posted August 15, 2014 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Cappy, Hestia conjunct Vesta here, high five!

Just looked in your chart(hope you don't mind), your Odysseus/Juno/Mars Yod has a release point in Scorpio Boda!! It's 2 degrees from your POF too, a love Yod with happy ending.

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High 666! Of course I don't mind if you play with my chart. But even if there's a happy ending, it will be without boda

posted August 15, 2014 03:19 PM            

Vesta conjunct Uranus (3rd ruler-secondary 8th house) in Libra 11th
trine Juno/Ceres

Vesta conjunct Fiducia a bit wider (5)

Fides conjunct Avx exact

Fides conjunct Neptune (IC ruler) (2)

Penelope conjunct Moon (1) and Pluto (4) in 10th
Penelope sextile Mars (2)

Hestia conjunct Chiron (2) in 5th trine NN/Mercury, part of the Yod with Venus and Sun on ASC/DSC - I like this discovery, it looks like the Venus/Chiron/Sun/DSC Yod is connected to Hestia.

Odysseus/Ulysses conjunct in the 6th Taurus (perhaps we'll be professional traveleres ), no aspects

Davison

Vesta conjunct Pluto on 5th cusp makes a complex config:

Cardinal Cross with ASC/DSC/Saturn and POF
Vesta square Saturn exact
T/Wedge: Vesta/Pluto trine Lilith sextile Mars and Fides/Neptune exact

Penelope opp Juno/Jupiter/Ceres
trine Venus
sextile Vertex

Hestia trine DSC

Fides conjunct Neptune (MC ruler) trine Mars and POF sextile Lilith and sextile Vesta/Pluto

Interesting placement here:

Ulysses on Avx exact quincunx NN exact and Ulysse/Odysseus conjunct Venus and Karma, trapezoid apex, in Taurus 11th
trine Penelope

I think any direct contact between Penelope and Odysseus/Ulysses is a very nice aspect to have in the synastry and composite/Davison when it comes to our theme.

posted August 15, 2014 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:

btw: are you the dominant part in the relationship?

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I like to think so, yes
Kidding! I have a lot of Libra, remember?? I like a quid pro quo, taking turns

posted August 15, 2014 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
LeeLoo,

You may be making sense of the world using the Pallas lens. A way to organise information and see patterns, perhaps seeing the bigger picture more than the ordinary person does. It is, essentially, an intelligent asteroid.

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Thank you, Astro keen (not that I put it there

Libran dream, shall I understand Pallas shows my first approach on things/people?

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posted August 15, 2014 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Awesome connection with Circe, mythologically speaking. On the other hand, it may show that at some point, some Circe woman might have come between you.

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A Minor triangle of devotion, how cool is that, lovely flower! and wow, such a strong and trialed Mars,

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QUOTE]Your Neptune rules your 11th house, so your Penelope conjunct Neptune in the 9th makes you devoted to 9th/11th issues/partners [/QUOTE]
Hallelujah to friendship!

posted August 15, 2014 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I like to think so, yes
Kidding! I have a lot of Libra, remember?? I like a quid pro quo, taking turns

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yes, but the intepretation and perception of quid pro quo is based on you then

Shouldn't we also analyze asteroids named after notorious cheaters like Zeus?

posted August 15, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Awesome connection with Circe, mythologically speaking. On the other hand, it may show that at some point, some Circe woman might have come between you.

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Hmmm...I'm not sure about this anymore. We must consider this connection to Circe carefully. I mean it is interesting to check the connection between Circe and Odysseus and Penelope in Synastry and Composite.

All right...in the myth, Circe tempted Ulysses, but he resisted, helped by Hermes (mind, intelligence, mental control, wisdom). So Circe actually represents NOT giving into temptation, resisting it. I suppose a connection between Circe and Ulysses/Odysseus in synastry/composite shows that, even if Ulysses/Odysseus is or will be tempted (regardless the gender), he will resist and reject the temptation. What do you think about this possible interpretation?

FAITHFUL IN THE FACE OF TEMPTATION

Here is the Circe myth:

In Homer's Odyssey, Circe is described as living in a mansion that stands in the middle of a clearing in a dense wood. Around the house prowled strangely docile lions and wolves, the drugged victims of her magic;[3] they were not dangerous, and fawned on all newcomers. Circe worked at a huge loom.[4] She invited Odysseus' crew to a feast of familiar food, a pottage of cheese and meal, sweetened with honey and laced with wine, but also laced with one of her magical potions, and drunk from an enchanted cup.[5] Thus so she turned them all into swine with a wand after they gorged themselves on it. Only Eurylochus, suspecting treachery from the outset, escaped to warn Odysseus and the others who had stayed behind at the ships. Odysseus set out to rescue his men, but was intercepted by the messenger god, Hermes, who had been sent by Athena. Hermes told Odysseus to use the holy herb moly to protect himself from Circe's potion and, having resisted it, to draw his sword and act as if he were to attack Circe. From there, Circe would ask him to bed, but Hermes advised caution, for even there the goddess would be treacherous. She would take his manhood unless he had her swear by the names of the gods that she would not.

Odysseus followed Hermes's advice, freeing his men and then remained on the island for one year, feasting and drinking wine. According to Homer, Circe suggested two alternative routes to Odysseus to return to Ithaca: toward Planctae, the "Wandering Rocks", or passing between the dangerous Scylla and the whirlpool-like Charybdis, conventionally identified with the Strait of Messina. She also advised Odysseus to go to the Underworld and gave him directions.

Or do you have other suggestion?

posted August 15, 2014 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, wait, I forgot about that...you're the Circe woman: Circe on MC! no one can beat that: so you're both his Circe and his Penelope

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He can find another Circe with my blessing .
I love Circe in my chart!!! I'd love to be a real witch .

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
High 666! Of course I don't mind if you play with my chart. But even if there's a happy ending, it will be without boda

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posted August 15, 2014 03:52 PM            

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I was thinking about a soul boda, a boda of energies.

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I have Circe conjunct Jupiter. Does that mean I'd be an irresitible seductress?

posted August 15, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]I was thinking about a soul boda, a boda of energies.

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posted August 15, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hmmm...I'm not sure about this anymore. We must consider this connection to Circe carefully. I mean it is interesting to check the connection between Circe and Odysseus and Penelope in Synastry and Composite.

All right...in the myth, Circe tempted Ulysses, but he resisted, helped by Hermes (mind, intelligence, mental control, wisdom). So Circe actually represents NOT giving into temptation, resisting it. I suppose a connection between Circe and Ulysses/Odysseus in synastry/composite shows that, even if Ulysses/Odysseus is or will be tempted (regardless the gender), he will resist and reject the temptation. What do you think about this possible interpretation?

FAITHFUL IN THE FACE OF TEMPTATION

Here is the Circe myth:

In Homer's Odyssey, Circe is described as living in a mansion that stands in the middle of a clearing in a dense wood. Around the house prowled strangely docile lions and wolves, the drugged victims of her magic;[3] they were not dangerous, and fawned on all newcomers. Circe worked at a huge loom.[4] She invited Odysseus' crew to a feast of familiar food, a pottage of cheese and meal, sweetened with honey and laced with wine, but also laced with one of her magical potions, and drunk from an enchanted cup.[5] Thus so she turned them all into swine with a wand after they gorged themselves on it. Only Eurylochus, suspecting treachery from the outset, escaped to warn Odysseus and the others who had stayed behind at the ships. Odysseus set out to rescue his men, but was intercepted by the messenger god, Hermes, who had been sent by Athena. Hermes told Odysseus to use the holy herb moly to protect himself from Circe's potion and, having resisted it, to draw his sword and act as if he were to attack Circe. From there, Circe would ask him to bed, but Hermes advised caution, for even there the goddess would be treacherous. She would take his manhood unless he had her swear by the names of the gods that she would not.

Odysseus followed Hermes's advice, freeing his men and then remained on the island for one year, feasting and drinking wine. According to Homer, Circe suggested two alternative routes to Odysseus to return to Ithaca: toward Planctae, the "Wandering Rocks", or passing between the dangerous Scylla and the whirlpool-like Charybdis, conventionally identified with the Strait of Messina. She also advised Odysseus to go to the Underworld and gave him directions.

Or do you have other suggestion?

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posted August 15, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes he resisted, after a 5 year long affair with her, which also resulted in a son between him and circe.

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Ooops I stand corrected then

He must have been drunk or something, they say he drank non-stop on the island

Then what could it mean, Circe/Odysseus contacts?

posted August 15, 2014 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
yes, but the intepretation and perception of quid pro quo is based on you then

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That's exactly what I meant

To be honest, Enneline, all Greek Gods were total ***** , so just by all our aspects, we're all slu.tty

I guess Ulysses is a symbol of faithfulness to the Greeks because he DID return to his wife hahahahaha this is faithfulness by Greek standards, we can't judge him

But you are right, it would be fun to check Zeus, the ultimate let's say "naughty" god

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posted August 15, 2014 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have Circe conjunct Jupiter. Does that mean I'd be an irresitible seductress?

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Yes, a Queen seductress.
Your Penelope conjunct my Odysseus/Ulysses, how cool is that?

posted August 15, 2014 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
My Zeus is square Vesta-Hestia, oops

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Aha.... The crack in your loyalty armor. My Zeus conjuncts my Jupiter exact opp Sun/Venus conjunct Juno. His Zeus also conjuncts his Jupiter It conjunct my Ceres opp my Venus.

posted August 15, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes, a Queen seductress.
Your Penelope conjunct my Odysseus/Ulysses, how cool is that?

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So you really are turning into a lesbian for me?

posted August 15, 2014 04:17 PM            

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So you really are turning into a lesbian for me?

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Wait for me, Penelope! I must find my Circe and live out my Karma then I'll come back to you.

posted August 15, 2014 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I do love Circe, too But she does not do anything in my Chart except a wide (4 degrees) to my moon and quadronoviles my sun

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How about aspects to other asteroids? Spiritual, powerful ones.

posted August 15, 2014 04:24 PM            

So my Circe conjuncts his Moon trine his Sun and my DSC/Saturn and all the other aspects.

His Circe is also in Scorpio, widely conjunct his Moon, it conjuncts my Vesta (1)

No connection between Circe and Odysseus/Ulysses in natal/synastry, but Circe opp Ulysses/Odysseus in the Composite.

posted August 15, 2014 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ooops I stand corrected then

He must have been drunk or something, they say he drank non-stop on the island

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Circe bewitched him, she's a trial to his love for his family/wife. And at that time men drop babies everywhere they went.

Leeloo, I think Zeus in your chart has lovely connections, just a feeling ^^.

posted August 15, 2014 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wow, I do have Circe conjunct MC, thanks, Tulipe. I'm a witch! hehehe

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[B}So my Circe conjuncts his Moon trine his Sun and my DSC/Saturn and all the other aspects.[/B]

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His Circe is also in Scorpio, widely conjunct his Moon, it conjuncts my Vesta (1)

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No connection between Circe and Odysseus/Ulysses in natal/synastry, but Circe opp Ulysses/Odysseus in the Composite.

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