posted August 16, 2014 01:17 PM            

It would be fun to follow this up with a psychic abilities thread, perhaps in asteroids. Enneline, you couldn't see any psychic ability markers in your chart, and therefore, you thought you weren't psychic. Despite being able to see past lives, and angels and ghosts now and then .

You've covered some of the ground here.

posted August 16, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hocus Pocus. I haven't seen it but now maybe I will

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Enneline and LeeLoo,

It would be fun to follow this up with a psychic abilities thread, perhaps in asteroids. Enneline, you couldn't see any psychic ability markers in your chart, and therefore, you thought you weren't psychic. Despite being able to see past lives, and angels and ghosts now and then .

You've covered some of the ground here.

@ Libran deamer, Did you see the note for you in my thread?

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posted August 16, 2014 01:30 PM            

I have Philia in Taurus 4th
Amicitia in 6th near Saturn, trine Vesta and Juno/Jupiter
He has Philia conjunct DSC exact
His Amicitia conjunct Cupido in the 7th, trine Neptune, sextile Venus and Mars

My Sun and Mars/Union opp his Philia
My Philia sextile his Sun, trine his ASC and his Psyche/Lilith/Pallas stellium

My Amicitia square his Amicitia, trine his Alma sextile his Amor
His Amicitia/Cupido opp my Pluto/Mercury trine my Neptune sextile my Eros

Composite Philia in the 5th opp Uranus, 3rd ruler sextile Sun (wide) and Juno/Ceres

Amicitia conjunct DSC (1)

posted August 16, 2014 01:44 PM            

My Constantia conjuncts my Lust

My Semper conjuncts my Valentine exact aaawwwwwwwww

My Aeternitas trine my Valentine awwww

His Constantia is near his Vesta, trine his Juno, opp Cupido/Aeternitas
His Aeternitas conjuncts his Cupido awww part of the love Kite

His Semper conjuncts his Valentine/Lust/Pluto

My Constantia/Lust lol trines his Jupiter and MC/Saturn
My Semper/Valentine trines his Eros and my Aeternitas and conjuncts his 5th ruler, Uranus a bit wider

His Constantia conjuncts Mercury (my 5th/8th) exact, opp his Cupido/Aeternitas

His Semper(Valentine/Lust/Pluto) conjuncts my Pluto exact

Composite Constantia trines Sun exact
Semper conjuncts Valentine (1) and Lust (3)
Aeternitas conjunct DSC (4)

posted August 16, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Ask LeeLoo, she is more psychic than I am

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I'm only doing it together with Enneline

posted August 16, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm only doing it together with Enneline

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That's a prediction then, because, as Enneline says, you're the psychic one .

Your aspects listed above are quite remarkable!! I am gazing in wonder.

Another asteroid to add to the Devota/Adorea group is Anteros (1943). Anteros was the god of requited love, literally "love returned". He was Eros' brother.

posted August 16, 2014 03:11 PM            

"My Constantia conjuncts my Lust "
What can I say to this?
Constancy is a huge turn on for you?
Your lust never ceases?

"My Semper conjuncts my Valentine exact aaawwwwwwwww

My Aeternitas trine my Valentine awwww "
Awww how sweet. Your love is forever, as is your lust. Lust and love never die.

"His Constantia is near his Vesta, trine his Juno, opp Cupido/Aeternitas"
Same for him. Similiar at least.

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His Aeternitas conjuncts his Cupido awww part of the love Kite"
Hmm, aeternitas and Cupido. Love that !
His desire is eternal?
his desire lasts all eternity?

2His Semper conjuncts his Valentine/Lust/Pluto "
wow!
And mirroring yours!
Love is forever.

"His Semper(Valentine/Lust/Pluto) conjuncts my Pluto exact"
You have a kathartic effect on him, sort of pushing him to experience this everlasting neverdying kathartic love.

"Semper conjuncts Valentine (1) and Lust (3)
Aeternitas conjunct DSC"
Forever love.

posted August 16, 2014 03:21 PM            

AMICITIA on 2 Leo in 8th conj. PRIAPUS, trine AMOR on 2 Sag in 12th, trine IC on 4 Aries.

CONSTANTIA on 20 Sag in 1st, trine CUPIDO on 19 Leo in 8th trine Chiron on 20 Aries in 4th

AETERNITAS conjunct KARMA on 16 Gemini in 7th exact!
Square JUNO on 26 Pisces in 3rd;
trine Moon on 17 Aquarius in 2nd.

DEVOTA on 15 Scorpio conjnct DESIDERATA on 14 Scorpio in 11th
I laugh because it is yet another one surrounding the SIVA-MOIRA-LONDON-EURYDIKE-LANCELOT-WALPURGA batch, oh and opposing ULYSSES Of course.

Trine JUNO on 16 Pisces in 3rd; trine Saturn on 16 Cancer in 8th.

VENUSIA on 10 Libra in 10th, conjunct Pluto on 9 Libra, conjunct APHRODITE on 13 Libra.
trine ASTARTE on the SN, 10 Gemini in 7th exact, also trine KAALI on 12 Gemini.
Trine PALLAS on 9 Aquarius.
opposite SIRENE on 9 Aries in 4th (plus ALICE)

ADOREA on 9 Cap in 1st conjunct Venus, ISIS, OSIRIS, SPIRIT, GUINEVERE From 6-10 Cap. squrae pLuto on 9 Libra, sextile Jupiter-CERES-ISHTAR from 8-11 Pisces.
trine HEKATE On 8 Virgo and so on

SEMPER on 25 Scorpio in 12th conjunct VALENTINE on 27 Scorpio in 12th. Love that. You have that as well, right? Are they travelling in step?

I also added LIEBE (7696), as this is the German word for "love".

Falls onto 00 SAg in 12th for me, conj. MEDEA on 1 Sag, and AMOR on 2 Sag, also conj. VALENTINE on 27 SCorpio.
in fact it is on the midpoint of the almost conjunction of Valentine-Amor.

Hmm so it means LIEBE is also trine my PRIAPUS (00 Leo) and DEJANIRA (00 Aries)
find that significant as it is the very first degree of the sign.

posted August 16, 2014 03:36 PM            

PHILIA conj. Chiron in 8 Taurus in 1st
trine Mars-Jupiter-Amor in Virgo in 6th
opposite SEMPER-LUST on 6 Scorpio in 7th
sextile VENUSIA-EROS on 8 Pisces

VENUSIA-EROS on 8 Pisces trine SEMPER_LUST
opposing Mars-Jupiter-AMOR

AETERNITAS Cancer 5th opposite AMICITIA Cap 11th exact,
square Pluto Libra 7th
(T-square)

CONSTANTIA Leo 5th opposite CIRCE Aqua 11th, square VESTA Taurus 1st

DEVOTA Virgo 6th square ADOREA Sag 9th

DESIDERATA conj. SAPPHO in Aqua in 12th

LIEBE conj. Moon and MC exact. LOL

posted August 16, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow, Ail, you must be queen of us witches.

Walpurga might be especially important for me, as she is of NOrse origin and was located in Germany.

"256 Walpurga (Norse):
Keywords:
- a "white Goddess" who brings fertility, occult knowledge, and protection, but who is herself besieged by the forces of tumult, death and chaos
- divination, spellcraft, oracular activities, and other sorts of witchcraft
- bonfires, which are set upon sites of significance for both Godly and human activites
- processions and gatherings of "witches" upon famous witch-mountains, which may be assumed to be demonizations of former Heathen holy wights, wise-women, and hallowed sites
- forcible casting-out of Winter, illness and that which is worn out, by the May-King and/or Queen and their green-bedecked and licentious troops, bringing in their wake marriages and fertility of crops, beasts and mankind
- dancing, merry-making, and loosening of the usual rules governing sexual behavior
- blessing-processions, with sacred objects and offerings, around fields and villages, bringing fertility and protection from bad weather
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The Goddess Walpurga, or Waldborg, is an ancient Goddess of fertility who was known and worshipped in Germany long before the saint. She is the original European "Queen of the May", and possibly the sister of Eostre. The more arcane rites associated with her worship are conducted on the Eve of May Day, or "Witches Night". The tamer, more festive celebration of Spring would then ensue the next morning, on May Day proper.

Her name, often spelled anomalously, has been often misinterpreted as Wæl - Burga, "Stronghold of the Slain". A closer look at the archaic German spelling Walborg, gives a clue as to the original meaning, "Forest-Defense" or even "Forest-hill". Interestingly, the former interpretation seems to provide insight into her nature and function, whereas the latter describes prescisely where her followers chose to gather in old times to worship her! This being said, we will henceforward refer to the Anglo-Saxon Goddess asWealdbeorh, for clarity.

The Myth of Wealdbeorh

Folklorist EL Rochholz describes the Goddess as carrying a three-cornered mirror with which she could fortell the future, as well as a spindle. These objects are imbued with deep symbolism in Germanic mythology, and hint at a connection with Wyrd, and also with other ancestal Goddesses andIdesi, or matrons. The spindle is symbolic of both houshold industry and fertility, as it is used in the spinning of flax into cloth. She is also described as being a "white Goddess", crowned and shod with fire.
Regarding her feast-day, Grimm tells us:

"We know that all over Germany a grand annual excursion of witches is placed on the first night in May, i.e. on the date of the sacrificial feast and the old May-gathering of the people. On the first of May, of all days, the periodical assizes continued for many centuries to be held; on that day came the merry May-ridings, and the kindling of the sacred fire: it was one of the highest days in all heathenism. ...The witches invariably resort to places where formerly justice was administered, or sacrifices were offered. ...Almost all the witch-mountains were once hills of sacrifice, boundary-hills, or salt-hills."

German folk-lore tells that Waldborg is pursued by the Wild Hunt, and in her flight she is said to give her favor to those who shelter her. There is a tale concerning this, that that while fleeing the Wild Hunt, Wealdbeorh came upon a farmer and begged him to hide her in a sheaf of grain. When the Wild Hunt had passed the next morning, the Goddess was gone, but the farmer's fields had been sprinkled with gold! To this day, the sheaf of grain remains a symbol of Wealdbeorh. With the coming of warm weather, Wealdbeorh's power waxes, and even today in the Harz Mountains of Germany, it is customary to leave the windows of the home open during May, so the "White Queen of the May" could take refuge inside.

Of course, the Goddess does have her "dark side" as well. In addition to the public festivities on May Day, it is said that sorcerors and wise-women had their own part to play in the Spring Festival, giving birth to the ominous tales of Walpurgisnacht, or Witches Night. These sorcerors would gather on hilltops in the forests of Germania, and enact fertility rites, as well as divining the future. Bonfires would lit upon the hilltops, the "Fires of May", a tradition that persists in Germany to this day, where Walpurisnacht is considered to be a more ominous night than Halloween.

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posted August 16, 2014 03:55 PM            

my AMICITIA:
conjunct his CONSTANTIA
opposite his CIRCE
opposite his ISHTAR
square his VESTA

my CONSTANTIA
conjunct his Neptune-Helena-DNA exact

my AETERNITAS:
opposite his ADOREA
square his DEVOTA
square his KAMA (on my Juno)

trine his FIDES (on my Moon, and also trine my Kama of courese)

my DEVOTA-DESIDERATA
trine his KAMA
sextile his DEVOTA exact

my ADOREA
trine his AMOR (exact)-Mars-Jupiter
trine his Chiron- Philia exact
sextile his VENUSIA-EROS-my name

my LIEBE
square his NN
square his Priapus (on his SN)
square his true BML (on his NN)
(my Liebe somehow gets into that forcefield of his BML-Priapus-opposition. lol)

trine his CONSTANTIA
sextile his CIRCE

posted August 16, 2014 04:03 PM            

trine my Venus-Isis-Osiris-Adorea

his AMICITIA
conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex
opposite my EROS
square my Chiron
square my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA-KASSANDRA

his AETERNITAS
opp. my Sun/Moon-mp
conjunct my Vertex and EROS
widely conj. my Saturn (3 degrees)
square my Chiron
square my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA-KASSANDRA

trine my ANTEROS-PENELOPE right on his VALENTINE-ODYSSEUS
widely trine my jUNO (3 degrees)

his CONSTANTIA
conjunct my Priapus-AMICITIA
square my Uranus

trine my LIEBE-MEDEA-AMOR
trine my DEJANIRA-IC

his DEVOTA:
sextile my Saturn
opposite my JUNO
sextile my DESIDERATA-DEVOTA

his VENUSIA
conjunct my Pholus, ISHTAR- CERES-Jupiter
sextile my Venus-Isis-Osiris-Adorea
square my ASC-Neptune-NN
opposite my Hekate-Lilith

his DESIDERATA
conj. my PALLAS
trine my KAALI-ASTARTE-SN
trine my APHRODITE-VENUSIA-Pluto

his ADOREA
opposite my KARMA

his LIEBE-Moon-MC:
conjunct my Sun-Mercury-Circe-Reiki lol
also conjunct my Vesta

also sextiles my true BML exact!

posted August 16, 2014 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
That's a prediction then, because, as Enneline says, you're the psychic one .

Your aspects listed above are quite remarkable!! I am gazing in wonder.

Another asteroid to add to the Devota/Adorea group is Anteros (1943). Anteros was the god of requited love, literally "love returned". He was Eros' brother.

Anteros works for us:
His Anteros on my Asc
My Anteros conjunct his Mars. And why not .

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Anteros is a wonderful one.

My Anteros is conjunct his Valentine exact. His Anteros-Pluto is on my Sappho. I just love these.

Anteros is the 11th house to Eros 5th house symbolism. The responsiveness you show when someone shows you love first.

meaning in my case, I wasn`t even aware of my feelings, BEFORE he started paying attention to me and just being somehow sweet to me. I felt like he treated me differently from others, maybe just a delusion, but, this, him paying attention to me,w as what really started the thing for me.

posted August 16, 2014 04:21 PM            

Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct Amor from 23-24 Pisces, trine Psyche on 23 Scorpio, possibly trine Moon in CAncer

and another Grand trine in water of

Valentine 2 Cancer, Anteros 4 SCorpio and Pholus 5 Pisces

But apart from that there needs some wounds processed first, for

NN on 14 Cap is exactly squared by Chiron on 15 Aries, and Karma on 17 Cap

Also A yod of Saturn on 14 Gem sextile Chiron on 15 Aries quinkunx Pallas on 15 Scorpio, which is opposite EROS on 15 Taurus. This EROS is also trine NN and KARMA.

posted August 16, 2014 04:25 PM            

or that Amor and Psyche (and apparently Anteros) are Pisces?
While Eros is a LEo?

BTW Sappho is a Taurus with Sun conjunct pluto. lol

Valentine is a scorpio, and WHAT Scorpio!

Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury, ERos, Pallas, Mars and Anteros ALL in Scorpio (spread out).

The only personal planet NOT In Scorpio is Moon, which ends up in Leo. lol

Tells us a LOT about what Valentine is about.

BTW the asteroid Valentine itself is in ARies conjunct LUST In that chart (it does not quite look so platonic, now , does it? lol)

posted August 17, 2014 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
ok, leeloo, I am going to play with you

"My Constantia conjuncts my Lust "
What can I say to this?
Constancy is a huge turn on for you?
Your lust never ceases?

"My Semper conjuncts my Valentine exact aaawwwwwwwww

My Aeternitas trine my Valentine awwww "
Awww how sweet. Your love is forever, as is your lust. Lust and love never die.

"His Constantia is near his Vesta, trine his Juno, opp Cupido/Aeternitas"
Same for him. Similiar at least.

"
His Aeternitas conjuncts his Cupido awww part of the love Kite"
Hmm, aeternitas and Cupido. Love that !
His desire is eternal?
his desire lasts all eternity?

2His Semper conjuncts his Valentine/Lust/Pluto "
wow!
And mirroring yours!
Love is forever.

"His Semper(Valentine/Lust/Pluto) conjuncts my Pluto exact"
You have a kathartic effect on him, sort of pushing him to experience this everlasting neverdying kathartic love.

"Semper conjuncts Valentine (1) and Lust (3)
Aeternitas conjunct DSC"
Forever love.

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Ceri, I just LOVE who you repeated "forever love" it's like a soothing mantra, it gave me an almost perfect morning Thanks for that!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is a discovery chart?

posted August 17, 2014 05:50 AM            

Only pairing coming up is an exact sextile of Pluto to Proserpina, highlighting the transformative effect of Valentine-love, but none of theother usual suspects.

ANTEROS has a close PSYCHE-AMOR-trine in water signs

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posted August 17, 2014 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Major aspects in my natal

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Adorea conjunct Venus in 1st with all that...wow...strong! You don't just love, you adore

I checked Semper/Valentine and it was conjunct only in 1974, not in 1973, not in 1975

I have Adorea conjunct Neptune on 11th cusp, multiple aspects, conjunct his Adorea/Neptune (his Neptune rules his 7th). part of our cross/Kite with Venus/Mars etc.

My Devota conjunct Liebe Valentine and Semper, a nice hot spot there. His Devota conjunct his Semper/Pluto/Valentine/Lust, on my Mercury/Pluto.

His Liebe conjunct my Sun (1)
His Desiderata conjunct my Moon (2), near his Priapus there. His Desiderata opp his Juno/my Lilith exact.

My Mars/Union conjunct Desiderata (1) on his ASC exact.

I have Anteros conjunct Vertex in Leo 7th trine his NN exact and his Anteros. Anteros/Vertex conjunct his Union. Opp his eros sextile his Saturn/MC/SN. His Anteros near the 8th cusp conjunct my Chiron. Opp my Valentine stellium, trine my vertex/Amor, sextile his Merc and his MC/Saturn/SN.

Also, my Anteros opp his Eros (1)

COMPOSITE

Adorea conjunct Neptune (IC ruler) in 1st part of a Kite with:

trine Mars and Eros, sextile Moon conjunct Liebe and Pluto. Liebe and Pluto (1).

Devota conjunct Valentine (1)

Desiderata conjunct MC (1.5) - what could this mean?

Sun conjunct Anteros (3)

Looking at Desiderata in Davison, I see it makes a Kite: Desiderata in Leo trine NN in Sag and Chiron in Aries, apex Sun/Anteros/Amor in Gem 12th.

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posted August 17, 2014 09:49 AM            

"I have Adorea conjunct Neptune on 11th cusp, multiple aspects, conjunct his Adorea/Neptune (his Neptune rules his 7th). part of our cross/Kite with Venus/Mars etc."
Sweet and spicey.

BTW do you think adorea means that which we adore?
And desiderata where we are being desired?
(well the latin form of desderata is passive, meaning "the desired one". on the other hand it could also represent the desired one to us. now I managed to confuse myself. lol).

"His Liebe conjunct my Sun (1) "
we have that as well.

"Adorea conjunct Neptune (IC ruler) in 1st part of a Kite with:"
Rose coloured glasses?

"Desiderata conjunct MC (1.5) - what could this mean?"
your desire is very visible to the outer world?

posted August 17, 2014 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
<"Adorea conjunct Venus in 1st with all that...wow...strong! You don't just love, you adore"
Yes no wonder I am going gaga about these Capricorn-degrees. lol

"I have Adorea conjunct Neptune on 11th cusp, multiple aspects, conjunct his Adorea/Neptune (his Neptune rules his 7th). part of our cross/Kite with Venus/Mars etc."
Sweet and spicey.

BTW do you think adorea means that which we adore?
And desiderata where we are being desired?
(well the latin form of desderata is passive, meaning "the desired one". on the other hand it could also represent the desired one to us. now I managed to confuse myself. lol).

I think they go both ways, as it happens to all these love asteroids. However, I do feel Desiderata to be something we desire, a "desiderate", a wish, a dream

"His Liebe conjunct my Sun (1) "
we have that as well.

It's almost a patriotic theme for you two

BTW, no significant couples for out theme in The Song of the Nibelungs?

"Adorea conjunct Neptune (IC ruler) in 1st part of a Kite with:"
Rose coloured glasses?
Indeed. And perhaps a strong need for intimacy together, in tune with the 12th house theme.

"Desiderata conjunct MC (1.5) - what could this mean?"
your desire is very visible to the outer world?

Good point!

S

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