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Topic: Astrology test: who does she like better?
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Enneline unregistered
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posted September 06, 2015 08:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Enneline...haven't you heard?Here in America, cowboys look like this: 
You are going to far you can't have Leeloo and that cowboy all at once.
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posted September 06, 2015 09:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:  good hearted unicorn this is memorable! I guess there must be some mean-spirited unicorns out there, Enneline is such a witch!
I am telling the truth! 
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 04:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Okay, let's go back to the topic on page 10EDIT: 1 vote that the cappy boy dates /likes the aries girl more: Ceridwen 3 votes that the cappy boy dates / likes the cancer girl more: Rosalind & Faith + PELUCHES (who is also of the opinion that the cancer girl loves him...as I said one of them is really mad crazy about him ) any more votes?  I am waiting for Peaches, she was ahead of me, to solve the mystery 
nah, scratch me from the list. IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 04:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: nah, scratch me from the list.
What did u make to change your opinion? IP: Logged |
Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 980 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 07, 2015 04:15 AM
What do I need to do everyone for this test ?  ------------------ Beginners Guide to Astrology IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 05:20 AM
not enough time to give it a thorough glance. On top of that I had thought initially his Venus-Mars was unaspected in the second one. But at the same time seeing the DESc-ruler on ASC in both synastries, the second one having a Sun-Venus-opposition. An angular Moon to each others parental axis. Of course that one could be totally platonic. the first one having an angular Moon-Sun-conjunction (could also be platonic of course) on top of a Venus-Mars-square, plus interesting houseruler connections. Really not sure anymore. and very curious about the answer. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 05:41 AM
I am posting because I assume Enneline is about to spill the beans.Enneline, I would always go for the 1st chart. First of all, the guy's Venus is unaspected in the 2nd (I don't see a quincunx there, too wide orb, IMO, what is it?) and at least when it comes to his powerful Venus T/square, Cancer lady has nothing on it. Aries lady has the Moon on this configuration, plus an Aqua Mars. Very significant, IMO AND the guy's Mars is unaspected...while Cancer Venus is one of the perfect Venuses for him (but so is Gem), it is a bit far for his Mars and Pluto (MC planet and final Sun dispositor), and Saturn/NN is disrupting his Minor Triangle for romance. Venus rules his 5th house, Mercury his 7th, he has Aqua Venus and Mercury/Uranus in the 12th, he needs Aqua for romance. What I see in the second synastry is friendship, not romance...at least for the guy. EDIT: his Venus strongly goes for fixed energy: by sign + house + aspects Not to mention the lady's 8th ruler, part of a very significant square with Mars dispositor, receives no aspects, which makes me believe there is no sexual match for the lady. Maybe an initial attraction with the 8th overlay, but probably not clicking afterwards. It's also very interesting to see this is an almost hit (but miss) for both people, from the pattern completion POV. There are two perfect Venuses for the lady's chart, Venus in Aqua and Venus in Pisces, but the Aqua Venus is outside of her orb needs, just like the Cancer Venus is for the guy. So the energy would be felt, but something not quite aligned too. IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 07:10 AM
Leeloo,that was my first impression, too, but I tend to get confused nowadays. Good point about the T-square though IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 07:15 AM
Ceri, I know I thought your first evaluation was in tune with my thinking.IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 07:17 AM
Yes, sometimes I get swayed though. and Faith has been right the times before as well. I honestly did not like his Venus and Mars unaspected in the second one (even with a possible quinkunx). I think there is not even a semisquare connected to it (which I find more important than we give it credit, probably). IP: Logged |
Enneline unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 07:38 AM
Okay (don't have much time since I am with my costumer right now), I've been waiting for Peluches to reveal the secret but I guess i am too impatient  1 Option: LeeLoo & Ceri vote for the aries Girl (though Ceri wasn't that sure) 2 Option: Faith, Rosalind and Peluches(who thinks the cancer Lady is in love) and the winner is.... LeeLoo & Ceri!!!  I know it was a bit tough since the cancer Lady puts a lot in his 7h house while the aries Girl does not. The cap guy and the aries Girl are deeply in love. They have been dating for years, she is the first girlfriend who can enjoy his faithfulness (he has always cheated on his gfs so far) and i think they will marry one day. The aries Girl is very clingy towards him...i know you expect clinginess from a cancer Lady.  The cap guy & the cancer Lady get along great but it is platonically only. Indeed the cancer Lady does not feel much of a sexual attraction, she views him as a Little brother. I don't know from his side though but i know he finds her beautiful. I think despite the 7h house overlays, it would remain a friendship: cancer does quincunx his venus only and his mars receives a wide Opposition from her NN/Saturn only. The aries Girl does aspect him much better with closer degrees. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 07:45 AM
Thank you, E. but my analysis is not valid, in the sense that I already knew the Aries is his long-term girlfriend, although it is true I can't possibly know how much he is attracted to the Cancer or not; but what I wanted to say, even if I hadn't known, I would have still chosen the first chart for romance; I think unaspected romantic planets is big in synastry, and I see the second chart as very telling for friendship, many friendship aspects rather than romance, and I see the two oppositions with the Suns as a strong sign for friendship as well in this case. There is a very nice interplay with IC energies and the Moon too.But what is the orb of that quincunx? It looks out of orb, but synastry charts don't show orb properly. However, it doesn't appear as quincunx in astro.com.  IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 07:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Thank you, E. but my analysis is not valid, in the sense that I already knew the Aries is his long-term girlfriend, although it is true I can't possibly know how much he is attracted to the Cancer or not; but what I wanted to say, even if I hadn't known, I would have still chosen the first chart for romance; I think unaspected romantic planets is big in synastry, and I see the second chart as very telling for friendship, many friendship aspects rather than romance, and I see the two oppositions with the Suns as a strong sign for friendship as well in this case. There is a very nice interplay with IC energies and the Moon too.But what is the orb of that quincunx? It looks out of orb, but synastry charts don't show orb properly. However, it doesn't appear as quincunx in astro.com. 
I don't think he is that much attracted to the cancer; i mean why should he? She doesn't "touch" his luminaries as strongly as the aries Girl does I don't know why the quincunx does not Show up Whatever, the degree (sun/asc quincunx his venus) is 148 IP: Logged |
Enneline unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 08:00 AM
i think the moon/ic stuff is why they remain Close friends, telling each other secrets (from the very first Moment they met) and having the Feeling to have been brother and sister in a past life  the aries Girl hates the cancer Girl (that's why he pretends not to have much contact with cancer if any) although the cancer never hit on him, even supporting their relationship and giving him a talking not to hurt his gf's Feelings. IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 08:07 AM
and now i am really curious why Rosalind, Faith and Peluches tought it is the cancer Lady. Due to the 7h overlay? Or was it something else? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 07, 2015 08:21 AM
Ah! Okay. I was doubtful of my answer once you said that one girl was strictly a friend, because I couldn't imagine his synastry with the Aries being purely platonic. (Does Aries even DO platonic?? ) Be back soon with the answers I drew up, for why he I thought likes the Cancer more. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 07, 2015 08:23 AM
@EnnelineThe synastry with both women is exceptionally strong because of the luminary and angle conjunctions, and other factors. Tipping points: * The Aries' Chiron is conjunct the Cap's DSC, and her Venus is conjunct his Chiron. I just don't like that. * The Cap's DSC is ruled by Mercury. Notice how many aspect lines connect to his Mercury, in the synastry with the Cancer? Eight. The synastry is mostly concentrated there, in a bundle, on his DSC ruler. And some of these aspects couldn't be better: his Sag Mercury trine the Cancer's Leo Mercury-Jupiter, forming grand trines, more or less, with their Aries moons. This bundle of Mercury aspects squares the Cancer's nodal axis. Since her DSC ruler is conjunct her NN, this bundle is exceptionally important to her as well. Additional factors, in favor of the Cancer: * Angular strength: - Her DSC conjunct his Jupiter - Her sun-ASC mirroring his Aries moon, trine his Saturn. - Her moon conjunct his IC * Juno trine Juno * Her NN-Saturn mirrors his SN-Saturn. Karmic.  * Her sun-Venus in in his 7H * His Mars trine her Venus * Her Mars and Venus form a yod with his sun * Her sun-ASC and Valentine form a yod with his Venus There may be some problems because of the Mars square Mars, even though it's wide, and Chiron conjunct Juno. But nothing's perfect.
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posted September 07, 2015 08:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Ah! Okay. I was doubtful of my answer once you said that one girl was strictly a friend, because I couldn't imagine his synastry with the Aries being purely platonic. (Does Aries even DO platonic?? ) Be back soon with the answers I drew up, for why he likes the Cancer more.
you were right: impossible for him to be platonic with the aries  thank you in advance, really curious why you did vote for the cancer- i am serious, great astrology lesson IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 08:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: @EnnelineThe synastry with both women is exceptionally strong because of the luminary and angle conjunctions, and other factors. Tipping points: * The Aries' Chiron is conjunct the Cap's DSC, and her Venus is conjunct his Chiron. I just don't like that. * The Cap's DSC is ruled by Mercury. Notice how many aspect lines connect to his Mercury, in the synastry with the Cancer? Eight. The synastry is mostly concentrated there, in a bundle, on his DSC ruler. And some of these aspects couldn't be better: his Sag Mercury trine the Cancer's Leo Mercury-Jupiter, forming grand trines, more or less, with their Aries moons. This bundle of Mercury aspects squares the Cancer's nodal axis. Since her DSC ruler is conjunct her NN, this bundle is exceptionally important to her as well. Additional factors, in favor of the Cancer: * Angular strength: - Her DSC conjunct his Jupiter - Her sun-ASC mirroring his Aries moon, trine his Saturn. - Her moon conjunct his IC * Juno trine Juno * Her NN-Saturn mirrors his SN-Saturn. Karmic.  * Her sun-Venus in in his 7H * His Mars trine her Venus * Her Mars and Venus form a yod with his sun * Her sun-ASC and Valentine form a yod with his Venus There may be some problems because of the Mars square Mars, even though it's wide, and Chiron conjunct Juno. But nothing's perfect.
WOW Thank you! I need some time to compare your Analysis with LeeLoo's and Ceri's. The 3 of you are AWESOME astrologers. I learn sooo much from you thank you IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 07, 2015 08:33 AM
LeeLoo and Ceri are awesome, I'm just getting started.  And I got this one wrong.  Anyway, thanks for the puzzle.  IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 08:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: I don't think he is that much attracted to the cancer; i mean why should he? She doesn't "touch" his luminaries as strongly as the aries Girl doesI don't know why the quincunx does not Show up Whatever, the degree (sun/asc quincunx his venus) is 148
I mean I didn't see the Cancer and Cap here together to see how much he is attracted to her ( romantically); but just by looking at those lonely Venus Mars, his Neptune Minor Triangle too far, his romantic needs, and the Venus Mars sq with Aries I would have said he isn't as attracted as with Aries (even not knowing the story at all) IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 08:38 AM
There is however a Mars Lilith, it's true, so maybe the temptation exists; but I wouldn't like an unaspected male Mars in the long run.Aww Faith, thank you but in this case, I already had an advantage with the analysis. I posted it because it's such an interesting case to discuss, but I am out of the "competition" in this case. IP: Logged |
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posted September 07, 2015 08:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sven555: What do I need to do everyone for this test ? 
Hi, Sven welcome back  I think there is still a puzzle left for now, Peluches's, page 10. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 07, 2015 08:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Peluches:  But it's adorable Wasn't that the name of the baby mammoth in one of the Ice Age movies ?
Yes Just like you!  and I love those movies  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 07, 2015 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: There is however a Mars Lilith, it's true, so maybe the temptation exists; but I wouldn't like an unaspected male Mars in the long run.
That's the problem with synastry charts, I can't really see the orbs. I thought his Mars is trine the Cancer's Venus...but you think it's too wide to count? IP: Logged | |