posted August 31, 2014 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
My boyfriend has Venus between Ulysses and Odysseus, she conjuncts both. I am thinking this could mean one of two things. Either there will be one and only one in his life he shall devote himself to, or that he is a wanderer and in love with the idea of love.

But what is interesting to note is that Odysseus/Ulysses traveled long and hard for his love. With my boyfriend he went homeless in Texas and hitchhiked all the way to my state not expecting to find me, may-hap his soul wanted to? And this is why he was traveling?

Does anyone have an insight?

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Good description, WW. He does have an ideal in love with this placement, wanderer or not. But you must also check his Penelope (aspects to yours) and at least his Vesta (natal aspects, aspects to yours, composite aspects) and Juno connected to faithfulness markers (the same) These are very important.

posted August 31, 2014 08:41 AM            

Second of all, almost ready to do the rest of your chart.

And thirdly. He has Penelope in Aries in his AC. It makes no aspect to his Ulysses/Odysseus what would that mean?

Also his Vesta makes no aspects to any of my planets, but falls in my fifth house in Leo.

His Ulysses/Odysseus makes no aspect to my Penelope, nor my Vesta. But they do fall into my seventh. With his Ulysses conjunct my DC.

posted August 31, 2014 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Hey Leeloo first of all thanks for answering.

Second of all, almost ready to do the rest of your chart.

And thirdly. He has Penelope in Aries in his AC. It makes no aspect to his Ulysses/Odysseus what would that mean?

Also his Vesta makes no aspects to any of my planets, but falls in my fifth house in Leo.

His Ulysses/Odysseus makes no aspect to my Penelope, nor my Vesta. But they do fall into my seventh. With his Ulysses conjunct my DC.

Do you think he can possibly be faithful to me based on this?

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Penelope conjunct ASC and his Ulysses on your DSC is not bad

posted September 02, 2014 07:37 AM            

I will try to post the chart directly,

posted September 02, 2014 09:01 AM            

You can try and list the aspects. Look at the composite too.

posted September 03, 2014 05:38 PM            

Admetos 85030
Alkeste 124

Alcestis (Ἄλκηστις is a princess in Greek mythology, known for her love of her husband. Her story was popularised in Euripides's tragedy Alcestis. She was the daughter of Pelias, king of Iolcus, and either Anaxibia or Phylomache.

In the story, many suitors appeared before King Pelias, her father, when she became of age to marry. It was declared she would marry the first man to yoke a lion and a boar (or a bear in some cases) to a chariot. The man who would do this, King Admetus, was helped by Apollo, who had been banished from Olympus for 9 years to serve as a shepherd to Admetus. With Apollo's help, Admetus completed the king's task, and was allowed to marry Alcestis. After the wedding, Admetus forgot to make the required sacrifice to Artemis, and found his bed full of snakes.

Apollo again helped the newly wed king, this time by making the Fates drunk, extracting from them a promise that if anyone would want to die instead of Admetus, they would allow it. Since no one volunteered, not even his elderly parents, Alcestis stepped forth. Shortly after, Heracles rescued Alcestis from Hades, as a token of appreciation for the hospitality of Admetus. Admetus and Alcestis had a son, Eumelus, a participant in the siege of Troy, and a daughter, Perimele.

Milton's famous sonnet, "Methought I Saw My Late Espoused Saint," alludes to the myth, with the speaker of the poem dreaming of his dead wife being brought to him "like Alcestis". In his poem "Past Ruin'd Ilion", English writer and poet Walter Savage Landor (1775-1864) wrote the line "Alcestis rises from the shades" as having a double meaning, evoking her rise from Hades while demonstrating the ability of enduring poetry to give her vitality, drawing her into the light from the shadows of historical oblivion.

What does it do in your charts?

In synastry, my Alkeste (in 12th, near ASC) trines his Admetos (0)

Both Admetos and Alkeste on both sides are very aspected with planets.

In the Composite, Alkeste trines Union (0)
Davison Alkeste quincunx Amor (0) sextile Moon (2) trines Valentine (2) square Uranus (0).

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posted September 04, 2014 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Does having an asteroid pair in the same sign in synastry count?

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because Alkeste is such a strong loyalty/self-sacrifice for the beloved symbol, I should have checked it first in the natals:

My Alkeste is in the 12th, 5 drg from the ASC, in Capricorn. Although Capricorn is a practical/sometimes opportunistic sign, it is definitely loyal and the position in the 12th could suggest a strong potential for self-sacrifice.

A cardinal Cross: Alkeste/opp Saturn square Mercury/opp Alma. Well, I guess I'm definitely a loyal soul lol

Star of David: Alkeste trine IC trine Aphrodite (Sun/Venus mdp) The other trine: MC/Vesta - Juno/Jupiter-Saturn

Alkeste semisextile NN/POF and Lilith exact, quincunx Moon.

Yep. My Alkeste is off the charts. If you need someone to go to hell for you...

Him:

Alkeste also in Cap, in the 4th it suggests loyalty and self-sacrifice for the close ones, for family and close friends. Long-term loyalty strong, being in Cap.

Alkeste trine Amor (0) - a nice one, it makes a GT with my Venus
Alkeste sextile Alma (1)
Alkeste semisextile Venus (1) and Neptune (0)
Alkeste square Cupido (1) and Pluto (3)
They also suggest loyalty is connected to very strong feelings, to being in love.

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posted February 19, 2016 05:15 PM            

Saturn square Moon (mine, his)
Saturn conjunct Ascendant (his, mine)

posted February 19, 2016 05:29 PM            

His Gemini rising, Aries Sun/Moon, Taurus Venus Mars chart ruler Mercury accounts for much of this. And Jupiter ruling the descendant, conjunct descendant and Uranus...

But there are strong indicators in his chart of his ability and propensity to be very genuinely loyal and in love so completely. Boda conjunct Venus conjunct Angel conjunct Chiron... I mean there's a whole slew of stuff pointing to his intense--sincere! --romanticism and his capacity for True Love.

He has Vesta conjunct his Sun after all. (I have Vesta conjunct my ascendant)

He is capable of being in True Love with more than one person at once--almost. And that's where he can struggle. He gets confused. Sun peregrine. But i think he's developing a relationship with me which feels healthy and like.. true love.. and practical real life love... a mature healthy deep love which can be sustained because it's real.. ramble ramble. I hope so anyway. I also just live for today...

posted February 19, 2016 05:38 PM            

conjunct my Amor/Fides... etc etc etc...

posted February 19, 2016 07:17 PM            

My Penelope trines his Saturn 2 degree
His libra Vesta is on my Venus/anti-Vertex 0-2 degree
My virgo Hestia virgo@14 and Juno virgo@12 are on his MC virgo@15
His Mars virgo@19
My Moon virgo@18