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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 17, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
as for the composite have a look yourself


Devota conjunct Pluto exact looks very intense and the 11th house theme makes this relationship very dreamy and idealistic.

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posted August 17, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my PHILIA:
opposes his ULYSSES Exact
sextile his KAMA exact
trine his DEVOTA


my AMICITIA:
conjunct his CONSTANTIA
opposite his CIRCE
opposite his ISHTAR
square his VESTA


my CONSTANTIA
conjunct his Neptune-Helena-DNA exact


my AETERNITAS:
opposite his ADOREA
square his DEVOTA
square his KAMA (on my Juno)

trine his FIDES (on my Moon, and also trine my Kama of courese)


my DEVOTA-DESIDERATA
trine his KAMA
sextile his DEVOTA exact


my ADOREA
trine his AMOR (exact)-Mars-Jupiter
trine his Chiron- Philia exact
sextile his VENUSIA-EROS-my name


my LIEBE
square his NN
square his Priapus (on his SN)
square his true BML (on his NN)
(my Liebe somehow gets into that forcefield of his BML-Priapus-opposition. lol)

trine his CONSTANTIA
sextile his CIRCE


Adorea to his planets is so wonderful, dreamy, healing, erotic too.


Liebe is very strong and it is interesting it's so strong for you two, they say asteroids in connection to our life path (origin) usually come up stronger.

How do you see Kama in this context?

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posted August 17, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
his PHILIA

trine my Venus-Isis-Osiris-Adorea


his AMICITIA
conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex
opposite my EROS
square my Chiron
square my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA-KASSANDRA


his AETERNITAS
opp. my Sun/Moon-mp
conjunct my Vertex and EROS
widely conj. my Saturn (3 degrees)
square my Chiron
square my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA-KASSANDRA

trine my ANTEROS-PENELOPE right on his VALENTINE-ODYSSEUS
widely trine my jUNO (3 degrees)


his CONSTANTIA
conjunct my Priapus-AMICITIA
square my Uranus

trine my LIEBE-MEDEA-AMOR
trine my DEJANIRA-IC

his DEVOTA:
sextile my Saturn
opposite my JUNO
sextile my DESIDERATA-DEVOTA


his VENUSIA
conjunct my Pholus, ISHTAR- CERES-Jupiter
sextile my Venus-Isis-Osiris-Adorea
square my ASC-Neptune-NN
opposite my Hekate-Lilith


his DESIDERATA
conj. my PALLAS
trine my KAALI-ASTARTE-SN
trine my APHRODITE-VENUSIA-Pluto


his ADOREA
opposite my KARMA


his LIEBE-Moon-MC:
conjunct my Sun-Mercury-Circe-Reiki lol
also conjunct my Vesta

also sextiles my true BML exact!


I love the aspects to your Saturn, his Aeternitas , Liebe/Vesta/Sun and his Desiderata shows he would love your intelligence, your Pallas side.

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posted August 17, 2014 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote



Constantia conjunct Moon exact
Devota on the 8th house cusp
Adorea conjunct Mercury exact
Liebe conjunct Mars


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posted August 17, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:



Constantia conjunct Moon exact - your uberstable emotional "you"
Devota on the 8th house cusp - devoted to everything in your 8th
Adorea conjunct Mercury exact - lover of intelligence, your adorable intelligence
Liebe conjunct Mars - no love without sex


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posted August 17, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish Btw, Liebe is retarded.

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posted August 17, 2014 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have something against retrogrades?

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posted August 17, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:



Constantia conjunct Moon exact
Devota on the 8th house cusp
Adorea conjunct Mercury exact
Liebe conjunct Mars


Okay, that's a simple Interpretation:

you feel constant, enduring when you feel
you really have to be into someone before you give yourself away in a sexual manner
you need to love how the other talks
you need to love to have sex

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posted August 17, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Also, worth checking, not EXACTLY our theme, but supporting it:

58 CONCORDIA
40 HARMONIA
109 FELICITAS

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posted August 17, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Adorea to his planets is so wonderful, dreamy, healing, erotic too.


Liebe is very strong and it is interesting it's so strong for you two, they say asteroids in connection to our life path (origin) usually come up stronger.

How do you see Kama in this context?



No clue about KAMA.

However BEROLINA (Berlin) is on 20 Libra exactly on my DNA and of course part of the Grand Trine as well.

I actually looked up some more states and cities in Germany, especially those that are of relevance to us.

HESSEN is on almost 9 Sag in my chart.
(Hessen is the state our first meeting took place, and our first meeting chart has an ASC on 9 Sag coincidentally. ).


ALEMANNIA (Germany) on 13 Sag, widely opp. my KARMA, but not that important


TEUTONIA (Germany) on 9 Aquarius, right on my Pallas. lol


GERMANIA itself is on 17 Aquarius, exact on my Moon (and his FIDES. lol), and trine my KARMA, quinkunx my Saturn.

Yes it seems that I am most definitely born here for karmic reasons (Draco Germania-Moon is conjunct my DESC exact and on my SN by 3 degrees, too)


WESTPHALIA is the state we are living in currently (well Northrine-westphalia, but I did not find this asteroid) and it is on 3 Pisces in 3rd house in my chart. conjunct his SN interestingly. and Priapus. and my family name in my own chart.


For some reason I mistakenly typed in the number for OSTARIA, no clue why, have to research it, but it falls onto 11 PIsces EXACT on my Jupiter, opposing his Mars-Jupiter-Amor.


ESSEN is the name of my "city-of-destiny", for some reason fated events as it seems, or whirlwind-of-destiny-occasion seem to take place there or close to it.

it is on 21 Aries in my chart conj. Chiron, opposing DNA and BEROLINA (the other very significant city in my past), squaring Vertex, Eros, Sun/Moon-mp, oh and of cousre opposing HIS Pluto-ANTEROS.


then ther eis TEUTOBURGER WALD - a forrest, in which the small medieval town Tecklenburg is located, another very important town for us, for me definitely, I have been visiting it for several years because of the open air festival there, but only discovered him because of his engagement there, and even when I first put a foot there, it felt like coming, maybe not home, but as if I have been there before, and for some reason I am a different person there, as it seems, or people react to be me differently. Or I am just acting differently there.

the asteroid is on 16 Virgo, exact sextile my Saturn, quinkunx my Moon and Germania, opposing my Juno.
Draco Teutoburger Wald is right on my natal Venus.

For him BEROLINA is on 23 Pisces, RIGHT on his Pholus and ASC. He had his big breakthrough so to speak, moving to Berlin (he played D `Artagnan), and he met the girlfriend he had been having the most longterm relationship with (I think 7 years); Berolina trines his Uranus, 12th house ruler exact.

TEUTOBURGERWALD is on 29 Aries for him, opposing my Uranus. lol


WESTPHALIA and ESSEN are EXACT conjunct on 2 Leo in 5th house, and well I think his AMICITIA and my CONSTANTIA are there as well, plus my Priapus on 00 Leo. Oh and it falls of course onto composite DESC on 01 Leo.
it was actually in Essen or a city nearby, that he approached me during a concert, right on the month when pr Sun was conjunct our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius exact.

his OSTARIA on 11 Libra in 7th, conj. my Aphrodite and Pluto. Hm I think I really should investigate that Ostaria-thing.


his GERMANIA on 27 Cap conj his Venus
his TEUTONIA on 00 aqua conj his Circe

his HESSEN on 16 Aquarius right on my natal Moon and his FIDES

and my HESSEN was conjunct his DESC-ruler Mercury, and Musa. lol

(no wonder we met in Hessen right?)


Let us see it for the composite:

GERMANIA 7 Aquarius in 1st opposing KARMA on 9 Leo in 7th


TEUTONIA on 19 Pisces
sextile
WESTPHALIA on 18 Taurus on IC
quinkunx
NN/AMOR/CUPIDO/CAMELOT on 20 Libra. lol

ESSEN on 12 Gemini in 5th conjunct Jupiter,
quinkunx chartruler Uranus exactly.
and actualy this is the apex of a Yod of

Uranus 12 Scorpio
HESSEN 12 Cap 12th house (right on CIRCE. lol)
quinkunx
'ESSEN 12 Gemini

TEUTOBURGER Wald on 23 Scorpio in 10th, right on LUST/VALENTINE/ANGEL/DNA; opposing Juno.


OSTARIA on 26 Sag in 11th EXACT on the Sun - NOW it is getting creepy with the Ostaria thing


BEROLINA and ALEMANNIA conjunct on 7 and 9 Cap in 12th (9 Cap being our composite Sun/moon-mp)


interesting

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posted August 17, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah yes I remember, she is the goddess of the dawn (easter), of the spring equinox.
goddess of fertility

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posted August 17, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
424 is Gratia, did not find fidelity.

LOL FELICITAS is on 6 Cap, exact on my Venus and of course also conj. Adorea. lol


HARMONIA on 19 Leo exact on my CUPIDO, and trine his CUPIDO-Neptune, and my Chiron


CONCORDIA on 25 Leo, trine our Sun-Moon-stellium

his CONCORDIA on 17 Libra, trine my Moon, his Fides and trine my Karma

his HARMONIA on 3 Cap, right between my Vesta (1 Cap) and my Venus (6 Cap)


composite has

FELICITAS conjunct Moon, trine Juno, trine CONCORDIA (exact Grand Trine in earth signs and water houses)


HARMONIA conj. mars by 3 degrees, sextile Sun exact


actually in davison HARMONIA falls onto our Venus-Mars-conjunction in Taurus. lol
trine FELICITAS

the FELICITAS-Venus trine is exact, as is the mars-HARMONIA conjunction.

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posted August 17, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
ah yes I remember, she is the goddess of the dawn (easter), of the spring equinox.
goddess of fertility

You mean Kama? Is it 1387? I thought it was the Indian God of Sex (Kama Sutra)?

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posted August 17, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oops...it looks like there's an asteroid called FIDELITY (424).

Also, worth checking, not EXACTLY our theme, but supporting it:

58 CONCORDIA
40 HARMONIA
109 FELICITAS


424 is Gratia. And I found no Fidelity. There's Fidelio.

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posted August 17, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
424 is Gratia. And I found no Fidelity.


All right then, it was a lindaland post.

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posted August 17, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No clue about KAMA.

However BEROLINA (Berlin) is on 20 Libra exactly on my DNA and of course part of the Grand Trine as well.

I actually looked up some more states and cities in Germany, especially those that are of relevance to us.

HESSEN is on almost 9 Sag in my chart.
(Hessen is the state our first meeting took place, and our first meeting chart has an ASC on 9 Sag coincidentally. ).


ALEMANNIA (Germany) on 13 Sag, widely opp. my KARMA, but not that important


TEUTONIA (Germany) on 9 Aquarius, right on my Pallas. lol


GERMANIA itself is on 17 Aquarius, exact on my Moon (and his FIDES. lol), and trine my KARMA, quinkunx my Saturn.

Yes it seems that I am most definitely born here for karmic reasons (Draco Germania-Moon is conjunct my DESC exact and on my SN by 3 degrees, too)


WESTPHALIA is the state we are living in currently (well Northrine-westphalia, but I did not find this asteroid) and it is on 3 Pisces in 3rd house in my chart. conjunct his SN interestingly. and Priapus. and my family name in my own chart.


For some reason I mistakenly typed in the number for OSTARIA, no clue why, have to research it, but it falls onto 11 PIsces EXACT on my Jupiter, opposing his Mars-Jupiter-Amor.


ESSEN is the name of my "city-of-destiny", for some reason fated events as it seems, or whirlwind-of-destiny-occasion seem to take place there or close to it.

it is on 21 Aries in my chart conj. Chiron, opposing DNA and BEROLINA (the other very significant city in my past), squaring Vertex, Eros, Sun/Moon-mp, oh and of cousre opposing HIS Pluto-ANTEROS.


then ther eis TEUTOBURGER WALD - a forrest, in which the small medieval town Tecklenburg is located, another very important town for us, for me definitely, I have been visiting it for several years because of the open air festival there, but only discovered him because of his engagement there, and even when I first put a foot there, it felt like coming, maybe not home, but as if I have been there before, and for some reason I am a different person there, as it seems, or people react to be me differently. Or I am just acting differently there.

the asteroid is on 16 Virgo, exact sextile my Saturn, quinkunx my Moon and Germania, opposing my Juno.
Draco Teutoburger Wald is right on my natal Venus.

For him BEROLINA is on 23 Pisces, RIGHT on his Pholus and ASC. He had his big breakthrough so to speak, moving to Berlin (he played D `Artagnan), and he met the girlfriend he had been having the most longterm relationship with (I think 7 years); Berolina trines his Uranus, 12th house ruler exact.

TEUTOBURGERWALD is on 29 Aries for him, opposing my Uranus. lol


WESTPHALIA and ESSEN are EXACT conjunct on 2 Leo in 5th house, and well I think his AMICITIA and my CONSTANTIA are there as well, plus my Priapus on 00 Leo. Oh and it falls of course onto composite DESC on 01 Leo.
it was actually in Essen or a city nearby, that he approached me during a concert, right on the month when pr Sun was conjunct our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius exact.

his OSTARIA on 11 Libra in 7th, conj. my Aphrodite and Pluto. Hm I think I really should investigate that Ostaria-thing.


his GERMANIA on 27 Cap conj his Venus
his TEUTONIA on 00 aqua conj his Circe

his HESSEN on 16 Aquarius right on my natal Moon and his FIDES

and my HESSEN was conjunct his DESC-ruler Mercury, and Musa. lol

(no wonder we met in Hessen right?)


Let us see it for the composite:

GERMANIA 7 Aquarius in 1st opposing KARMA on 9 Leo in 7th


TEUTONIA on 19 Pisces
sextile
WESTPHALIA on 18 Taurus on IC
quinkunx
NN/AMOR/CUPIDO/CAMELOT on 20 Libra. lol

ESSEN on 12 Gemini in 5th conjunct Jupiter,
quinkunx chartruler Uranus exactly.
and actualy this is the apex of a Yod of

Uranus 12 Scorpio
HESSEN 12 Cap 12th house (right on CIRCE. lol)
quinkunx
'ESSEN 12 Gemini

TEUTOBURGER Wald on 23 Scorpio in 10th, right on LUST/VALENTINE/ANGEL/DNA; opposing Juno.


OSTARIA on 26 Sag in 11th EXACT on the Sun - NOW it is getting creepy with the Ostaria thing


BEROLINA and ALEMANNIA conjunct on 7 and 9 Cap in 12th (9 Cap being our composite Sun/moon-mp)


interesting


lol this is almost shocking, Ceri....very impressive! Hessen/Musa for your meeting and DNA/Berlin and Germania on your Moon WOW...but all of them


and this:

it is on 21 Aries in my chart conj. Chiron, opposing DNA and BEROLINA (the other very significant city in my past), squaring Vertex, Eros, Sun/Moon-mp, oh and of cousre opposing HIS Pluto-ANTEROS.

It shows we're born somewhere for an obvious reason I'll check mine too.


What is Ostaria though?

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posted August 17, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

It shows we're born somewhere for an obvious reason I'll check mine too.


More shocking my Berolina-Chiron is right on our composite SN on 20 Aries, and hsi Pluto-Anteros on the NN. lol

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posted August 17, 2014 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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More shocking my Berolina-Chiron is right on our composite SN on 20 Aries, and hsi Pluto-Anteros on the NN. lol

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posted August 17, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are all great aspects, I simply love them.

Originally posted by Ceridwen:


LOL FELICITAS is on 6 Cap, exact on my Venus and of course also conj. Adorea. lol

This is a lovely aspect, you must be and will be happy in love

HARMONIA on 19 Leo exact on my CUPIDO, and trine his CUPIDO-Neptune, and my Chiron

Being in love brings you a state of harmony and the GT is awesome


CONCORDIA on 25 Leo, trine our Sun-Moon-stellium

his CONCORDIA on 17 Libra, trine my Moon, his Fides and trine my Karma

DW here

his HARMONIA on 3 Cap, right between my Vesta (1 Cap) and my Venus (6 Cap)


composite has

FELICITAS conjunct Moon, trine Juno, trine CONCORDIA (exact Grand Trine in earth signs and water houses)

what better aspect can one hope for than Moon/Felicitas, emotional happiness, in smooth aspect with Concordia and Juno? A blessing

HARMONIA conj. mars by 3 degrees, sextile Sun exact

no fighting here, and sexual harmony. A harmonious relationship overall. The sextile is the aspect of harmony and love.

actually in davison HARMONIA falls onto our Venus-Mars-conjunction in Taurus. lol
trine FELICITAS

the FELICITAS-Venus trine is exact, as is the mars-HARMONIA conjunction.


Pure bliss

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posted August 18, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Concordia is in my 7th, opp, Psyche, sextile Mars and Eros, that's interesting.

My Harmonia conjunct Cupido exact and my DSC (3), also in the 7th; it sextiles my Sun

Felicitas conjunct POF and NN exact, numerous aspects.

His Concordia in Taurus 8th, opp his Moon exact, makes a cross with my Moon and Lilith, trines my Sun and ASC, sextile Saturn/DSC and Jupiter/Juno.
His Concordia conjuncts my IC EXACT. I find this aspect VERY nice

His Harmonia is on his 8th cusp exact, it conjuncts my Chiron exact, numerous aspects.

His Felicitas conjuncts my Felicitas a bit wider, on our NN mdp. Trines my Moon and his Chiron. The Grand Trine with Chiron makes two Kites: one with his Vesta in Libra, the other with his Juno/my Lilith in Aqua


All these three asteroids are connected to our luminaries.

Composite:

Felicitas in 1st, on NN/Mercury and Neptune mdp. Felicitas conjunct NN (5) and Neptune (5) - IC ruler, conjunct Avx (2) trine Eros exact, sextile Valentine (1)

The others make a wonderful formation in the 7th: Harmonia conjunct Vx and Cupido and, the best, Sun conjunct Concordia (3) - where Amor and Anteros are too So there's a stellium Composite Sun/Amor/Anteros/Concordia.

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Desdemona! I discovered it when I played the random asteroid game Number 666.

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Checking Kama,

Written by The Editors of Encyclopædia Britannica

Kama, in the mythology of India, the god of love. During the Vedic age (2nd millennium–7th century bce), he personified cosmic desire, or the creative impulse, and was called the firstborn of the primeval Chaos that makes all creation possible. In later periods he is depicted as a handsome youth, attended by heavenly nymphs, who shoots love-producing flower-arrows. His bow is of sugarcane, his bowstring a row of bees. Once directed by the other gods to arouse Shiva’s passion for Parvati, he disturbed the great god’s meditation on a mountaintop. Enraged, Shiva burned him to ashes with the fire of his third eye. Thus, he became Ananga (Sanskrit: “the Bodiless”). Some accounts say Shiva soon relented and restored him to life after the entreaties of Kama’s wife, Rati. Others hold that Kama’s subtle bodiless form renders him even more deftly omnipresent than he would be if constrained by bodily limitation.

The Sanskrit term kama also refers to one of the four proper aims of human life—pleasure and love. A classic textbook on erotic love and human pleasure, the Kama-sutra (5th century ce), is attributed to the sage Vatsyayana.


...I have found it conjuncts my Venus (4) and Aphrodite (3) opp my Juno (0) squares my nodal axis, sextiles my Vesta and my Saturn


His Kama squares my Mercury (5th/8th) and his Cupido, trines my Vesta and my Juno, sextiles his Amor exact and my Kama/Venus.

We have a 1 deg sextile between our Kama.

In the composite, Kama widely conjuncts Mars (6) trines Neptune and Eros, apex Pluto/Valentine. despite the wide orb, I guess it is where it should be ...in Davison, Kama/Mars conjunction is 2 deg, in the 2nd, numerous aspects.

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posted August 18, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Desdemona! I discovered it when I played the random asteroid game Number 666.


Not a bad idea for a fidelity theme, but with
that number....I was expecting Lucifer or something lol

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DesDEMONa

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Desdemona is on 3 Cap in my chart, on VESTA, NYMPHE, Venus, FELICITAS. lol
trine his Vesta and NN.


For him she is on 9 Pisces conjunct hisEros and opposing his Mars-jupiter-AMOR. oh also conj. his VENUSIA and my name in his chart

Funny I have her on my Venus, he has her on his Mars.

Oh and of course his Desdemona conjunct my pHolus, Ceres, Jupiter, Ishtar and what else

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