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Topic: 11th harmonics and Twinflames
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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 09:04 AM
  
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Originally posted by tgem:
Alright Peeps, I hope you're sitting down for this:
The contra-antiscia of my moon is 27 Cap...Cusp's sun falls on 27 Cap!The contra-antiscia of Cusp's sun is 3 Gem...my moon falls on 3 Gem!
What to say... 
This is more than strong.
And that Moon/Jupiter DW is a wonderful aspect to have.
EDIT: actually, it's not a DW, my mistake. it's his Moon your Jupiter, but still it's a wonderful aspect to have.
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tgem
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posted May 10, 2014 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What to say...
This is more than strong.
And that Moon/Jupiter DW is a wonderful aspect to have.
...doing a little Dance 🎶🎶🎶 IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Great thread guys!  Any thoughts on these 11th harmonic charts: Mine:
 His:
You have many strong connections between these two charts, including with Sun/Moon. You have both your Sun and Moon in critical degrees, your Moon on Aries point. Are you close in age?
What are the major connections in 11th harmonics compared to natal? (Sun, Moon, Venus, angles, Mars etc.)
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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by tgem:
...doing a little Dance 🎶🎶🎶
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IntuitiveJ
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posted May 10, 2014 02:15 PM
I've really enjoyed reading this thread.
I posted some of our "11" aspects earlier but looking at 11th to natals now is really cool. Only looked at conjunctions so far His 11th Proserpina conjunct my natal pluto exact
His 11th sun conjunct my natal venus
His 11th mercury conjunct my natal boda
His 11th saturn conjunct my natal uranus (is this bad?!)
His 11th chiron conjunct my natal sun, mercury & Dsc
His 11th eros conjunct my natal lust My 11th sun conjunct his natal sun & my Asc
My 11th jupiter conjunct his natal Cupid
My 11th boda conjunct his natal venus exact
My 11th vertex conjunct his boda/angel
My 11th chiron conjunct his natal sun exact (double whammy)
My 11th pholus conjunct his natal last name
My 11th uranus conjunct his natal karma exact
My 11th aphrodite conjunct his natal amor Lots of 11th to 11th aspects too. I haven't quite figured out exactly what all this means yet but it's fun to look at
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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 02:32 PM
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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
I've really enjoyed reading this thread.
I posted some of our "11" aspects earlier but looking at 11th to natals now is really cool. Only looked at conjunctions so far His 11th Proserpina conjunct my natal pluto exact
His 11th sun conjunct my natal venus
His 11th mercury conjunct my natal boda
His 11th saturn conjunct my natal uranus (is this bad?!)
His 11th chiron conjunct my natal sun, mercury & Dsc
His 11th eros conjunct my natal lust My 11th sun conjunct his natal sun & my Asc
My 11th jupiter conjunct his natal Cupid
My 11th boda conjunct his natal venus exact
My 11th vertex conjunct his boda/angel
My 11th chiron conjunct his natal sun exact (double whammy)
My 11th pholus conjunct his natal last name
My 11th uranus conjunct his natal karma exact
My 11th aphrodite conjunct his natal amor Lots of 11th to 11th aspects too. I haven't quite figured out exactly what all this means yet but it's fun to look at
They look good ...it looks like a Chirotic connection. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 02:36 PM
I've reread the thread and so far it looks like most people posting their comparisons here found something major on degree 11, either in their 11th harmonics or in the comparisons/composite So the 11th degree of each sign is a possible marker of twinflames too. And as it happens, 11th house or Aquarius/Uranus are also present in either natals, 11th harmonics, comparisons or composite. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 10, 2014 03:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
Alright Peeps, I hope you're sitting down for this:
The contra-antiscia of my moon is 27 Cap...Cusp's sun falls on 27 Cap!The contra-antiscia of Cusp's sun is 3 Gem...my moon falls on 3 Gem!
This is actually the same aspect, if your Moon is on the antiscion of his Sun, then of course his Sun is also on the antision of your Moon. However a VERY strong, though subtle connection. I am a huge fan of antiscia/ contrascia.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018644.html
Antiscia/ conrascia often also coincide with parallels/ contraparallels, at least in the case of the Sun.
BTW Patrick`s Venus is on the antiscion of my Mars, which I certainly find interesting (it is also septile, so it seems to be doubly emphasized in a 7th harmonic kind of way).
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IntuitiveJ
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posted May 10, 2014 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
They look good ...it looks like a Chirotic connection.
Thank u
Do you think this means we can heal each other's wounds?
If only he would stop running....
I don't know much about chiron!! IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted May 10, 2014 03:29 PM
Just one more tidbit...
Each of us are born on the 29th me July, him January.. 9+2 is 11...and opposite months.
And our composite Juno is 22 leo
11 + 11. It's actually funny!IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 10, 2014 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I've reread the thread and so far it looks like most people posting their comparisons here found something major on degree 11, either in their 11th harmonics or in the comparisons/composite So the 11th degree of each sign is a possible marker of twinflames too. And as it happens, 11th house or Aquarius/Uranus are also present in either natals, 11th harmonics, comparisons or composite.
I notice how Patricks Mars is on 11 Virgo, opposing my Jupiter on 11 Pisces, and that is definitely related to one of the two strongest "complexes" in our synastry.
Some emphasis on 11th house in composite, with Sun, Mercury, Neptune, Sappho, Lilith there (in Sag).
Aquarius-ASC. Whatever the 11th really means, it seems to be important in our chart. Helio composite does have Jupiter on 11 Gemini and Persephone on 11 Leo. However, what struck me about this is how often the degree `13`pops up. Venus: 13 Aquarius
Destinn: 13 Leo
Pluto: 13 Libra
Eris, Aura: 13 Aries Angel, Valentine: 13 Scorpio
Psyche: 13 Pisces
Whatever the degree `13`means, it seems significant for us.
Davison has ASC on 13 Capricorn and Venus on 11 Taurus (conj. Mars, but not on 11 degree)
LOL interestingly my 7th harmonic chart has NN on 11 Aquarius.
and in his 7th harmonic chart PHOLUS is on 11 Aquarius. 
(and Jupiter on 11 Taurus)
my 7th is quite.... interesting. Our 11th harmonic composite (thank solar fire for that calculation! lol) has Moon on 11 Virgo. lol
(right on his natal Mars-Jupiter and opposing my Jupiter)
The 7th harmonic composite has
ASC on 11 Aquarius (conj. Jupiter on 14 Aqua)
Mars on 11 Pisces - this axis AGAIN Moon doesn`t quite make the cut, ending up on 10.11 Gemini. lol IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Thank u
Do you think this means we can heal each other's wounds?
If only he would stop running....
You're welcome! yes, healing and awakening. Maybe you should trip him  Keep coming with those elevens, folks! LOL IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 03:52 PM
Wow, Ceri, with those 11...you're like the mascot of the whole twinflame sport! 13 is a mystical one too. So far I've noticed 7 as a repetitive theme in our charts. I guess all synastries have a "lucky" number, so to speak, like a numerological lucky charm. But 11 and twinflames is definitely the deal! IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted May 10, 2014 04:03 PM
Is there an infinite number of harmonic charts? I could do 50th harmonic O_o------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 10, 2014 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Is there an infinite number of harmonic charts? I could do 50th harmonic O_o
More like 32 like in music IP: Logged |
tgem
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posted May 10, 2014 05:27 PM
Tropical composite on degree 11: ASC, Isis
On degree 22: sun, Cupido
Our Helio composite: on degree 11
Juno,( mercury, Uranus, Ceres all conjunct in Scorpio)On degree 22:
Earth/moon my name asteroid and jupiter Draco:
On degree 11: venus
ASC in Aquarius Actually the numbers I find THE MOST often in our natals/composites are the 0 or 29th degree..we have ALOT of those! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 10, 2014 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
More like 32 like in music
Actually yes, there is an infinite number. But what use to do them all? They get very very very subtle after 12th harmonic in my opinion. IP: Logged |
tgem
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posted May 10, 2014 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
This is actually the same aspect, if your Moon is on the antiscion of his Sun, then of course his Sun is also on the antision of your Moon.However a VERY strong, though subtle connection. I am a huge fan of antiscia/ contrascia.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018644.html
Antiscia/ conrascia often also coincide with parallels/ contraparallels, at least in the case of the Sun.
BTW Patrick`s Venus is on the antiscion of my Mars, which I certainly find interesting (it is also septile, so it seems to be doubly emphasized in a 7th harmonic kind of way).
Yes, I realize I got a little over-excited not noticing it was the same aspect but 11 connections between us at an exact to 1 degree orb pretty significant. We also have 13 oppositions in our synastry ( not including asteroids) 4 of which are opposite and contra-parallel. Yes, Ceri the venus/mars is VERY nice!!! IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted May 10, 2014 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You have many strong connections between these two charts, including with Sun/Moon. You have both your Sun and Moon in critical degrees, your Moon on Aries point. Are you close in age?What are the major connections in 11th harmonics compared to natal? (Sun, Moon, Venus, angles, Mars etc.)
Thanks for taking a look LeeLoo We have an exact 5-year age difference, he's older.
Not sure if that would be considered a close or a wide age-gap though, lol. Here's our 11th harmonic-natal synastry:
My 11th harmonic ~ His natal
My IC conjunct his Spirit 0°
My Desc conjunct his Eros/Osiris 0°-2°
My Moon opposite his Juno 1°
My Mars opposite his Venus 0°
My Uranus opposite his Sun/Asc 1°
My NN conjunct his Desc 4°
My SN conjunct his Sun-Moon midpoint 0°
My Chiron opposite his Juno 0°
My Vertex conjunct his (my Name-asteroid)/Briede/Amor 0°-1°
My Vertex opposite his Pluto 3°
My P. of Fortune opposite Sun/Asc 0°
My Juno conjunct his Sun/Asc 0°
My Aphrodite conjunct his Sun/Asc 2°
My Ceres conjunct his Sun/Asc 3°
My Amor conjunct his Pluto 2°
My Amor opposite his (my name-asteroid)/Amor/Briede 0°
My Psyche opposite his Psyche 2°
My Valentine opposite his Isis/True BML 2-3°
My Alma conjunct his Chiron 0° ---x--- His 11th harmonic ~ My natal His Desc conjunct my Sun-Moon mp/Psyche 0°-1°
His Sun opposite my Sun-Moon mp/Psyche 0°-2
His Venus opposite my Name-asteroid 2°
His Mars conjunct my NN/Isis 2°-3°
His Jupiter opposite my Sun 3°
His Saturn conjunct my Mercury/Union 2-3°
His Neptune opposite my Groom 1°
His Pluto conjunct my Uranus/Neptune 0°-1°
His Vertex conjunct my Juno 0°
His NN conjunct Osiris 1°
His SN conjunct my Chiron/Briede/Valentine 0°-1°
His Pallas conjunct my Sun 1°
His Juno conjunct my Venus/Kaali 0°
His Vesta conjunct my Moon 3°
His Isis conjunct my Anti-Vertex/Angel 1°-2°
His Isis opposite my Destinn 2°
His Eros conjunct my Pluto/Alma 1°
His Psyche conjunct my Asc 0°
His Amor conjunct my Asc 4°
His Aphrodite conjunct my Neptune 3°
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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted May 10, 2014 08:11 PM
Btw, I just noticed that we have a exact NN-SN conjunction between our 11th harmonics, which conjuncts his natal Sun/Moon mp exact and my natal Chiron exact. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted May 11, 2014 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Btw, I just noticed that we have a exact NN-SN conjunction between our 11th harmonics, which conjuncts his natal Sun/Moon mp exact and my natal Chiron exact.
Very karmic and Chirotic, IMO. IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted May 12, 2014 04:50 AM
So I was just messing around and decided to look at the 11 harmonic of my wedding day...Venus conjuncts my 11th Venus/Jupiter by 1° and my fiancé's 11th mars exactly.
Sun conjunct my 11th Moon by 1 minute and trine my fiancé's 11th Moon by 20 minutes..
Moon conjunct fiancé's 11th nn less than 1°
NN opp fiancé's 11th Moon 2° I'm too tired to really get into it tonight, especially on a phone everything is so little! But yeah, I thought it was kinda neat. Especially the placement of wedding chart's 11th harmonic sun. It forms a YOD with my 11th sun and Venus with Venus conjunct Jupiter at it's apex.
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tgem
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posted May 12, 2014 07:44 AM
"Planets in opposition between two charts are very important when we try to trigger the twin flame relationship. We have to be very careful because we don’t just want the planets to be in opposition but also in contra-parallel. Only when two planets are in opposition and in contra-parallel can we talk about the possibility of a twin flame relationship."Do you think the oppositions/contra-parallels should be considered in the composite as well, in regards to a TF relationship? Or do you think the synastry would be the main key?
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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 12, 2014 09:12 AM
Hi, tgem The synastry is always the main key to me, although usually synastry and composites are congruent. Sometimes a weak synastry has an apparently good composite, but it's a trap. Oppositions are very significant for twinflames, they bring long term fascination and complementarity. Where there is already a strong synastry in this respect, an opposition in the composite chart is like an axis of attraction. I think it is pretty significant being a contra-parallel as well, although the main pairs are to be seen in the synastry. IP: Logged |
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