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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 30, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:

I wish I had his chart right now

Soon ! But I have been getting ideas.
I think he is a Capricorn sun, virgo ASC.
I asked what he looked like and for some reason Adam Sandler came to mind. I asked my daughter because she saw him in her dream and she said Adam without me even saying anything. But my guy has blue eyes.
I have tried to find a picture of someone close to no avail.

But it may show up in my harmonics as to his placements ? I believe I had strong Capricorn connection in 7th.


Yes, your 11th harmonics should tell something about him.

I mean about your twinflame

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posted April 30, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well in this case,t his is my twinflame chart.


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posted April 30, 2014 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see a Yod on the base of a Mercury-Saturn-sextile pointing to moon, which I find interesting as this Moon is closely conjoined with my natal Mars-ASC-Neptune-NN-conjunction, and has proved to be a magnetic point for me.


Of course I also notice the Grand trine of Pluto-Venus-Mercury.
With the 11th Pluto falling onto my natal Venus (and Isis-Osiris-conjunction).


the 11th harmonic DESC - unfotunately?- is conjunct my natal Chiron on 20 Aries - so I suppose I have to work through some wounds there.
Interestingly 11th harmonic ASC is exactly trine my Moon, and 11th harmnonic Moon is conjunct my natal ASC by on degree.

I also see there is an EROS-PSYCHE-opposition, well actually even APHRODITE and AMOR are part of it (and Jupiter, very unsurprisingly).
The midpoint of this opposition falls onto the nodal axis exactly.

comparing to my natal I find it interesting that my natal PSYCHE is on 24 Aquarius, so the Eros-Psyche is bridging the natal sphere as well.
the 11th NN is exactly conjunct my natal 12th house cusp.
It seems to be quite a karmic placement.

as for the relationship profile of my 11th harmonic chart (equal houses):

- DESC in Aries, with Mars in Virgo in 12th
- Mercury and Sun in Taurus still in 7th house, though Sun is already conjunct 8th house cusp.
(This is interesting, as my natal 5th house is in Taurus)


- 5th house in - GAWd, not saying it Leeloo, not saying it, okay I will - 5th house in Aquarius
- URanus in Virgo at the end of the 11th house (which of course fits to the Aqua-5th house)
- Uranus making a Grand trine with Pluto in Cappy in 3rd, and very closely with Sun in Taurus in 7th
- also the EROS/AMOR-PSYCHE/APHRODITE-opposition overlays 11th and 5th house, Leo and Aquarius


- 8th house cusp in Taurus, with Venus in Virgo in 11th house
- Venus conjuncts Jupiter, and a bit more widely Uranus, trine Pluto, trine MErcury, square Moon

- the Venus-Mercury-trine is interesting also because they are in mutual reception and dispositing each other (Mercury in Taurus in 7th; Venus in Virgo in 11th)

Mercury ruling 9th and 12th house, Venus ruling 1st and 8th house, (Pluto ruling 2nd and Uranus ruling 5th)

as for soulmate pairings in my 11th harmonic chart:

° EROS/AMOR opposite PSYCHE

° JUNO sextile JUPITER

° PARVATI on 15 Libra conjunct ASC on 17 Libra, trine SIVA on 14 Aquarius
and even though it is a bit wide, it fits the theme: KAALI on 20 Gemini

°ISIS on 4 Libra - OSIRIS on 26 Virgo, unlike in natal NOT conjunct, however they are on each other`s antiscion degree (orb: 17 minutes)


° ARIADNE sextile BACCHUS exact

° ADONIS conjunct ISHTAR by 2 degrees (and near KARMA)

° HORUS opposite HATHOR by one degree (also configured with KARMA)

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posted April 30, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
well in this case,t his is my twinflame chart.


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Your twinflame chart is so beautiful, Ceri, you don't need no twinflame

I'd say his Sun would be in the last degrees of Sag/Gem (form cross with Mars/POF) or Leo/Aqua (where you have that major stellium of 3 opp stellium of 3), his Venus in the last degrees of Scorpio. Moon on Libra/Aries axis (not sure about that) and probably his ASC/DSC cutting through the Moon Yod, ruler of the Kite. I don't think he has major Cancer/Capricorn, more like something on Aries/Libra axis.

Of course, ASC/DSC could be interchanged with Sun.

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posted April 30, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:


- 5th house in - GAWd, not saying it Leeloo, not saying it, okay I will - 5th house in Aquarius
- URanus in Virgo at the end of the 11th house (which of course fits to the Aqua-5th house)
- Uranus making a Grand trine with Pluto in Cappy in 3rd, and very closely with Sun in Taurus in 7th
- also the EROS/AMOR-PSYCHE/APHRODITE-opposition overlays 11th and 5th house, Leo and Aquarius



I was writing something along the same lines at the same time. With little baby steps, Ceri, you have to let Mr Aqua slowly enter your universe

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posted April 30, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahem, excuse me, what is this pattern called?
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posted April 30, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grand Cross?

What do you mean, Cappy?
And what is this beauty?
Sorry, your 11th harmonics duh

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posted April 30, 2014 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duh. I'm not into the twinflame thing but I checked it out of curiosity. So, 4 connected t-squares are a grand cross?

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posted April 30, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Your twinflame chart is so beautiful, Ceri,"
Thank you.


"I'd say his Sun would be in the last degrees of Sag/Gem (form cross with Mars/POF)"
I actually have a weak spot for Sagittarians, late in the sign, (the other two signs that always always always get under my skin are Aries: moth to flame, at least used to be, and Capricorn).

Interestingly Mr Sag`s Sun-Moon-MC falls from 27-28 Sagittarius. And since our Suns are conjunct, the compospite Sun is at 27 Sag as well, so there is of course this strong draw for me.


" or Leo/Aqua (where you have that major stellium of 3 opp stellium of 3)
Yes, you would think so. But honestly neither Aquas nor Leos are doing it for me (though I notice that Aquarius-men seem to like me quite a bit, and Sags, usually. lol).

However, this Leo/Aqua actually seems to be a theme for me in composite/Davison. I do not believe it is a coincidence that in mr Sags and my composite the ASC is on 1 Aquarius, and in Mr Law`s and my Davison chart it is on 1 Leo. I know it is not near the degrees we were looking fvor though. lol

Anyway we know that both men left kinda an impression on me. Mr law`s AMOR is on 23 Aquarius and Mr Sag`s PSYCHE is on 25 Aquarius. Not major planets, I know, but I find it interesting nevertheless.
I mean something must have activated the internal pull for me.


"his Venus in the last degrees of Scorpio. "
Why that?
Hmm, I wouldn`t exclude it, especially with my natal Valentine on 27 Scorpio as well, but usually I am all for earth Venus. And then yes, secondary Venus in Scorpio and occasionally in Pisces. Venus in Sag is the only masculine Venus-placement I really can stand. (in a man).


"oon on Libra/Aries axis (not sure about that)"
LOL
Yes, I once mentioned that before, how for a certain time every gu`s I felt even remotely drawn to would have Moon in Aries or Libra.


" and probably his ASC/DSC cutting through the Moon Yod, ruler of the Kite."
yes, my 11th Moon, natal nodal axis, natal Mars, natal ASC-DESC MUST be activated.
I am usually not going for Gemini ASC though. maybe because my natal DESC-ruler is in Sagittarius, I prefer Sag.


" I don't think he has major Cancer/Capricorn,"
Cancer, no, really not.
Capricorn, yes. Has to be there, even though it has to be balanced by Aries-Sagittarius-placements.
And cappy not as an ASC-DESC, for that I am all for mutable, and especially Sag or Pisces.


" more like something on Aries/Libra axis."
Yes. Has to be.

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posted April 30, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a chart that goes very well with your Union and your other charts, I like that.

It's gonna take some time till you meet your twinflame, Cappy. An independent woman: cardinal cross involving Sun/Venus/Saturn/Uranus, plus Saturn conjunct Psyche. I wonder if Pallas or maybe Lilith is somehow involved with this cross. But I do see an important man from a faraway land with whom you form a wonderful soul union: Mars/vertex trine NN/Mercury quincunx Neptune/Union.

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posted April 30, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm gonna meet my twinflame...I almost got touched If I'm to be with someone it'll most likely be a foreigner, note it for the future

BML is at 20 Scorpio and Pallas is at 5 Leo.
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posted April 30, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is funny, I was taking a peek at Mr Law`s and Mr Sags 11th harmonic chart ,and both have a Yod, too. Does everyone has this? lol

For Mr Law it is:

Uranus (9 Gem) sextile Moon(7Leo)
quinkunx Jupiter (8 Cap) and NN (5 Cap.


Mr Sag`s Yod is:

Venus (15 Aries) sextile Moon (15 Gemini)/Chiron (15 Gem)/ MC (13 Gem)
quinkunx Mercury (13 Scorpio) and NN (15 Scorpio)

oh and his Mercury/NN opposes Uranus (17 Taurus)

Oh also found it interesting, In Mr Law`s 11th harmonic chart, he also has a Grand Trine:


Pluto (18 Scorpio) trine Mercury (16 Pisces) trine Mars (19 Cancer)/ Aphrodite (18 Cancer) Saturn 20 Cancer).


So the mirroring our charts do natally (which is the reason I find checking his chart so fascinating, there is so often a mirror effect. lol), seem to also happen in 11th harmonic.


We both have a Grand trine involving Pluto and Mercury, just for him the third planet is Mars, and for me it is Venus.

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posted April 30, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"his Venus in the last degrees of Scorpio. "
Why that?
Hmm, I wouldn`t exclude it, especially with my natal Valentine on 27 Scorpio as well, but usually I am all for earth Venus. And then yes, secondary Venus in Scorpio and occasionally in Pisces. Venus in Sag is the only masculine Venus-placement I really can stand. (in a man).

because I believe in an ideal superposition natal/11th harmonics, Venus should be on an angle in aspect with the other's Mars, which should preferably be a Venus/Mars DW; Sun, Moon should also be on angles or interconnected.

of course, all these could be interchanged with major configurations, so compelling that the above connections don't matter anymore. still, I believe you must have some sun moon venus on angles.

in your configuration, a venus there would connect angle, node, mars. I think it can't be anywhere else , maybe on the other side. but I think in the best situation, it would be on a proactive angle, rather than a retroactive one.

We both have a Grand trine involving Pluto and Mercury, just for him the third planet is Mars, and for me it is Venus.

This. very Yin/Yang.

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posted April 30, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm gonna meet my twinflame...I almost got touched If I'm to be with someone it'll most likely be a foreigner, note it for the future

BML is at 20 Scorpio and Pallas is at 5 Leo.


what about asteroid Lilith?

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posted April 30, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]"his Venus in the last degrees of Scorpio. "
Why that?
Hmm, I wouldn`t exclude it, especially with my natal Valentine on 27 Scorpio as well, but usually I am all for earth Venus. And then yes, secondary Venus in Scorpio and occasionally in Pisces. Venus in Sag is the only masculine Venus-placement I really can stand. (in a man).

because I believe in an ideal superposition natal/11th harmonics, Venus should be on an angle in aspect with the other's Mars, which should preferably be a Venus/Mars DW; Sun, Moon should also be on angles or interconnected.

of course, all these could be interchanged with major configurations, so compelling that the above connections don't matter anymore. still, I believe you must have some sun moon venus on angles.

in your configuration, a venus there would connect angle, node, mars. I think it can't be anywhere else , maybe on the other side. but I think in the best situation, it would be on a proactive angle, rather than a retroactive one.

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Yes, I agree with this reasoning, with one exception. I thnk retroactive angles are perfectly fine and indeed may even be more receptive, DESC is a Venus-point after all, IC is a Moon-point.
However, the problem with these could be that there might be not all that much action triggered, though the feelings are there.


Personally I also have found the midpoints of the angles to be very effective.

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posted April 30, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I found my twinflame!

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posted April 30, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
what about asteroid Lilith?

19 Aquarius

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posted April 30, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I agree with this reasoning, with one exception. I thnk retroactive angles are perfectly fine and indeed may even be more receptive, DESC is a Venus-point after all, IC is a Moon-point.
However, the problem with these could be that there might be not all that much action triggered, though the feelings are there.


Personally I also have found the midpoints of the angles to be very effective.



You are right, they are strongly felt and show connections with karma. I was thinking more on the lines of MC/NN showing undoubted manifestation in this life, accomplishment, as pointing to the final meeting. Of course, we are talking here about the ideal,the final situation.

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posted April 30, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
19 Aquarius


You see? there you havee it! Connected to every point of the Cross.

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posted April 30, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I think I found my twinflame!


Not bad. Who's the lucky bast**d?

Hope it's not Justin, he's already bald

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posted April 30, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, it looks like a Fish, his mouth Venus/Neptune. Do you see that? Kinda cute, actually.

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posted April 30, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Cevans, silly And he even has some fish in him hehe.

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posted April 30, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I like your interlinked Yods in your 11th, they point to a meeting in relation to finding your twinflame. Venus/Neptune/Sun/Moon - integration of anima/animus, of love/higher love.

I am not sure it is him though although your aspects are beautiful. Moon/IC might explain for that wounded heart you feel, and the position of his Chiron in 11th comparison, probably Chiron in composite is prominent too.



Composite Chiron conjuncts Jupiter exact and they are the apex of a yod with Saturn conjunct Pluto less than one degree sextile Neptune at its base. All the aspects of that yod are less than one degree. And the Jupiter Chiron conjunction is conjunct my natal Moon... I'd say it's prominant enough
Like I said, I don't know if he's my tf, I definitely believed it for a while, but whatever he is, he's part of my soul. The pain being separated from him even as just his friend is heart wrenching. I usually just try my hardest to not think about him, but then he shows up where I am or a song will play that he sang to me...it isn't fair or easy to convince myself that what we've come to is right for either of us, but it is what it is...

My tf chart

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posted April 30, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 30, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any thought about my TF chart?

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