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Topic: 11th harmonics and Twinflames
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 09:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: His natal activated 11 more of my 11th aspects. What's so funny I find is how much more my natal activates his 11th harmonic yet I'm the one who is awakened and knows the connection between us! I would feel it would almost be the other way around in that he would have picked up on the connection first, given I activated his 11th so strongly...hmmmm, oh well.
The 11th is very internal, so maybe it is too deep and subtle to be "in your face". Maybe it has to be channelled through the 1st harmonic - the basic natal chart. Or just takes some more time to wake up (through progressions, transits, first meeting charts maybe?) It made me laugh actually our 11th harmonic composite has an ASC on 11 Sag (boy I need to recalculate cause that composite CAN`T be true. Too creepy, for real! Especially with the outers there - later more) Anyway 11 Sag, and our first meeting chart had an ASC of 9 Sag and of course this relates to both our natal charts. This is goosebumpy, isn´t it? IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 10:11 AM
Wow, Ceri! Yes..that 11 degree composite ASC is CRAZY!!! It's really pretty amazing the deeper we probe, the more things we find! It just makes your eyes go 😳 IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 10:38 AM
So do you think it's significant that our tropical composite ASC/DSC axis falls on 11 degrees Virgo/Pisces??!! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 11:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: So do you think it's significant that our tropical composite ASC/DSC axis falls on 11 degrees Virgo/Pisces??!!
Why do you think that it would? D `oh! *slapforehead* Because it is in the 11th harmonic, right? Eleven? lol So weird, that we also have an ASC on 11 degree (just in Sagittarius), though as a mattr of fact Moon falls onto 11 Virgo, only 10 minutes from squaring the ASC. I find that nteresting, cause natally he has Mars on 11 Virgo, and I have Jupiter on 11 Pisces, which is an opposition of our chartrulers (Aries intercepted in his 1st house).
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 11:28 AM
Wow I just had the idea to progress our 11th harmonic composite to the day of when I am going to see him as Artus.(complicated, even with Solar fire. lol) But Jeez, pr 11th Sun cojunct pr 11th DESC with only 27 minutes of arc, on 14 Cancer - Sirius.
probably I am taking it to far now though. lol
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 11:29 AM
Ceri, you're right about the orb. Tgem, sorry, I overlooked you were comparing 11th with natal, and not 11th harmonics between themselves.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Wow I just had the idea to progress our 11th harmonic composite to the day of when I am going to see him as Artus.(complicated, even with Solar fire. lol) But Jeez, pr 11th Sun cojunct pr 11th DESC with only 27 minutes of arc, on 14 Cancer - Sirius.
probably I am taking it to far now though. lol
Knock yourself out, Ceri 
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 11:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Why do you think that it would?D `oh! *slapforehead* Because it is in the 11th harmonic, right? Eleven? lol So weird, that we also have an ASC on 11 degree (just in Sagittarius), though as a mattr of fact Moon falls onto 11 Virgo, only 10 minutes from squaring the ASC. I find that nteresting, cause natally he has Mars on 11 Virgo, and I have Jupiter on 11 Pisces, which is an opposition of our chartrulers (Aries intercepted in his 1st house).
No our 11 degree ASC in Virgo actually is in our tropical composite...still trying to figure out our 11th harmonic composite "I find that nteresting, cause natally he has Mars on 11 Virgo, and I have Jupiter on 11 Pisces, which is an opposition of our chartrulers (Aries intercepted in his 1st house)." That's weird (especially being the chart rulers) which is why I'm wondering if the 11th degree in the tropical composite would be as note-worthy as an 11th degree in the 11th harmonic.
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 11:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Ceri, you're right about the orb. Tgem, sorry, I overlooked you were comparing 11th with natal, and not 11th harmonics between themselves.
Wait weren't we supposed to compare natals to 11th Harmonic right? Did I read that wrong? IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 11:41 AM
Does anyone have a link for a midpoint calculator? Can't find one for the life of me.. Just wanted to verify my math. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 12:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Wow I just had the idea to progress our 11th harmonic composite to the day of when I am going to see him as Artus.(complicated, even with Solar fire. lol) But Jeez, pr 11th Sun cojunct pr 11th DESC with only 27 minutes of arc, on 14 Cancer - Sirius.
probably I am taking it to far now though. lol
I feel the need to acquire that program... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: I feel the need to acquire that program...
Don`?t. It`s much too expensive. Well, it`s okay that I have it, but I shouldn´tz have spent so much money on a computer program. lol IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Wait weren't we supposed to compare natals to 11th Harmonic right? Did I read that wrong?
Yes, and harmonics with harmonics, and then a harmonics composite. The more you compare, the more you find patterns and repetitive themes, which is AMAZING  IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 01:07 PM
Yeah totally...I'm pretty amazed at the soulmate pairings I found especially..I really am curious what I find in our 11th composite. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1928 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 01:16 PM
Ok help me out...do the orbs for the asteroids in harmonics have to be just as tight (0-3 degrees) as in other charts or can you expand the orbs to like 6 and 7 degrees too? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 03:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Ok help me out...do the orbs for the asteroids in harmonics have to be just as tight (0-3 degrees) as in other charts or can you expand the orbs to like 6 and 7 degrees too?
Depends what you are using them for. If you want to know if a certain aspect is present in your natal, you can use an orb of 11 degrees, but ONLY for conjunctions (other aspects are virtually meaningless - well almost). These would indicate that there is an exact 11th harmonic aspect in our natal. But that is not what we are doing here. As soon was we use the harmonic as a symbolic chart the same tight orb apply. But you can also look for patterns and other exact aspects.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 03:34 PM
Leeloo,I started with no 2 from your priority list, and looked up the conjunctions in the 11th harmonic synastry. my planets first: DESC conjunct Venus 2.59 IC conjunct Sun 0.33 IC conjunct pluto 0.45 SN conjunct Pluto 3.28 Sun conjunct SN 0.05 (SN conjunct Sun 4.46) Sun conjunct Uranus 2.09 Moon conjunct IC 0.41 Venus conjunct Avx 4.00 Uranus conjunct APHRODITE 2.59 Uranus conjunct VX 3.34 DESTINN conjunct APHRODITE 1.37 ALMA conjunct Moon 0.59 ALMA conjunct Chiron 1.30 JUNO conjunct KARMA 0.22 JUNO conjunct JUNO 2.24 AMOR conjunct SAturn 0.20 AMOR conjunct UNION 0.43 APHRODITE conjunct Jupiter 1.26 EROS conjunct Saturn 1.54 EROS conjunct UNION 3.17 PSYCHE conjunct Jupiter 2.36 VX conjunct Saturn 3.29 Vx conjunct UNION 3.06 IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 03:42 PM
The composite has these conjunctions ASC conjunct Mars 2.41 IC conjunct PSYCHE 1.23 MC conjunct Vertex 1°54
SN conjunct Sun 2.26 NN conjunct AMOR 1.56 SN conjunct VALENTINE 0.47 SN conjunct CUPIDO 0.10 Sun conjunct VALENTINE 1.39 Sun conjunct CUPIDO 2.16 VALENTINE conjunct CUPIDO 0.37 Uranus conjunct CERES 0.28 Chiron conjunct UNION 1.48 BTW I used these asteroids: Chiron, Pholus, Karma, DEstinn, Alma, Union, Ceres, Juno, Vesta, Amor, Valentine, Aphrodite, Cupido, Eros and Psyche IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 03:52 PM
Ceri,To me, these results are outstanding: (lots of karmic soulmate markers) DESC conjunct Venus 2.59 IC conjunct Sun 0.33 IC conjunct pluto 0.45 SN conjunct Pluto 3.28 Sun conjunct SN 0.05 (SN conjunct Sun 4.46) Sun conjunct Uranus 2.09 Moon conjunct IC 0.41 Venus conjunct Avx 4.00 Uranus conjunct APHRODITE 2.59 Uranus conjunct VX 3.34 DESTINN conjunct APHRODITE 1.37 ALMA conjunct Moon 0.59 ALMA conjunct Chiron 1.30 JUNO conjunct KARMA 0.22 JUNO conjunct JUNO 2.24 AMOR conjunct SAturn 0.20 AMOR conjunct UNION 0.43 APHRODITE conjunct Jupiter 1.26 EROS conjunct Saturn 1.54 EROS conjunct UNION 3.17 PSYCHE conjunct Jupiter 2.36 VX conjunct Saturn 3.29 Vx conjunct UNION 3.06 In the composite: ASC conjunct Mars 2.41 IC conjunct PSYCHE 1.23 MC conjunct Vertex 1°54 SN conjunct Sun 2.26 NN conjunct AMOR 1.56 SN conjunct VALENTINE 0.47 SN conjunct CUPIDO 0.10 Sun conjunct VALENTINE 1.39 Sun conjunct CUPIDO 2.16 VALENTINE conjunct CUPIDO 0.37 Uranus conjunct CERES 0.28 Chiron conjunct UNION 1.48 The angles and nodes are HEAVILY aspected wow You should get this one  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 04, 2014 03:08 PM
I finally managed to check for the patterns in the 11th harmonic synastry. I focused on trine based ones (GT, Kite, Star of David) and square based ones (T-square, Grand Square). TRINE-based
STAR of DAVID ---------------- my Sun 15.17 Taurus his SN 15.12 Taurus (his Uranus 17.26 Taurus) my URanus 14.56 Virgo (his APHRODITE 17.56 Virgo) his PHOLUS 13.51 Capricorn my PHOLUS 14.30 Cancer my VESTA 15.05 Cancer his NN 15.12 Scorpio his Mercury 13.12 Scorpio his Neptune 15.03 Pisces so involving my Sun, Uranus, PHOLUS and VESTA his Nodes, PHOLUS, Neptune and Mercury, possibly APHRODITE Grand trines ------------
1a) my Saturn 6.31 Cancer my JUNO 6.39 Scorpio his KARMA 6.17 Scorpio his JUNO 4.15 Scorpio his PSYCHE 7.24 Pisces 1b) my VALENTINE 2.59 Cancer his Mars 2.05 Pisces his JUNO 4.15 Scorpio 1c)
my CUPIDO 9.01 Cancer his KARMA 6.17 Scorpio his PSYCHE 7.24 Pisces involving
my Saturn, JUNO, VALENTINE, CUPIDO his KARMA, JUNO, Mars, PSYCHE II. square based (1) my NN 21.47 Scorpio my SN 21.47 Taurus my AMOR 23.38 Leo my EROS 20.54 Leo his Saturn 23.48 Leo his UNION 24.11 Leo my APHRODITE 23.12 Aquarius my PSYCHE 24.22 Aquarius his Jupiter 21.26 Aquarius my Nodes, AMOR, EROS, APHRODITE, PSYCHE his Saturn, UNION, Jupiter
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my IC 24.40 Taurus his Sun 26.33 Taurus his Pluto 25.15 Taurus my MC 24.40 Scorpio my PSYCHE 24.22 Aquarius my APHRODITE 23.12 Aquarius my AMOR 23.28 Leo his Saturn 23.48 Leo his UNION 24.11 Leo my MC-IC, PSYCHE, APHRODITE; AMOR his Sun, Pluto, Saturn, UNION
(3) my Moon 8.12 Sag his IC 8.53 Sag his DESTINN 7.11 Sag
his MC 8.53 Gemini my Venus 7.23 Virgo his PSYCHE 7.24 Pisces my Moon and Venus his IC-MC, DESTINN and PSYCHE
-------------------------- my Uranus 14.57 Virgo my DESTINN 16.19 Virgo his APHRODITE 17.56 Virgo
my ALMA 14.04 Gemini his Moon 15.03 Gemini his Chiron 15.34 Gemini his Neptune 15.03 Pisces my Uranus, DESTINN, ALMA his Neptune, Moon, Chiron, APHRODITE
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my PHOLUS 14.30 Cancer my VESTA 15.05 Cancer
his PHOLUS 13.51 Cap his Venus 15.09 Aries my ASC 17.14 Libra my PHOLUS, VESTA and ASC his PHOLUS and Venus
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my JUNO 6.39 Scorpio his JUNO 4.15 Scorpio his KARMA 6.17 Scorpio his ASC 5.28 Aquarius his ALMA 6.04 Aquarius his DESC 5.28 Leo my JUNO his JUNO; KARMA, ALMA and ASC-DESC
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14400 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 04, 2014 03:38 PM
dominant pattern in the composite is another Star of David:NN 18.29 Scorpio AMOR 16.33 Scorpio SN 18.29 Taurus Sun 20.55 Taurus VALENTINE 19.16 Taurus CUPIDO 18.39 Taurus Uranus 16.12 Cancer CERES 16.40 Cancer Neptune 17.14 Capricorn Pluto 17.34 Pisces KARMA 16.13 Virgo --------------------------------- There is also a KITE with a basic fire Grand trine ASC 11.48 Sagittarius
ALMA 10.04. Aries EROS 11.21 Leo opposite Mercury 9.22 Aquarius IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 06:09 PM
Ceri, it's like a perfect combination of love markers (Eros, Juno, Amor, Cupid, Union, Valentine, Aphrodite, Vesta etc.) soul markers (Alma, Psyche, Vesta) and karmic markers (angles, nodes, karma, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, Pholus). Don't you think? I'm beginning to include Pholus in the karmic markers. It has a Uranian flavor and is a recurrent theme in my comparisons.BTW, what is Aphrodite for you? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 09, 2014 04:02 PM
I wanted to share this, for all those who experience dreams, visions, OOB and other "paranormal" experiences related to twinflames.11th harmonics corresponds with Alpha brainwave state (about 8-12 Hz) connected, among other things, with REM sleep and the awakening of the third eye. Alpha Brain Waves (8 to 12 cycles per second) This brain wave indicates a relaxed state of mind.. State of relaxed alertness, good for inspiration and learning facts fast. A meditative mind. In this state tap into internal “antenna” like qualities. Visions, powerful ideas, mindless creation of the incredible. Internal feeling & sensations. Wikipedia:
Some researchers posit that there are at least three forms of alpha waves, which may all have different functions in the wake-sleep cycle. Alpha waves are present at different stages of the wake-sleep cycle. The most widely-researched is during the relaxed mental state, where the subject is at rest with eyes closed, but is not tired or asleep. This alpha activity is centered in the occipital lobe, and is presumed to originate there, although there has been recent speculation that it instead has a thalamic origin.[6] This wave begins appearing at around four months, and is initially a frequency of 4 waves per second. The mature alpha wave, at 10 waves per second, is firmly established by age 3.[7] The second occurrence of alpha wave activity is during REM sleep. As opposed to the awake form of alpha activity, this form is located in a frontal-central location in the brain. The purpose of alpha activity during REM sleep has yet to be fully understood. Currently, there are arguments that alpha patterns are a normal part of REM sleep, and for the notion that it indicates a semi-arousal period. It has been suggested that this alpha activity is inversely related to REM sleep pressure. The third occurrence of alpha wave activity is the alpha-delta or slow-wave (SWS) state. This activity spreads across the brain in an anterior-posterior gradient.[8] It has long been believed that alpha waves indicate a wakeful period during sleep. This has been attributed to studies where subjects report non-refreshing sleep and have EEG records reporting high levels of alpha intrusion into sleep. This occurrence is known as alpha wave intrusion.[9] However, it is possible that these explanations may be misleading, as they only focus on alpha waves being generated from the occipital lobe. IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted April 26, 2014 08:25 PM
Very interesting thread! I just looked at 11th harmonics today. I'm totally new to all of this but saw some amazing coincidences between natal & 11th in synastry aspect. My first name in his natal is at 11 aqua My first name in my 11th harmonic is at...11 aqua! His last name in my 11th harmonic- 11 gem! In natal synastry we have pluto conjunct venus less then 1 orb . I'm 10 virgo venus & he's 11 virgo pluto My 11th harmonic Juno is exact conjunct his natal NN My 11th harmonic sun conjunct his natal sun (and my name!) My 11th harmonic boda conjunct his natal venus exact. 22 sag! 11 + 11 It goes on & on....not together tho. Twin flames? Lots of elevens going on here!  Fun thread!
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4771 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 27, 2014 06:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by IntuitiveJ: Very interesting thread! I just looked at 11th harmonics today. I'm totally new to all of this but saw some amazing coincidences between natal & 11th in synastry aspect. My first name in his natal is at 11 aqua My first name in my 11th harmonic is at...11 aqua! His last name in my 11th harmonic- 11 gem! In natal synastry we have pluto conjunct venus less then 1 orb . I'm 10 virgo venus & he's 11 virgo pluto My 11th harmonic Juno is exact conjunct his natal NN My 11th harmonic sun conjunct his natal sun (and my name!) My 11th harmonic boda conjunct his natal venus exact. 22 sag! 11 + 11 It goes on & on....not together tho. Twin flames? Lots of elevens going on here!  Fun thread!
Interesting aspects, Intuitive, so very fit. IP: Logged |