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posted April 24, 2001 09:26 PM         

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LMB, may you find Growth through this, and may you be surrounded and Protected by inpenetrable Light.

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posted April 24, 2001 09:44 PM         

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Lots and lots and lots of love and healing energy for you dearest LMB. just remember that after the rain, you get a

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posted April 24, 2001 10:52 PM         

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LMB
I wish for you....empowerment...
for this will bring you true love.......self lOve

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posted April 25, 2001 12:05 AM         

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You know how much I you, LMB.
Let's just hope you get some issues worked out, and can build a stronger relationship...One where BOTH of you are nurished...

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posted April 25, 2001 11:46 AM         

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Sorry for an anticlimax, but the session did not happen last night. During my therapy session, my therapist and I decided that I was doing this out of anger and I wanted my therapist to "stick it to her" too much. And that we both didn't know what, really, is at the core of my issues with my mother. So we opted to postpone it which was a REALLY hard decision for me. So in the meantime, she and I will talk more about this and the Mom session will take place at a later time. In the meantime, my heart is breaking a little more every day as I realize that she may never support me in this. She was my voice for so long, the only person I trusted as a child. To not have her support... just feels like death.

I feel raw and ripped apart.

LMB

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posted April 25, 2001 11:48 AM         

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This is a day for crying, I guess.

Your support just got me choked up. Thank you all for caring so much, even if you are millions of miles away.

I truly do feel it.

LMB

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posted April 25, 2001 12:20 PM         

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We'll always be as close as your modem, dearest one.

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posted April 25, 2001 04:51 PM         

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OK, LMB...I am going to be 'frank' for a change....(don't say it, GooberLily or Last)

Perhaps your mother actually has the hardest part. On the Spiritual Level she has agreed to help you learn to speak up for yours-ELF in spite of what people think. She loves you very very much, and to agree to do this (on her spiritual subconscious level) must hurt.

I found even my most fiercest opponents or enemies seemed to melt away once I started thinking on the spiritual level instead of the physical. Another thing I found was people with handicaps either physical or mental was this. Upon meeting them, I mentally speak with them...sorta SPIRIT to SPIRIT.

I mentally congratulate their choice, or ask them what or whom they are helping. I speak over the physical level. You should see their eyes when I do this. They change and show understanding.

So, it might help to start thinking on a Spiritual level. LMB, I know it is hard at first to dis-believe all that is going on, but once you start you begin to see the 'behind the scene' reasons, not the ones in evidence..

Plus once you start, it short circuits the agreements and they end or alter...just try and let me know what happens...

I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT....MISS BRAVEHEART...

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posted April 25, 2001 05:38 PM         

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Grey - Thanks!!

Yivy - yes, you are right. I have to get my feet back on the spiritual ground that I have embarked on. I have to realize that this is happening for a reason, a Higher purpose. It's a hard thing to realize, however.

I think it has to do with my independence. I've always relied on my mother to speak FOR me, to think FOR me. Now I am having to be my own mother and speak for mys-elf. I am having to mourn my childhood and all that she could not do for me, but realize that I am who I am because of what happened. I would not change that because I like who I am today (my god, I would not have said that one year ago).

if ever you see me straying off into mortal-detail-land, could you please re-mind me of just that and of this Higher purpose?

Love to all, amidst the tears,
LMB

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posted April 25, 2001 06:57 PM         

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So, true, LMB--your past built who you are today, and that person is superb!

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posted May 14, 2001 07:17 AM         

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Kudos to a great thread ...

And I haven't read the whole thing ... probably going to get mysElf into trouble here ...

First ... the question of the ages is ... physilogical or psychological? And the follow up question since most people agree that it's both on some degree is ... which one more? And of course the answer is different for everyone. Gooberlily ... I suspect U have had heavy physiological issues. Randall, if U were depressed tomorrow ... take a look at your environment. But the answer is ... it doesn't matter. The relationship between misfired electrical pusles in the brain and a down-trodden soul is cyclical ... even if not in equal parts via the perfect yin-yang. Thus ... start anywhere u want on the circle and u can impact the rest thru the flow of things.
The real trick is to bring the message from the mountain ... Depressed people intellectually understand they should do something to help themsElfs ... but emotionally don't "want" to ... How we get around That is the Important issue.

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posted May 14, 2001 10:21 AM         

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A very warm WELCOME to you Grasshopper....

And you are right...the BATTLE between the intellect and the emotions for a depressed soul is the 'hardest'.

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posted May 14, 2001 11:53 AM         

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Welcome Grasshopper!
Good points! however I believe the blocks are not a case of "don't want to" but more a block between Knowing/and Doing
how we get around it (or snap out of it) is the salient point though
namaste
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posted May 14, 2001 01:30 PM         

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Very wise words, Grasshopper. I can tell that you have much to teach us.

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posted May 15, 2001 12:57 AM         

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Grasshopper, which books of Linda's have you read?

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posted May 15, 2001 07:37 AM         

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Hmmm ... I've Read Star Signs cover to cover. I kinda flip thru Sun Signs and Love Signs as the urge strikes me. And I'm plodding my way thru Gooberz (and I'm a s l l o w w w reader). Ugh, does there have to be a tragedy every fifteen pages?

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posted May 15, 2001 09:24 AM         

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Cool! Star Signs was AWESOME! Get through Gooberz. You'll be glad you did. Linda's childhood was very tragic. But it all comes together nicely in the end.

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posted May 15, 2001 09:35 AM         

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So I have been told by many loved ones, Ranall ...

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posted May 15, 2001 09:41 AM         

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I cried through most of Gooberz.

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posted May 16, 2001 12:24 AM         

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Hi folks,
Not to belabor an old topic, but if you remember my session with my mom supposedly happening, well it's happening tomorrow night...
wish me luck..

Much love,
LMB

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posted May 16, 2001 05:21 AM         

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Good Luck LMB

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posted May 16, 2001 07:54 AM         

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Good luck...
remember... lOve heals

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posted May 16, 2001 10:37 AM         

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Fight, cry, scream, or anything else you have to do, but above all else...forgive. Forgiveness is truly the only way to completely heal.

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posted May 17, 2001 10:22 PM         

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well..I thought I'd comment on this again. I am still on my medication and I've seemed to stabalize on it despite the fact that i don't want to be on them....I think I'm going to need to take a week of vacation to try to get off of them...I swing real bad when I try to stop taking them....anyway...the reason I take them is becasue of something that happened to me a while ago that I just kept inside...I didn't tell anyone...until this past septmeber or so...nobody in my family knows. I wish I could tell my parents but I have my reasons for not doing that....1. I don't think my Dad could handle it...2. I don't think I'd get the support from my mother that I need and I don't need the doubt.

I really don't think anyone would believe me...my close friends know the truth and I guess that's all that matters...so I'm trying really hard to put it all behind me even though sometimes it's hard.

Sometimes I don't understand this thing called "life" and these "tests" that we have to go through while we're here...sometimes Isee the "big picture" other times I don't see any picture....sometimes I thin I don't "get it" other times I think that it's everyone else that doesn't "get it".

Sometmies I wonder what I'm supposed to make out of all of it...I KNOW all things happen for a reason...but how much is predetermined and how much is choice...you know..free will? What is really SUPPOSED to happen? and why?

these are the mysteries of life I guess...and I'm sure if we all knew what was going to happen, then life would be really boring and pointless.

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posted May 17, 2001 10:33 PM         

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At least we have these Forums. Acceptance and friendship without prejudice or conditions.

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