posted May 17, 2015 01:34 PM            

His Chiron conj your Aphrodite.

The asteroids tell the minute details and never, ever, ever fail to do so.

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posted May 17, 2015 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Moon squares his Angel.

His Chiron conj your Aphrodite.

The asteroids tell the minute details and never, ever, ever fail to do so.

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posted May 17, 2015 01:58 PM            

**edit**
You have a retrograde cancer Nessus like I do😖
iQ told me that indicates abuse by the ones who are suppose to nurture and protect us.

posted May 17, 2015 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:

You have a retrograde cancer Nessus like I do😖
iQ told me that indicates abuse by the ones who are suppose to nurture and protect us.

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I'm glad you pointed this out Gabby.
I have HUGE respect for iQ's work, he has helped me with charts many times, and has a very good understanding of the healing process, and what the soul needs to do to achieve this.

posted May 17, 2015 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I'm glad you pointed this out Gabby.
I have HUGE respect for iQ's work, he has helped me with charts many times, and has a very good understanding of the healing process, and what the soul needs to do to achieve this.

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posted May 17, 2015 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Voix, I kind of feel like we made some enemies here today, I hope not! Ugh! 😨

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posted May 17, 2015 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Gabby, no, never, not from my side, as I said, you are little warrior princesses to me I bow before you!

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posted May 17, 2015 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Gabby, no, never, not from my side, as I said, you are little warrior princesses to me I bow before you!

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posted May 18, 2015 03:37 AM            

There are many impressions it leaves on you that are difficult to articulate.

There are also some things that are hard for others to hear.

In the end it is no one person's fault.

Abuse is a very long series of events, spanning the lives of many individuals, before it reaches us.

posted May 18, 2015 05:46 AM            

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Abuse is a very long series of events, spanning the lives of many individuals, before it reaches us.

The most important thing is that it stops with us, with each individual.

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What I want to say about abuse in general.. is that however a person chooses to heal (whatever works for them) should be respected as such.
No one can (or should) impose upon another a -standardised- way to heal.
The healing process differs from person to person.

My heart goes out to all of you who have been physically and psychologically abused. You are all amazingly strong people, because you *lived on* - you chose not to let this destroy you, and you chose to continue to give your energy, your positivity and creativity to the world around you.

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Hi Voix,
I'll respect your wishes and stick to the astrology.

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He was hurt and dis-empowered, and sought solace and power from me.

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Is this ^ the main thing you would like answered?
I read through the entire thread, and my impression was - you would like an explanation (from the synastry) as to why he targeted you, out of that feeling of powerlessness... or -why- he obsessively "latched on" to *you* personally (and not another person... or another child).

posted May 18, 2015 06:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:

No one can (or should) impose upon another a -standardised- way to heal..

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No one did this. And this is not a topic to give opinions about unless qualified somehow.

Please stop undermining an effort coming from knowledge and love, even if there are disagreements or misunderstandings.

I think the essence of this thread is in the first answer to the OP: RAPE IS NOT LOVE. Period.

There is also a point when individual experience goes beyond individual experience.

Please remember everyone, especially Voix, this is a public forum and everything you write here can be seen by everyone, including children(including your own and in your own family), rape and abuse victims and pedophiles. Children and pedophiles will read the words you leave here.

posted May 18, 2015 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No one did this. And this is not a topic to give opinions about unless qualified somehow.

Please stop undermining an effort coming from knowledge and love, even if there are disagreements or misunderstandings.

I think the essence of this thread is in the first answer to the OP: RAPE IS NOT LOVE. Period.

There is also a point when individual experience goes beyond individual experience.

Please remember everyone, especially Voix, this is a public forum and everything you write here can be seen by everyone, including children(including your own and in your own family), rape and abuse victims and pedophiles. Children and pedophiles will read the words you leave here.

Whatever message you have, it is also a message to them.

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Oh LeeLoo,

why can you not hear me?

REALLY hear me?

Have you reflected on what barriers in yourself are obstructing you hearing me?

I have said, and said, and said, that it is NOT in dispute that my stepfather abused me.

I cannot believe how often I have had to state this.

I have NEVER said that "rape is love". NEVER.

I said he THOUGHT he loved me.
I did NOT say HE DID love me.
I did NOT say I BELIEVED he loved me.
I said I believed HE THOUGHT he loved me.

He did not KNOW what love WAS.
He had never been loved.
How COULD he know?

It's actually hurting me now to keep having to explain myself.

I worked hard for my voice.

This is more about you, LeeLoo, than me.

posted May 18, 2015 06:46 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No one did this. And this is not a topic to give opinions about unless qualified somehow.

Please stop undermining an effort coming from knowledge and love, even if there are disagreements or misunderstandings.

I think the essence of this thread is in the first answer to the OP: RAPE IS NOT LOVE. Period.

There is also a point when individual experience goes beyond individual experience.

Please remember everyone, especially Voix, this is a public forum and everything you write here can be seen by everyone, including children(including your own and in your own family), rape and abuse victims and pedophiles. Children and pedophiles will read the words you leave here.

Whatever message you have, it is also a message to them.

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posted May 18, 2015 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Is this ^ the main thing you would like answered?
I read through the entire thread, and my impression was - you would like an explanation (from the synastry) as to why he targeted you, out of that feeling of powerlessness... or -why- he obsessively "latched on" to *you* personally (and not another person... or another child).

Would this be your main question?
I find it easier to interpret a synastry chart, if I have a clear question in mind.

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Odette,

thank you for taking the time and effort to understand and honour this thread.

Sadly, I have lost interest in the astrology for the time being, due to the interrogation on this thread.

Even the police didn't patronise me like this.

What has happened here is some posters have allowed their fears to deafen them, and hijack their ability to understand and empathise.

So be it.

I am not a stone.

posted May 18, 2015 06:56 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Voix,
I just want to say that I think you are very mature in the way you are handling things. When I read your posts I don't sense any bitterness or anger and I commend you for that. Frankly, I'm disturbed that people are trying to tell you that you are wrong for handling things the way that you are. When I was younger my dad would get drunk and was physically abusive towards me. He was also largely absent during my teen years. But like you, I don't feel any anger towards him. I tried to understand what caused him to be the way he was and it allowed me to heal and forgive him. Compassion and understanding is the only way to heal the brokenness of the human condition.

Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die- Buddha

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Aquaguy,

thank you, I appreciate you sharing your understanding.

It seems you chanced on the same path as Gabby and I.

posted May 18, 2015 06:58 AM            

This is getting VERY disturbing already.

Voix, most of your posts here are showing you believe your stepfather thought he loved you, that you had a "special connection", that you even healed him, which is a distorted vision of the dynamics between an abuser and his victim. It's simply untrue, but that's something for you to find out someplace else, not here.

I don't want to quote all these posts, I will focus on the very disturbing OP:

"He treated me as a partner, a confidante, a comrade, a sexual partner. Our relationship was very emotional, it wasn't all sex."
He didn't treat you as a partner a confidante a comrade a sexual partner: he RAPED you as a child and abused you.

Many pedophiles are fighting hard their urges to hurt children. Suppose one of them has an opportunity now, yet fighting it. What should he understand from your phrase here, your OP, your posts in this thread?

What should a child understand?

What should other rapists and potential killers understand?

What should the rape victims understand?

posted May 18, 2015 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Aquaguy, I know you are the usual raisonneur and the little flame here, but using this as your Monday distraction is truly immoral.

This is getting VERY disturbing already.

Voix, most of your posts here are showing you believe your stepfather thought he loved you, that you had a "special connection", that you even healed him, which is a distorted vision of the dynamics between an abuser and his victim. It's simply untrue, but that's something for you to find out someplace else, not here.

I don't want to quote all these posts, I will focus on the very disturbing OP:

"He treated me as a partner, a confidante, a comrade, a sexual partner. Our relationship was very emotional, it wasn't all sex."
He didn't treat you as a partner a confidante a comrade a sexual partner: he RAPED you as a child and abused you.

Many pedophiles are fighting hard their urges to hurt children. Suppose one of them has an opportunity now, yet fighting it. What should he understand from your phrase here, your OP, your posts in this thread?

What should a child understand?

What should other rapists and potential killers understand?

What should the rape victims understand?

I know this comes from a place of pain, and it is unintentional, but you are condoning pedophilia and rape with your posts.

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The OP has been explained endlessly LeeLoo.

I have asked you to reflect, honestly.

I have told you this is hurting me.

I have asked you to stop.

You are veering into bullying territory.

Have you noticed that you are the only one STILL targeting me?

STILL misunderstanding me?

This is not helpful, nor informed, nor ethical.

posted May 18, 2015 07:20 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You are hurting me too! Just because you were abused it doesn't mean you can say anything, that people have to agree with everything you say. You are supposed to be more responsible about the message you send about these issues!
It's not just about you!

Perhaps some matters are supposed to be solved in private before being brought on a public forum; when you bring them here, you have to send a message taking everyone into consideration, including other victims and other rapists! and other potential victims!

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If you had truly understood one word I said, you would not be spearheading this witch-hunt against me, under the guise of "protecting" people, LeeLoo.

This thread wasn't about working anything out, it was about astrology.

You appear to be the only person now who cannot see that.

It is clear, at least to me, that you have much to resolve within yourself, before you can truly understand trauma.

Perhaps, you are still too close to your own.