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Topic: Composite of natal and eventcharts/ transits
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 09:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir:
So, yea this has to be valid. I see more interesting links between the event-compo's & natal-compo of both. Am I the only one?
Wow, yes, well comparing the composite of saturday`s concert with the composite between Mr Lancelot and me, did not really deliver too many aspects (a Jupiter-Neptune conjunction and a Node-Node-conjunction if I remember it rightly), but since that seems to be on the cancellation list anyway, I was risking a glance at the concert in 2 weeks time of Mr Sag (small venue gig again). Our natal composite to MY event-composite ----------------------------------------- Sun conjunct Moon 1°09a (at the beginning of the concert) Moon conjunct Mercury 0°39a Moon conjunct Venus 1°46 Moon conjunct Uranus 1°54 Moon conjunct Neptune 1°51 ASC conjunct Sun 0°56 Mercury conjunct Jupiter 1°49 a Neptune conjunct Jupiter 0°11 And our natal composite to HIS event-composite (not that many) --------------------------------------- Sun conjunct DESC 1°35 a ASC conjunct sun 1°27 s ASC conjunct Venus 3°11 ASC conjunct Uranus 4°28 (just mentioning it cause he has a Sun-Venus-Uranus-conjunction in his composite) Venus conjunct Mercury 1°38 NN conjunct Mars 1°39 how would you interprete the conjunctions between natal comnposite and event composite? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 10:09 AM
Yes, I am living in exhausting times.  Well, with Tr Pluto opposing my n Saturn exact at the moment, I am probably even less inclined to take any risks. However seems we can resolve that issue, which she did not mind at all. The guy will pick up another friend before (whomo I have met on the meeting, too, so at least Iīve spent a couple of hours with her before) and after that will pick me up and then her herself and so we are going to go to the concert, 5 people, she said I guess. I guess that might be okay.
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 10, 2016 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, I am living in exhausting times.  Well, with Tr Pluto opposing my n Saturn exact at the moment, I am probably even less inclined to take any risks. However seems we can resolve that issue, which she did not mind at all. The guy will pick up another friend before (whomo I have met on the meeting, too, so at least Iīve spent a couple of hours with her before) and after that will pick me up and then her herself and so we are going to go to the concert, 5 people, she said I guess. I guess that might be okay.
Perfect!!! Really good news, it's the uranus thing, I begin to feel confident about it !  Btw, when you have mood and time, after all these exhausting ups and downs, please offer me your input about the interpretation I gave before! I am really anxious about it, it's my first interpretation of a composite to another person !!! Many, many thanks!!! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 10:16 AM
Mar, I will totally delve into the interpretation you gave, but I am at work right now waiting for my parents to pick me up for my uncle`s birthday, so I just have time to do these shortish posts right now. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 10, 2016 10:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mar, I will totally delve into the interpretation you gave, but I am at work right now waiting for my parents to pick me up for my uncle`s birthday, so I just have time to do these shortish posts right now.
Of course, take your time! I will wait! Sorry, I didn't mean to put pressure on you, it was meant only as a reminder!  IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 01:38 PM
Hehe my next thought was "maybe she won't actually go" ... lol... I can see the fear/trepidation/understandable caution of an unknown man in this chart informing your decision for that night too... so many ways to look at a chart! With Saturn on the cusp of the 12th and Sun/Uranus/Neptune playing with Mars/Pluto like that. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 03:03 PM
Hmm, I wouldn`t pay so much attention to the housese here to be honest, as there is a timespan of several hours before the concert during and after. lolNevertheless seems it`s simply not decided yet, though I might still go. Yeah I am capricous like that (Sun-Uranus ). IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 03:06 PM
Right right... forgot about the questionable house relevance. I notice though there's often some magic and synchronicity though to the casting of a chart for a specific time and what comes out... like when i guess a birth time and it's SO interesting but i need to keep reminding myself the houses are pure fantasyIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 03:10 PM
yun,"ah i wonder what you see which says 'lasting'--'and possibly karmic'." Saturn-NN-conjunction. While being nice, I donīt think a sextile has enough glue-power on its own. though it is supporting the Saturn-NN-conjunction in this case and very exact, so I still consider it. his Sun-Uranus-Venus-Node? Being hit by an electric bolt of erotic and romantic attraction. Love at first sight, or attraction at first sight,t hough Venus is a bit wide for my taste. I only really count it because it is part of the midpoint pattern. "Wonder how you would interpret the grand cross there with him..." I wouldn`t see it as a Grand cross, Venus is too far out. The grand cross was there a few days before for him. But the thunderbolt-lightening-electrocuting Sun-Uranus-Venus-Node is more than enough to create that dynamic.
"Venus/North Node there is conjunct our composite Venus as well It is interesting that for him it's Venus/NN and for me it's Saturn/NN... with his Saturn conjunct my ascendant by seven minutes" Yes very interesting.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 03:19 PM
^^Ah yes... Venus may be wide indeed... but it's always cool to see how things have arranged themselves--when things seem wide or wishy washy and then you find out that is facilitating something cool somewhere else. Like here, now I look again and closer; not only is Venus conjunct our composite Venus but the North Node in that chart of his is conjunct my Midheaven at 13 Leo (his IC 11 Leo) and the Sun is conjunct our composite Sun/Moon midpoint at 12 Aqua..! So cool. Am definitely a firm believer in event chart composites! So good!!! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 03:20 PM
BTW my midpoints for the composite of the concert (on saturday) really really suck. Using only 1 degree orb (though I usually prefer 1°30) and eleminating all including angles:
Pluto conjunct Saturn/Uranus 0°02 Pluto conjunct Saturn/Neptune 0°03 Pluto conjunct Sun/Saturn 0°19
Mars conjunct Sun/Saturn 0°01 Mars conjunct Saturn/Uranus 0°23 Mars conjunct Saturn/Neptune 0°24 Lilith (mean) conjunct Venus/Pluto 0°03 Lilith conjunct Mars/Juno 0°04 Lilith conjunct Juno/Pluto 0°05 Lilith conjunct Venus/Mars 0°14 Mercury conjunct Moon/Node 0°56 (at least one nice one) Neptune conjunct Sun/Uranus 0°24 Uranus conjunct Sun/Neptune 0°21 Sun conjunct Uranus/Neptune 0°45
Saturn square Venus/Jupiter 0°04 Saturn square Venus/Juno 0°04
Juno square Saturn/Node 0°24 Venus square Saturn/Node 0°05 Moon square NEptune /PLuto 0°29 Moon square Uranus/Pluto 0°30 Moon square Mars/Neptune 0°40 Moon square Mars/Uranus 0°41 Moon square Sun/Pluto 0°53 IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 03:25 PM
Awe Saturn gettin all up in Venus/Jupiter... yeah all that Saturn, Pluto, Neptune looks kinda bleak, heavy. Oof! Sun=Mars/Saturn!! Not likely very gratifying! I did note in that composite that Jupiter was conspicuously out on its own not doing much.. likely always worth noting. Goes to show, i go back and forth but really... considering a chart without midpoints is never the whole story! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 03:28 PM
Yun, "So Pluto-Mars on its own gives this night a serious power and charge.. this is transformative," Yes. I think so. Interestingly my n Valentine is there as well on 27°32 Scorpio.
"I think this chart is saying how imperative it is that you do things YOUR way, as opposed to basing any action on anybody else," I guess I already started it today, when I made clear that I do feel uncomfortable getting into a car with a total stranger, and was expecting to be met with disbelief or even a little ridicule (as I am so paranoid), instead my new aquaitance was understanding and having 2 more different suggestions at hand to make me feel more comfortable about the situation, which was a nice surprise. I am still a little anxious, but that is not even so much because of the one man there, but just because of the unknown group, but sometimes boundaries need to be pushed a little (though there are terms that are non debateable for me, as I said) IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 03:31 PM
Hmm.. it sounds like it might indeed be good to push those boundaries a little bit as you might be pleasantly surprised. The challenge of the situation is shown by the midpoints especially eh?-- it seems like you might be in the midst of situations which are challenging and intense and deep but not "bad"--you know--likely powerful and ultimately kind of a level-up of your ego and self confidence somehow. A new metamorphosis... You're really being empowered somehow or otherIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sunnya: I see some of my posts seem to have disappeared, no biggie. Just know I watched the video .Regarding next weekend concert... Here is my newbie input: Anti-Vertex conjunct NN, fated and is this a concert you want to go for awhile? And the Moon in the 5th opposite Saturn possibly tells me that even if you try to control (hide? I risk to say) your emotions, it won't work. Moon is in the house of Leo and the heart (and entertainment how fitting!), it is a night to be felt. I think Saturn here is not to restrict but to bring a karmic tone to the night. Also Mars brings action and Jupiter will amplify it and they are both connected to the Moon... It seems like a fun night! I am curious to know how it goes hehehe.
Sunnya, personally I wouldnīt count the MOon-SAturn. Too wide in orb, I am sure there are different opinions on thsi, but since this is a specific day, the orbs should be specific, too. I like the interpretation though IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 04:00 PM
Mar, you did a wonderful analysis!  "Mars and Pluto are square to s/m midpoint," I would not consider it. Midpoints need a very tight orb, like 1°30 at most, so they are out of it. "aybe you are going to feel rather powerful and assertive that day? " I think I did assert myself today, though it did not need that much assertion as I had feared. lol
In fact the conjunction of Mars-Pluto was due TODAY, when I wrote the message to her it was at 21 minutes applying. (I guess it is exact somewhere during the night or tomorrow early morning). "h event and not with him," With whom?
Though these event-composites of course also show our response to those people who will become important/ instrumental in these events, whom we encounter, though as of know I donīt know that of course. " 1) The S.N. conjunct vertex and 2) the IC/MC axis square the vertex." Well we don`t exactly have a precise time, so we can`t consider these, not yet at least. "Moreover, Eros forms a very nice opposition to Psyche" This is what struck me, too.
While there is not really a "him", as far as I am aware of now, of course Mr aRies/Lancelot will be on stage, and is the major draw there, after all. And it struck me that when I first saw him last year (coincidental, because my aunt dragged me along, well gave me ticket for a musical as a gift, in which he was having the lead role, though it was nto the first time I saw him, after this the universe kept on dropping him into my path. lol) Anyway back then about a year ago in my composite with the moment the show started I had an Isis-Osiris-conjunction at 18 and 20 Libra conjunct the composite ASC. LOL It`s just too funny how I saw him with that Isis-Osiris-conjunction (and I think Jupiter-Juno was present as wel), and now there is the Eros-Psyche-opposition (btw while I have Isis-Osiris-conjunction natally, he has Eros-Psyche-conjunction natally, not really interconnected though, it`s just a little intriguing astro-observation) though of course the Isis-Osiris-conjunction back then at 20 Libra was opposite/conjunct his natal Sun-Pluto-oposition from 19 Aries-17 Libra. "Are you going to have a short trip in order to go to the concert?" Yes.
Actually bringing me back to the city where it all started for me so many years ago. My first musicalexperience took place there, and it was a weird one, catapulting me into my spiritual development. The man in question from that long ago, is of course not part of my present day anymore (though his ex-partner for some weird reason is, or has come back crossing my path, simultaneously with Mr Aries.) "Mars is also the Dsc ruler, so this conjunction to Pluto" #well I know of course what I said about the angles, but of course this will be valied for some hours I guess, during the show? And it just strikes me how Mr Aries is, well, an Aries, and with dynamic aspect to Pluto. Almost like a reflection of my event-composite. Odd.
BTW his natal Mercury is also exactly conjunct my composite Moon.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 04:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: Hmm.. it sounds like it might indeed be good to push those boundaries a little bit as you might be pleasantly surprised. The challenge of the situation is shown by the midpoints especially eh?-- it seems like you might be in the midst of situations which are challenging and intense and deep but not "bad"--you know--likely powerful and ultimately kind of a level-up of your ego and self confidence somehow. A new metamorphosis... You're really being empowered somehow or other
The thought struck me, that I might be seeing it too negatively. It could be negative of course, but it could also be just signifying this timeframe that reeks of metamorphosis and transformation, and that is never an easy ride. I wish Jupiter was more part of it as you said, but it is as it is, and well, we don`t know the angles yet.  Also the Saturn-Pluto-Uranus-Neptune one is of course indicating a larger timeframe, I am not getting rid of this one for quite some weeks, maybe even months. *sighs* coupled with Tr Pluto opposing n Saturn exact, Tr Uranus square n Saturn and then heading back to conjunct n Chiron and squaring n Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp, Tr Neptune just having left the square to Mars-ASC, but heading towards the square to Neptune-NN and then cojunct n Jupiter. Did I forget any of the heavy hitters? Because they seemt o always hit everything at once!
I do remember a timeframe though where I had Tr Saturn opposite Moon Tr Uranus conjunct Jupiter Tr Neptune conjunct Moon Tr Pluto conjunct Sun and Mercury Tr Node square Sun and Mercury Well at least back then my poor insecure paranoid Saturn was being spared, and he has been so rattled for the last few years, I mean seriously! pr Moon conjunct Saturn october 13, january 14
sa DESC conjunct Saturn march 14 Tr Node square Saturn december 14 Tr Uranus square Saturn april, november 15; january 16 sa Mars opposite Saturn december 15
Tr Pluto opposite Saturn (march, june 16; january, september, october 17 - of course it has to hit me five times ) pr Saturn conjunct pr ASC april 17
along with all the transits FROM Saturn
Tr Saturn square MOon november 13, june 14, august 14 Tr Saturn conjunct Mars-ASC november 15
Tr Saturn conjunct NN-Neptune december 15, july - september 16 Tr SAturn conjunct Sun-Mercury february 17, may/june 17, november 17 IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 10, 2016 04:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Sunnya, personally I wouldnīt count the MOon-SAturn. Too wide in orb, I am sure there are different opinions on thsi, but since this is a specific day, the orbs should be specific, too. I like the interpretation though
Oops you are right, it is a bit wide. And so I learn. Thank you, I tried  I know it's still awhile, but don't forget to let us know how the concert night went! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 10, 2016 04:27 PM
WEll I looked up the quotidian progressed midpoints for saturday as well, this time only considering exact ones or with ASC/MC (the ASC-MC would be valid for the day) Moon opposite Neptune/ASC 0°28 Moon opposite Node/ASC 1°00 Jupiter conjunct Sun/ASC 0°53 Pluto oppospite Jupiter/ASC 1°08 DESC conjunct Moon/mars 0°36 MC conjunct Jupiter/Uranus 0°36
Mercury square Pluto/MC 0°05 Saturn square Moon/Node 0°01 Uranus square Mercury/MC 0°38 ASC square Jupiter/node 1°00 MOON TO MIDPOINT NODE/ASC Emotional bonds with others; sympathy; caring for others. JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SUN/ASC A good companion, gaining trust and confidence,joint success, public recognition.To enjoy advantages and support from relationships. To form associations that are very fortunate for the native. PLUTO TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC The desire to exercise a good influence upon many people; strong image; influential; leadership.To experience increasing benevolence from others. Good adaptability to the environment. Happy change with others. ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT MOON/MARS Personal enterprise, leadership Acquaintances with woman. Working relations with other people in the surroundings. M.C. TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/URANUS Fortunate powers of adaptability, optimism, a love of change and variety, the attainment of good knowledge and good understanding. A fortunate turn in life.Pleasure over a stroke of luck or good fortune. MERCURY TO MIDPOINT PLUTO/M.C. A great mind, the attainment of recognition and fame in the sphere of science. Thinking big, recognition of intelligence, great powers of suggestion.The development of the cogitative faculty (meditative, to ponder deeply). The forming of ideas.
SATURN TO MIDPOINT MOON/NODE Inhibitions in team work or in living together. Sufferings disadvantages or losses through associations. Separations.
URANUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/M.C. Formulating new objectives; making a sensation; throwing caution to the winds because of great confidence; nerve.To be suddenly notified. To have spontaneous thoughts. To become enraged or excited. very unlikely
ASC TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE Pleasantness with others.
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 10, 2016 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Ceridwen: [b]Mar, you did a wonderful analysis!  Oh really??? I am so happy that you liked it! Thank you very very much!
"Mars and Pluto are square to s/m midpoint," I would not consider it. Midpoints need a very tight orb, like 1°30 at most, so they are out of it. Yes, you are right, my bad. It striked me as rather significant and I thought I should count it, but better keep tight the orbs, I see..
"aybe you are going to feel rather powerful and assertive that day? " I think I did assert myself today, though it did not need that much assertion as I had feared. lol In fact the conjunction of Mars-Pluto was due TODAY, when I wrote the message to her it was at 21 minutes applying. (I guess it is exact somewhere during the night or tomorrow early morning). Unbelievable! Lol "h event and not with him," With whom?
I thought that this event was about meeting someone there, that's why I said "him", I was mistaken apparently, lol, sorry!
" 1) The S.N. conjunct vertex and 2) the IC/MC axis square the vertex." Well we don`t exactly have a precise time, so we can`t consider these, not yet at least. Yes, I saw your comment about this afterwards. "Moreover, Eros forms a very nice opposition to Psyche" This is what struck me, too.
While there is not really a "him", as far as I am aware of now, of course Mr aRies/Lancelot will be on stage, and is the major draw there, after all. And it struck me that when I first saw him last year (coincidental, because my aunt dragged me along, well gave me ticket for a musical as a gift, in which he was having the lead role, though it was nto the first time I saw him, after this the universe kept on dropping him into my path. lol) Anyway back then about a year ago in my composite with the moment the show started I had an Isis-Osiris-conjunction at 18 and 20 Libra conjunct the composite ASC. LOL It`s just too funny how I saw him with that Isis-Osiris-conjunction (and I think Jupiter-Juno was present as wel), and now there is the Eros-Psyche-opposition (btw while I have Isis-Osiris-conjunction natally, he has Eros-Psyche-conjunction natally, not really interconnected though, it`s just a little intriguing astro-observation) though of course the Isis-Osiris-conjunction back then at 20 Libra was opposite/conjunct his natal Sun-Pluto-oposition from 19 Aries-17 Libra. That's interesting, though I know very little, almost nothing about osiris-isis, lol.  "Are you going to have a short trip in order to go to the concert?" Yes.
Amazing how this manifests in the composite!  Actually bringing me back to the city where it all started for me so many years ago. My first musicalexperience took place there, and it was a weird one, catapulting me into my spiritual development. The man in question from that long ago, is of course not part of my present day anymore (though his ex-partner for some weird reason is, or has come back crossing my path, simultaneously with Mr Aries.) "Mars is also the Dsc ruler, so this conjunction to Pluto" #well I know of course what I said about the angles, but of course this will be valied for some hours I guess, during the show? And it just strikes me how Mr Aries is, well, an Aries, and with dynamic aspect to Pluto. Almost like a reflection of my event-composite. Odd.
BTW his natal Mercury is also exactly conjunct my composite Moon.
Indeed!!! Hope all goes well for you! Thanks for your time and feedback! Waiting for the news!  IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2559 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 10, 2016 07:29 PM
quote: Our natal composite to MY event-composite -----------------------------------------Sun conjunct Moon 1°09a (at the beginning of the concert)
Well, that's interesting as in these comparisons BOTH people are involved transit wise. So it's a very intimate connection despite it being YOUR event composite. So during this (let's say) New Moon, which even becoming exact during the concert I suppose, he will receive the same angle from the transiting Moon to his natal Sun as YOU have natally. A pretty recognizable vibe back and forth. And in the crossed version (synastry) the already existing angle between your natal Moon and his natal Sun will be repeated between transiting Moon and your natal Sun. ^ So it's almost as if you can now see things from HIS perspective then, emotionally here as it's the Moon coming into play. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 11, 2016 03:35 AM
mar, "thought that this event was about meeting someone there" Not intentionally. Though I am going to meet a few people there I guess. "osiris-isis, lol." Egyptian equvalent of Twinsoul-pairing (or at least soulmates)
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 11, 2016 03:43 AM
Mir, that is interesting. "which even becoming exact during the concert I suppose," Not quite, it will become exact somewhen after midnight, by then I probably will be back in my hotelroom. lol ----------------------------
as for the concert on saturday and my bleak midpoint in the event-composite of Pluto conjunct Saturn/Neptune, well it just struck me that the composite with Lancelot has that as well, one of the tightest direct midpoints: Pluto conjunct Saturn/neptune. Hu? BTW while the natal composite only has two connections to my event-composite (Neptune conjunct Jupiter 1°02 and Node conjunct Node 2°23), there are some more with his event-composite, though they are not exact:
Sun conjunct Venus 2°46 a Sun oposite Jupiter 2°40 s Moon conjunct Pluto 0°08 (if I have rectified his birthtime correct, if not the conjunction might be wider) Mars conjunct Uranus 0°15 MN conjunct Saturn 2°17 Oh and something I found interesting Tr Sun is conjunct the natal composite Sun.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30736 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 11, 2016 04:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir:
Him/Event;
Venus/Mars midp opp Moon / 0'18 Sun/Venus midp opp Moon / 0'18 Asc/MC midp conj Venus / 0'44 Venus/Node midp conj Jupiter / 0'58 Me/Event; Moon/Venus midp opp MC / 0'22 (at least 1 x Venus haha) Sun/Moon midp conj Jupiter / 0'15 Saturn/Node midp conj Jupiter / 0'15 Moon/Node midp conj Mars / 0'15 Uranus/MC midp opp Moon / 0'02 Jupiter/MC midp opp Uranus / 0'22
I love those midpoints!
so romantic, emotional and inspirational. BTW you only consider conjunction and opposition, i guess?
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4002 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 11, 2016 06:59 AM
"as for the concert on saturday and my bleak midpoint in the event-composite of Pluto conjunct Saturn/Neptune, well it just struck me that the composite with Lancelot has that as well, one of the tightest direct midpoints: Pluto conjunct Saturn/neptune. Hu?"I think often midpoint pictures which are given short shrift/seen as wholly negative are part of an integral web of meaning which must be simultaneously acknowledged (we know this one well though of course!). Pluto=Saturn/Neptune energy is actually possibly positively transformational. I think Sat and Nep together respond well to Pluto. This combo is just begging for something to come and point blank reveal what the heck is ACTUALLY up... Pluto does the job. IP: Logged | |