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Topic: Female friends in the bar scene
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Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 25, 2014 10:54 PM
  
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No.. It is not is definitely not a 50/50 thing. It is extremely rare to see a woman make the first move regardless of her placements.
Whaaaaaaaaaa? So not true. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted February 25, 2014 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Whaaaaaaaaaa? So not true.
Yes true. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted February 25, 2014 10:56 PM
Well where your from than maybe but from what I've seen it's definitely 50/50. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 25, 2014 10:57 PM
^ I highly doubt it. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
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posted February 25, 2014 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Violets:
[b] Eh...I don't know. I know some women who are shy and won't make the first move, and I know some guys who require a more outgoing woman who will make the first move. I'm not sure that guys usually get saddled with the responsibility most of the time or not, honestly. I suppose it all depends on a number of factors, realistically.
I guess if that's been your experience, then it's true for you. It's hard to say...  In my experience, no. At least with the people I know, it seems to be about 50/50. Especially depending on signs and placements and whatnot.
No.. It is not is definitely not a 50/50 thing. It is extremely rare to see a woman make the first move regardless of her placements. [/B][/QUOTE]Most have made the first move on me.
Not to mean I'm some crazy desirable guy but it is the truth. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 25, 2014 10:57 PM
LOL if a girl you don't know well is maybe touching your arm and laughing is flirting and thus making a move.
You can flirt back and seal the deal..
Not all women just randomly grab your ass or ask for your number but they flirt and stare and smile and play with their hair.IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted February 25, 2014 10:58 PM
Exactly ^IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 25, 2014 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
LOL if a girl you don't know well is maybe touching your arm and laughing is flirting and thus making a move.
You can flirt back and seal the deal..
Not all women just randomly grab your ass or ask for your number but they flirt and stare and smile and play with their hair.
Flirting is not making a move because girls who openly flirt usually flirt with every guy they meet and are most likely not into you to begin with.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted February 25, 2014 11:05 PM
He meant flirting with that specific person. You really have some issues with women and not accepting that women can do the same things men do. LOLIP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted February 25, 2014 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
He meant flirting with that specific person. You really have some issues with women and not accepting that women can do the same things men do. LOL
i have had girls flirt with me specifically many times and they were never serious. Flirting is rarely serious.. Im only interested in girls who are serious and not wasting my time. Making a move implies action... Flirting is anything but thatIP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted February 25, 2014 11:14 PM
All that he said is exactly what I would've said. It's more than just flirting. There are girls in the world who do pursue guys. Maybe girls don't with you because you prevent them from doing so. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 25, 2014 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
[b]He meant flirting with that specific person. You really have some issues with women and not accepting that women can do the same things men do. LOL
i have had girls flirt with me specifically many times and they were never serious. Flirting is rarely serious.. Im only interested in girls who are serious and not wasting my time. Making a move implies action... Flirting is anything but that[/B][/QUOTE]Maybe you got all cold and serious and scared them off. I'm just about willing to bet so. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted February 25, 2014 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Maybe you got all cold and serious and scared them off. I'm just about willing to bet so.
Actually I wasn't that way in the past.. And even to this day i still tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. having said all of that I do not take flirty girls seriously. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted February 25, 2014 11:32 PM
My experience with girls who flirt has been that they are flakey and don't know what they really want. They may be interested in you one second and cold the next. The thing with flirting is its open to interpretation and people who flirt always have plausible deniability. It is very common for a girl who flirts to shirk responsibility by denying it and saying "i was just being friendly" if you confront them on their behavior. They will say this even if they were clearly implying sexual or romantic interest. Thing is im not interested in girls who imply things and are wishy washy. I want a girl who actually verbalizes whats on her mind. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sibyl:
[b] Yes, I know. I just personally want to avoid people who have the same kinds of insecurities as me as I don't think it would be very constructive for either of us.
A guy who has the same insecurities is the only one who would sympathize with you. A guy who has it all together would just get annoyed. I broke up with my girlfriend the other night because her issues were suffocating me. I have insecurities but d*mn.. Never knew someone could have it that bad.[/B][/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that AG, suspect that is much of the genesis for this one. FWIW, personally I enjoy the flirting whether it leads anywhere or not, that is half of the fun of it all. The gauging of interest, what is being talked about, are they interesting am I being interesting etc What is so terrible about a man showing first "interest" though I'd be willing to bet she has shown whether she is interested or not far before that move is ever made. That involves listening tho. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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posted February 26, 2014 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Well where your from than maybe but from what I've seen it's definitely 50/50.
I would not agree with that BBG, more like 70/30, with that 20% her dropping blatantly obvious hints, future plans, or "oh you like doing that, I like doing that too!" Hint hint hint IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
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posted February 26, 2014 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
I would not agree with that BBG, more like 70/30, with that 20% her dropping blatantly obvious hints, future plans, or "oh you like doing that, I like doing that too!"Hint hint hint
Regardless of the percent lots of girls do do it. Guys are not the only ones. That's all I've tried to get across LOL IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 12:49 AM
Girls aren't the only one.There are a lot of guys that just flirt and lead on girls too.
That's just apart of being human.. It's really both ways for about everything. IP: Logged |
Violets
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From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 12:58 AM
Just to add something to the whole flirting idea, I do not flirt with people. I find it awkward, fake, and weird (personally).I have conversations with people, exchange witty banter (imo), talk about things that we're both interested in, that sort of thing. If we like each other's personalities, have some fundamental stuff in common, and find each other attractive, great. If not, you walk away at some point, or whatever. Or you become friends. It's not some sort of real-life chess game, where there needs to be hardcore strategic moves involved. It either happens, or it doesn't. The End.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 01:02 AM
I'll admit that I also don't take flirty guys very seriously. It weirds me out. Just have a normal effing conversation.  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 8624
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Girls aren't the only one.There are a lot of guys that just flirt and lead on girls too.
That's just apart of being human.. It's really both ways for about everything.
Eh perhaps thats somewhat true... A guy may lead a girl on in the sense that he only wants sex and leads her to believe he wants more. But a girl flirting could mean a billion different things. She may just be on an ego trip, she may just want something from you , or she could just be flirting just because. A girl flirting with you may have zero interest in you (in fact this is this the most likely scenario) , hell she might even find you repulsive, but she will shamelessly flirt with you all the same. A guy may lead a girl on but you can safely assume he is attracted if he is flirting. Can you safely make that assumption when a girl is flirting? Not so much..
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Violets
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From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Eh perhaps thats somewhat true... A guy may lead a girl on in the sense that he only wants sex and leads her to believe he wants more. But a girl flirting could mean a billion different things. She may just be on an ego trip, she may just want something from you , or she could just be flirting just because. A girl flirting with you may have zero interest in you (in fact this is this the most likely scenario) , hell she might even find you repulsive, but she will shamelessly flirt with you all the same. A guy may lead a girl on but you can safely assume he is attracted if he is flirting. Can you safely make that assumption when a girl is flirting? Not so much..
I've met guys who flirt that way, and have no intentions of having sex with the people they're flirting with.
I've had guy friends who are like that. They flirt with their female friends and people in general because that's just the way they are. They don't mean anything by it (or sometimes they do). Personally, I find it exasperating. Like "We're friends, stop being annoying". Just for the record. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 01:14 AM
Maybe gay guys. I have never met a straight guy who behaves in that way. IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2609
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 26, 2014 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Maybe gay guys. I have never met a straight guy who behaves in that way.
Nope. Not just gay guys. Straight guys too. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 8624
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 26, 2014 01:23 AM
^ well i have also met a straight man who gets drunk and puts on women's clothes. But i would hardly call that normal male behavior. There are exceptions to every rule. There may indeed be some men who tease but that behavior is far more common among women. As it is i have never seen a guy do that, but i have seen plenty of women do that. IP: Logged |
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