posted August 16, 2014 09:03 AM            

Sigyn (3631), Norse Goddess of Fidelity, symbol of loyalty/faithfulness, wife of Loki

Balder (4059) Norse God of innocence, beauty, love, devotion, loyalty, rebirth

and of course, Hera (103), the counterpart of Juno...we forgot about her.

posted August 16, 2014 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I look at this order of planets in the houses. For example, my 7th house starts with Saturn on DSC, then Cupido conjunct DSC, then Moon Priapus Amor and Venus is the last on the 8th cusp. Venus is like a key coming from the 7th and opening the 8th. This could mean (and it does) my 1st approach on relationships (choosing a partner) is Saturnian (I need time, I evaluate, test etc.) Then Cupido there, across the DSC (Saturn is in the 6th) shows I'm ready to enter a relationship only when in love. Then, whilst in the relationship, the Lunar/Priapus part is the first one being activated (needs, caring, emotions etc.) and only after a while Venus comes in full blow.

But planets on a house cusp also show that house is "opened" by that planet: which means the most important thing in this life about that house or several important events related to that house will be connected to that planetary energy. This could be triggered directly (into the house) or indirectly, by transits or progressions of that planet.

Another thing I noticed: planets in the first part-related to youth/first part of life, planets in the last part - showing later events. I noticed for instance, Robin Williams had the Mars/Uranus conjunction late in the 8th house, which suggests a possible violent, sudden death (Mars/Uranus in 8th) during older age.

However, this is not proven, it's more like fortune-telling, old astrology.

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I can apply it to my H3, ie: I have Moon close to the cusp from H2, then in H3 Uranus and then Neptune retro, and I feel this is the order which I use in communication and writing.

posted August 16, 2014 09:22 AM            

Balder (Leo, 2nd house) conjuncts my Mercury/Jupiter conj in Leo at the end of 1st house.

Sygin in Aries in 10th house right between my mc and my moon and Eris & Ceres.

Hera in Pisces in 9th house and conjuncts Pholus and semisextiles my moon in aries in the 10th

posted August 16, 2014 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

That's really interesting, I can understand better now. I think I agree with this house-order theory.

I can apply it to my H3, ie: I have Moon close to the cusp from H2, then in H3 Uranus and then Neptune retro, and I feel this is the order which I use in communication and writing.

Thank you, I feel I just learned something important!

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You're welcome! I'm glad to hear it seems to fit.

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posted August 16, 2014 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting. In this case, I think we should consider Circe separately in synastry and the composite. I'm thinking like this:

Circe in a woman's chart represents a point where she can become this sort of sexual/lustful "spell" for a man, one who bewitches him sexually, juts like Circe did with Oysses.

Of course in the natal, a prominent Circe in a woman's chart would show she can become this sort of "spell" for a man: she is alluring and attractive this way. Like you, Ceri, with your Circe conjunct Sun wow! It doesn't mean those who don't have Circe prominent are less alluring, because they may have other markers for that like Lilith, Cupido, Aphrodite etc. (Like your Cupido aspects, Enneline )

Perhaps Circe connected to a certain planet in a woman's natal shows what is her strongest appeal in this respect, her erotic "spell". Like your Jupiter, Cappy (which could mean many things: your radiance, your sense of humor, your height or any other Jupiterian physical traits, your happy nature or lust for life, your generosity - all this could enhance your sexual allure for a partner - with them, you could make a man "drunk" with lust for you).

In a man's natal chart, Circe will, of course, be the woman who is a Circe for him, who enchants him, who is this kind of temptation, who is a sexual spell for him and could make him a "prisoner" in this respect.

In synastry, the connection would show this type of dynamics and in the composite, a direct contact between Ulysses/Odysseus and Circe or any other significant Circe contact (like on angle, connected to Sun or Mars Venus etc.) probably shows this relationship indicates this type of sexual "intoxication" spell. This, of course, for good or bad.

There is some sort of similarity with Lilith then. But Circe is too awesome as an enchantress and sexual witch to be reduced to the symbol of a simple trial. So I guess it's an asteroid similar in energy with Lilith, Aphrodite, Lust, Sappho etc.

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I agree with your delineation!

Actually I have a lineup on 27-28 Sagittarius

CIRCE 27.37 Sagittarius
REIKI 27.35 Sagittarius
SEKHMET 27.27 sagittarius
TESLA 27.04 Sagittarius

The connection to Reiki has long been a fascinating one to m. Of course Sekhmet is an Egyptian Goddess and Tesla, well we all know Tesla, dont´we?

I actually have CAESAR and ROBINHOOD on 26 Sagittarius then,

and on 25-26 Sagittarius

Sun: 25.56 Sagittarius
Mercury: 25.03 Sagittarius
NOFRETETE 25.11 Sagittarius

(along with MERLIN on 24 Sag and KLEOPATRA on 22.55 Sag - it just feels bizarre, to have Caesar and Kleopatra so close to each other in my chart, and actually configured around my sun-MErcury. orb between Caesar and Kleo is 3°10 - in fact my very first musical crush ever has REIKI-SEKHMET-MERLIn conjunct as well like I have, on 0-1 Aries; and KLEO-CAESAR exact on 22 Aries with TESLA on 25 Aries)

Also I always thought it was intriguing to check my Draco chart;

as my Dr LILITH (ast) is on 26.28 Sag, and my Dr HEKATE on 27.52 Sagittarius.

As you can see the witches are having a party on these degrees in my chart, so close to my Sun and the Galactic Centre.

btw I think Merlin and Tesla are an asteroid pair like Echnaton and HOrus or Spirit and Santorini, in that they are moving in step with each other, never really far from each other.

posted August 16, 2014 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
thank you, LeeLoo!
What about you?

Balder (Leo, 2nd house) conjuncts my Mercury/Jupiter conj in Leo at the end of 1st house.

Sygin in Aries in 10th house right between my mc and my moon and Eris & Ceres.

Hera in Pisces in 9th house and conjuncts Pholus and semisextiles my moon in aries in the 10th

Btw: I also looked for Helena. You know...the trojan war
One version claims that she was kidnapped and another says that she felt in love with Paris and that she left her husband and her home to be with Paris. Obviously she was selfish enough to risk and watch a war caused by that
So Helena could indicate the selfish, unfaithful beauty as well as a beauty that makes men fighting over her?!

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So those two make you even more faithful.

I think Helena is an asteroid showing beauty: being beautiful enough to start a war I'm not sure Helen of Troy was guilty in any way. She was considered the most beautiful woman in the world and Aphrodite offered her as a price for Paris if he chose her out of the three goddesses. So in a way, she was a victim of Aphrodite's plot.

Another account says Helen and Paris really fell in love. So she can also be a symbol for the power of love, if we take this version into account.

It has, however, a connotation related to the Apple of Discord.

My Helena conjuncts my Sun exact trines ASC and IC, sextiles MC and DSC/Saturn.

His Helena makes no significant aspects in his chart, but it opposes my Psyche, sextiles my Eros and Mars and it is falling in my 7th house.

posted August 16, 2014 10:28 AM            

His Balder is falling in my 7th and it opposes his Venus, which means it makes a Star of David with his Venus/Mars/Pluto/Neptune Kite, and his Cupido. I think this is nice!

My Sigyn is conjunct Eros/Ulysses/Odysseus, so it has the same aspects I mentioned with them. Quite faithful. It is in my 4th and it conjuncts his Mars.

His Sigyn is in his 7th, near DSC, it opposes my Mars/Pluto, sextiles his Venus and Mars, part of the same STar, so it is a Sigyn/Mars DW, this is a good omen for sexual fidelity.

Our Heras are conjunct in Capricorn, mine is in the 12th -what do you think it means? - and his in his 4th. The Hera conjunction sextile his Zeus, trine my Venus.

In the composite, Balder opp Juno exact, squares ASC/DSC a bit wide (4), sextile Vesta/Uranus

Hera conjunct POF (1) opp Saturn/Amor makes a lot of aspects including with Sygin.

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posted August 16, 2014 10:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree with your delineation!

Actually I have a lineup on 27-28 Sagittarius

CIRCE 27.37 Sagittarius
REIKI 27.35 Sagittarius
SEKHMET 27.27 sagittarius
TESLA 27.04 Sagittarius

The connection to Reiki has long been a fascinating one to m. Of course Sekhmet is an Egyptian Goddess and Tesla, well we all know Tesla, dont´we?

I actually have CAESAR and ROBINHOOD on 26 Sagittarius then,

and on 25-26 Sagittarius

Sun: 25.56 Sagittarius
Mercury: 25.03 Sagittarius
NOFRETETE 25.11 Sagittarius

(along with MERLIN on 24 Sag and KLEOPATRA on 22.55 Sag - it just feels bizarre, to have Caesar and Kleopatra so close to each other in my chart, and actually configured around my sun-MErcury. orb between Caesar and Kleo is 3°10 - in fact my very first musical crush ever has REIKI-SEKHMET-MERLIn conjunct as well like I have, on 0-1 Aries; and KLEO-CAESAR exact on 22 Aries with TESLA on 25 Aries)

Also I always thought it was intriguing to check my Draco chart;

as my Dr LILITH (ast) is on 26.28 Sag, and my Dr HEKATE on 27.52 Sagittarius.

As you can see the witches are having a party on these degrees in my chart, so close to my Sun and the Galactic Centre.

btw I think Merlin and Tesla are an asteroid pair like Echnaton and HOrus or Spirit and Santorini, in that they are moving in step with each other, never really far from each other.

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Wow, you have a huge asteroid cluster around your Sun. I'm beginning to think that planet - in this case the Sun - or that house (like in the case of Pluto Man who has an 8th house full of Vedic/kundalini asteroids) is very powerful in the chart. For you, it is already a cluster of planets there, your ASC too, so it is like a huge vortex. lol

I think for you, all those show you're a witch
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posted August 16, 2014 10:51 AM            

In my chart, Circe conjunct MC (2) in Scorpio 10th. Squares Moon/Lilith. Trines Jupiter and Saturn/DSC, sextile ASC and Sun.

His Circe is also in Scorpio, 2nd house. It opposes his Amor (1) squares his Venus/Juno/my Lilith and my Moon, trines his Alma, sextiles my Venus.

His Circe conjuncts my Vesta (1), my Circe conjuncts his Moon (1) trines his Sun and my Saturn/Jupiter.

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posted August 16, 2014 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Boo!
I just realized I have Circe conjunct Hekate. Does that mean I'm an archwitch?

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posted August 16, 2014 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Wait, they're all retro...a retarded witch

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LOL not necessarily...more like she takes more time and does the spell over and over again...for maximum results

posted August 16, 2014 11:13 AM            

Friendship: PHILIA and AMICITIA
Lastingness: CONSTANTIA and AETERNITAS
Faithfulness: FIDES and FIDUCIA
Pleasure and Desire: VENUSIA and DESIDERATA
Devotion / Adoration: DEVOTA and ADOREA

I thought it was time for a new round in asteroidits.

HEre are some asteroids I just recently been thinking of:

Amicitia: 367
Constantia: 315
Devota: 1328
Elektra: 130
Sparks: 15129
Clemence: 1919
Clementina: 252 (softness, gentleness)
Compassion: 8990
Charis: 627
Felicitas: 109

Fides: 37
Fidelio: 524
Fiducia: 380
Fraternitas: 309
Gratia: 424 (means: Thank or also welcome)
Patria: 1347 (home - country)
Philia: 280 (friendship love, mutual love)
Semper: 6353 (always)
Aeternitas: 446 (eternity)
Desiderata: 344

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202633.html

posted August 16, 2014 11:15 AM            

Btw, C. has Hekate conjunct Jupiter exact trine Circe, do you think he's one of ours too? Or maybe it means a certain witch keeps an eye on him? hihi

posted August 16, 2014 11:17 AM            

LeeLoo, I need time to read that

Cappy, no, you are a luring witch. You don't show your witchy side to many people = retrograde. You seem to lurke in every guise

posted August 16, 2014 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So those two make you even more faithful.

I think Helena is an asteroid showing beauty: being beautiful enough to start a war I'm not sure Helen of Troy was guilty in any way. She was considered the most beautiful woman in the world and Aphrodite offered her as a price for Paris if he chose her out of the three goddesses. So in a way, she was a victim of Aphrodite's plot.

Another account says Helen and Paris really fell in love. So she can also be a symbol for the power of love, if we take this version into account.

It has, however, a connotation related to the Apple of Discord.

My Helena conjuncts my Sun exact trines ASC and IC, sextiles MC and DSC/Saturn.

His Helena makes no significant aspects in his chart, but it opposes my Psyche, sextiles my Eros and Mars and it is falling in my 7th house.

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Wow, have you ever noticed that you seem to have some kind of magnificent attraction on 2 men and/or co-workers/bosses?

posted August 16, 2014 11:20 AM            

Are there more "witch" asteroids? Medea, I think?

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Wait, they're all retro...a retarded witch

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posted August 16, 2014 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I think for you, all those show you're a witch

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I know

I find it also hilarious, I have

SEKHMET conjunct Sun
UBASTI conjunct Moon
(two manifestations of the same Egyptian Goddess, the cat/lion-goddess)

CIRCE conjunct Sun
KALYPSO conjunct Moon exact
(both goddesses connected to Odysseus, though Kalypso actualy imprisoned him, trying to force him to marry her; Circe was more non-posessive)

I agree with you on the clustering, too

BTW Mr Sag`s CIRCE is not doing too much, being placed on 00 Aquarius; widely squrae his VESTA on almost 3 Taurus. Oh also widely conj. his Venus (4 degrees are really pushing it for an asteroid though; conj. ISHTAR by 2 degrees, which is the bridge from his Venus to CIRCE)) and loosely opposing his JUNO (3 degrees). Quinkunx his NN exact.

Interestingly his CIRCE opposes my PRIAPUS on 00 Leo exact, squaring my Uranus on 1 Scorpio, which oppese his VESTA on 3 Taurus.

Also his CIRCE falls onto the composite ASC of 1 Aquarius.

It seems like there is a certain temptation of an Aquarius-nature. Actually his ex-girlfriend (longterm) had a huge stellium in Aquarius in his 12th house.

He also has SAPPHO in aquarius (13 degrees) and PSYCHE (25 degrees) and Pallas on 24 Aquarius. of course not conjunct, but as you can see Sappho falls onto the midpoint of his Circe and Psyche.

I just notice that cause I have soemthing similiar thought with different asteroids.

I have Pallas on 10 Aquarius, Moon-Kalypso on 17 Aquarius, Psyche and mean Lilith on 24 Aquarius, as you can see for me it is Moon-Kalypso on the midpoint of the other ones.

In the composite we have CIRCE on 13 Capricorn, PROSERPINA on 14 Capricorn, Venus on 16 Capricorn in 12th house,
squrae Pluto on 15 Libra in 8th house, near the nodal axis
trine EROS on 14 Taurus right on the IC
sextile Uranus on 12 Scorpio near the MC

We also have SALOME on 19 Capricorn, on the exact midpoint of Venus on 16 Capricorn and Moon on 22 Capricron (It is configured with some manifestation of Jesus-Mary-conjunction right there).

HELENA is on 22 Scorpio closely/ exactly conjunct the VALENTINE-LUST-ANGEL-DNAconjunction there elevated in the 10th house, I think they might be most elevated asteroids, though Uranus is of course the elevated planet.

naturally opposing JUNO on 22 Taurus, trine ISIS_CERES on 24 Pisces, and sextile Moon on 22 Capricorn.

and trine ASTARTE on 24 Cancer

(so a GT of HELENA, ASTARTE and ISIS. LOL)

with Moon being opposite ASTARTE, and JUNO being opposite HELENA.

Speaking of seduction-asteroids (female):

Aphrodite: 1388
AStarte: 672
Ishtar: 7088
(Astarte being Phoenician, Ishtar babylonian form of Aphrodite, though more powerful as the Greek version; goddess of love, sex, fertility and war; not the marrying or faithful kind though)

Sappho 80
(poetess, very passionate and sexual; seductive through refined passion, but not seducing to just seduce; expressing passions through art).

Helena 101

Salome 562 (remember the dance, that cost John his head?)

Sirene 1009

Lilith 1181 (possibly, but a dark twist)

posted August 16, 2014 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You're both witcheeeez! And he won't be able to hide it for long

Btw, C. has Hekate conjunct Jupiter exact trine Circe, do you think he's one of ours too? Or maybe it means a certain witch keeps an eye on him? hihi

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It means you're soulmates! Same type of witchcraft

posted August 16, 2014 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:

My Helena conjuncts my IC in Libra along with Pluto, Odysseus and that Ulysses. Quite contradictive

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You lure them into your house with your beauty and they never get out

posted August 16, 2014 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

His Circe conjuncts my Vesta (1), my Circe conjuncts his Moon (1) trines his Sun and my Saturn/Jupiter.

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How would you interprete that?