posted April 01, 2014 04:40 PM            

I think you should also check your personal 11th harmonics chart to see if it has strong, significant aspects or patterns which might indicate a possible twinflame encounter in this life.

I'll get back with my own aspects.

EDIT:

Even if twinflame relationships are said to be very rare, I think every great love we encounter is at least a “spark” of our twin.
I think 11th harmonics might be very significant.
I would look for:

- clues in the individual 11th harmonics pointing to a possible twinflame encounter: Venus, Moon, love asteroids connected in pairs, Venus on the angles/NN axis. Connection between karmic astrobodies (Saturn, Pluto, Vertex, Karma, Pholus etc.) and the said love astrobodies. (Venus, Moon, Amor, Valentine, Union, Juno, Cupid, Eros)
- significant Alma and Psyche contacts

- In the comparison:

- Sun, Moon interconnected or connected with angles and love asteroids
- Venus aspected with angles and love/karmic astrobodies
- Love astrobodies connected with angles and karmic astrobodies
- Alma and Psyche contacts
- Planets on ASC/DSC, NN/SN

After that, for the real astro-freaks , a comparison can be made between the 11th harmonics and the natal to see if that specific person activates your 11th harmonics, your “twinflame” chart. This comparison might even be more important that the 11th harmonics synastry.

The rule is: the natal chart partner is the one who activates the 11th harmonics partner. So we check if our natal planets trigger the 11th harmonics aspects of the other.

posted April 01, 2014 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Following what we've discussed on the Twinflame thread about the significance of number 11 as the twinflame number and the 11th house as a marker for twinflame relationships, I want to suggest an 11th harmonics comparison between the two charts.

I think you should also check your personal 11th harmonics chart to see if it has strong, significant aspects or patterns which might indicate a possible twinflame encounter in this life.

I'll get back with my own aspects.

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posted April 01, 2014 05:04 PM            

MR Sag has a JUNO-KARMA conjunction in this chart, and my JUNO joins them. :laughing.
his Karma-my JUno both on 6 Scorpio.

Also his Venus on my DESC; my Moon on his IC. I didn`t have timne to look into depth though.

Oh and his one degree Sun-Pluto-conjunction on my IC. Conjunct my Sun, which is ALSO conjunct his Uraus. On my SN.

my Venus on his VX opposite his Mars.

posted April 01, 2014 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
My thoughts about a possible connection here have more to do with what's associated with the 11th house/Uranus/Aquarius, rather than just simply trying to make a connection because of the number 11 and its association with "TFs".

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Not only because of number 11, but also referring to the 11th house as a house of platonic, ideal, true companion love and the "twinflame" theme being Aquarian in nature.

posted April 01, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
what ever it might be

MR Sag has a JUNO-KARMA conjunction in this chart, and my JUNO joins them. :laughing.
his Karma-my JUno both on 6 Scorpio.

Also his Venus on my DESC; my Moon on his IC. I didn`t have timne to look into depth though.

Oh and his one degree Sun-Pluto-conjunction on my IC.

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posted April 02, 2014 09:31 AM            

He has SN @ Aqu 22' 25 conjunct Valentine I his 11th harmonic.

The 11th harmonic between Cusp and I is pretty significant:
My sun trine his Saturn (1.5)
Opposite his VTX (0)
Square his MC/IC (0)
My moon conjunct his Pluto (1.8)
My merc opposite his moon (0)
My venus conjunct his vesta (0)
My mars opposite his venus (1.8)
Square his Uranus (0)
My jupiter trine his Pallas (0)
My Saturn conjunct his NN (0)
My Uranus square his alma (0)
Square his ASC (0)
My neptune square his mars (0)
Trine his IC (1)
My SN conjunct his moon (2)
My chiron trine his Uranus (1)
Opposite his alma (0)
Conjunct his ASC (1.5)
My VTX square his Ceres (1)
My Juno trine his MC (1.5)
My alma trine his Juno (1.5)
My ASC trine his Saturn (0)
My MC trine his VTX (1.5)
My Valentine conjunct his karma (1.5)
Trine his Cupido (1.5)
My Amor opposite his venus (0)
My union trine his union (2)
My Cupido opposite his alma (0)
Conjunct his ASC (1.5)
My eros Square his Cupido (2)
My psyche trine his vesta (0)

As far as his asteroids really quick:
His Amor conjunct my anti-VTX (1.8)
His karma opposite my sun (2)
Conjunct my Pluto (2)
Trine my DSC (1)
Conjunct my MC (0)
His union trine my mercury (0)
Trine my NN (2)
His Cupido trine my Pluto (1)
Square my VTX (1)
His eros square my Saturn (1)
Square my jupiter (2)
His psyche square my Uranus (0)
Conjunct my Chiron (0)
His ASC conjunct my Cupido (1.5)

For soulmate pairings:
In my 11th I have Siva trine Kaali @ 1.5
And Siva semi-sextile Parvati very wide at 1.5

In his 11th he has Pluto opposite Proserpina @ 2

posted April 02, 2014 10:37 AM            

reversed nodes;

My NN 10'24 Scorp.
His NN 10'48 Taurus.

My MC 4'01 Sag.
His Venus 4'38 Sag.

His MC/IC axis overlays (within 1*)
My exact Chiron/Moon opposition
(with my Moon on his IC like ceri has with sag )

posted April 02, 2014 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL

Him and me have an Isis-Osiris-conjunction in 11th harmonic composite with an orb of 23 minutes
(which means in the original composite they are in an 11th harmonic aspect, the undecile).

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posted April 02, 2014 11:16 AM            

Calculate; the midpoint of his Juno and my Jupiter is conjunct the midpoint of my Juno and his Jupiter.

I consider those same phase angles as very important (on the level of a composite conjunction) since I heard Cochrane about its significance

posted April 02, 2014 11:22 AM            

Well, basically you could consider an 11 degree orb for conjunctions in the 11th harmonic chart - cause that would come up as an 11th harmonic aspect in the natal or synastry chart.

But I am sticking to closer orbs for now - actually 3 degree orb in this harmonic relates to about 15 minute orb in the natal chart. 5 degree would be a bit below 30 minutes, so everything under 5 degrees in this harmonic would be REALLY tight. lol

his Venus conjunct my DESC 2°59
his Venus conjunct my true LILITH 0°19

his Sun conjunct my IC 0°33
his Pluto conjunct my IC 0°45
his IC conjunct my Moon 0°41

so this Sun-IC, Moon-IC is really very exact

his Sun conjunct my SN 4°46
his Pluto conjunct my SN 3°28
his SN conjunct my Sun 0°05
his Uranus conjunct my SN 2°09
his Uranus conjunct my SN 4°19

his Saturn conjunct my Vertex 3°29
his Vertex conjunct my Uranus 3°34
his Vertex conjunct my Venus 4°00
his Jupiter conjunct my Avx 5°31
his Pallas conjunct my Avx 0°24
his Mars conjunct my Avx 4°48
his Mars opposite my Jupiter 1°16
his Mars opposite my Venus 5°18

his Juno conjunct my Juno 2°14
his NN conjunct my Neptune 4°13
his NN conjunct my NN 6°35
(it looks wide, yes, but actually means our nodal axis are in 11th harmonic aspect within just over half a degree natally)

posted April 02, 2014 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

No idea how to run a Composite with harmonics.

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Use Solar fire.

posted April 02, 2014 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Use Solar fire.

Otherwise you have to do it manually. Add the same planets in the harmonics to each other, divde by 2, and take the near midoint.

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posted April 02, 2014 12:07 PM            

I’ll just list some archetypal aspects:

My 11th harmonics

Earth/Water Kite: Moon – Jupiter/Vertex/Cupid – Venus/NN/Vesta with focal point in Saturn/Psyche/Uranus in Cancer. The focal point of the Kite is the apex of a Yod with the “release point” in Venus/NN/Vesta.

House on the axis Sun (in Gemini) opposite Pluto, Pluto the “roof”: sextile at the base: Moon – Uranus/Psyche/Saturn; trine at the roof: Mars trine ASC/Mercury; the two squares: Moon square ASC/Mercury, Uranus/Psyche/Saturn square Mars

Amor conjunct Neptune and Alma square Venus/NN

Mars conjunct Union widely

Grand Cross Valentine-Pluto-MC-Jupiter

His 11th harmonics

Two Grand Fire Trines connected by squares:

1st: Mercury – Alma/Uranus/Pholus – MC/Saturn/Pluto/Ceres
2nd: Sun – Mars/NN/Psyche – Venus/Union
The squares: Venus square MC/Saturn/Pluto/Ceres and Mars square Uranus

Cupid conjunct POF
Alma conjunct Pholus conjunct Uranus
Venus conjunct Union opposite Moon
Valentine conjunct Juno
Sun sextile Moon

COMPARISON

Sun conjunct POF
Sun conjunct Amor
Sun conjunct IC

Moon conjunct Jupiter opposite Neptune
Moon trine ASC sextile Lilith
Moon conjunct MC trine Lilith and Valentine

posted April 02, 2014 12:13 PM            

tgem, I'll highlight what I think to be very significant for an 11th harmonics synastry:

The 11th harmonic between Cusp and I is pretty significant:
My sun trine his Saturn (1.5)
Opposite his VTX (0)
Square his MC/IC (0)
My moon conjunct his Pluto (1.8)
My merc opposite his moon (0)
My venus conjunct his vesta (0)
My mars opposite his venus (1.8)
Square his Uranus (0)
My jupiter trine his Pallas (0)
My Saturn conjunct his NN (0)
My Uranus square his alma (0)
Square his ASC (0)
My neptune square his mars (0)
Trine his IC (1)
My SN conjunct his moon (2)
My chiron trine his Uranus (1)
Opposite his alma (0)
Conjunct his ASC (1.5)
My VTX square his Ceres (1)
My Juno trine his MC (1.5)
My alma trine his Juno (1.5)
My ASC trine his Saturn (0)
My MC trine his VTX (1.5)
My Valentine conjunct his karma (1.5)
Trine his Cupido (1.5)
My Amor opposite his venus (0)
My union trine his union (2)
My Cupido opposite his alma (0)
Conjunct his ASC (1.5)
My eros Square his Cupido (2)
My psyche trine his vesta (0)

As far as his asteroids really quick:
His Amor conjunct my anti-VTX (1.8)
His karma opposite my sun (2)
Conjunct my Pluto (2)
Trine my DSC (1)
Conjunct my MC (0)
His union trine my mercury (0)
Trine my NN (2)
His Cupido trine my Pluto (1)
Square my VTX (1)
His eros square my Saturn (1)
Square my jupiter (2)
His psyche square my Uranus (0)
Conjunct my Chiron (0)
His ASC conjunct my Cupido (1.5)

For soulmate pairings:
In my 11th I have Siva trine Kaali @ 1.5
And Siva semi-sextile Parvati very wide at 1.5

In his 11th he has Pluto opposite Proserpina @ 2

posted April 02, 2014 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Most striking at first glance;

reversed nodes;

My NN 10'24 Scorp.
His NN 10'48 Taurus.

My MC 4'01 Sag.
His Venus 4'38 Sag.

His MC/IC axis overlays (within 1*)
My exact Chiron/Moon opposition
(with my Moon on his IC like ceri has with sag )

Angles jump out as you see.

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posted April 02, 2014 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hi Leeloo, I'm glad that I found this, and you say the 11th/Uranus/Aquarius in composite is a marker of "TF". All the stuffs I read about 11th in composite seem so impersonal, nothing profound. From what you said, I gather 'TF' doesn't have to be romantic in nature? I'm just curious, hope you don't mind my ignorance

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posted April 02, 2014 12:24 PM            

In my own 11th harmonic I have:

Sun conjunct Moon 6
Sun opposite Lilith 2
Sun opposite Osiris 0
Moon opposite Chiron 2
Moon opposite Lilith 4
Venus opposite Uranus 3
Venus conjunct Pluto 5
Jupiter conjunct ASC 0
Saturn conjunct Vertex 1
Uranus opposite Pluto 2
NN conjunct Juno 5

And 11th harmonic synastry:

My Sun conjunct His Moon (but this is wide, 10 degrees, but i guess in tropical it would still give an 11th harmonic aspect within a degree)
My Sun conjunct His ASC 2
My Sun conjunct His NN (true node) 4
My Sun opposite His Jupiter 1,5
My Sun conjunct His Vertex 3

His Moon opposite My Neptune 4

My Mercury conjunct His Saturn 0

His Venus conjunct my KARMA 5 (how could that happen? We have an exact conjunction of his Venus and my Karma in normal synastry!!!)

My Venus opposite His Pluto 7
My Venus opposite His Lilith 2
His Venus conjunct My DSC 10 (almost a degree in normal synastry conjunction)

My Mars conjunct His Mars 0'20 seconds!
My Mars opposite His Uranus 6 (also exact in normal synastry)

His Jupiter conjunct my Neptune 8 (also exact in normal synastry)

My Uranus conjunct His Lilith 4

His Neptune conjunct My Juno 4

His Pluto conjunct my DSC 6

My NN (mean node) conjunct his Mars 2

posted April 02, 2014 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Well, basically you could consider an 11 degree orb for conjunctions in the 11th harmonic chart - cause that would come up as an 11th harmonic aspect in the natal or synastry chart.

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Ceri,

I think these are great markers:

his Venus conjunct my DESC 2°59
his Venus conjunct my true LILITH 0°19

his Sun conjunct my IC 0°33
his Pluto conjunct my IC 0°45
his IC conjunct my Moon 0°41

so this Sun-IC, Moon-IC is really very exact

his Sun conjunct my SN 4°46
his Pluto conjunct my SN 3°28
his SN conjunct my Sun 0°05
his Uranus conjunct my SN 2°09
his Uranus conjunct my SN 4°19

his Saturn conjunct my Vertex 3°29
his Vertex conjunct my Uranus 3°34
his Vertex conjunct my Venus 4°00
his Jupiter conjunct my Avx 5°31
his Pallas conjunct my Avx 0°24
his Mars conjunct my Avx 4°48
his Mars opposite my Jupiter 1°16
his Mars opposite my Venus 5°18/b]

[b]his Juno conjunct my Juno 2°14
his NN conjunct my Neptune 4°13
his NN conjunct my NN 6°35
(it looks wide, yes, but actually means our nodal axis are in 11th harmonic aspect within just over half a degree natally)