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Topic: An Answer for Pluto
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PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:15 PM
 
I would also like to state, that in spite of fighting with ONE MAIN PERSON, a name I will not mention, after finding out more about her background and life, felt remorseful for being so blunt with her.I understand that the American way of discussing things is not the British way. Their customary and "social class" way of speaking is not the same as mine. So, TO HER specifically, I would like to apologize. Not to be friendly. Not to influence her, just for her to know SPECIFICALLY that I can respect that she has grown up in a differnt world than I, and that I do believe that she is capable of caring and loving others. I also hope that she will feel comfortable coming back to Lindaland, at some point. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
Knowflake Posts: 318
From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:16 PM
Hi Randall - sorry I missed this thread when I posted my own.[quote] If someone comes in here and angrily posts inflammtory words [quote] True sometimes people are unnecessarily rude and inflammatory and these people would deserve to be banned. But there have been times lately on LL when such angry reactions were triggered by passive-aggressive behaviour that is not very obvious. Such passive aggressive people can also be trolls..and you should keep a look out. That was partially my point in the other thread. Because one passive aggressive person can incite 20 to anger.. And so you might ban the 20... But is that really the best thing to do?
I am not saying that this is definitely what happened, but I have the sense that it could be a very real possibility.
I mention this primarily because I have heard about this person's past forum.. And they seem to have been involved in it's destruction.
As per my thread - it could just be coincidental..
My hunch is that it isn't. I trust your intelligence. I really do. It's just that on a forum with so many people, so many conversations going on at the same time, sometimes it's easy to miss the fine print. IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 1760
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:16 PM
i was always taught that assuming is rude...so, consequently, you insulted me by assuming i didnt see what you said------------------
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katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 5766
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 26, 2010 06:17 PM
to go back to the opening post here, and juni's quote from PS, what i wonder is if everyone who doesn't like the way the place runs should LEAVE, why PS ever joined in the first place? i am not suggesting she shouldn't have, but suggesting there is a double standard at play there. what has upset people here has been stated over and over again. a couple of people took issue with the public canoodling going on in SPITR, NOT WITH THE FORUM OR ITS STATED CONTENT, and the censorship began.. i'll repeat that the censorship began. this is not about any forum, any one person, and certainly not about missing daddy-love. it is about censorship and double standards. and while every person who objected to lara is standing firm on their "right to be themselves" i gather lara is the designated "patient" in this family RIGHT NOW? ie SHE has NOT the right to be HERself? nor diandra, nor chryseis, even DD for ----sake? banning individuals who stand firm in their convictions is just papering over the cracks. lara has rubbed plenty of people up the wrong way...until they got to know her...and it was always worked out between the individuals involved. not once have i seen her go below the belt like some other former members. i asked the other day how randall knew someone was loyal after just meeting them. he claimed to have reason and i left it at that. but every single person who has kept at this until we got here was DOING SO OUT OF LOYALTY. and they have been here a long time proving that loyalty. some chose to be banned FOR THAT LOYALTY. disagreement is sometimes necessary.
moderator or no, it is kind of rude to walk into a new friends' home and start throwing out the furniture because it isn't to your taste. and host or no, there's no party without the guests.
edit: ps for PS i was writing while you were posting. i appreciate your new understanding. there was also the aspect of too much aries in the room perhaps? IP: Logged |
emitres
Knowflake Posts: 105
From:
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:18 PM
can i add my own two cents? firecracker - thank you personally, i'm finding it a little
frustrating that a few people here have
starting taking the liberty of speaking
for others, including speaking for Randall...
please stop... Randall is more than
capable of speaking for himself as are
the rest of us... and please please please
could those of you who are young twenty-
somethings stop behaving as if you have
all the answers? yes, there is much that
we can learn from you but could you
admit that perhaps you could also learn
from those of us who have been around the
block a few more times? sometimes just
listening without commenting is the
wisest course of action... ------------------
If you pull it too tightly, the string will break. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:21 PM
Katatonic,to go back to the opening post here, and juni's quote from PS, what i wonder is if everyone who doesn't like the way the place runs should LEAVE, why PS ever joined in the first place? i am not suggesting she shouldn't have, but suggesting there is a double standard at play there. I joined for the sake of ASTROLOGY. Not for the sake of the established social structure. In fact, I did not take the time to even study the structure here before posting. If you keep that in mind when you look back over my posts, I think you will understand better my point of view. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:24 PM
Katatonic,Thank you. I apologize for my insensitivity. Genuinely. I am at fault, and I am accepting full responsibility for my ignorance and "aries" blindness. Please accept my responsibility, and understand that my nature is just to plow forward without studying things, before I speak. IP: Logged |
firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:26 PM
i just showed you the definition of insult. please show me where i insulted you or stop LYING and saying i insulted you. read the definition and show me where i did it, or stop projecting your issues on me. how about now.IP: Logged |
pire
Knowflake Posts: 1549
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 26, 2010 06:26 PM
emitres, I agree, age  PS as ps, il y a beaucoup d'étrangers sur ce forum. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:27 PM
firecracker,You sound like me, now. Does it matter the definition of "insult"? She felt insulted. IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 1760
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:27 PM
i told you, you assumed i didnt see what you wrote, and as i stated i was taught that assuming was rude and as you stated in the definition that a part of an insult was being rude so YOU INSULTED ME BY ASSUMING THAT I DIDNT DO SOMETHING...do i have to directly quote what you said to me initally and the definition?------------------
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katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 5766
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 26, 2010 06:28 PM
i added a ps for you in my post PS. i appreciate that you have reconsidered a few things. sometimes that is the way things happen, here and elsewhere. "flaming" is something that has a wide definition range IMO. what some call flaming others call prying, still others call flying the banner for truth.i have said it before but i think lara has done this site a HUGE service in keeping the question open. someone had to do it. sweeping things under the rug creates a truce, not peace OR understanding. now the phoenix can hopefully rise. i doubt very much if those banned will email for forgiveness, since they were doing what THEY thought was right. IP: Logged |
firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:31 PM
when you correct someone, as you did in that thread, and then you are educated on the subject and found to be in the wrong, you should acknowledge that. that is called manners.i assumed you did not read it because you did not acknowledge that you had. that is not insulting. that is common sense, right? IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 1760
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:32 PM
i already told you why i didnt respond to it....look back at one of my responses to you on this thread and you'll see it------------------
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firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:33 PM
feeling insulted is not being insulted. re read the definition. don't ever tell me i insulted you, until by definition i do. thank you very much.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:34 PM
Firecracker,when you correct someone, as you did in that thread, and then you are educated on the subject and found to be in the wrong, you should acknowledge that. that is called manners. i assumed you did not read it because you did not acknowledge that you had. that is not insulting. that is common sense, right? I am confused, now. Please reference without using names the material that you are speaking about. And, I will answer you. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 546
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 26, 2010 06:34 PM
I have 6 fixed signs, one fire, Airies in Venus so I am careful with fire, it can burn a whole room down  I admit I don`t have a true handle on water and fire signs but they are my teachers in so many ways and I do try to learn seeing things thru their eyes.. Hopefully that helps explain my doggedness  ------------------
What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
NickiG
Moderator Posts: 1760
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:36 PM
"nickyg never did go back to the prenup thread where i showed her by definition that a dowry is a gift to the husband. know your subjects.""y definition:
insult:1. to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront
by definition i did not insult you. if you took it that way, that is your problem," note the part about "rudeness"...i was taught that assuming was rude...so you insulted me...and i already told you why i didnt respond to you ------------------
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firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:37 PM
pluto, it was not to you, i was speaking to nickyg. i appreciate the fact that you apologized for the other thing. sall good. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:39 PM
firecracker,feeling insulted is not being insulted. YES. You are completely RIGHT about that. However, sometimes, for the sake of peace and caring about someone else's feelings, we apologize or alter our methods of speaking. I am not going to preach to you, seeing my position  Only recommend that it's the "grace" that works as the oil in the gears of this world. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 3108
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:41 PM
Firecracker
At the risk of stepping in when I am not wanted --do you have a deeper root you want to say to Nicki like you don't like that she is a Mod or that she and Randall are tight.
I mean--minutae , Girlfriend---please with the definition of insults  This is like when the couple splits over the toothpaste  ------------------
Pluto conjunct Dejaneria, Bruh. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
Moderator Posts: 1553
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:41 PM
Ok, gotcha, firecracker.IP: Logged |
firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:41 PM
Rudeness is a display of disrespectfulness by not complying with the social "laws" or etiquette of a group or culture.you did not respond. i was taught responding when you are spoken to is manners. had you responded, i would have known you read it. common sense led me to believe you read it, otherswise not responding is somewhat rude.
like i said, don't ever tell me i insulted you again until by definition i do. got it? good.
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NickiG
Moderator Posts: 1760
From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:43 PM
i quoted your own definition...so by ASSUMING you were RUDE...did you forget your own definition of what an insult is? and again I TOLD YOU WHY I DIDNT RESPOND!!! for the last time....go look back to what i said to you------------------
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firecracker
Knowflake Posts: 111
From: all places
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 26, 2010 06:44 PM
no ami, my issue is, certain people can say someone has been insulting when they have not and randall is very sensitive to that right now, so if you say i insulted you, you better show me where. that is not too much to ask. r-e-s-p-e-c-t, find out what it means to me. i am owed an apology.IP: Logged |
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