posted February 17, 2012 11:10 PM            

Palin was right and that's a fact historians noted and commented upon.

And no, I wasn't including you in the fiasco some here engaged in by accusing Palin of not know what baby food consisted of...which happens to be primarily cows milk...at least until they can eat more solid food.

posted February 24, 2012 07:48 PM            

Now, if you want to read the ingredient list on a can/bottle of regular baby formula, you'll find the 1st ingredient listed is...milk. It's not goat's milk and it's not yak milk or llama milk, it's cow's milk.

"Organic Similac is made with organic milk, from cows that have not been given growth hormones or antibiotics, and organic sucrose, manufactured without chemical processing. In order for a product to be certified organic, at least 95 percent of the ingredients by weight must be organic. The three main organic ingredients in this variety of Similac are nonfat milk, sucrose and sunflower, soy and coconut oils."

posted February 25, 2012 12:03 PM              

in the case of similac, two different forms of SUGAR may add up to more total volume than the milk powder, which, while organic, is highly processed (nonfat powder).

the price of everything is going up. the price of everything ORGANIC is going up even more! for that reason alone, palin's statement was not COMPLETELY off the mark. but if cow's milk was suitable for infants WE WOULD NOT HAVE FORMULA AT ALL, and THAT is why her statement was pathetic.

besides which NO formula contains the mother's antibodies which give so much protection to newborn children when they are at their most vulnerable.

of course many children have been raised, apparently healthy, on formula. whether that is a factor in the vast increase of autoimmune diseases since formula was first popularized, would be conjecture. there are so many possible factors. but the co-incidence is very remarkable.

posted February 25, 2012 11:19 PM              

and while milk may be NEXT on the list, TWO kinds of sugar (sucrose and maltodextrin) come right up behind. organic or not, sugar (also more expensive than in the past) is not a great substitute for breast milk either.

but even if it were ALL cow's milk the point is that sarah palin, awash in spite as usual, attributes to michelle obama some sort of ulterior political motive in promoting breast milk as the BEST milk for babies...even SIMILAC agree with this. when in fact it is ms palin who is shoving political "points" at people for no reason but ... politics!

and no matter how cheap formula or milk might be, breastfeeding has always trumped them in terms of cost as well as quality. in fact for some mothers it has ALWAYS been one of the deciding factors in choosing breastfeeding.

some mothers cannot breastfeed for whatever reason. nothing wrong with formula if you have a real reason to use it.

posted February 26, 2012 12:24 AM            

But, let's be real here and stop making phony agruments. Cow's milk is the main ingredient in baby formula.

Cow's milk is the main ingredient in powdered milk too. The only reason water is added is to replace what was removed in the first place to make it powdered milk which is easier to store and has a longer shelf life.

This is not an argument you can win katatonic. The facts are against your argument.

Your main problem is that if Sarah Palin says "white", you say "black" or if she says "day", you say "night". Your ideology and hatred of Palin are causing you to make foolish arguments.

posted February 26, 2012 01:02 PM              

sarah palin is not only a know-nothing but a do-nothing whining about the man who got the job that "shoulda been" hers, except 3 years later john mccain is still kicking.

come to think of it, the way mccain has been behaving lately she probably would have had him locked up in an old folks' home on dementia drugs ... until the heat got too hot and she had to get him back out so she could QUIT!\

posted February 26, 2012 01:50 PM            

The fact some baby food producers dehydrate milk to store the milk solids in a dry state then reformulate the powdered milk with water cuts no ice either.

That Michelle O'Bomber has just the kind of long bony, busybody nose she thrusts into the private lives of Americans is just a fact, and it's a fact which deserves comment. It's also a fact that the idiot O'Bomber has caused the increase in prices in just about everything in our economy...including milk.

Sarah Palin was not wrong about infant formula being made from cow's milk...nor about the rise in milk prices...and just about everything else.

I don't give a rat's ass whether you like Sarah Palin or not. To me, it's immaterial. Lying about Palin or anyone else for political reasons and ideology is another matter.

posted February 27, 2012 07:49 AM            

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come to think of it, the way mccain has been behaving lately she probably would have had him locked up in an old folks' home on dementia drugs ... until the heat got too hot and she had to get him back out so she could QUIT!

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posted February 27, 2012 12:16 PM              

From a 2007 news release (via nexis):

Gov. Sarah Palin, R-Alaska, has issued the following proclamation:

WHEREAS, breastfeeding is recognized as an unequalled means of providing food for infants.

WHEREAS, throughout their lives, breastfeeding can offer children protection against serious health conditions, including obesity, diabetes, and high blood pressure. Breastfeeding also saves lives by reducing the incidence of life-threatening cancers in women and preventing premature death in infants.

WHEREAS, breastfeeding forms the most basic bond between mother and baby and is a foundation for lifelong health and wellness.

WHEREAS, government and community organizations have a vested interest in protecting and promoting breastfeeding as a means of preventing infant malnutrition, morbidity, and mortality.

WHEREAS, during October, organizations throughout our state will promote the importance of breastfeeding. This year, in conjunction with World Breastfeeding Week - October 1 through October 7 - the State of Alaska will support networks that encourage and promote breastfeeding in all communities.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the State of Alaska, do hereby proclaim October 2007 as:

Breastfeeding Awareness Month

in Alaska, and encourage all residents to recognize and support the important contributions breastfeeding makes in improving the quality of life for all Alaskans.

does the term disingenuous ring any bells yet?

it also potentially saves billions in medical costs through prevention.

but of COURSE michelle obama must have ulterior motives for promoting breast feeding! because of the shape of her nose? or what?

posted February 27, 2012 01:02 PM            

Palin was commander in chief of all Alaskan National Guard units.

Palin was the chief executive for the state of Alaska.

Palin negotiated a new oil deal with oil producers which returned an annual check to every Alaska citizen.

Palin negotiated a contract with a Canadian company to build a pipeline to carry energy to the US...one of the most expensive projects undertaken.

Palin routinely negotiated with representatives of businesses from foreign nations...to do business in Alaska.

Now, let's look at the experience of THE ONE, the Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber.

O'Bomber once lived...as a child in the country of Indonesia.

O'Bomber once flew to Pakistan..on a passport of which no one knows the country of issue because at the time, the US State Dept was not issuing passports for the destination of Pakistan.

That's the sum total of foreign policy experience of candidate O'Bomber.

Along the way, O'Bomber organized street thugs to protest America.

Along the way, O'Bomber worked with the domestic communist terrorist bombers Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorne.

Along the way, O'Bomber sat in a church..for twenty years and listened to an American hating, anti-Semitic screecher, Wright spew hatred for America.

Along the way, O'Bomber was tutored by a communist agent named Frank Marshal Davis...a member of the Communist Party USA, introduced to O'Bomber by his leftist grandfather and grandmother in Hawaii.

Along the way, O'Bomber was chosen by his communist bud, Bill Ayers, to preside over the project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. A challenge designed not to improve education in Chicago schools but to rather train a new generation of street thugs in the art of intimidation of citizens and public officials. The project was such a total failure, blew about $150,000,000 with no positive results that even the leftists at Annenberg had to shut it down.

Along the way, O'Bomber sued Bank of America because the bank didn't want to lower their mortgage lending standards in accordance with the so called "Community Reinvestment Act"; the bank knowing their mortgage default rates would skyrocket...which they did. Eventually, the "Community Reinvestment Act" blew up in America's face and caused the almost total meltdown of America's financial system when mortgage defaults all across America skyrocketed.

Now, there's a hell of a lot more I could say about O'Bomber and there's many, many more questions that O'Bomber should be forced to answer..or take the 5th.

But, in any comparison with Sarah Palin, O'Bomber comes off looking like the inexperienced, bungling boob, intellectual pygmy he really is.

I can understand McCain's handlers and advisors being embarrassed at Sarah Palin drawing crowds 2-3 times the size of McCain's. Palin was ripping the hide off O'Bomber and if those idiots running the McCain campaign had left Palin alone, McCain would be president today and O'Bomber would be back in Chicago along with the thugs he brought to Washington with him.

Take away O'Bomber's title, take away his presidential seal, Air Force One and the presidential limo and O'Bomber is a nobody that almost no one would listen to a word he said. The same nobody he was before he lied his way into the White House.

Sarah Palin gave up her title, holds no titles and isn't seeking any titles. But, where ever Sarah Palin goes, the press follows her around like lapdogs and crowds of people drive hundreds of miles to see her and hear what she has to say. She gets more mileage, reportage and more readers in a 2 line tweet than O'Bomber gets from an orchestrated speech at which unions have bussed in their members to inflate his audiences.

Sarah Palin remains what she always was; an elemental force of nature. By comparison, O'Bomber doesn't rise to the level of a minor dust devil.

posted February 27, 2012 02:29 PM              

nor with the fact michelle obama's nose is no longer or bonier than sarah palin's - but you refuse to give up your nyanyanyanyanya schoolyard bigotry. perhaps you think all black people should have flat noses? or you just saw the wizard of oz and are trying to say mrs obama is a witch for encouraging breastfeeding? even second grade is too mature for that.

in place of "force of nature" let's insert the more appropriate description...TOAST.

not so long ago obama was not president. how did he get to BE president? by being a nobody no one listened to? something doesn't add up here...last i heard he had a massive popular and electoral victory over toast lady.

meanwhile he has been president for 3 years now, a good deal longer than palin could stand being governor, though she is still addressed by that title for the few months she did withstand...and her chief foreign policy experience is standing on the sidelines and using that 20/20 perpspective, hindsight, to crow about how much better the people WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING could do it if only they would listen to alasska sal...

but sadly, none of them does listen to her. sure, with fox pushing her in people's faces and her knack for stigmatizing and poking at actual political figures, she has an audience.

posted February 27, 2012 11:45 PM            

O'Bomber and/or his wife Michelle do not match up with Sarah Palin in an measurable way. Least of all in intellectual ability.

"America is a downright mean country"...Michelle O'Bomber

"This is the first time I've ever been proud of my country in my adult life"....Michelle O'Bomber.

A typical whining, thumbsucking, long, bony, busybody nosed leftist...just like her husband.

posted February 28, 2012 10:38 AM            

"Riffing on Obama's recent recommendation that moms breastfeed their babies, the self-styled Mama Grizzly cracked, "It's no wonder Michelle Obama is telling everybody you need to breast feed your babies ... the price of milk is so high!"....attributed to Sarah Palin

Now, no one here and no one anywhere else could possibly find an indication in this alleged quote that Sarah Palin is recommending babies NOT BE BREASTFED! No where does Palin say that, suggest that or insinuate that.

The price of cow's milk IS high. Sarah Palin is right about that.

Cow's milk is the main ingredient in baby formula. Nonfat milk IS cow's milk with the fat removed. Powdered milk is cow's milk with the water removed. Condensed milk is cow's milk with part of the water removed but unless one is talking about formula made from Soy milk...something I wouldn't feed anyone..including a baby...You're talking about cow's milk when you're talking about baby formula.

When the main ingredient..or constituent ingredients in anything goes up in price, the price of that manufactured product goes up too.

When the price of crude oil goes up, the price of gasoline goes up too. So does diesel fuel, so does motor oil, so do most plastics and so do most chemical fertilizers.

No one burns crude oil in their gas or diesel powered cars. They burn the products made from crude oil.

Baby formula is made from cow's milk..in one form or another...but, it's cow's milk!

Now, I'm sorry Sarah Palin didn't take the time to explain it all to the leftists. Palin probably figured it was self evident to just about everyone that baby formula is made from cow's milk and that only a relative few....leftists, would be intellectually incapable of connecting the dots...and howl, screech, whine and shriek

One last thing. If Michelle O'Bomber is going out to campaign for O'Bomber, stick her nose in the private lives of Americans...instead of staying home, tending the White House garden and taking care of her children..then, Michelle O'Bomber is a legitimate target for political comments; by Sarah Palin and everyone else.

posted February 28, 2012 12:14 PM              

it's okay, jwhop. i don't think michelle obama gives a hoot what sarah palin thinks of her. in fact she if she thinks about it at all she probably sees palin's opinion of her as confirmation that she is making a difference.

i am surprised that you can excuse the blatant two-facedness of criticising someone for something you yourself did(as palin did with this little sally), but i guess i shouldn't be by now!

posted February 28, 2012 08:19 PM            

Well katatonic, now you can show me where Palin ripped Michelle O'Bomber for pushing breastfeeding. That's the only possible way you could establish any hypocrisy on the part of Sarah Palin...on this issue at least.

posted February 28, 2012 11:24 PM            

Nor did you point to any statement by Sarah Palin showing she ripped Michelle O'Bomber for pushing breastfeeding.

The comment Palin made was about the price of milk...used to make baby formula, which has been dealt with here and which you lost.

In fact, the point Sarah Palin made about the price of milk was true and was intended to show that under O'Bomber the price of milk was high...along with most everything else.

posted February 29, 2012 12:31 AM            

First and foremost, I'm not a tap-dancer!

There are no doubt some who think Sarah Palin is hot as in the guise of a sexy librarian. That's not me.

If I had to use just one word to describe Sarah Palin, the word would be a word not much in use these days..."wholesome".

A phrase which comes to mind is a phrase also not much in use these days..."the girl next door". For those not familiar with the phrase...as it was used in the past, it's thus:

The cultural and sexual stereotype of the girl next door or the All-American girl is invoked in American contexts to indicate wholesome, unassuming femininity, as opposed to the culture's other female stereotypes such as the tomboy, the valley girl, the femme fatale, girly girl....

Make no mistake, Palin is no angel. She has sharp elbows and let's not forget what O'Bomber forgot...or never knew. Sarah Palin's nickname was Sarah Barracuda when she was in competition.

Now shura, I hope you don't disappear again before you answer some questions which puzzle me. Other's should feel free to chime in too.

This is the way I see it. Sarah Palin is one of or IS the single most dangerous person in America to the political establishment of both parties. She makes no bones about her disgust with the political class in Washington...which also includes most of the press. She also has the credentials, as she took them on in Alaska and kicked their ***** . Some of those politicians in Alaska were prosecuted and went to jail...including Republicans...in fact, most were Republicans Palin proved to be an equal opportunity ass kicker.

Sarah Palin is as "anti-establishment" a politician as you're likely to find. Ron Paul comes close but Palin's views are even broader in many ways.

So, with so many here expressing disgust with Washington, with the political class, with intrusive government with their noses in every aspect of American's lives, with their mis-management of government and cramming their edicts down everyone's throats...even to meddling in wholesome lunches prepared by mothers for their children and with their crony capitalism or crony socialism....Sarah Palin would seem..to me...to be someone you would really like and gravitate towards.

The only reason I can think of as to why you wouldn't is that you must think Sarah Palin is somehow a phony persona...not at all what she appears to be.

If that's the reason, I couldn't disagree with you more. Sarah Palin is a true revolutionary. Just not a revolutionary of the leftist model of overthrowing everything most Americans cherish and value in our society.

Her intent...and I trust this is true...is to overthrow the entrenched political class who have led the US to the very brink of disaster AND reestablish the Constitutional Republic America is supposed to be.

Waiting for answers...and I promise that no matter what you say in answer to my question(s)...on this subject, I will refrain from inflammatory or heated responses..no matter how hard I have to bite my tongue.

Because, I really do want to know!

posted February 29, 2012 01:13 AM            

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the #1 ingredient on the list doesn't mean it is "primarily" cow's milk or anything else. it means there is more of that ingredient than any ONE of the others. and depending on how long the list is, that can be a very SMALL portion of the whole.

in the case of similac, two different forms of SUGAR may add up to more total volume than the milk powder, which, while organic, is highly processed (nonfat powder).

the price of everything is going up. the price of everything ORGANIC is going up even more! for that reason alone, palin's statement was not COMPLETELY off the mark. but if cow's milk was suitable for infants WE WOULD NOT HAVE FORMULA AT ALL, and THAT is why her statement was pathetic.

besides which NO formula contains the mother's antibodies which give so much protection to newborn children when they are at their most vulnerable.

of course many children have been raised, apparently healthy, on formula. whether that is a factor in the vast increase of autoimmune diseases since formula was first popularized, would be conjecture. there are so many possible factors. but the co-incidence is very remarkable.

however i hardly think noticing that prices are going up is an indication of acute brainiac status.

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