is Trump.


Because Trump was the people choice, irrespective of his vices, because the alternative was 1000x scarier.

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posted January 17, 2017 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine        Reply w/Quote
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hmm I'm still searching for leader qualities in his chart.

Leo Mars & Asc for leadership. Sagittarius Moon for inspiration.

Here is a man although born into wealth made a name for himself. He passed this on to his children, they were born into money, yet he wanted them to stand on their own merits.

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