posted August 15, 2014 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think you may be a faithful one. Vesta on Vx shows some lessons connected to Vesta will happen in this life.

I like your Vesta connections with the guy also your Penelope aspects to him. What do his Saturn and Uranus rule? What about the composite?

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My VESTA-VX are in my 7H, and my NN is conj my DC 1°. So yes. With my ODYSSEUS-SUN in 10H, it delves into more than just romance themes. VESTA is tough work, man. The sabian for my VESTA is "A merry-go-round", lol.

For KD -
URANUS rules the IC (we have AC-IC conj 0°)
SATURN rules the 3H
Aquarius SUN conj MERCURY 1° in the 3H
URANUS conj ODYSSEUS 0° in 1H
SATURN sits in the 11H (*distantly waves to URANUS again*)
SATURN and URANUS are also sextile 1°
Like mine, VESTA is also in 7H. VESTA conj DC 2°.

Composite - our love stellium (SUN-MERCURY-VENUS-MOON) is in Capricorn in the 1H (except MERCURY at 29°Sag).

URANUS conj ULYSSES 0° in 11H, and square Aquarius PENELOPE-SN 3° in 2H.

SUN opp VESTA 0° in the 7H
VESTA sextile JUNO 0° in the 9H
JUNO trine SUN 0°
JUNO trine VENUS 3°

Uranian themes abound! And 9H? Yes, we come from different countries. It's got the sense of "long, arduous journey across a vast expanse". URANUS + ODYSSEUS, heh.

posted August 15, 2014 11:27 AM            

natal:

Vesta opposite Juno 2
Vesta conjunct Hestia 2
Hestia opposite Juno exact
Penelope conjunct Moon 1
Odysseus conjunct Mercury 1
Penelope sextile Odysseus 1
Sun square Saturn exact
Venus square Saturn 5

In my synastry with him:

He first:

Moon sextile Juno 1
Moon trine Vesta exact
Moon trine Hestia 1

Mars conjunct Juno exact
Mars opposite Vesta 2
Mars opposite Hestia exact

Saturn square Moon 2
Saturn conjunct Pluto 1

Chiron opposite Juno exact
Chiron conjunct Vesta 1
Chiron conjunct Hestia exact

Juno conjunct MC exact

Vesta trine Sun 2

posted August 15, 2014 11:28 AM            

However, I wonder, his Uranus is widely conjunct ODYSSEUS (4 degrees) and parallel (under one degree, but not under half a degree). And it is in his 8th house.

Mars in 6th people (and in Virgo) apart from being hard workers, have a strong daily appetite. Perhaps this is what it means, in connection to Jupiter. The square to Mercury would perhaps be more problematic, or maybe it shows his strong physical connection to a partner.

I wonder if 5th ruler conjunct Sun isn't also a placement for artists or very creative people and it could show, in certain cases, someone who is bit self-centered or very preoccupied with his image? Being in 10th as well? But the square to Saturn on DSC gives it a strong Saturnian vibe.

Good idea about checking 5th ruler as well:

my 5th/8th ruler Mercury conjunct Pluto and Penelope (2) square Saturn semisextiles Vesta exact. Quite faithful and it doesn't give fleeting love interests.

His 5th ruler Uranus in Libra 2nd conjunct Fiducia (1) trine Saturn and Mercury (ASC/MC/SN ruler) and part of that nice faithfulness Star of David.

The other ruler, Saturn...well it's described above.

EDIT: Also, people with 6th house placements, especially Sun/Moon/Venus and Mars do not like casual encounters and being intimate with strangers. They prefer a stable partner, someone they know very well, for various reasons. They are turned on by people they know/see on a daily basis. They are also concerned about health. Also it is said a regular activity is important for their overall health.

Uranus connected to Odysseus may show a love for travel/adventures.

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posted August 15, 2014 11:33 AM            

Just kidding! Your Mars is a fantastic one!
Well, I guess one possible side of Mars in 12th is extreme devotion.
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posted August 15, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why?

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At about 16 years old, depending on your exact date of birth, which you want to keep private, right?

Anyway, around that time Pluto came to your natal IC by solar arc. Definitely a time when powerful changes or transformation would occur, probably in your family. Something changed foreever. I cannot say more, because I don`t know when exactly that time was, and do not know which transits also hit at that time.
And of course this is only true if your birthtime is exact.

But you should have noticed sa Pluto on your IC. REstructuring of the home. Could also have to do with your education, schooling, as Pluto rules your 3rd house.

WEll in my mom`s case, when sa pluto was conjunct her natal IC, her mother died. But it does not always have to be that gruesome. Just in her case it was.

for me when sa MC hit my n Pluto, my mom`s grandfather died, the first death I can recall in my life.

posted August 15, 2014 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Oh yes, I made some spiritual courses (venus in 12th house) invented and conducted by a real cordial (venus) man. That helped me sooo much. And being creative really makes me happy. Thank you for confirming that

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I am sorry for your Pluto/IC experiences, Enneline I'm also happy and proud of you for overcoming them. Pluto there can only make you stronger

posted August 15, 2014 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
his loyalty markers to my chart

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His Vesta to your natal is very creative and nice, it's like it has a Quintile vibe. You would perhaps be very connected intellectually and have a strong, exhilarating mind connection.

I love your Odysseus/Penelope conjunction and the Juno/Valentine pointing to a soulmate Union (8th/12th) out of love.

posted August 15, 2014 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
My VESTA-VX are in my 7H, and my NN is conj my DC 1°. So yes. With my ODYSSEUS-SUN in 10H, it delves into more than just romance themes. VESTA is tough work, man. The sabian for my VESTA is "A merry-go-round", lol.

[b]For KD -
URANUS rules the IC (we have AC-IC conj 0°)
SATURN rules the 3H
Aquarius SUN conj MERCURY 1° in the 3H
URANUS conj ODYSSEUS 0° in 1H
SATURN sits in the 11H (*distantly waves to URANUS again*)
SATURN and URANUS are also sextile 1°
Like mine, VESTA is also in 7H. VESTA conj DC 2°.

Composite - our love stellium (SUN-MERCURY-VENUS-MOON) is in Capricorn in the 1H (except MERCURY at 29°Sag).

URANUS conj ULYSSES 0° in 11H, and square Aquarius PENELOPE-SN 3° in 2H.

SUN opp VESTA 0° in the 7H
VESTA sextile JUNO 0° in the 9H
JUNO trine SUN 0°
JUNO trine VENUS 3°

Uranian themes abound! And 9H? Yes, we come from different countries. It's got the sense of "long, arduous journey across a vast expanse". URANUS + ODYSSEUS, heh.

Composite sabians -
VESTA - "Two Nature Spirits Dancing Under the Moonlight"
JUNO - "A harem"
ULYSSES/URANUS - "American Indians Making Camp After Moving Into A New Territory"[/B]

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Very nice aspects.

posted August 15, 2014 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
ok. I think i might be the faithful one. But with one precondition - i have to love the person. That is why i can't start any new relationship properly, because no one lives up to the standard of the man i still love.

natal:

Vesta opposite Juno 2
Vesta conjunct Hestia 2
Hestia opposite Juno exact
[b]Penelope conjunct Moon 1
Odysseus conjunct Mercury 1
Penelope sextile Odysseus 1
Sun square Saturn exact
Venus square Saturn 5

In my synastry with him:

He first:

Moon sextile Juno 1
Moon trine Vesta exact
Moon trine Hestia 1

Mars conjunct Juno exact
Mars opposite Vesta 2
Mars opposite Hestia exact

Saturn square Moon 2
Saturn conjunct Pluto 1

Chiron opposite Juno exact
Chiron conjunct Vesta 1
Chiron conjunct Hestia exact

Juno conjunct MC exact

Vesta trine Sun 2

So - what's your verdict? [/B]

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You have very nice aspects in your natal, Selene. What does your Mercury rule? Do you like to travel?

And the synastric aspects are awesome. What happens in the composite? What about his faithfulness profile?

posted August 15, 2014 12:35 PM            

Mostly recently I have had:

My Penelope conjunct their Ulysses/Odysseus exact

My Penelope square their Sun
My Odysseus conjunct their mars 4
My vesta square their lust exact
My vesta quincunx their Saturn 1
Their vesta conjunct my Sun 3

posted August 15, 2014 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I would say that.

Come on, it's romantic!

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Would you wait for 20 years like Penelope did?

posted August 15, 2014 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Outstanding aspects, Astro Keen What about the composite/Davison?

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Not surprisingly, the Penelope/Sun DW translates as Penelope conjunct Sun on the ASC in both Comp/Davison. In the Davison it is in the 12th.

Another loyalty marker is Osiris conjunct Sun in Composite. According to iQ, this means valuing each other as a Soul Mate and being loyal.

We also have Atropos exact on Virgo Asc. Could this be part of the same theme?

OK, I'll just list these below:

Asc- 22.43
Atropos - 22.43
Prosperina - 23.23
Osiris - 24.0
Apollo - 24.9
SUN - 24.34
Penelope - 25.20

posted August 15, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:

Would you wait for 20 years like Penelope did?

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posted August 15, 2014 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great aspects, libran dream!

Why do you say "it shouldn't work"?

Also, could you develop a bit the idea of the "first astro body" in a chart?

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The idea of order of planets is not a new one at all, very very old I think, I can't remember where I read about it though...

posted August 15, 2014 02:17 PM            

Mars in Aries square Neptune, Saturn, Uranus,Chiron, not a very happy Mars.
Mars conjunct Lust, Eros in 11th and oppose Cupid.

On the other hand:
Vesta conjunct Hestia, Venus, Karma in 6th.
Penelope conjunct Neptune in 9th, trine Moon, sextile Venus/Hestia/Vesta.
Juno near Moon in 5th, a widish conjunction. So Penelope/Neptune, Venus/Hestia/Vesta and Moon/Juno form a minor triangle.

Look back at the Composite:
Hestia exact on Sun in 11th
Vesta on Saturn in 10th

Penelope exact conjunct Ulysses and Juno in 9th with Odysseus is 5 degrees away.
Odysseus exact opposite Circe, Circe conjunct Boda/Eros 1.
What bizarre them is this!

posted August 15, 2014 02:42 PM            

Just looked in your chart(hope you don't mind), your Odysseus/Juno/Mars Yod has a release point in Scorpio Boda!! It's 2 degrees from your POF too, a love Yod with happy ending.

Leeloo, Circe on MC, high five? ^^
You have Boda exact opposite Odysseus, a faithful love mate.

posted August 15, 2014 02:53 PM            

My loyalty markers to him (some of them)

Saturn trine Sun and Moon
Saturn quintile his Mars

Juno conjunct his Hestia exact trine my Saturn and his Moon sextile his Amor

Vesta conjunct Moon
opposite Amor
square Juno (cross with my Moon)

Ulysses/Hestia/Odysseus conjunct his Mars trine his Venus and Pluto opp his Neptune

Fiducia trine his Hestia and my Saturn

My Penelope conjunct his Vesta trine his Juno/Ceres and my Karma sextile my Moon and his Fides

My Fides opp his Mars, part of the cross

His loyalty markers to me

Saturn square Mars
Saturn trine Uranus
Saturn square Sun (wide)

Juno cross (conjunct my Lilith opp my Moon square his Moon on my MC)
Juno trine my Karma and Penelope sextile my NN

Vesta conjunct my Penelope and my 5th/8th ruler Mercury trine Lilith and Karma
Vesta sextile Moon exact and NN (1)
Vesta square my ASC/DSC with Saturn

His Penelope conjunct my Sun exact
My Penelope semisextile his Moon

His Penelope trine my ASC and IC, sextile MC and DSC

His Fiducia/Uranus conjunct my Uranus (ASC)

His Fides conjunct my NN/POF exact, connected to my luminaries

His Hestia conjunct my Juno exact

His Odysseus/Ulysses conjunct my Chiron opp my Valentine trine my Amor/Vertex and his IC/NN, so I'm somehow connected to his Odysseus/Ulysses Star of David

So Sun/Moon/Saturn DW
Mars/Saturn DW
Vesta/Moon DW
Moon/Juno DW

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posted August 15, 2014 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:

But really who wants to waits for someone that long.

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LOL...nice aspects BTW.

posted August 15, 2014 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Not surprisingly, the Penelope/Sun DW translates as Penelope conjunct Sun on the ASC in both Comp/Davison. In the Davison it is in the 12th.

Another loyalty marker is Osiris conjunct Sun in Composite. According to iQ, this means valuing each other as a Soul Mate and being loyal.

We also have Atropos exact on Virgo Asc. Could this be part of the same theme?

OK, I'll just list these below:

Asc- 22.43
Atropos - 22.43
Prosperina - 23.23
Osiris - 24.0
Apollo - 24.9
[b]SUN - 24.34
Penelope - 25.20

Certainly, waiting endlessly seems to be a theme here.[/B]

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Great aspects! Why do you think Atropos to be part of the same theme?

We have Osiris conjunct ASC, but by 4 and Isis in a nice Yod with Sun sextile Moon.

posted August 15, 2014 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

The reason why I'm constantly surprised that it works is I guess because I'm a cautious skeptic. I'm very eager to try new things, but I reserve my judgement for it working for a long time. It just didn't seem to me that it would work, it's just so new.

The idea of order of planets is not a new one at all, very very old I think, I can't remember where I read about it though...

Anyway, the gist of it is the theory that planets come into one's consciousness in the order in which they appear in the chart from AC. And that each one refines the ideas of all the previous. In that vein, one would judge the world and the people around them by using the filters of the planets in the order in which they appear, so in overly simplified terms ie. if you have Venus before Sun before Saturn and then Mercury, as you meet people, you would first judge/examine their beauty, then their self-expression, then their seriousness, then their intellect. The process goes on very quickly and you don't notice, but each previous one informs the subsequent ones, and your ideas on the planet are more and more complex the later it appears in the chart.
Ugh, I'm sorry if I've explained this a bit over-involved, it's actually a simple theory.

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Thank you so much! is this age-related, when you speak about order? Because my first is Pallas on ASC, I find it hard to believe I was first wise

What I do believe in though is that planets in houses are related to two types of sequence:

-first approach, first part of the house
- first and second part of life

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posted August 15, 2014 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hmm, I can be good and I can be bad.

Mars in Aries square Neptune, Saturn, Uranus,Chiron, not a very happy Mars.
Mars conjunct Lust, Eros in 11th and oppose Cupid.

On the other hand:
Vesta conjunct Hestia, Venus, Karma in 6th.
Penelope conjunct Neptune in 9th, trine Moon, sextile Venus/Hestia/Vesta.
Juno near Moon in 5th, a widish conjunction. So Penelope/Neptune, Venus/Hestia/Vesta and Moon/Juno form a minor triangle.

Look back at the Composite:
Hestia exact on Sun in 11th
Vesta on Saturn in 10th

Penelope exact conjunct Ulysses and Juno in 9th with Odysseus is 5 degrees away.
Odysseus exact opposite Circe, Circe conjunct Boda/Eros 1.
What bizarre them is this!

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Awesome connection with Circe, mythologically speaking. On the other hand, it may show that at some point, some Circe woman might have come between you.

A Minor triangle of devotion, how cool is that, lovely flower! and wow, such a strong and trialed Mars,

Your Neptune rules your 11th house, so your Penelope conjunct Neptune in the 9th makes you devoted to 9th/11th issues/partners