posted August 31, 2015 02:36 PM              

loved your post.
And you pointed out a lot I thought, too, and some things I had not checked, and intrestingly I am at the moment again deeply into midpoints. lol
Well but funny enough the one thing the first relationship lacked WAS passion and physical attraction. HOWEVER despite the lack of passionate attraction, this side of the relationship worked smoothly (in a more technical way though, as the romantic feelings were missing).

posted August 31, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry I didn't write the reasons for my choice, but they pretty much match Peluches's (thank you, petite princesse

apart from what she said, with the second matching passion/obsession for the lady, and the first having a soft, flowy, family vibe, but also youth love, another criterion was the personality of each player here, considering your clues, and what they may trigger in each other.

EDIT: I just saw your post, yeah, possible patronizing with Saturn in 1st and Jupiter on MC. So it wasn't just the good side of those.

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posted August 31, 2015 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Peluches,

loved your post.
And you pointed out a lot I thought, too, and some things I had not checked, and intrestingly I am at the moment again deeply into midpoints. lol
Well but funny enough the one thing the first relationship lacked WAS passion and physical attraction. HOWEVER despite the lack of passionate attraction, this side of the relationship worked smoothly (in a more technical way though, as the romantic feelings were missing).

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Thank you !

posted August 31, 2015 02:50 PM              

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Thank you !

So, I guess having VENUS conjunct MARS in each natal didn't make the composite one as strong. Maybe its house wasn't a really passionate one either ?

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I think the clincher really is that it did not touch anything in the natal charts. They had the possibility thre in composite, but it did nto mean anything to them personally.

posted August 31, 2015 02:54 PM              

however it did also square HIS Saturn, highlighting their natal Moon-Saturn-square, possibly increasing the wish to commit and make it last, but also being a tad difficult in terms of expressing the Venus-Mars-side of the relationship, though well it did work for them, it was just not that passionate or romantic.

posted August 31, 2015 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Yay I'm so stoked I got it right!!! I love your family stories Faith, it makes me so excited to be a mother someday. And trust, as someone that knows many a Cap moon, your boys are far more advanced in their "debates" than certain adults

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LOL ~ thanks athenaia.

posted August 31, 2015 03:04 PM              

composite with the LIbra

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with the Virgo

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comparing the composite to the natals it seems so that in the case with the Libra she was in love and felt cared for by the romantic relationship (which was not that romantic, but anyway), as the composite Venus-Mars-Jupiter hit her Moon.

posted August 31, 2015 05:02 PM            

Will edit reasons in in a minute

The outer has chiron on nn (oops wrong one, I must have meant inner chiron on outer mc but still this is something that makes me less sure), in synastry moon is on outers mc so inner might bring emotional outpouring to them.

Also inner has sun and moon in aries and I've got a feeling this sign could pursue something with another. moon in cancer of outer.

As mentioned below too venus outer sq pluto inner. I've been venus and felt more was more invested by the other but actually pluto got under my skin and I can imagine pluto could move on more completely once done.

posted August 31, 2015 09:44 PM            

Thanks for the information - I think I see where I might have taken leaps in my analysis. I'm having a bit of a hard time pinpointing what makes the Virgo unstable (although, I do see where abuse might have entered into their relationship now), but maybe I need to dive deeper into the aspects for that. I'll have to revisit the charts/read others' comments and try to figure out where I went wrong.

So fun! Thank you for sharing Ceri! This was a toughy for me.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interestingly it was exactly the other way round. The Virgo was highly mentally and emotionally unstable and abusive.

The Libra was the stable partner, but actually I think, it was more a case of maintaining the status quo and having a comfortable social life, with no real effort on his part, than true love. At least not in the romantic sense. They couldn´t even say when they became a couple, it just glided from friendship into couplehood, and then it stayed like that for many years.

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posted September 01, 2015 03:28 AM            

Aries has CHIRON conjunct NNODE, which may be a sign that their main purpose is to overcome their wounds, find the key to a painful situation, solve it and grow into a healer. As CHIRON is involved, they'll probably have work harder towards their soul's missions than others. The conjunction takes place in Leo and in the 11H, a NNODE placement that I have and that has always made me question the opposing energies (coming from the sign and the house separately) and their influence on my soul's goals.

Inner person has NEPTUNE in its house domicile (12H) on an Aries Point, and a stellium of SUN-MOON-MERC tightly conjunct the DSC, involving the 12R (MERC) and the SUN/MOON midpoint, with the stellium's ruler being MARS and opening the 5H of romance. MARS is also in an applying conjunction to the SNODE, indicating that the energy that planet carries (stellium + DSC ruler) is already part of what they are – what they're deeply familiar and intimate with. So, as the Arian's chart suggests a Neptunian and 12H-oriented emphasis, I'd be inclined to think that their NNODE-CHIRON conjunction in the 11H shows a sense of being alone in the world ; having few meaningful connections. The Leo sign suggests that they can overcome that loneliness by having more confidence in themselves, and raising their self-esteem, just like a proud Lion.

Blue also has a VENUS-MARS square, indicating conflict (or at least a significant connection) between their stellium / DSC ruler and their 8H and chart ruler. Incidentally, a simple VENUS-MARS square (without including the rulerships) brings intense emotions, whatever the type of relationship.

The Sagittarian has their JUP on the Arian's CHIRON-NNODE, perhaps showing that they could have been bringing some comfort to Blue's feelings of isolation and loneliness. Natally, Sag has PLUTO conjunct NNODE, an aspect that may bring powerful awakening abilities – okay, that's out of context... – and, most importantly, the ability to throw away 'dead' things from their life purpose, and to only focus on it. Aaaand that doesn't really sound like lamenting over an ex-partner for the rest of your life (with all due respect). Also, Aries had their PLUTO on Sag's NNODE, something that might mean 'bringing obsession to them' (and other such Plutonian stuff).

And I'll end with the different possibilities of Red's MOON placement – either square Blue's NEP, or their stellium a little further, or even conjunct their JUP-MC – possibly indicating a further significant connection for Aries.

posted September 01, 2015 03:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Sag cheated.

Sag's Jupiter on Aries' NN-Chiron.

Aries' Mars (DSC & stellium ruler) conjunct SN, trine Sag's Saturn...unable to let go. Also the whole stellium on the DSC feels like difficulty distinguishing one's self from one's relationship. But that's a major task with Leo NN...to learn to shine independently.

8H Taurus Venus, unable to let go. ETA: chart ruler, and squares nodal axis!

Sag's Mars-Uranus...might like cheating.

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posted September 01, 2015 08:41 AM            

Here's one from me if people are still interested in playing

This is a mother and her 2 daughters, born 7 years apart.

One of the daughters was the mother's favourite, she would always pamper her, defend her from the world, treat her like a princess, hold her hand through anything. When the daughter grew up, got married and had a child of her own, she left her child to her mother until it turned 15, and would only visit over weekends, because she couldn't handle the responsibility. Years later her marriage fell apart, and after her father passed away, she moved back in with her mother - now they both live together in a very toxic atmosphere, cannot stand each other but neither seems capable of breaking the tie.

The other daughter was always treated with a "she can handle it" approach, a ton of responsibilities were delegated to her since an early age, and she was shipped away from home at age 13 in order to go to a "good" school outside of their hometown. She never returned home, and moved cities 2 more times before getting married and raising a family of her own. She still holds a lot of resentment towards both her mother and her sister, both for being treated unfairly and for being sent away from home. Her relationship with her mother is positive, but they never discuss issues or family history at depth, but stick to more superficial topics when they talk.

The mother is on the inside, all birth times are accurate.

posted September 01, 2015 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'll take it down in a bit.

Sag cheated.
Aries was never really able to fully get over it.

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I think I know who the charts pertain to? But I didn't, when I first composed my answer.

So I answered blind

posted September 01, 2015 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'll take it down in a bit.

Sag cheated.
Aries was never really able to fully get over it.

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posted September 01, 2015 09:32 AM            

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One of the daughters was the mother's favourite, she would always pamper her, defend her from the world, treat her like a princess, hold her hand through anything.

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^^ This is the Taurus

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The other daughter was always treated with a "she can handle it" approach, a ton of responsibilities were delegated to her since an early age, and she was shipped away from home at age 13 in order to go to a "good" school outside of their hometown.

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^^ This is the Cancer.

posted September 01, 2015 09:38 AM            

This especially:

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The Sagittarian has their JUP on the Arian's CHIRON-NNODE, perhaps showing that they could have been bringing some comfort to Blue's feelings of isolation and loneliness. Natally, Sag has PLUTO conjunct NNODE, an aspect that may bring powerful awakening abilities – okay, that's out of context... – and, most importantly, the ability to throw away 'dead' things from their life purpose, and to only focus on it. Aaaand that doesn't really sound like lamenting over an ex-partner for the rest of your life (with all due respect). Also, Aries had their PLUTO on Sag's NNODE, something that might mean 'bringing obsession to them' (and other such Plutonian stuff).

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