posted April 15, 2016 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Then what does the marks event represent?

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Each individual experience with the event/experience.

posted April 15, 2016 06:10 PM            

Lol, Sunnya, I just found the time to read thoroughly all the posts for davison here from the beginning and I wanted to thank you as well for bringing this subject up!
This whole thread helped me decipher a lot about davisons!

posted April 15, 2016 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Thanks for the clarification! ^

Lol, Sunnya, I just found the time to read thoroughly all the posts for davison here from the beginning and I wanted to thank you as well for bringing this subject up!
This whole thread helped me decipher a lot about davisons!

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You are welcome sweetheart. Glad it was helpful!

posted April 15, 2016 06:37 PM            

May Marks charts

Yes I think we can do with the events, maybe stretching a little, but so far it seems reliable. Soon I can confirm more too

Okay Your MM chart:

- Hahaha Sun/Eros so tight and cozy together! Yes don't think about it...yet!

Yup Moon/Amor opposing Neptune. Very loving and dreamy. Goes really well with Sun/Eros :P .

Perhaps there is also unseen connection/communication with Merc/Venus in 12th and Neptune on the MC opposing Moon. And the mystic rectangle supporting with Moon, Pholus, Neptune and Pluto :O.

I am really curious about this day lol.

His MM chart:

- OMG Neptune/Psyche conjunct DSC. Talking about dreamland! In a Grand Trine with Moon and Mars/Eros.
Oooh lala he Mars/Eros and you Sun/Eros. Are you sure you don't want to think about this?? LOL
His chart ruler is in the 3rd, so he will probably be chatty too! Moon nearby Ic and Juno exact on IC. Again a soulmate connection theme.
Amor/NN on the MC... Incredible!

I think you should think about it lol .

-- About the next day:

"The sextile between Eros and Psyche is exact, too

And instead of opposing my Sun exactly, THAT evening my EVD Lilith will be opposing HIS Sun exact."

posted April 16, 2016 05:23 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Since the davison event is how we experience the event, because this is what davison is about..

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Actually according to the authors I read it doesn`t represent our experience of the event, but more factually the situation we are placed in (as a combination of the "timequality" and our own personality). It describes what happens and the situation, the process we are being in.

It is then the Marks chart with that EVD that describes more closely how we EXPERIENCE and also how we ACT in that event.

Example:

Event Davison: You are getting promoted and will move abroad because of this
(maybe: Jupiter conjunct Sun on the MC, with Uranus as ruler of IC in 9th house)

That is what happens, and it looks pretty happy, right?
It IS a happy situation, you are being promoted after all!

Now.

Marks-EVD: You are actually a homebody or have just recently met someone you started falling in love with and this move will represent a separation of that person and you feel really depressed about it.

(possibly: Venus, as ruler of Taurus-ASC, conjunct Sun, both on the Scorpio-DESC - indicating that focus on th eother person and falling deeply passionately profoundly romantically in love with them, especially since Sun probably rules the IC, so the base and root of the chart also points at the 7th house of a partner, with Sun as ruler of 4th in 7th.

But that Venus-Sun-conjunction might be square the Saturn-Uranus-Chiron conjunction right on the MC in Aquarius, which would rule the 10th and possibly 9th house, representing the surprising sudden change in status (career-change/ promotion or being fired) which comes as a shock and results in a strong internal tension (SAturn-Uranus angular), and this will be making a great tension with the "love-constellation" on the DESC and in fact, at the same time intensify and electrify it (Uranus square Sun-Venus) but also putting brakes on it, a block, maybe just a delay, or making the connection impossible (SAturn sqare Sun-Venus), and the reason for this is found in the rulership of the 10th and 9th house - here in this kind the moving abroad (9th) for career reasons (10th). -could have been religious difference as well.

I just constructed an imagery example here.

posted April 16, 2016 06:19 AM            

Thank you very much for this thorough explanation Ceri, now it is very clear indeed!!! Haha, I am so happy that I learned that!

posted April 16, 2016 08:56 AM            

youīre welcome, and it helps me, too, being pushed/ moved to verbalize this so I can understand it myself better, not in theory but practically.

posted April 16, 2016 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mar,

youīre welcome, and it helps me, too, being pushed/ moved to verbalize this so I can understand it myself better, not in theory but practically.

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I am glad!

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"Should", that's the keyword...you can never know for sure with my pace of making charts
I 'll probably reach it at once if I start making marks charts, hahahaha

posted April 16, 2016 09:14 AM            

I loved your replies and I will come back to it later.

But for now I just have another one for tomorrow here, for the time the "musical-medley-show" takes place.

The eventchart itself at the beginning (the "mood" of the day in general) shows:

° ASC on 22 Cancer conjunct my n Vertex on 21 Cancer

°Moon on 5 Virgo - no conjunctions to my chart

° MC conjunct Chiron on 23-24 Pisces: a general vibe of exposure? Though not conjunct my chart (wel my Draco Mars-ASC is there)

° Vertex exact conjunct Mars on 8 Sag in the 5th house - and falling really close to my n ASC on 7 Sag and Neptune-NN on 9-10 Sag, on my Atlantis on 8 Sag even more exactly

° Sun exact conjunct Amor on 27 Aries - so a day for soulful Amore I guess, just generally speaking, does not need to pertain to me. in fact it might not. I do not have a planet on 27 Aries, though it struck me that my Dr Venus is on 25 Aries, and my Dr Isis - Osiris on 27-28 Aries

° Mercury on 17°29 Taurus EXACT trine Pluto on 17°29 Capricorn - not that much connected to my chart, tnhough my name asteroid is on 16°57 Taurus and in HIS chart this performer I mentioned has his name on 17°05 Scorpio

° Venus on 14 Aries (conjunct my Draco Sun - Mercury on the guy`s tropical Sun), nothing big beyond this though (and no the square to Pluto is too wide for an event chart )

° the other precise aspect next to Mercury-Pluto-trine is this:

Karma on 2°10 Gemini opposite Valentine on 2°10 Sagittarius - on my n Amor on 2°08 Sag

° And we have another, a third PRECISE aspect tomorrow

Psyche on 27°47 Gemini opposing Pholus on 27°47 Sagittarius - it is connected to my Sun on 25°56 Sag but actually already a bit on the wide side.

Nevertheless i found it amazing that it falls so close to Mr Sag`s Sun-Moon-conjunction and hence on his Sun/Moon-mp on 27°48 Sagittarius!
ONE minute.

Suddenly this song were rushing through my skull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35MwHtRZQIM

and no I do not feel depressed as the song might indicate, just the title made me think of it I guess, and I like the song.

° his tr name conjunct Lilith on 26 LIbra with 2 minute orb, and opposing the Sun-Amor-conjunction. Something in store for people sharing his first name?

It`s of course making a Rectangle with the Psyche-Pholus-opposition as well.

° Eros is on 16 Aqua conjunct my Moon with one degree applying and conjunct HIS SN and Pholus EXACT (it`s - as I always suspected- THE aspect that made me feel like our souls knew each other somehow - btw it is the composite guy )

° Neptune on 11°11 Pisces (!) is conjunct my Jupiter on 11°12 Pisces

So that is just for the general mood of tomorrow and how it might stimulate areas in my chart.

Next up: my Davison chart, after I care for the clothes I am washing. lol

EDIT
I forgot Pallas is there, too

Amor 27°03 Aries
Sun 27°48 Aries

Psyche 27°47 Gemini

his name 26°10 Libra
Lilith 26°12 Libra

Pholus 27°47 Sag

posted April 16, 2016 09:24 AM            

the cradle is damned perfecting!

Also the symmetrical axis is made by the midpoints of Sun/Pallas - Amor/Pallas and Psyche/Pholus, and as you can see it is a line that would run through 27 Pisces-Virgo, funny enough right through Mr Sag`s ASC-DESC-axis on 25 degrees and Saturn on 26 Virgo and Vertex on 28 Virgo.

Though of course he will be somewhere else, maybe something important will happen to him tomorrow? If his child has not yet been born,l maybe tomorrow he will?

Though actually those are not necessarily birth aspects, with Amor, Psyche and Pallas, it somehow has a bit of a different vibe. Hard to grasp.

It might be improtant for my evolution, too as I have my Draco ASC on 26°51 Pisces.

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posted April 16, 2016 10:22 AM            

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First of, it is noteable how very connected the chartshape is.
A one big chain of Sun/Venus-Moon-Pluto-Saturn-Uranus/Neptune, with Pallas, Lilith, Chiron, Ceres being part of it as well.

As for the major planets, I think the Sun-Venus-conjunction is being the one that stands out, being the Apex of a Yod with the Saturn-Neptune-sextile (with Uranus being in proximity as well).

And together with Pallas, which is even more closely connected) the Apex of the T-square with the exact Moon-Pluto-opposition. Notice how in this there is a Moon-Pluto-opposition?

and the Cradle formation actually shares the same symmetrical axis with the Yod and the T-square. this symmetrical (midpoint) axis being at 24-27 Aquarius (and Leo, the placement of the Sun-Venus-Pallas itself)

Of course we could ALSO talk about the Grand Earth trine of Moon at 27 Taurus, Chiron at 27 Virgo and Uranus at 27 Capricorn.

Well the ASC and its ruler is what sets the frame and athmosphere and theme of any chart or event. Here it is on the verge of changing. Maybe the musical show will start a couple of minutes later, but even if not there will be a transition during it into Libra, hence I am using the Libra-ASC here.

Libra on the ASC - so the event has to do with art, music, beauty, harmony, could have been relationship-oriented as well.
But so far this fits amazingly way for a musical-show to start. Libra is very stylish after all.

The ruler of that ASC then is Venus, Venus (!) in the 11th house, and being in total control of the WHOLE freaking chart. Even her being the Apex planet of so many configurations and on the exact symmetry axis of the chart would have led to that insight, but having her as RULER of ASC too, it`s almost like really wanting to bring the message across. Also it seems clear that this is about Libra-Venus, not so much about Taurus-style of things, though it does mingle into it, as Venus rules the 9th Taurus house. Well it is connected to a trip, though a short trip, not as the 9th house usually would make me think. It also leads me back into the city where I went to university. lol

So Libra ASC with Venus in LEO conjunct SUN in 11th house. Thatīs the situation, the event. A beautiful one, with a flair for drama and theatre, couldnīt be more fitting, right? In the 11th house, the house of the audience, it very neatly describes where I will be, what the situation is. lol
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Mars as ruler of 7th house in 1st house, also in Libra is interesting. Almost makes me think of a man (Mars) probably a rather handsome fellow, even an artist(Libra) approaching me, because the ruler of 7th house is in 1st house.

However it might be that this would be more fitting for a Marks-Event-chart.

What it seems to describe is clear though.

Venus, ruler of ASC, conjunct Sun, ruler of 11th house in Leo in 11th house.
Beauty, Theatre, larger groups, being out in public as an individual, being seen.

During the course of the event the Moon-Pluto-opposition most probably will be pushed into the 8th/2nd house-axis, maybe increase some intensity some more.

posted April 16, 2016 12:42 PM            

So the most important information again is being found in the ASC and the chartruler (plus Sun).

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So here we have a Gemini ASC, with Mercury in Aries in 11th house conjunct Moon and Venus.

I guess I am going to be basically quite open and contactoriented in a more nonchalant way, not quite superficial, but just in a chatty, communicative mood, with Mercury in Aries and actually Sun AND Moon AND Venus all in Aries, I guess I will feel quite confident and maybe prone to rather spontaneous expressions.
The 11th house is always intriguing to me,I grasp bits and pieces of it, but not not the essence I guess. HOwever it seems that I am expressing myself tomorrow in that chatty rather extrovert way in larger groups, or where people come together. the 11th house also of course relates to feelings of loveability, as it is the house of love received, the house of the audience, though funny enough MY audience. It`s almost like I am on the receiving end of something. Also being a house near the top of the chart, I might be pretty visible.
Along with Moon and Venus, it seems like a nice charming make up. A nice harmonious Selfpresentation to a larger group/ crowd. lol

Venus is retrograde, in horary retrograde significators often represent either someone having second thoughts and revising a decision OR a coming back, a return, a REUNION. Which I think fits, as I have not seen either composite guy nor the other one for years. lol
And of cours it could also simply mean the reunion with both my aquaintances who will accompany me, both women, and both older, maybe they are simply represented by MOon and Venus joining me as Mercury. lol

Interestingly that triple conjunction takes place on my natal IC AND composite guy`s Mercury-Eros-conjunction (and Mr Sag`s Ceres. lol and near his Dr Jupiter-Amor-Mars)

I am NOT sure how to interprete the square to Neptune, which is actually on the dissolving end, as the planets are moving away from that square, but still, not really a clue.

Amor on the ASC might indicate that I am open to exibit a loving compassionate vibe, but in Gemini, mostly expressed through words or on a more carefree level. not necessarily deeply emotional or intense.

Then we have a very very interesting 7th house.

A few minutes before that Uranus must have actually been ON the DESC.

I checked.
Uranus will be on the DESC exact a bit more than half an hour before the musical-show starts, and right before the beginning of them opening the doors to the visitors and possibly right about the time we will arrive there.

Uranus on the DESC - someone will surprisingly unexpectedly cross my path? Maybe also representing some form of return (Uranus is retro too)?
Or just running into someone exhibiting Uranian qualities?

It also of course indicates that I am generally open to meet other people with Uranus and then Neptune in 7th house, but possibly not in a very personal sense (Uranus and Neptune are not personal after all unless they describe the nature of whoever is going to be there).

Both planets are retrograde, so a blast from the past?

Neptune rules the 11th house, so after having figured out that the 11th house is the "stage" on which i am going to express myself tomorrow, it certainly is interesting that the ruler of that 11th house leads into the 7th house of other people I encounter. Someone I meet becoming the reason for me behaving that way, and even feel like I am on the receiving end of something? Or just generally making me feel good?

But then there is the square. No clue what to make of this.

Also I cannot NOT see how Karma is so close to the DESC when the show starts!

I also like the mutual reception of Jupiter and Uranus, and both angular, msut mean something!
10th and 7th house chained to each other, like one cannot exist without the other. Maybe meeting a 10th house person? Someone who might have some authority, or being very visible, at least to me? Also interesting how Jupiter, ruler of 7th house, is on the MC - might he have some Jupiter-characteristics?
Of course it might simply mean that I am not averse to making my interest in others (7th house) very public (10th house).

Interesting though how the MC is on my natal Moon exact, Jupiter is conjunct by 3 degrees, and something about that degree wants to tell me something, I am just not sure what right now.

I also find the mutual reception between Venus and Mars interesting, though not coming with an aspect, still, interesting.

Then of course we HAVE to talk about Sun, for several reasons actually.

First of all Sun always being heart of any chart, here even more so as Sun rules the IC, the root, the base and the end of matters, and then being the Apex of that Yod!!!

But not just Sun, right?
Sun conjunct Eros conjunct Pholus
(seems I am in a Sun-Eros-time frame at the current time, if I remember the May-chart, too ), hre it comes with Pholus and is placed in enthusiastic Aries.

The sextile as base made by Juno (on the Aries point exact) and the Saturn-Valentine-conjunction.
And all 3 are retrograde as well.
Something (or someone?) is coming back to me, at least for that day, and it feels like serious **** . lol

Well I think that are the important bits, letīs not forget it means basically how I am going to act and become active and express myself. me as a Subject in that situation.

While the 7th house already shows some partners or how I relate to others and whom I meet, the author I mentioned has developed another, slightly crazy but logically consistent idea, in doing the three-quarter-combine. lol

Well the quarter-combine is the same as the Marks chart, and is representing the 1st house, the person themselves, the other, the three quarter one is representative of the 7th house and hence represents what the time offers to us, how the people will be we encounter, so our partners that time.

(in a normal DAvison chart that would be simply the Marks chart of the OTHER person, here in an event Marks chart, you simply make another Davison of the EVD with the EVENTCHART, showing what the timeframe brings to us, instead of showing how WE act during the time. Not sure yet about it, I think probably the first one is good enough to show that, in terms of the 7th house, but hey, let`s see )

posted April 16, 2016 12:51 PM            

But well so here in the three quarter combine we look towards the ASC to see WHO or WHAT PEOPLE I might encounter in that event, and the 7th house will show whom they are going to encounter, well basically the 7th house will show me.

I need to go, but holy moly? See THAT Sun-Pluto-conjunction ?

Oh HOLY **** ! I KNEW I HAD SEEN THAT CHART BEFORE!

It is or WAS my Solar Return chart of the year I was crossing path with Mr Sag for the first time in my life!!!! Universe, you GOT to be kidding me, right?

Well it was not literally the same.

But it WAS the same day, just 11 hours later, so my Solar Return had ASC on 6 Leo, MC on 15 Aries, and Vertex on 24 Sag.
And Moon on 20 Cancer (in 12th house).

Still that hits a little too close for comfort.

posted April 16, 2016 12:56 PM            

I don't laugh at you of course, I just remember my own feeling of mind-blown"ess" at times, hahahha, good for you!!!!
Where is the chart?

ETA : Probably you have no time, I just saw, I'll wait for you to post it whenever you can, this (marks)^2 chart is very intriguing to me!

posted April 16, 2016 12:59 PM            

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with Saturn as ruler of ASC in 7th house retrograde, possibly someone who is having quite a long serious interest in me (though not overly enthusiastic with Saturn), and who comes from the past, or who remembers me?

And with Sun also being about the person in question, in Sagittarius conjunct Pluto. Not going to think about that one. lol

And the planets IN 1st house are also said to represent the person.

The Venus-Chiron-conjunction of course stands out, someone who is vulnerable or has felt hurt?

posted April 16, 2016 01:04 PM            

ETA : Sun/Pluto-Lilith-Amor? Why this reminds me of smething? Or was it lilith only?

And t-square with jup-saturn-mars, jupiter and mars on the angles!!!

posted April 16, 2016 01:29 PM            

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Sorry to pop up, but here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004861.html

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posted April 16, 2016 06:00 PM            

Interestingly this Karma is also conjunct my Neptune-NN exact. And thinking back of course this was the Solar Return for when I crossed path with Mr Sag and it turned out that our first meeting chart would have ASC on 9 Sag (though 2 years later)

the NN on 10 Aries opposping my own Pluto (and on his Draco Mars-Jupiter-Amor. lol)

"ETA : Sun/Pluto-Lilith-Amor? Why this reminds me of smething? Or was it lilith only?"
Interestingly this Lilith opposes my natal Psyche-Lilith conjunction on 24 Aquarius.

And Sun/Pluto well my natal Sun-Mercury is there, but also Mr Sag`s Sun.
But I repeat what on earth should tomorrow have to do with him? Must be just a coinciendence.

"jup-saturn-mars, jupiter and mars on the angles!!!"
Yes, I noticed and Saturn being the focal point, and additionally the main-player in the chart as ruler of ASC in 7th house.

Well knowing Saturn I might not even notice I am being watched, right?

posted April 17, 2016 11:23 AM            

Funny I looked up Anne Ortelee`s account and she wrote at that time approximately: "Mars stations to go retro till 6/29/16. Reverse of all things Mars: men get weird, actions get reexamined."

Men get weird yes indeed.

It`s completely utterly impossible that Composite Guy should have recognized or remembered me, but it seemed very strongly like he did. Still trying to figure out the meaning of that gesture, but I think he wanted to let me know he noticed how much weight I lost.
And that is like: I can`t ******* believe it, he must have meant someone else behind or beside me, but it absolutely seemed like he was looking directly at me (and I wasn`t that far away incidentally).
But you don`t gesture at a complete stranger, do you?
Yet that`s what he`s done, unless he really looked through me to the one behind me. lol But last tme I checked I wasn`t transparent.

But he canīt have meant me. Well I do get, a little bit, why he would be looking at me (cause he wasn`t the only man who did today. lol), but he can`t have remembered me. And if he noticed I lost weight, it means he did, even though there is no way he really rationally speaking could (I haven`t shown my face for 6 years!).

But funny enough, even though it couldnīt be like what it seemed to be, I checked the chart for that moment, and right then the transiting ASC was on 25 Leo; you remember where that Sun-Venus-conjunction in my EVD fell, right? on 24 Leo - and Venus on 24°59 Leo.

In fact the Event Davison for THAT single moment had this

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You also remember, that the 7th house ruler shows the other party, people we might encounter?
Look at this! Ruler of 7th house landing right on the ASC. And it`s mars - a man

What REALLY amazes me about this, however is the fact that composite guy`s natal Sun is at 16°52 Aries!
RIGHT on the DESC of my EVD - HE was the other party I was meant to encounter in some way, or relate to, today. It couldn`t have been more clear astrologically. lol

BTW HIS EVD with that moment has ASC on Cancer with Moon on 15 Cancer - someone felt rather emotional, and Moon and Saturn are known as related to the past. Well actually that Moon fell right onto my natal Saturn.

But then ther is the DESC (me???) on 5 Capricorn with Uranus conjunct by only 2 minutes - he was surprised? Meeting an Uranian other person? in an uranian way?

And my natal Venus is on 6 Capricorn.

So basically speaking, that moment HIS natal Sun fell onto my EVD DESC, and MY natal Venus fell onto his.

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posted April 17, 2016 12:13 PM            

"But last tme I checked I wasn`t transparent."

You really can't believe that it was for you, can you?
Wake up girlllllll

"What REALLY amazes me about this, however is the fact that composite guy`s natal Sun is at 16°52 Aries!
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Well, I was just about to ask you where his Sun is, as I was reading through your post, that's what I thought at least!
And what about his event davison? Maybe you say it later, but I am still reading your post lol

I am pretty sure that things are really obvious astrologically speaking, this beautiful yod and all the connections to your first event-davison? I mean, these are really a lot!
Maybe I oversimplify, but they look really important to me at least !

...ther is the DESC (me???) on 5 Capricorn with Uranus conjunct by only 2 minutes - he was surprised? Meeting an Uranian other person? in an uranian way?"
Wait, your Venus is there, as you probably already know