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Unmoved
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posted November 26, 2010 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
The least most of us were, when the new Mods were appointed, was congratulatory. This has nothing to do with people being upset because new members were made Mods. I was not here for even 9 months when I was made a mod.

My issue with PlutoSquared is that she made other Mods look bad by her behaviour. Unfortunately, even though we are individuals, the members and onlookers do lump us all together as "the Mods". I found it very inconsiderate that PlutoSquared didn't see that her actions, even though she can do whatever she wants, affected other people.

It is hard to keep one's cool all the time. I've been insulted here so many times, and each time I had to bite my tongue and put my ego aside. And, so after all that hard work of striving to lead by example, PlutoSquared swoops down like a hawk and destroys all that effort I've made? This didn't make me happy at all.

And, for sure, if I didn't give Randall the benefit of the doubt with his choices, and if I wasn't a Mod, I'd be banned because PlutoSquared disrespected not only the people she was addressing, but everyone who had tried hard to keep this community evolved.

I have nothing personal against you PlutoSquared. At some point I thought you were awesome. I hope you really think more of the good of whole system than just the self.

I can come off harsh when I'm unhappy, so I will understand if you don't take this well.

And, Ami, I see Randall as an equal and he treats us, or at least me, like one. I appreciate that from him.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker
I assume you were close to T and that was VERY hard , to see her leave and the terrible feelings that arose from that but please lets talk about THAT if you want not this level of semantics

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Pluto conjunct Dejaneria, Bruh.

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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted November 26, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
You have a condescending tone, Firecracker. Do you realize that? I do that myself and sometimes am not aware at the time. You would not want someone talking to you that way. It is my wish to leave this string open for constructive conversation, but I don't want it to be just another excuse to start a fight.

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"The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children."

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
ok randall, i will step away. but i dont like being told i insulted someone when i very clearly did not. its cool.

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NickiG
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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted November 26, 2010 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE QUOTED WHERE YOU INSULTED ME AND I TOLD YOU WHY, *WHY*, I DINDT RESPOND now go look back to what i said as to why i didnt...if anyone deserves an apology it is me being insulting from ASSUMING

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 26, 2010 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
PLEASE, let's not win the battles and "lose the war"...

I am trying to set an example, and accept all responsibility here.

All of US are different. But, All of us are HUMAN.

Let's focus on a common goal?

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
so nickg ..was ami just rude to me be assuming something about me? please answer.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2010 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker
I think it is wisdom to let the insult thing go cuz it is a discussion which is not solvable,IMO
If you have ANOTHER issue, please bring that up ,if you need to talk about it such as your pain about losing T.

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Pluto conjunct Dejaneria, Bruh.

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NickiG
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posted November 26, 2010 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
yes, she was, ami please apologize

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
i assume you read her post. is that rude? no. people make assumptions every day. good social skills require manners, i am trying not to be condescending here, if you had responded, i would have known you saw my reply. that is manners for social networking. manners. thats all. not being condescending

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Randall
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posted November 26, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Firecracker. D*amn, you picked the right name!

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
fine fine fine...walking away.

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juniperb
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posted November 26, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed! We all know we can`t read the body`s energy here so when we shout in caps or do a post in bold, it comes across stronger then we intend ( most times anyhow).

I see many people doing an excellent job at resolving the genuine issue here and digressing will harm the over all good being done.

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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NickiG
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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted November 26, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
i apologize for not replying to your definition of what a dowry was...but i wanted to double check before i had apologized for being mistaken

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 26, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved,

My issue with PlutoSquared is that she made other Mods look bad by her behaviour. Unfortunately, even though we are individuals, the members and onlookers do lump us all together as "the Mods". I found it very inconsiderate that PlutoSquared didn't see that her actions, even though she can do whatever she wants, affected other people.

It is hard to keep one's cool all the time. I've been insulted here so many times, and each time I had to bite my tongue and put my ego aside. And, so after all that hard work of striving to lead by example, PlutoSquared swoops down like a hawk and destroys all that effort I've made? This didn't make me happy at all.

And, for sure, if I didn't give Randall the benefit of the doubt with his choices, and if I wasn't a Mod, I'd be banned because PlutoSquared disrespected not only the people she was addressing, but everyone who had tried hard to keep this community evolved.

I have nothing personal against you PlutoSquared. At some point I thought you were awesome. I hope you really think more of the good of whole system than just the self.

Unmoved,

I am very sorry for the way that my behavior reflected onto you. I did NOT take my position as seriously as you did. I did NOT realize the effort and love that you put into your job. And, also, I would never INTEND or want you to be diminished by my rash and impulsive behavior.

Please realize that this impression was at its core - ME - and not judge the forum or Randall for my carelessness.

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
thank you nickyg. for acknowledging it. i was not trying to insult you.

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NickiG
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posted November 26, 2010 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
then all is forgiven

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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2010 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker
I have known you for a long time. I respect you a LOT.
I think you are flipping out today in an uncharacteristic manner.
Therefore, I think you should talk about what is really bothering you , here, or to people ,privately.
I think you were horribly rude to me , today, but I handled it and deflected it.
If I was not able to, another fight would have started.
Yes, I think you have been VERY rude throughout this whole thing, Firecracker, and I am surprised .
I ,always, saw you as more of someone to assuage problems and help work them out ,not to escalate them.
I think you are and have escalated them.

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firecracker
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posted November 26, 2010 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
please show me where i was rude to you today? must i defend myself all night...fugget it. ami, i see you as having escalated them. one of us is right.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2010 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
On the closed thread, Firecracker---VERY rude but I can handle it so it was "ok" but you still were.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2010 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker
Do you have any other deeper issues to discuss about losing your friends, not liking me as a person,not liking some of the new Mod's etc
Please speak it now and then lets go back to being friends as much as we and everyone else can.
What do you say?????

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Azalaksh
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posted November 26, 2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved may be staying, but I have resigned my Moderator post for the reasons she spells out in her post above.
Thank you all for joining me in this wonderful journey (up until a week or so ago)
This was a magical place once.....

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 26, 2010 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

firecracker is like me, in the sense, that she will probably not approach things in the same manner that you will...

I realize that firecracker was hurt in the way she expressed herself earlier, but she is truly trying to be friendly and understanding.

I can only be so much of a medium ground, because I just don't have the natural grace, otherwise.

Please, let's just all forgive the chasm of misunderstanding, apologize for what we do not understand about each other, and move on...

Because at the heart of this all, for everyone, WE WANT to be part of a community of people, to learn and share?

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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted November 26, 2010 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Firecracker, I will propose a draw.
We are both right in some ways and both wrong in some ways.
Do you accept?

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 26, 2010 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
For what it's worth, I knew NickiG was wrong about the dowry thing from the beginning (it was my comment that she replied to) but I chose to let it go (although I did appreciate Firecracker looking it up so that she would know the correct definition of "dowry" vs. "dower")

Two lessons here--don't abandon a thread in the middle of a conversation with someone and sometimes it's not worth it to be like a dog with a bone about things.

An overall theme here is RESPECT but also knowing when to leave things alone. The tendency to want to be right at any cost has almost destroyed this place. Everyone is at fault.

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