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YIVY
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From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 20, 2001 12:02 AM
 
Grey...what COURAGE...!!!Wish I had had your courage, but then again the man died, but sometimes late at night I wonder how many other lives he ruined I could have saved...   ------------------
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YIVY
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LMB
Moderator Posts: 653
From: Cooltown, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 20, 2001 02:10 PM
My love goes out to you, Grey. I'm sorry for your past trauma, how horrible. I will take your advice, thank you. Love
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financechick
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From: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted April 20, 2001 08:36 PM
YIVY, GREY. I can sympathize with you. I often wonder why this happens at all and if it's part of the "test", that's why I asked for YIVY to Lexi that guys name for me, he did something awful to me and I guess I need to have a reason..you know..."why?" but I know I didn't do anything and that it wasn't my fault but I still kind of fell that there must have been something in my character that made him feel that he could do that to me.Lately I've been very confused. I do not know who to trust anymore. I guess I put too much faith in people...I tend to belive that all people are good but I'm learning that a lot of people are only out for themselves. Sometimes I wonder if these feelings are ever going to pass. You know, all the things Randall told me about my chart and all the things Lyndel told me about my chart...made me feel like Ihave special purpose here...and for the life of me..I can't figure out what that is. Could it be that I'm looking to hard? I am a truth seeker..that's all I know. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 20, 2001 09:27 PM
FC, your purpose will find you. Just be patient. You must continue to trust others. What good is anything unless we have faith in humanity? It has been my experience that most people are truly good. You will experience this, too.  LMB: "Even this, too, shall pass." Grey: I feel Love is in the air. I'm not sure about the astrological implications or signs, but it's just an intuitive flash I get. I think this has been building for some time, but you were not ready. You have to speak to your wife (in Spirit) and truly beLIeVE that she wants you to Love another. She does, you k-NOW. She truly does. ------------------
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thegreyone
Knowflake Posts: 520
From: St. John's,NF,Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 20, 2001 10:56 PM
Thanks Randall, I guess I've been feeling her presence a lot lately, maybe I have blocked the message because I am not ready but I sure hope I am ready soon.  ------------------
I have loved,I love,I will love.
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YIVY
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From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 21, 2001 12:28 AM
Grey, the Native Americans believe we have two souls...well the ones from Florida believe we have more than two, but then it was discovered that they are not even genetically related to the rest of the Native American..(huummm...a branch of the Atlantians maybe???)Sorry, anyway, one soul goes up to Heaven or whatever, the other stays until those who love it let it leave. That is the part that re-incarnated, but not until it has gone on (and maybe learned..???) then comes back. They believe we should let the soul go, and not try to hold it back. But sometimes the soul stays to help out the living love...it might be she is trying to say goodbye so she can come back... Once you let go and show her you are going to be fine, it will ease her mind and she can get on with her business. It would be hard to leave (even if for a while) someone I love if I see they still need me. I am not sure I am putting this right, but hope you understand. When she comes back, only the important part will be the women you loved. She will have created a whole new life and personality. It is a lot of work. Oh, Grey, I wish I could hold you and give you a big hug...because I think you need a physical hug. You know (in your heart) it is time to say goodbye...see you later, dear! She can't come back till you let her go....please don't cry...I can hear you from Louisiana... It won't be long, because I think she really wants to be with you on the physical plane...not just the spiritual... On my Honor, I hope I haven't overstepped my boundaries with this, but...you know it is time... Love to you, Grey...  ------------------
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YIVY
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thegreyone
Knowflake Posts: 520
From: St. John's,NF,Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 21, 2001 11:08 AM
Yes, I too, believe that at long last it is time to move on, I know that now as there have been signs.Things have just been coming to a head and I am finally able to think about my wife and daughter without my eyes welling up.
Your intuition is right on the money {as usual} about needing a hug, and please, please, please, don't ever think that you could ever possibly step over any boundaries with me because it simply is not possible for you to do so. This site and all of the people I have come to love here is the only place, and the only people with whom I feel comfortable enough to open my soul without fear of ridicule and I CHERISH you all for that.
The knowledge that I have gained here is what has allowed me to to come to terms with my loss.
From the bottom of my heart and the very depths of my soul, I thank-you all.
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 21, 2001 01:08 PM
I agree with YIVY. It's not so much, though, that you are keeping her here, but she wants to be close to you until you are ready. And let's not forget your daughter's Energy. All of our Loved Ones and family are around during special occasions (even after reincarnating, which is a difficult concept to grasp, being as how time is an illusion and all, but they are here and there and elsewhere all at once), but your wife is administering to you Spiritually bringing healing to your Soul. YIVY is right. She needs to say goodbye. But she will still be around during special occasions, regardless of her next Mission (and around during past Lives the two of you have shared--one of which you may have left them through death and are consoling them Spiritually, because the moving pictures of time continue on unending from beginning to end unceaseless). Sorry if all this sounds confusing. That's why we have linear Minds; we couldn't process all that goes on in the vastness of infinity. In this linear illusion we currently reside in, it's time to let go, is what I am saying. It's time to be happy again. It's time to Love.
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gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 21, 2001 11:31 PM
Grey, I feel very much the same way as YIVY and Randall, I wish I could state the way I feel as eloquently as they did. Much love to you I don't know the circumstances behind things, but from what I've read it seems that you've been through a really traumatic journey. I haven't lost anyone very close to me at this time, and it wrenches my heart to think of what you must have been through. I wish I could give you a hug too {{hug}}.The most amazing story that I know of, close to me, that has happened regarding souls coming back or reassurance from the other side, has to do with my inlaws. Miriam and Joe had three children, Joseph Jr., Richard and April. All three children were under the age of 10 I believe when a fire broke out in their house on Christmas Eve. Even though Miriam and Joe tried to save the children, Joseph Jr. was the only one to survive. Richard and April were 7 and 9 I believe, they passed away. Miriam was burned over a large percentage of her body, and was thought that she couldn't have any more children. A few years later she became pregnant, and gave birth to fraternal twins. A boy and a girl. Miriam and Joseph named them Raymond and Randi, the R and A (the first two letters of their name) were in honor of Richard and April. I've been told that they're pretty sure Richard became Ray, and April became Randi. Ray is my daughter's father. Sherry, please don't ever lose faith in the human race. There may be people out there who will try your patience or hurt you, but for every soul that does something mean towards you, there is a soul who wishes you love and healing. I don't want to sound like a Hallmark card or something, I just really feel that way. Don't think I haven't felt the way that you sometimes might! Many times I've felt like there are just way too many mean, self-serving people around. Like Randall said, be patient. And don't get down on yourself because you haven't found your mission yet  IP: Logged |
YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 22, 2001 12:17 AM
Grey...I am so glad you truly understand...I also wanted to say this on my last post, but felt I had said too much already. Your daughter has already made arrangements to re-incarnate close to you again. I am not sure if it is a Saturn Seven or a re-birth. You will know her as she is still carrying some trauma. She still has not gotten over the shock of losing you so suddenly (that is the way she saw it). So when you meet again, you might try and ease her mind a little. Randall is so right...time being the nuisance it is....we are here and there in the same moment. He explained it much better than I. Sherry, GooberLily is right about not giving up your ability to trust again... GooberLily...what a tremendous story of human courage and a Soul's love! Much much to all of you...  ------------------
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YIVY
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Randall
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posted April 22, 2001 01:43 AM
Grey, how old (in illusory time) was your daughter? ------------------
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thegreyone
Knowflake Posts: 520
From: St. John's,NF,Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 22, 2001 09:17 AM
Six months, my wife was 22.
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted April 22, 2001 05:31 PM
I got the impression she was under one. I felt an Energy with little Life experience. It is sometimes difficult to understand why a Soul would incarnate for such a short time, and the Energy of the individual is always shocked when he/she doesn't receive the equal chance that others have (although on a higher plane, it was a choice). I agree with YIVY that she is still a bit devastated that you were taken from her so abruptly. The good thing about the Thunderbolt Path of Accelerated Karma is that it will end! Geez! Immortals have to be the strongest people on the planet. ------------------
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LMB
Moderator Posts: 653
From: Cooltown, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 22, 2001 06:36 PM
Grey, I, too, didn't know of your trauma and I'm so so sorry. I'm glad you have found some refuge here with us. I surround you with a flame of golden love. LMB IP: Logged |
thegreyone
Knowflake Posts: 520
From: St. John's,NF,Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 23, 2001 12:34 AM
Thanks LMB, I needed that. ------------------
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YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 23, 2001 12:37 AM
Ain't it the TRUTH,  The THUNDERBOLT Path is taking thousands of years (illusionary years...Yeah, I bet) and rolling it into one lifetime...wait not even a whole life time..just a few decades. Some might call us crazy for deciding this, but then again we will have it all over and done with (I hope...I SWEAR I AM LEARNING MY LESSONS...)  Anyhoo...what is a few illusionary decades...   ------------------
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YIVY
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Pegesus
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posted April 23, 2001 02:46 PM
Dear Grey,
I too am just learning the story of your loss and I wish you love and healing. I know somewhat what it feels like, I too have lost a child and I know I will feel the effects of that for the rest of my life. But like you, that loss is what REALLY really started my search for "answers". I HAD to know where my daughter was and what she was DOING and I knew it wasn't sitting on a cloud and playing a harp!! I think for me at least the ultimate lesson I've learned so far is that no matter what happens, it's all going to be ok. There is rhymm and reason to everything and granted there is alot of pain involved in growth(for alot of us)but once you experience that growth life does indeed become beautiful again. No soul that's ever loved you wants you to be alone. If you can find love again, grab it with both hands!!! It's what we're here for!! You are a beautiful person and have alot to give. I wish you much love and happiness ahead of you!! IP: Logged |
YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 23, 2001 11:04 PM
Pegasus..I grieve with thee in thy loss... You are right, sometimes a loss can be a DIVINE SPARK which ignites our 'search'. ------------------
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YIVY
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Randall
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posted April 24, 2001 01:42 AM
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thegreyone
Knowflake Posts: 520
From: St. John's,NF,Canada
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posted April 24, 2001 06:12 AM
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LMB
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From: Cooltown, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 24, 2001 01:27 PM
I have a joint therapy appt. with my therapist and my mother tonight... we're going to talk about Easter. I'm scared. My whole life my mother has been my world, she's had all the answers. I've looked to her to give me an identity. I realize that's unhealthy now. But it's hard to let go of my need for her and her validation. And she is NOT giving me validation on what happened. Please keep me in your prayers tonight... Love to all,
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Randall
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posted April 24, 2001 01:39 PM
It will be worth it. Love and Light in bunches tonight. ------------------
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D.Light
Knowflake Posts: 130
From: U K
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted April 24, 2001 01:52 PM
LMB I vow to send you some energy - I'll be thinking of you sweetie. Diane
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Marigold
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From: England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted April 24, 2001 04:27 PM
I recommend Soul Retrieval by Sandra Ingerman, depression can be the sign of some soul loss, since a trauma...IP: Logged |
gooberlily
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From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 24, 2001 08:48 PM
I wish you lots of heavenly support in this LMB My love goes out to you Pegesus and Grey IP: Logged |
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