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posted August 28, 2010 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarah sarah
another ode to sarah

Jwhop: Some intelligent people are also quite stupid.

I choose to think that you, Jwhop, do not believe half of what you post, just that your oft overstated props and propaganda repeated often enough will enter all the cranial cavities of those who
read it. Like osmosis, like watering a plant.

I roomed with a girl who carried a 4.0 at Hopkins for neuroscience. She wanted to be a Neurosurgeon.
Brilliant woman, also dumb as a stick.

From your own link:
Unemployment average for the year 2003?
6.0

2002?
5.8

the American worker and family are working harder, with longer hours, and still falling further and further behind. the American CEO is 500 times better off since Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Think about that $200,000 equivalent pay you might have gotten if you were treated as equally or fairly as the CEO of the company you work for.

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posted August 30, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Then why were we loosing jobs before 2007? And why did wages remain stagnant?"..Node

"The unemployment rate for year 2007 was 4.6% and for 2008, 5.8%."

Your misstatement has been corrected Node.

O'Bomber has not only tripled the Bush budget deficits...he's almost doubled the 2008 unemployment rate.

Which proves O'Bomber is not the usual Marxist Socialist twit who destroys any economy over which they get control.

O'Bomber has managed all this in less than 2 years. Perhaps that's a record.

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posted August 30, 2010 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I repeat for those who are challenged.

Massive job loss started way back.

And wages have been covered ad nausea um.


Unemployment:
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. After an economic slowdown, the rate rose again to 6.1% in August 2008 and up to 7.2% in December 2008. From December 2007 when the recession started to December 2008, an additional 3.6 million people became unemployed. And, in January 2009, his last month in office, the nation lost 655,000 jobs, raising the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent, the highest level in more than 15 years.


rewriting history in your head again as well I see.

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posted August 30, 2010 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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interesting, astrol twins almost...a pair of hot-air dragons with way too much aquarius for human beings...


yes jwhop this leftist proves your point about the hateful twisted commie mind:

"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself or if I would need to hire somebody to do it" (Glenn Beck 2005).

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posted August 31, 2010 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat: the first thing I thought of when I read the Beck BD was Jeanne Dixon.

For years I have had data loaded on AstroD from a prophecy/prediction that she had about a person born during the monster Aqua Stell in Feb of 1962.

I don't know if she called this person the 'Antichrist' I have never read the book, but others have.

~I'm just sayin'

I know the date and the moon, rising etc are specific. Always been fascinated by this so here is a chart since I have it.

Jeanne Dixon predicted the Kennedy assassination.


Oh, and I changed the location purely on whim as I was loading it. Thinking to use a place in the middle of the log / lat of the earth. I immediately thought of Seychelles Islands don't ask me why, I had no idea where they actually were, just going with my own flow if you get me.

*edit

I think this is a womans chart. i know this is all hypothetical...so I am hypothetically saying that the Eris /Pluto-Lilith / ASC are a signature and that Nep- Ceres plays too.

I no longer have my notes, they were on an old comp....now I remember why I played with this chart so much and left it on file at AstroD. This chart has me hooked...I would love if Geo or Glaucus looked at it.

I would love to multicomp this w/ obama and the `twins` too.

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posted September 01, 2010 12:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this chart touches mine in ways i don't think i would like. a lot of them. i can see why you kept it too!

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posted September 01, 2010 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humility and Honesty About Iraq Can Inspire Trust
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 2:01pm


Sarah Palin

Later today, President Obama will speak to the American people about Iraq. No doubt he will laud the “end of major combat operations” by the date he randomly selected some 18 months ago. His press secretary Robert Gibbs also gave us a glimpse of what else he might say, telling the Today Show this morning that ”What is certainly not up for question is that President Obama, then-candidate Obama, said that adding those 20,000 troops into Iraq would, indeed, improve the security situation, and it did.”

Iraq in 2010 is indeed a very long way from Iraq in 2006, when violence and sectarian conflict threatened complete chaos. But then-candidate Obama did not support the course that brought us here as his press secretary now claims. On January 10, 2007, when President Bush announced the surge, Senator Obama insisted that the surge would actually increase sectarian violence: “I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse.” Barack Obama was clearly in opposition to the surge strategy.

Had we followed the course advocated by then-candidates Obama and Biden, the Iraq war would be remembered now as a crushing defeat for the United States and our allies. Al Qaeda in Iraq and Iranian supported extremists would have claimed victory over America – with grave implications for us throughout the region and the world. Iraq would have descended into full-scale civil war. Iraq’s neighbor would have likely been drawn into the conflict. Parts of Iraq would have been made a safe haven for terrorists to train and plan for attacks far beyond Iraqi borders.

Fortunately for all of us, these events did not occur. They did not occur because America changed strategy in Iraq. President Bush decided to increase our forces in Iraq and pursue a counterinsurgency strategy – a course long advocated by Republicans in Washington. This “surge” policy in 2007 was opposed by many – most notably and adamantly by Senators Obama and Biden. In October 2006, as the violence was spiraling out of control, Senator Obama actually advocated reducing our troop presence: “It is clear at this point that we cannot, through putting in more troops or maintaining the presence that we have, expect that somehow the situation is going to improve, and we have to do something significant to break the pattern that we’ve been in right now.”

In response to President Bush’s State of the Union address on January 23, 2007, Senator Obama said: “I don’t think the president’s strategy is going to work…My suggestion to the president has been that the only way we’re going to change the dynamic in Iraq and start seeing political commendation is actually if we create a system of phased redeployment. And, frankly, the president, I think, has not been willing to consider that option, not because it’s not militarily sound but because he continues to cling to the belief that somehow military solutions are going to lead to victory in Iraq.”

Senator Joe Biden, just before the surge was formally announced, actually declared: “If he surges another 20, 30 [thousand], or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake.”

In May 2007, Senator Obama voted against funding our troops in Iraq. Reporters have insinuated that I haven’t been telling the truth on this fact, but consider the fact: he did not support additional troop funding. Had his position prevailed, our troops would have been forced to leave Iraq precipitously and chaos would have ensued. Goodness, even Senator Biden voted for the funding and had to admit this about Senator Obama and others who opposed it: “My colleagues voted against the funding to make a political point. There’s no political point worth my son’s life. There’s no political point worth anyone’s life.” As the mother of a soldier who spent his year in Iraq recently, I have to agree with Biden on that point.

As it became clear in the summer of 2007 that the surge strategy was working, Senator Obama was still stubbornly in denial about the success our American troops were having, saying: “My assessment is that the surge has not worked and we will not see a different report eight weeks from now.” What willful blindness he showed with that assessment.

And even in November 2007, when everyone could see the success of the surge in reducing violence and increasing political space in Iraq, Senator Obama said: “Finally, in 2006-2007, we started to see that, even after an election, George Bush continued to want to pursue a course that didn’t withdraw troops from Iraq but actually doubled them and initiated a surge and at that stage I said very clearly, not only have we not seen improvements, but we’re actually worsening, potentially, a situation there.”

As Americans tune in to watch President Obama, it is important to remember the facts. He opposed the surge. He predicted it would fail. He said it would make things worse even after it dramatically improved the situation. He voted to cut off funds for our brave soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines fighting in Iraq. For months he refused to accept that the surge he fought was actually a spectacular success. As President Obama usually likes to look backwards and declare the state of everything to be “George Bush’s fault,” my hope is that tonight he stays consistent and looks backwards, and in this case acknowledges that credit should be given where credit is due.

Along with the points that Bill Kristol made yesterday, I too have some suggestions for the president. President Obama, please show grace, humility and some honesty before the American people tonight. Please don’t declare “Mission Accomplished” and then saunter away with an assumption that your opposition to the Iraq strategy was key to our troops’ success. Please end the political posturing. Admit you were wrong about the surge. Recognize what our brave armed forces have achieved. Admit that the strategy long advocated by Republicans, proposed by President Bush, led by Generals Petraeus and Odierno, and executed by thousands of America’s finest – our brave men and women in uniform – brought violence under control and made responsible withdrawals possible. The more honest you are about the past, the more likely it is you will gain the support of the American people for your Iraq policy in the future. We need to be able to trust the White House war strategy, as our children’s future depends on it. Being honest with us tonight is a good starting point in building trust.

- Sarah Palin


***Don't hold your breath waiting for any honesty from these leftists infesting the White House. Honesty isn't in their genes.***

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posted September 01, 2010 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humility and honesty?

here is some honesty for you.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#38945080

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posted September 01, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hold that thought Node.

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posted September 01, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry but MSNBC, Maddow, Olbermann and Matthews couldn't make the needle on the truth meter so much as flicker.

Which is the reason the highest rated show on MSNBC has fewer viewers than the lowest rated show on Fox News.

CABLE NEWS RACE
MON. AUG 30, 2010
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,977,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,645,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,600,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,097,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,858,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,856,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,078,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,027,000
MSNBC SHULTZ 699,000
CNN SANCHEZ 676,000
CNN KING 620,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 620,000
CNNHN GRACE 586,000
CNN COOPER 581,000

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"Family, Faith and the FLag" ie mom, church and apple pie. how original. and how geared to the lowest common denominator and giving them "goosebumps" of appreciation for her humbleness.

and don't you love the way she wears glasses to make her look brainy and hide the fact that she is cross-eyed? (and russian)

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posted September 01, 2010 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Family, Faith and the FLag" ie mom, church and apple pie. how original. and how geared to the lowest common denominator and giving them "goosebumps" of appreciation for her humbleness".....katatonic


Something else to feel sorry for you about katatonic.

Seems you hold no mainstream American values at all.

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posted September 01, 2010 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Which is the reason the highest rated show on MSNBC has fewer viewers than the lowest rated show on Fox News.

So you're trying to say that viewership determines a show's trustworthiness? So every fantasy show that beats FoxNews shows is not only real but trustworthy now? We should believe in CSI, or maybe HBO's latest trendy show? Entertainment wins ratings. The Daily Show is something of a phenomenon in cable ratings, and while it also doesn't reach FoxNews numbers Pew still measures it's viewership as most informed. And that's just a small half hour show. You're reading too much into ratings.

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jwhop you believe in a walt disney america. nothing wrong with mom, church OR apple pie, they just don't very well sum up america, a land made up of immigrants from all over the world, some religious, some not, some believing that having children is everything, some not...etc.

i am at least as american as you are. i played soccer as a kid OMG!!(in those days it was considered a sport for the upper classes, not the general public, so i guess i was ahead of my time) i make a mean apple pie too, but i also excel at spaghetti, couscous, teryaki and vegan dishes.

i believe america is made up of people from all cultures, people who wanted the freedom to live THEIR way and let others do the same, people who think for themselves, not in slogans and youbetchas and homely little cliches that have nothing to do with sarah palin's reality, just some cockamamie hollywood version of "american life" that someone told her would sell.

people who understand that if AMERICAN employers weren't soo happy to pay slave wages to immigrant workers who left their pride at home we wouldn't have an "immigrant" problem.

people who know that when they're not looking glenn beck is admitting it's all about the money and he has found a rich sucker purseline.

people who were not content to stay in their homelands just because they belonged there, but took up stakes and headed for a better life.

people who understand that sarah palin may make a great cheerleader but not even a governor, let alone president.

she can't take the heat. she has proven that over and over again.

i am sorry for YOU, jwhop, that you are so easily hypnotized by a few choice slogans endlessely chanted....and for once a politician who knows how to listen when the stylists tell her what to wear.

"she has nice legs..." as my father in law would say, i've seen better legs hanging out of a sparra's nest! and more brains too.

"Seems you hold no mainstream American values" - jwhop

to me mainstream american values are about carving out your own life. not about lipservice to cliches.

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AG; don't let's forget how many people tuned into LASSIE for over a decade. my grandson doesn't even know what a collie is! or didn't till i showed him one.

as the world turns, she changes. fox may be the most ENTERTAINING "news" station - so people watch it - i'll bet jerry springer had more viewers.

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Jwhop all you have to say is that MSNBC has crummy ratings?

Shows what a weak stance your honey has. Shows what a weak stance you have, and not a leg to stand on.

Who cares who the messenger is if the video is of Bush and the admin -with their own words- showing why they should be in jail, let alone have their party ask for recognition of #2's incompetence, and criminality?

Maddow totally takes the whole 'credit where credit is due' crap that Boehner and others asked for and shows the Barnum and Baily show for what it is.....something you scrape off your shoes after walking the dog.

Nothing proves the point better than Video of the man himself.
George Walker.


Republicans should be thanking Obama for not prosecuting....oh wait that's not done in this country I forgot. The sitting President prosecuting his predecessor? That is usually pardon material
And you better bet that Spain and Canada were given their orders about their efforts to prosecute as well.


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posted September 01, 2010 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Americans want news they don't go to the Kool-Aid drinkers channel...MSNBC.

They go to the "Fair and Balanced" channel, Fox New Network.

BTW, prosecute Bush for what...exactly? Oh, and please be specific.

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no they go for a laugh at beck et al when they want news. just goes to show you that most people aren't all that interested in the NEWS.

since the biggest ever tv audiences on record were a) last winter's superbowl and b) the final episode of MASH (in 1983) both coming in at over 100 million, i would venture the opinion that viewing/listening NUMBERS only tell what's entertaining.

beck's audience appears to be made up of more people who dislike him than those who do like him. polarizing? yes. trusted? i don't THINK so.

and i wonder how many of his fans stretch their INTELLECT to take in the forbes interview where he revealed the depth of his cynicism?

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posted September 02, 2010 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PEWNEWS IQ SCORE

Here's Your Score:
You correctly answered 11 out of the 11 possible questions, which means you did better on the quiz than 95% of the general public.

Gee, I wonder whatever could have happened! I don't watch the "Daily Show"....ever!
http://pewresearch.org/politicalquiz/quiz/

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but you don't seem to be able to understand the relevant fact, that 95% of the public got less than all the questions right. now if the most popular news station is FOX what does that say about the station's news and/or the public's comprehension powers?

edit: and...phew! just took the quiz man was that tough!! (all answers correct and i don't listen to fox news or watch the daily show...)....that sure puts the american public at a high level of awareness

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and did you know that if you have one grandparent who was born in ireland you can claim citizenship there? you don't even have to have ever set foot in the country...so we do make it a little more difficult to be american than some countries demand. a lot more difficult when you think of how hard it is to get here without a lot of money.

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posted September 02, 2010 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"but you don't seem to be able to understand the relevant fact, that 95% of the public got less than all the questions right. now if the most popular news station is FOX what does that say about the station's news and/or the public's comprehension powers?"..katatonic

Obviously, there are a lot of MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Puffington Post and other leftist outlet readers and viewers who took this poll and dragged the averages down.

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posted September 20, 2010 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
52% of Voters Say Their Views Are More Like Palin’s Than Obama’s
Monday, September 20, 2010

Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.

Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

Eighty-four percent (84%) of Republicans and 59% of voters not affiliated with either major party say their views are more like Palin’s. Eighty-one percent (81%) of Democrats say they think more like the president...........
www.rasmussenreports.com

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Likely US Voters according to Rasmussen are by definition those who do NOT support Obama. so of course the polled will not favour him.

that's why you use rasmussen, remember? (don't worry, i am not going to let you forget!)

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