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jwhop
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posted August 01, 2010 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Palin: Obama lacks 'the cojones' to tackle immigration
By Matt DeLong

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Sunday that Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) has "the cojones" that President Obama "does not have" to take on illegal immigration. Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Palin blasted Obama for suing Arizona to block the state's controversial new law without addressing "sanctuary cities" -- in which local law enforcement are prohibited from asking people about their immigration status.....
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/palin-obama-lacks-the-cojones.html

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posted August 05, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama’s Predictable, Tiring, Ineffective Lecture; Would Someone Call Him on the Hypocrisy, Please?
Yesterday at 2:04pm
Sarah Palin

Congress’ approval rating is at 11% because politicians thwart the will of the people, explode our national debt, and practice reckless deficit spending while hoping we’ll sit down and shut up about their nonsensical agenda. President Obama just made the AFL-CIO suffer through another “Blame Bush” lecture today as he, as usual, put the car in reverse and looked backward to find someone else to blame for problems he helped cause and now aggressively perpetuates.

Okay, Mr. President, you tell us we have to keep looking backward (as we’re steered toward the cliff), so let’s go:

Barack Obama was part of the problem while in Congress. Senator Obama pushed the fiscally irresponsible measures that Democrats, who held the majority, advanced while holding the government’s purse strings. And now, as President, he’s not just one of the pack anymore as a mere contributor to the problem – he now leads the problem. We are sick and tired of President Obama pointing his finger and screeching through his blame game about what he “inherited.” Up until 18 months ago he was fully engaged in that Congressional herd mentality of the Left as he just went with the flow, adding to the debt and deficit, instead of bucking his party’s leadership to stop the recklessness. (Did you ever hear him as an independent voice standing up and speaking out against his Democrat party’s overspending and over reach? Come to think of it, did you ever hear of his congressional record at all? For the life of me I can’t think of any time he used his bully pulpit as a sitting U.S. Senator to lead free market, equality-respecting pro-private sector efforts, nor to change up actions he now conveniently condemns. He could have refudiated them all.)

His lecture today must have been tough for our good union brothers and sisters to sit through, though it may have resonated with some union bosses who desire their members to adopt a herd mentality, too, so as to not dare speak up against what Washington is doing to us.

Surely the good, hard working Americans who happen to be union members know, too, that Obama’s blame game is getting old. It’s obviously ineffective, it’s the antithesis of good leadership, and it reeks of hypocrisy. A complicit media won’t call President Obama out on this, so let’s do it ourselves, friends. It helps put his criticisms and fiscal problems in context.

In contrast to President Obama’s lack of leadership in getting our country on a responsible fiscal path, there are some who have a positive agenda, including Rep. Paul Ryan who has shared ideas that deserve a fair hearing. He knows why we need to rein in the government’s reckless spending and how it can be done. Please read this excerpt of an article by Rep. Ryan and be thankful there are some who remember why they were hired to serve us in Congress – it sure wasn’t to merely vote “present” as the powers-that-be jam the car in reverse while hoping we won’t remember who dug the ditch we’re headed toward.


“Reducing deficits should begin with a budget plan to cut spending, yet incredibly Congress abandoned its legal obligation to write a budget this year, which means the leadership has abandoned even the pretense of limiting government’s insatiable spending appetite. I hope the Debt Commission, of which I am a member, will identify potential major spending reductions when we publish our report in December. But waiting for somebody else to suggest cuts was no excuse for Congress to dismiss its mandate to write America’s budget.

There’s no shortage of ideas for cuts we could make immediately. Last year I identified $4.8 trillion we could cut. Right now we could easily reduce spending by $1.3 trillion by: rescinding $266 billion in unused stimulus funds and another $16 billion in leftover TARP money; saving $925 billion by cutting and capping discretionary spending at 2008 levels; imposing a hiring and pay freeze on government employees, saving $65 billion; and reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the proximate originators of the home mortgage meltdown, to save $30 billion. I would also give the President line-item veto authority to realize further savings.

The American people and both parties see the need to get federal spending under control. Any time congressional leaders want, we can start by cutting unnecessary expenditures. Let’s not punish business and workers by raising their taxes at a time when the economy is struggling to return to a growth path—that would only make a desperate situation worse.”


Rep. Ryan is right about not raising taxes.

Lest we forget, the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Democrats have a special New Years gift in store for American taxpayers. On January 1, 2011, they are going to hit us with the largest tax increase in U.S. history. By allowing the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts to expire on New Years Eve, the Democrats are going to impose a $3.8 trillion tax increase on Americans over the next decade.

Instead of admitting that this massive tax hike is just an attempt to get hardworking taxpayers to continue to fund their reckless spending, the Democrats are selling it is as a tax on “the rich” to increase revenues to pay down the debt. However, history shows that raising the top tax rate doesn’t lead to increased revenues. It’s what Arthur Laffer describes as a tax the rich Catch-22: the highest earners, who are expected to bear most of the tax burden, generally also have the best tax advisers to help them get around it.

Regardless of what the Democrats want you to believe, this is a tax increase on every American who pays taxes. Families will suffer because the Democrats’ tax hike will reinstate the marriage penalty, cut the child tax credit in half, abolish various personal exemptions, and impose limits on itemized deductions like home mortgage interest and charitable contributions. Investors and savers would suffer through increases in the top rates in long-term capital gains and qualified dividends. And the Alternative Minimum Tax would end up hitting 15 million taxpayers – up from 4 million in 2009.

We’ll all be feeling the pinch, but the ones who will be hit hardest by this massive tax hike will be America’s small business owners – the businesses that create up to 70% of all jobs in this country. According to a recent report by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, small business owners will pay over half the taxes raised when the Democrats increase the top two tax brackets. In an already anemic jobless recovery, the last thing government should do is to impose even higher tax burdens on job creators. Instead of hurting “the rich,” such measures would end up hurting the unemployed.

To burden American families and small businesses with the largest tax hike in history while the economy is teetering on the brink of a potential double-dip recession is madness. It’s another reason why we must elect commonsense fiscal conservatives in the upcoming midterm elections this November. We simply cannot afford the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Democrats. We need people in Congress who know that the best way to get our economy moving again is to cut taxes, not raise them by unprecedented amounts.

You might have noticed that the Democrats have been throwing around the phrase “common sense” more often these days, but actions speak louder than words. We need real leadership in Washington across the board. We need common sense solutions, not finger-pointing, buck-passing, and lecturing.

- Sarah Palin

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We need common sense solutions, not finger-pointing, buck-passing, and lecturing.


at last something sensible out of the mouth of da "babe". now if she would only take her own advice ... since all she EVER does is finger-pointing, buck-passing and lecturing...

and trying to make out that rolling back the tax breaks for the top 2% is going to be the "biggest tax hike" ever on ALL americans is pushing it some.

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posted August 06, 2010 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is for you katatonic...oh, and also the guy who believes PolitiFact is the very last word in fact checking.

Sarah Palin fact checks the fact checkers. Delicious really.

Now katatonic, there is no legislation pending or even written which would exempt those making less than $250K from the effects of letting the Bush tax cuts expire.

Got that katatonic? There's a lot of talk but absolutely no action on the part of demoscats to extend the Bush tax cuts for anyone. That will amount to more than a 3 Trillion dollar tax increase...the biggest tax increase in the history of the world.

So, Sarah Palin is right, O'Bomber, O'Biden, Pee-Lousy and Dirty Harry Reid are wrong...about most everything. PolitiFact is proved once again to have their heads up their as$es which is the usual position for the leftists working for the St Petersburg Times...my local news paper of malfeasance.

The facts are in. Duke it out with Sarah Palin and get both eyes blackened.

I wonder how it makes those feel who are on the record as declaring Sarah Palin an "empty intellect"...when Palin routinely kicks the as$es of their most cherished icons...and now, their most cherished "fact checkers"? You would think these intellectual pygmies would learn to duck and cover.

Fact-checking the Fact-checkers on the $3.8 Trillion Obama Tax Hike
Yesterday at 8:02am
Sarah Palin

Yesterday, PolitiFact.com fact-checked my statement about the coming $3.8 trillion Obama tax hike – the largest tax increase in history. They did such a bad job of it, however, that I feel compelled to fact-check the fact-checkers.

First of all, they claim that there are Democrat proposals which would “keep the tax cuts for individuals who make less than $200,000 and couples who make less than $250,000.”

Unfortunately for PolitiFact, no such proposal exists. They admit as much, by the way, when they state that “There are no formal congressional proposals yet to keep the Bush tax cuts in place, so we don’t have precise estimates from official sources like the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.” That doesn’t stop them, though, from claiming I “confuse the issue” by “using numbers that assume all the tax cuts are going away. That is not the Democratic plan nor is it President Obama’s plan.”

Plan? What plan? There is no plan. All we have is smoke and mirrors based on an old Obama campaign pledge that if elected, he would exempt families making less than $250,000 a year from “any form of tax increases.” But this pledge was already watered down before he was even elected. First vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden lowered it to $150,000. Then campaign surrogate Gov. Bill Richardson lowered it even further to $120,000.

A few months after the inauguration, even that last promise disappeared in a puff of smoke. When asked to reaffirm the White House’s commitment to the campaign promise of no tax increases for families earning less than $250,000, Obama’s spin doctor David Axelrod declared the President had “no interest in drawing lines in the sand.”

The truth is that as of today, Democrats haven’t taken any action to extend any part of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for any income group – and in this case doing nothing equals hitting American taxpayers with a massive $3.8 trillion tax increase.

What we do know for certain is that the White House is more than willing to raise taxes on families with incomes of less than $250,000. Democrat Senator Max Baucus admitted as much during the debate about Obamacare when he stated that “One other point that I think it’s very important to make is that it is true that in certain cases, the taxes will go up for some Americans who might be making less than $200,000.”

PolitiFact doesn’t dispute the $3.8 trillion estimate of the cost of repeal of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. It admits that “Palin’s estimate of $3.8 trillion over 10 years is within a reasonable range, if you’re talking about all taxpayers.” And yet somehow it continues to argue that I’m wrong, based on a proposal it admits doesn’t exist which in turn is based on a phantom campaign pledge which Democrats have already broken anyway. I call that a “Pants on Fire” statement.

To prevent PolitiFact from making similar mistakes in future, it would be helpful if the White House and the Democratic Congressional leadership finally mustered the courage to table their plans to let the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire. Mr. President, publish your proposals, and we’ll duke it out. You can argue in favor of a multi-trillion dollar tax hike in an age of economic uncertainty and mass unemployment, and we’ll argue for fiscal sanity combined with serious spending cuts. I for one look forward to such a debate.

In the meantime I suggest the St. Petersburg Times hires a few extra staff to fact-check its fact-checkers. It might help it prevent being caught with its “pants on fire” again in the future.

- Sarah Palin

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in the meantime the obama government has created tax cuts of its own. maybe not for those earning 250K and more, but for everyone else. another empty projection from the lady of wasilla. which is still the meth capital of alaska. what a coincidence. i wonder if that is where she gets her jumpy energy from?

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i just came in here to laugh. thanks guys.

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posted August 06, 2010 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this this morning. Politifact factchecked her claims back.

Do Democrats have a plan to extend Bush tax cuts?
By Angie Drobnic Holan
Published on Friday, August 6th, 2010 at 11:26 a.m.

On Wedneday, we published a fact-check of comments Sarah Palin made on Fox News Sunday. She was asked about Democratic plans to raise taxes on the wealthy.

She said their plan would result in the "largest tax increase in history." We examined the Democratic plan and found tax increases for the wealthy weren't nearly the largest tax increase in history. Because she distorted her opponents' plans so badly, we rated that statement Pants on Fire.

She didn't like our rating, and wrote an extensive response via Facebook. She said we went off track because the Democrats don't really have a tax plan.

"Unfortunately for PolitiFact, no such proposal exists. ... Plan? What plan? There is no plan. All we have is smoke and mirrors based on an old Obama campaign pledge that if elected, he would exempt families making less than $250,000 a year from 'any form of tax increases.' ...

"To prevent PolitiFact from making similar mistakes in future, it would be helpful if the White House and the Democratic Congressional leadership finally mustered the courage to table their plans to let the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire. Mr. President, publish your proposals, and we'll duke it out. You can argue in favor of a multi-trillion dollar tax hike in an age of economic uncertainty and mass unemployment, and we'll argue for fiscal sanity combined with serious spending cuts."

Actually, President Obama has proposed formal plans to leave tax rates in place for the middle class while raising taxes on the wealthy -- for example, on pages 39 and 164 of his 2011 budget. We also re-capped Obama's history on tax increases. We rated Palin's latest statement False.

You can see every fact-check we've reported about Sarah Palin on Palin's PolitiFact page.

LINK

Nice try Sarah.

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posted August 06, 2010 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm with cpn. still a laugh a line with "the funniest palin in the world"(quote john cleese)...

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posted August 06, 2010 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who here even believes Palin writes what ends up on Palin's Facebook?

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raises hand, oh...oh...oh....i know.... i know.. i know.... i know.

Jwhops!

am i right... am i right?


i find it REAL hard to believe she wrote that...(sorry buddy)
well, kinda sorry...
i know you want her to be both pretty and smart so badly...don't feel too bad.

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posted August 06, 2010 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, PolitFact has their heads up their collective as$es.

There is no bill and no outline of a bill to extend the Bush tax cuts for anyone. Not in the House of Representatives. Not in the Senate. Not in any House committee or sub-committee. Not in any Senate committee or sub-committee. Nor has O'Bomber submitted any such bill to the Congress of the United States nor made the details of any such bill public or held any discussions with Congress.

Smoke and mirrors, prattle, blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit.

As usual, PolitiFact has their facts wrong and Sarah Palin called them on it.

Palin is right. The St Petersburg Times needs to hire some fact checkers to check Politifact before they make fools of themselves....again.

Now, if PolitFact can cite the name and number of any such bill in the House or Senate; or, if PolitiFact can cite the names of House members and/or Senate members with whom he's outlined "his plan" and the
date(s) he spoke with them about extending the Bush tax cuts...well and fine. But it's not happened.

Otherwise, PolitiFacts is shown once again attempting to run interference for the Marxist Socialist stinking up the White House.

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posted August 06, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the budget- 2011 pg 39 in part.

quote:
Allow the Bush Tax Cuts for Households
Earning More Than $250,000 to Expire. In
the last Administration, those at the very top enjoyed
large tax breaks and income gains while
almost everyone else struggled and real income
for the middle class declined. Our Nation cannot
afford to continue these tax cuts, which is why
the President supports allowing those tax cuts
that affect families earning more than $250,000 a
year to expire and committing these resources to
reducing the deficit instead. This step will have
no effect on the 98 percent of all households who
make less than $250,000.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2011/assets/budget.pdf


pg 164 is part of the summary tables.

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posted August 06, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that meth line

and does sister Sarah fly face up or down>?

um does she fly solo? What I am saying here is that if Casper Weinberger were not previously engaged with extensive rewrites for this


he would be available to Palin. No doubt it is a team from her consultants that are on retainer.

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posted August 06, 2010 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Actually, PolitFact has their heads up their collective as$es.

So much for that.

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posted August 06, 2010 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah well getting past the he said she said BS, she'd make a kick ass president...

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wink what on earth makes you think so? the fact that she spreads lies about the current administration, or the fact that she has quit on pretty much everything she's been part of? or those nice teeth and the legs jwhop admires?

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posted August 07, 2010 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pure and simple, PolitiFact is lying when they say there is a plan to extend the Bush tax cuts.

The 2011 budget referred to is a presidential "wish list" but it lacks all fleshing out of detail. It's a statement of presidential desires.

However, those who know anything about the US government and how government was designed to work...know the president cannot pass anything into law. O'Bomber just thinks he's a RULER who can declare his wishes and make them law.

There is no legislative bill...in the House or in the Senate to extend the Bush tax cuts...AND THAT'S WHERE ALL LEGISLATION IS PASSED... in the House and Senate.

If there were an actual plan to extend the Bush tax cuts, there would be a H # for House Bill assigned to some specific language or an S # assigned or both.

PolitiFact continues to attack their own credibility. I like it a lot when leftists destroy their own credibility.

Now, here's the dirty little secret.

THERE IS NO 2011 BUDGET. Congress bailed on their responsibility to pass a 2011 budget by the April 15th, 2010 deadline to do so.

At this point...there is no 2011 PLAN for extending the Bush tax cuts and in fact, no plan as to how this bunch of bungling boob Socialist nitwits plan to meet the requirements of funding the government in year 2011.

So, Sarah Palin is right. If these bungling boob Socialist nitwits don't get off their sorry as$es and pass legislation to extend the Bush tax cuts before December 31st...then at midnight they will have handed American citizens the biggest tax increase in the history of the country.

For years, these Socialist morons have lyingly whined, wheezed, screeched and shrieked about the Bush tax cuts for the rich.

At midnight on December 31st, America is going to find out that most of the coming 3.8 Trillion dollar tax increase is going to hit the American middle class.

Sarah Palin is using PolitiFact's own phrase against them.

Pants on Fire, Still
Yesterday at 10:07pm
Sarah Palin

A $3.8 trillion tax increase is coming down the pike, folks. America’s tax cuts which can incentivize small businesses to expand and hire more people (thus fulfilling the mission to grow more private sector jobs), or even just to keep our doors open, will expire in four months. That expiration equates to an increase on your tax bill, starting at midnight, December 31.

I’ll keep calling out President Obama and the Democrats until they tell the American people what the plan is to save the incentives – to not allow the mom and pops’ tax cuts to expire. Granted, liberals (including stubborn “fact-checkers” who claim I’m lying about the soon-to-be tax cut expiration) are trying to clobber me for holding them accountable and prodding them toward revealing their intentions (because they’ve had 18 months to publicly propose a plan to stave off the $3.8 trillion tax increase that will soon slam us, but have revealed no plan). If they have a bill to extend the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, let’s see it. Time for them to put up or shut up.

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Take the word of the “fact-checkers” at PolitiFact, who, before moving the goal posts in their second dissembling “fact-check” on the Democrats’ tax hikes, wrote in their original “fact-check”:


There are no formal congressional proposals yet to keep the Bush tax cuts in place
, so we don’t have precise estimates from official sources like the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Still, there’s a good bit of consensus on what the tax increases would look like, both if lower rates expired only for high earners and also for all incomes.

As Ed Morrissey noted:

And there’s a big problem with this argument, which is that “consensus” means nothing without passing a bill, and especially not without proposing one first. Thanks to Democrats in 2001 and 2003, those bills cutting the tax rates have hard-and-fast sunset provisions that create an expiration date absent of any other action. We are now less than four months away from that expiration date after seven years of seeing it coming, after more than 3 years of Democratic control of Congress, and after eighteen months of the Obama administration. Democrats don’t even have a proposal on the table yet, and the legislative calendar is rapidly shrinking to take action before the expiration date hits. Without action, we will see a $3.8 trillion tax hike across the entire spectrum of earners.

So much for “consensus” without action. PolitiFact is curiously stating that in his 2011 budget, the President mentioned some “plan” to do something about not raising taxes on all Americans. Um, don’t know about you, but I don’t find this general, vague promise of some “plan” all that reassuring. The Left also “plans” to do something about our out of control deficits and high unemployment, and the President “planned” for his nearly trillion dollar stimulus to keep unemployment under 8%. We’ve seen how successful that “plan” worked out. The President’s budget “plan” hasn’t worked out so well either. As the economist Bruce Bartlett explained at the time, the President’s budget – including the tax promise – was never much more than a vague statement of intent. Practically speaking, it was dead on arrival. Even Bartlett couldn’t have known how dead, though, because in the end Congress didn’t even succeed in passing a budget, let alone in taking a decision on the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.

Bottom line: until we see a formal proposal – an actual bill before Congress – then get ready for that $3.8 trillion hit.

(By the way, the Left sure gets wee-wee’d up when they’re called on something like this, eh? And here I am, thousands of miles away from DC out on a commercial fishing boat, working my butt off for my own business, merely asking the Democrat politicos and their liberal friends in the media: “What’s the plan, man?”, and they seem to feel threatened by my question. So, I’ll go back to setting my hooks and watching the halibut take the bait, and when I come back into the boat’s cabin in a few hours, I’ll log back on here to read their reply. I’ll have succeeded if they’re forced to finally reveal to Americans how they plan to increase taxes, and what they intend to do with our money. In the meantime, I’m catching fish.)

- Sarah Palin, in Homer, Alaska


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posted August 07, 2010 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"There is no legislative bill"

No, because they will expire. Not all but most.

Why are we focusing on whether there is a bill?

Oh, that's right because Sarah is.
And she sure is "wee wee'd" up about it.

And that is her phrase I am certain.

Just like Death Panels

The group `getting called on` is the group that thinks we can pay off the Bush Debt without the top 2% having to pay their fair share.

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posted August 07, 2010 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the absence of legislative action in both houses of Congress...then Node, ALL THE BUSH TAX CUTS, ACROSS THE BOARD WILL EXPIRE AT MIDNIGHT ON DECEMBER 31ST 2010 FOR EVERYONE.

We call legislative action...Bills.

Btw, "Wee Wee'd Up" is O'Bomber's phrase.
"Pants on Fire" is a Politifact phrase.

Sarah Palin is just talking to O'Bomber and PolitiFact in the language they understand...their own.

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posted August 07, 2010 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"Refudiate," "misunderestimate," "wee-wee'd up." English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!

my bad memory, that was Obama

and you are no doubt very familiar with the pants on fire phrase.....

There is nothing accurate about her statement other than the one written on her hand ( and it was on her hand watch the vid)
that
there is over 3 trillion dollars involved.

So what is the plan??????

with everyone so convinced that the Republicans will recapture the House, (and historically speaking they will.) and perhaps the Senate, I'm just wondering: What's the Republican plan to pay down/ pay off the debt anyway? They don't want the tax cuts to expire. I'm pretty sure they don't want to end either war. They've shown they can outspend democrats at a pace that made everyone dizzy from 2000-2008.

So, do they even have a plan?

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there were tax cuts this year for the less affluent and there will continue to be. the trillion or so deficit will not look so much like a deficit when the extra wealthy start paying their taxes again. or i should say if, since some are so greedy they will take their money and run, or find the nearest loopholes anyway. others actually like being american and will pay the price, admittedly LESS than during the "golden years" when eisenhower, kennedy et al were in the white house...

but gawd almighty tis true that some people think that asking the rich to do their bit is SOCIALISM. in other words, we want it BOTH ways, no deficit AND no taxes. if pigs could fly...

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posted August 07, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're trying to obfuscate.

The issue here is that the Bush tax cuts are scheduled to expire at midnight on December 31, 2010 and there's no plan, no bills in the House or Senate to extend any part of the Bush tax cuts.

This will result in a $3.8 Trillion tax increase which will hit all income tax payers including the middle class...and even many so called low income families.

The expiration of the Bush tax cuts will force many who have no current income tax liability into a tax bracket where income taxes will be owed. Bush not only lowered taxes across the board but also set the lowest tax bracket at a higher income level and as a result, millions of Americans were relieved of any income tax liability on their incomes.

All that's going away when the Bush tax cuts expire.

I notice neither PolitiFact or anyone here has provided the House or Senate Bill numbers which would extend the Bush tax cuts...for anyone.

Sarah Palin is absolutely right. There is no plan.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 07, 2010 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So there's no legislation from the Democrats? How about the Republicans?

Geithner confirms Obama's priorities: http://www.tax-news.com/news/Geithner_Fuels_Debate_On_Expiring_US_Tax_Cuts____44703.ht ml

Frank accused Republicans of being "hypocritical" when it comes to the defict.

They are concerned about the deficit when opposing aid to unemployed workers, but do not mind exploding the deficit to give the wealthy tax cuts, he said.
http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2010/08/06/news/7780184.txt[/URL]

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/05/possible-compro mise-top-bush-tax-cuts-and-dems-wont-touch-immigration

It's pretty clear that if Palin (or Palin's writer) were to actually be looking at what Democrats are saying about taxes, she'd find that most Democrats hold the same belief as the President.

Furthermore, if ALL the Bush tax cuts expire, it will PRIMARILY be the fault of Republicans. I don't see her pointing any fingers at Republicans for not stepping up to the plate to reach some sort of deal.

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posted August 07, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Republicans are not in control of the House or Senate. Republicans can't even bring proposed legislation to floor of either House for a vote...without the approval of the Speaker or Senate Majority leader.

Little Tax Cheat Timmy Geithner is not only personally corrupt but what he knows about economics could be written on the head of a pin.

With almost $300 Billion sitting in the the TARP fund and about $400 Billion sitting in the so called Stimulus fund...Republicans wanted some of those funds tapped to extend unemployment benefits. Barney Fife Frank is a blithering idiot.

You're just jealous of Palin acoustic. She's way, way, way more intelligent than you.

Bet she does write her own stuff. But acoustic, who do you think writes the airhead O'Bomber's stuff?

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but golly the unemployment benefit extension finally went through despite the republican stalling tactics...so a lot of people will continue to be able to contribute to the economy.

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