posted August 19, 2014 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Funny I have her on my Venus, he has her on his Mars.

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This is nice.

My Desdemona in Scorpio squares my Amor/Vertex, trines his DSC exact, sextile his ASC and my Mars/Union.

His Desdemona conjunct my Neptune opp my Eros exact and his Mars, squares my Venus Ceres his Jupiter etc. Sextiles his Lust/Valentine and my Psyche.

Composite Desdemona in 1st opp Cupido exact, trine Amor, sextile Moon and Lilith.

posted August 20, 2014 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
VALENTINE doesn`t seem to be a soulmate-chart though, as the pairings are very weak there.

Only pairing coming up is an exact sextile of Pluto to Proserpina, highlighting the transformative effect of Valentine-love, but none of theother usual suspects.

ANTEROS has a close PSYCHE-AMOR-trine in water signs

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Ceri, this discovery chart concept is wonderful, it's like the natal chart of the asteroid, right?? And one can see there that asteroid's energy, what it brings into the world.

I think Valentine has a strong healing vibe and some strong sacred sexuality aspects, plus a devotion theme - it looks rather spiritual to me:

- the Wedge between Pluto/Chiron and Leo Moon, an inflamed, passionate, Lover's Moon; and the Kite with Vesta/Moon/ChironSaturn mdp and Karma - Devotion rewarded
- the other Wedge, between Neptune/Juno on nodal axis and Valentine/Lust - the ideal partner, the Soulmate
- the Yod between Vesta/Pluto - eternal and deep devotion, triggered by a Jupiter/Mercury conjunction, a bit of triumph of mind over spirit, expansion of the mind and also light-hearted, flying happiness
- a wonderful Venus/Jupiter/Mercury conjunction, heralding happy love, and Mercury is a catalyst speeding things up
- the dispositor of Valentine/Lust is involved in a sacred sexuality stellium - with Eros and Anteros, and Pallas in the middle.

Not a bad chart, IMO.

Do you happen to have Amor? I'm very curious about that one.

posted August 20, 2014 06:08 AM            

Amor, on the other hand, is more like mature love, a feeling of love being acknowledged as a an adult love, all-encompassing. I'm basing my vision on Amor on the significance of this word in many languages.

For example, in Italian one can say "I love you" two ways:

ti voglio bene - which means I love you, but more like I want you, I desire you, having an object of desire

when you say "ti amo" however, from amare (a derivative of Amor) you acknowledge a mature, all-encompassing, true love.

posted August 20, 2014 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Also, now that I think about it, Venus/Mercury/Jupiter is an indicator of "youthful love" because, IMO, Valentine gives that feeling of teenage love, youthful love, what we feel when we fall in love like the first time, over and over again. That fresh, young, devoted feeling teenage love has.

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i was thinking exactly the same thing, when I saw Venus,Mercury,Jupiter together. It just makes so much sense. and in Scorpio intense and deep and decidedly not platonic. (also with Lust conj. Valentine).

It is charming, but in a deeper passionate way. It is more "in love" than Amor might be. I do agree with you there.

posted August 20, 2014 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
for comparison the Amor-Discovery chart

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Thank you, Ceri!

Born in Paris...lol the ultimate place, right??

In Pisces
Amor on SN opp Vesta, with a Vesta destiny
Sun conjunct Vesta in Pisces: so devoted, to the point of self-sacrifice!
He doesn't take no for an answer when it comes to the physical love part : Mars conjunct Eros In a Yod with Jupiter and Ceres: lots of love-making, he likes
Juno opp Ceres exact, semisextile Jupiter
Moon conjunct Alma and Chiron: so much pain and healing, steady and faithful, all disp by Venus, so loyal! And look at the Minor Triangle.

Venus trine Neptune/Psyche awwww the mythical aspect
Venus in Taurus square Saturn - all the possible pain, all unrequited loves, but also love growing with time and never giving up

Valentine trine Vesta exact, and NN, sextile Amor

What a wonderful chart for Amor!

posted August 20, 2014 09:50 AM            

" so devoted, to the point of self-sacrifice!"
Isn`t that really fitting?

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He doesn't take no for an answer when it comes to the physical love part : Mars conjunct Eros "
LOL
Yes, that actually was gobsmacking to me, as Ihave always read Amor was somehow more platonic. But here with The Eros-Mars, there is so much passion and sex here, too. well lovemaking.
BUT being in Pisces and all the other things, it needs to be as expression of spiritual connection/ love and caring (Jupiter-Ceres)

"Venus in Taurus square Saturn - all the possible pain, all unrequited loves, but also love growing with time and never giving up"
Yes, I think Amor is the unconditional lover, and will keep on loving even if there is no chance to have the love returned. Love for the sake of love itself. Or actually as appreciation of the other person.

posted August 20, 2014 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[B]and I ahve a new colleague whose name sounds French, too, so maybe that was why I picked Paris.

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Ooops...what does he have in Aqua?

"Venus in Taurus square Saturn - all the possible pain, all unrequited loves, but also love growing with time and never giving up"
Yes, I think Amor is the unconditional lover, and will keep on loving even if there is no chance to have the love returned. Love for the sake of love itself. Or actually as appreciation of the other person.

posted August 20, 2014 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Ooops...what does he have in Aqua?

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Actually I was wondering if he might be an Aqua. lol
NO clue though, when his birthday is. Besides he is possibly 10 years younger or so than me.

Actually he is a trained opera singer, tenor, who has become a teacher now.
Possibly just for a few months at our school.

Anyway, he surely is eyecandy.
Well when my female colleague mentioned his eyecandyness, I suddenly heard the words coming out of my mouth: "Get in line, sister!"

Nah seriously, poor guy, 3 days at school, and already two grown up teacher are acting all puberty-like again. Just a joke though of course, but he does look nice. Of course I have no idea if he really is... nice.

posted August 20, 2014 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Actually I was wondering if he might be an Aqua. lol
NO clue though, when his birthday is. Besides he is possibly 10 years younger or so than me.

Actually he is a trained opera singer, tenor, who has become a teacher now.
Possibly just for a few months at our school.

Anyway, he surely is eyecandy.
Well when my female colleague mentioned his eyecandyness, I suddenly heard the words coming out of my mouth: "Get in line, sister!"

Nah seriously, poor guy, 3 days at school, and already two grown up teacher are acting all puberty-like again. Just a joke though of course, but he does look nice. Of course I have no idea if he really is... nice.

http://www.rochuskirche.de/upload/macher/gaeste/philip-farmand.jpg

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OMG Ceri...he looks so nice and he has that Merc/Jupiter vibe!! I'm sure he must have something in Aqua, possibly a Mars in Cancer as well!

You HAVE got to get into the school's records, find out his Bday!

Only a few months??? You've got to move fast, Ceri! And get that competition out of the way, send her to some campus or something for a few months

Seriously now, he really is cute and he's your type.

posted August 20, 2014 03:18 PM            

His Amor is in Taurus 8th, a steady placement, a sensual Amor. Squares Venus (1) sextiles Alma/Pholus. His Draco Amor conjuncts my geo Moon exact. His Amor opp my Vesta squares my Moon widely, trines my Venus, sextiles my Venus. My Amor/Vertex opp his Merc, trines hi NN/IC, sextiles his MC/Saturn and his 5th ruler.

Composite Amor in Cancer conjunct Saturn in 8th, Saturn rules 2nd, multiples aspects. Davison Amor conjunct Sun (2) in Gem 12th house.

What about your Amor?

posted August 20, 2014 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
These discovery charts are amazing, can we have a new thread dedicated to them? Maybe the interpretations of them can go into the reference forum.

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that is a good idea.

posted August 20, 2014 05:01 PM            

Leo Amor - 7th. A golden Amor. Warm, passionate, positive, protective, creative. I get the image of Amor embracing the world (or the partner, 7th house) and infusing them with warmth, lights and positive energy.
Truely radiant.

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It trines Chiron (2) and sextiles Uranus (0) Draco Amor/Vertex conjuncts geo NN/POF (0)"
Certainly the healing power of unconditional lvoe. and in fact with Dr Amor on your NN and POF this is what you are destined for, and as a bonus, it will also be your "happy place".

"His Amor is in Taurus 8th, a steady placement, a sensual Amor."
Love that. It is intense, profound, warm and sensual. You both have quite posessive Amors actually, or let us put it this way, fixed Amors, deeply emotional and holding on

"His Draco Amor conjuncts my geo Moon exact."
That is just lovely. a deep soul love for your emotional being.

"Composite Amor in Cancer conjunct Saturn in 8th, Saturn rules 2nd, multiples aspects."
A nurturing transformative, caring, emotional, binding love. Superglue. Karmic maybe even. Very steadfast, loyal and committed.

"What about your Amor?"
Too late for details. But natally my AMOR is on 2 Sag in 12th house, conjunct Mars (3) and MEDEA and LIEBE closely.
Grand trine with Dejanira and Aura on IC and Priapus in Leo in 8th house. Quindecile KARMA in 7th house.

Duad AMOR on 25 Sagittarius, right on my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction. I think it means whenever my Sun-Mercury is triggered, the Duad Amor is resonating. Like an overtone.

Draco AMOR on 21 Pisces, completing a Grand trine with tropical EROS on 21 Cancer and tropical ANTEROS on 21 Scorpio.

posted August 21, 2014 12:34 PM            

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"My Amor is in Leo 7th conjunct Vertex (3). A good placement for finding Amor lol"
Absolutely, yes!
I have EROS on my Vertex. lol. But Cancer and 8th, more brooding than yours.

Leo Amor - 7th. A golden Amor. Warm, passionate, positive, protective, creative. I get the image of Amor embracing the world (or the partner, 7th house) and infusing them with warmth, lights and positive energy.
Truely radiant.

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It trines Chiron (2) and sextiles Uranus (0) Draco Amor/Vertex conjuncts geo NN/POF (0)"
Certainly the healing power of unconditional lvoe. and in fact with Dr Amor on your NN and POF this is what you are destined for, and as a bonus, it will also be your "happy place".

"His Amor is in Taurus 8th, a steady placement, a sensual Amor."
Love that. It is intense, profound, warm and sensual. You both have quite posessive Amors actually, or let us put it this way, fixed Amors, deeply emotional and holding on

"His Draco Amor conjuncts my geo Moon exact."
That is just lovely. a deep soul love for your emotional being.

"Composite Amor in Cancer conjunct Saturn in 8th, Saturn rules 2nd, multiples aspects."
A nurturing transformative, caring, emotional, binding love. Superglue. Karmic maybe even. Very steadfast, loyal and committed.

"What about your Amor?"
Too late for details. But natally my AMOR is on 2 Sag in 12th house, conjunct Mars (3) and MEDEA and LIEBE closely.
Grand trine with Dejanira and Aura on IC and Priapus in Leo in 8th house. Quindecile KARMA in 7th house.

Duad AMOR on 25 Sagittarius, right on my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction. I think it means whenever my Sun-Mercury is triggered, the Duad Amor is resonating. Like an overtone.

Draco AMOR on 21 Pisces, completing a Grand trine with tropical EROS on 21 Cancer and tropical ANTEROS on 21 Scorpio.

(difference between Draco and Duad seems to be that Draco is more purposeful, coming with a karmic implication, while Duad is just the "under the surface"-stuff, but not necessarily karmic or coming with a mission or an "arrow to your destination")

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Thank you

Your Amor knows what he wants and he is not exactly platonic You could even plot a little with Medeea there

posted August 21, 2014 01:32 PM            

This could be another important reason why you are attracted to people conjuncting your Sun/Mercury. The duad Amor, once triggered, will of course trigger the "other" Amor, the natal/tropical one, by vibration.

posted August 21, 2014 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
My chart does not indicate that I am faithful, although I am in a committed relationship.
Can I use the following aspects as a legal indication of a faithful person?
Moon in Taurus
Saturn square Mars (4°)
Penelope trigon MC (1°)
Odysseus trigon Venus (1°)
Eurydike square Saturn (0°)
Orpheus does nothing

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If Moon in Taurus and Mars square Saturn is not faithful, then I don't know who is

And the asteroids show faithfulness as well.

posted August 21, 2014 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
If Moon in Taurus and Mars square Saturn is not faithful, then I don't know who is

And the asteroids show faithfulness as well.

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Thanks! So I will use them as a legal evidence and will not mention the rest of my chart.

posted August 21, 2014 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
Thanks! So I will use them as a legal evidence and will not mention the rest of my chart.

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I am sorry, GeminiKarat

Keep your good spirit I can see you have a great sense of humor!

posted August 21, 2014 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]Duad AMOR on 25 Sagittarius, right on my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction. I think it means whenever my Sun-Mercury is triggered, the Duad Amor is resonating. Like an overtone.

This could be another important reason why you are attracted to people conjuncting your Sun/Mercury. The duad Amor, once triggered, will of course trigger the "other" Amor, the natal/tropical one, by vibration.

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That were my thoughts, too. So it means that Mr Sg`s Sun-MC-Moon are all on my Duad Amor.

posted August 31, 2014 08:24 AM            

But what is interesting to note is that Odysseus/Ulysses traveled long and hard for his love. With my boyfriend he went homeless in Texas and hitchhiked all the way to my state not expecting to find me, may-hap his soul wanted to? And this is why he was traveling?