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Topic: Depression...
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chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 02, 2001 12:41 PM
 
Spiritua~ I am very sorry to hear of your experience with depression  But, what Gooberlily says is very intelligent advise - you should definately consult a HEALING physician before you stop taking the medication... It's possible that you will experience the effects of the *detox*, which I understand can be difficult, so you would want the help of someone knowledgable about that as well  We are all praying for you, you can be certain of that,  ~Princess
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~We can try many ways to get rid of the darkness, but none is as effective as simply increasing the light.~ UnkNown IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 02, 2001 11:55 PM
Thank you all very much for your support.  I've been thinking about my situation and have made a decision. I'll be having my first session with a new psychiatrist sometime soon, because my last one has a new job with the government. If my new psychiatrist is smart, he or she probably won't approve of me going off medications if he or she doesn't even know my tendencies. So, I'll wait until I've seen him or her a few times, then tell him or her that I want to lower my dosage slowly and see what happens. During that time, I'll observe my actions. If I can't handle life, I'll stay on the medications a while longer. If I seem to be doing fine, I'll keep lowering the dosage gradually. If I feel strange and bad every so often, I'll raise the dosage for that time only. I'm sure that I'll be off the meds eventually. Until then, I'll search for a remedy that works without damaging my body. Thanks for all your help. IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 03, 2001 12:19 PM
Spiritua~ Have you considered talking to a psychologist that does past life regressions as well? I know this kind of therapy has helped others more than any drug ever could. Just be sure you are ready and able to be presented with things that might be upsetting <~~~~ my guess is you have had past life experiences that were soooo hurtful, and they left you with such profound and painful emotions you brought the resulting feelings of pain and dispair with you into this life  .....just a thought  I have read that this kind of therapy has been able to quickly and fully turn peoples lives and hearts around  Please let us know how you are feeling and coming along, ~Princess ------------------
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Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted December 03, 2001 12:28 PM
Princess, that sounds like a really good idea. Definitely can't hurt and might make a HUGE difference.IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 03, 2001 08:42 PM
Now that I think of it, I have an aunt who lives in Maui. She's an astrologer/psychologist/past-life regression healer/Kabbalist, and she might be able to help. I actually asked her to do some past-life regression therapy on me when I was twelve, but she said she refused to do it to her family members. It could have also been because I was young. I'll e-mail her and explain the situation (she already knows I take meds.) If she still refuses, I'll ask her if she knows of any good past-life regression therapists who live around Ontario, Canada. Maybe she'll know some. IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 04, 2001 02:59 AM
Spiritua~ Excellent Keep us posted?~Princess ------------------
~We can try many ways to get rid of the darkness, but none is as effective as simply increasing the light.~ UnkNown IP: Logged |
Angelique
Knowflake Posts: 202
From: Southwest Missouri, United States
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted December 05, 2001 08:57 PM
Spiritua...Dear, sweet child, I know just what you feel like, being chronically depressed. That's how I am, and it's a hard road. If you want to email me you may, and if you find things hard just remember things will get better in time. As YIVY keeps telling us all, and I quote, "THIS TOO SHALL PASS". They're very wise words. Good luck with your meds, and do keep us posted! Ja ne!
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Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 06, 2001 12:04 AM
I read elsewhere in the "Health and Healing" thread about Edgar Cayce's cure for depression and people who are bi-polar. I don't remember everything about it, but I remember something about energy in the spine. I have had an extremely minor case of scoliosis since I was a baby. Perhaps this is connected??!
(In case you were wondering, Scoliosis is an extremely harsh-sounding medical description of a curviture in the spine.) IP: Logged |
Marigold
Knowflake Posts: 771
From: England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted December 06, 2001 07:43 AM
Spiritua, and Gooberlily, have you tried Chinese medicine, or acupuncture maybe? In the Chinese medicine system, the unbalance of an element (I suspect METAL in your cases as in mine) leads to the symptoms you described.
I think our old friends the vaccines are not innocent in that respect.
The symptoms will be different in men and women because women lose a lot of toxicity through menstrual blood, leading to a metal deficiency (iron, zinc, copper) whereas men have an overload.
No vaccine at the age of 7, Spiritua?IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 07, 2001 05:35 AM
No, I haven't tried Chinese medicine or acupuncture Marigold, but I have an open mind!   Spiritua - I'll have to look up that thread, I don't remember reading it  IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 07, 2001 11:48 PM
Does acupuncture involve magnets? If so, I've tried it before- but only once. It was three years ago. It worked very well, but I was being treated for something completely different. I had just injured my leg in a karate lesson, and it took only three hours of treatment before I was walking normally again. Is acupuncture when somebody uses magnets on a part of one's body completely different from but esoterically related to the one that needs healing? If so, then your suggestion is likely to work- but I don't know any good acupuncturists except the one that healed me three years ago. She's my elf (grand) uncle's wife, and she lives in Israel. You don't just fly from Israel to Canada on a whim unless you're an extremely rich Aquarius.  On another note, I've just realized something important. I don't usually get any violent thoughts until two or three minutes AFTER I take the meds.  Yes, I do feel strange just before I'm supposed to take the meds, but perhaps that's the detox effect, and NOT the body asking for the meds. That still doesn't explain the guilt and violent sensations I used to feel before I started taking the meds, unless Chronic Princess' guess about my past life is correct (which I believe it is), but at least I'm making progress in my discoveries. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2001 12:07 AM
Acupuncture involves needles.  ------------------
"Man is the only animal that blushes...or needs to." Mark Twain IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 08, 2001 12:18 AM
In that case, I haven't tried Chinese medicine or acupuncture.  IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 08, 2001 02:41 AM
Spiritua~ "In that case, I haven't tried Chinese medicine or acupuncture." You are too cute, and crack me up! Do you live in Canada? Where is Bellville? I know a Canadian that needs a good Karate kick in the butt! Nothin' bad mind you, just a little wake-up call?  <teasin> I am reading a book that Ghost suggested a while back, ANATOMY OF THE SPIRIT, The Seven Stages of Power and Healing, by Caroline Myss, PH.D. - Purdy darn interesting - you might want to check it out ~Princess
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~We can try many ways to get rid of the darkness, but none is as effective as simply increasing the light.~ UnkNown IP: Logged |
Raines
Knowflake Posts: 739
From: Mississippi
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 08, 2001 03:24 AM
Hey!! I got that book from my grandmother last Christmas. She gave me another one that I've started but I've been reading a lot of other stuff. Maybe it's time to read it and see what's up. THANKS. IP: Logged |
Marigold
Knowflake Posts: 771
From: England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted December 08, 2001 04:21 AM
I haven't tried Chinese medicine nor acupuncture myself (I prefer Nutrition) but the principles are interesting, it shows how illness progresses along meridians, for example:
liver>>muscles, sinews, nerves>> eyes
intestine(constipation, irritable bowel syndrome)>>skin(eg eczema)>>lungs(eg asthma)>>brain(mental problems, memory loss etc)I haven't read that book of Carolyn Myss, but I've read another of hers, The Creation of Health, good too. IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 08, 2001 11:01 AM
Spiritua, when I was on Prozac it used to make me very violent. Do you feel that your violence is less or more than before you started taking meds? IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 08, 2001 11:39 PM
Gooberlily, my violence decreases greatly when I'm on meds. What happens is, I'm suddenly bombarded with violent thoughts for two or three minutes, then they disappear until two or three minutes after I take the meds the next time. Before I took the meds, I had violent or guilty thoughts ALL THE TIME. I feel better when I take the medications (AFTER the violent thoughts die down), but it's all an illusion. I'd much rather live in naturality. IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 09, 2001 02:29 AM
Spiritua~ Indeed, illusion... "Mind is ever the builder"  ~Princess ------------------
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Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted December 09, 2001 12:25 PM
Is depression something that the person suffering it has to deal with themselves or is there something that others can say or do that is helpful? One of my customers popped in the other day and I hadn't seen her in a few weeks. When I asked her how she was, she replied "shi**y". When I asked how come, she said she'd been suffering from depression and she wasn't happy with her meds. She really looked miserable and I did not know how to reach out with at least some helpful or hopeful words. Any suggestions for the next time I see her? IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted December 09, 2001 03:17 PM
VirgoRising~ ...sigh... I am not an expert on depression, and I'm pretty sure there are none ! that have all the answers - unless they are intuititive healing psychics, I only know from living thru my son experiencing it. It is truly frustrating for those that want so much to make another's depression better, because truly, there really isn't much if anything another can *say* to make the sufferer feel or be better. I think being a *good listener* (and in my son's case, lots of *holding*) probably goes further toward helping them help themselves. I do believe that depression is born in a heart/soul that is troubled (and our *weak* nutritional envirnoments), not in mis-fired brain chemistry (my personal opinion is that the drepression causes the chemistry change). However, I've considered that depression is a horrible symptom of our lack of pure healthy foods and environment - on a large scale *malnutrition*. Marigold's posts reflect this too, and I tend to agree with her.However, someone taking meds for severe depression (most prescriptions are doled out for minor depression tho - the kind *time, love and soul-searching can heal) might be more receptive to another's loving words or advice because the meds do allow them to see past the darkness - if only for a time - especially when the side affects cause them to seek other methods of managing/healing it. That said, probably alot of prayer and Pink and White Light directed toward your friend/customer would be most affective in your endeavor to help her - right after you acknowledge her pain; unless we have ever been severely depressed ourselves, we truly can not say, "I understand." Unfortuneatly, like any pain medication, anti-d's can not do anything but ease the symptoms(pain). They can/do not heal ~Princess ------------------
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Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted December 10, 2001 12:13 AM
Thanks Princess. Until the other day, I had no idea that this woman was suffering so and its just been haunting me since. I am really sad FOR her! IP: Logged |
gooberlily
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 11, 2001 03:32 AM
I'd have to agree with Princess, VR...the best advice I could offer would be just to be there, and be willing to listen. Sometimes you can't do much more The two things that sometimes worked with me, were simple. Usually silence with a sympathetic look did wonders, funny enough. Or, someone reminding me, 'This too shall pass.' It's funny, but that one phrase usually helped. Just me, though... Hope your customer is feeling better soon IP: Logged |
Spiritua
Knowflake Posts: 1474
From: Toronto
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted December 11, 2001 07:42 PM
So do I. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted December 12, 2001 08:43 AM
Me, three! ------------------
"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |
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