posted February 21, 2016 10:47 AM            

This is the chart I am talking about. It's him the ASC. Can we say he is finally offering me that poem he has been writing about me lol?

I just noticed that, if my calculations are not off which could well be lol, this Sun/Moon midpoint might be pretty close to be conjunct to my own Natal moon.

posted February 21, 2016 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
He better!!!!

Though with Sun square Neptune it might be very creative, but a tad confusing.

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posted March 31, 2016 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think it is relevant. Angles always are.

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Thanks .

posted April 10, 2016 09:20 AM            

Is it viable to use Davison charts too?

I was exploring and made two Davisons between each other Natals and the event.

Well his Natal + event Davison has Juno exact on my Sun and my Natal with the event Davison has Juno exact on his Sun too. This caught my eye and made me wonder if Davison can also be helpful.

posted April 10, 2016 09:42 AM            

But have not checked it thoroughly.

WEll checking the event of last friday, when at the end of the concert I was given a rose, which should be depicted in the Davison or Marks chart with that moment.

So my Davison of the moment shows

Venus 18°53 Leo
Sun 20°48 Leo
in 2nd house.

That indicates it perfectly i think.

oh and trine Juno 18°49 Sag in 6th house

A very visible sign of getting a gift.

As for the event when Mr Sag was approaching me during the fanmeeting, my Davison with this shows

Vertex 9°06 Leo
Ceres 9°55 Leo
in 8th house

square
Mercury 7°42 Taurus
in 4th house

The subject of the sudden (Venus) talk (Mercury) was the choice of my meal (Ceres/ Taurus, possibly even 4th house).

I guess the difference is let`s say you have a Venus/Mars-conjunction

composite: you fall passionately in love with each other
Davison: you have sex

I wonder if the composite planets that conjunct Davison planets would indicate the emotional stimulus or the motivation for the event taking place in Davison - if that is how we can interprete both! (that is not a given of course)

Oh wow! I never even looked at HIS Davison with the event, and I am scared to try an interpretation of this one.

posted April 10, 2016 09:48 AM            

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When I did wrote the above post I did NOT know he would be having a Venus-Mars-conjunction in the Davison, and no, of course we did not have sex.

posted April 10, 2016 10:15 AM            

And Lilith (again lol) conjunct NN. Sorry for the noob question, what is that symbol at 4º Aquarius in his Davison?

So we can say that the Composite can show what's going on at emotional level and the Davison what is the possible manifestation of that, right?

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posted April 10, 2016 11:01 AM            

"And Lilith (again lol) conjunct NN."
Yes.

" Sorry for the noob question, what is that symbol at 4º Aquarius in his Davison?"
Uranus.

"So we can say that the Composite can show what's going on at emotional level and the Davison what is the possible manifestation of that, right?"
I was thinking along these lines, but I don`t know if I might be simplyfying the issue?
On the other hand there does not seem to be much agreement and most would say composite and Davison have the same meaning despite different calculations.

Anyway Dawn Bodrogi on her blog wrote this:

"Is this also a chart of the relationship? Yes, it is. Is it different from the midpoint chart? Some say no, just work with them and pick your preference. I say yes, they are different, for a good reason.

The midpoint chart is a powerful map of an energetic pattern–our hotspots as a couple. It’s our charisma, our union, who we are when we are together. It is inner-oriented, focused around the pure expression of the energy that occurs when our two like planets meet. The Davison, like all time/space charts, is anchored not in pure expression, but in physical reality. It describes who we are together within our particular life circumstances. Therefore the Davison chart is expressed through the physical reality of our lives. It sees our relationship being acted upon by circumstances, places, other entities/beings involved in the partnership. It has a life of its own, and can be progressed the way any normal chart is progressed, because it has a real time and a real place to anchor it. (Progressed midpoint charts consist of taking the two individual progressed charts and making a midpoint chart from them.) Now here comes the big question, which is more valid? I say both, and I use them both, in different circumstances, depending on the questions being asked of the partnership.

Since the Davison reflects the physical here and now (it’s still a theoretical chart, but it’s grounded in mundane reality) I prefer to use it for physical here and now questions. Mother-in-law issues, or kids driving you both crazy? Davison. Is a move going to affect our relationship? Davison. A third party invading our relationship? Davison to get the picture, and the midpoint chart to figure out why. We feel as if we’re coming apart at the seams, everything is dissolving. Midpoint. We’ve headed into a good patch in our relationship, how long will it last? Midpoint (and Davison if there are specific causes for the good vibes–new job, etc.).

Both charts are highly sensitive to transits (both the actual composites and progressed composites). And both charts are extremely revealing when you put the natal charts around the composite in a biwheel to see how each person reacts to the relationship dynamic (more on this later). Putting a triwheel in place with transits and one of the natal charts will give you an instant, clear picture of one person’s experience of the relationship, and show you how the transit affects both the individual and the partnership.

But again, we must first interpret the composite chart itself. This can get complicated, because sometimes the two composites look very much alike, sometimes they’re flipped, and sometimes one looks nothing like the other. This is not as confusing as it seems, and we will get to that next time. The most confusing thing in composites is in the subtle difference between natal houses and composite houses, and we will explore more of this next time."
http://theinnerwheel.com/2012/04/18/composite-charts-etched-in-stone-or-sand/

posted April 10, 2016 11:05 AM            

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And I think his Natal + event Davison explains well his behavior with me.

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posted April 10, 2016 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
With that New Moon in the 11th house and with Moon ruling the 3rd house - did he start something new in terms of connecting to a social group or friends, or even how he received affection of others? And with the 3rd house involved, that had to do with either communication or maybe literally siblings, neighbours, transportation service, media (also internet)?

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Nope. I am thinking about yesterday and nothing of the sort happened. However, it makes sense what you said and something along those lines could have happened.

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Was it just in his mind though?
Well he did approach me, and Venus rules the 3rd house of communication, so that makes sense.
I guess it was almost a little flirtative

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If you say "almost" and a "a little", I am going to read "definitely flirtative" haha.
I think he looses control a bit around you, especially that day and he couldn't hide (Venus/Mars on the MC...everyone sees it)

Thanks for the link, I love Dawn Bodrogi.

posted April 10, 2016 11:49 AM            

The New Moon is a dark moon, invisible, the seed is being planted, but not yet seen, so give it a few days, maybe something of what he did will have results that make sense int his regard.

"If you say "almost" and a "a little", I am going to read "definitely flirtative" haha. "
You got me!
I am not very experienced in this, but yes, I do think there was some vibe going on, right up to the moment I left and he teased me about how now that I had "scrounged it all", I would simply leave.

He just couldn`t let me go without having the last word, right?
Well I had the last word, as I told him he had me ALL figured out.

" think he looses control a bit around you,"
Yes, maybe sometimes he does. Well before last concert he was observing me through a window of a cafe, where i was with some aquaintances and later joining us on the stairs where we stood in line. Well we did not quite talk directly to each other on that occasion. It was a little weird. Group-talking, that is how i would call it.

"especially that day and he couldn't hide (Venus/Mars on the MC...everyone sees it)"
Yes, including his wife, at least at the point I was leaving, as she had arrived with their son a few minutes before that (actually she arrived exactly the moment I wanted to leave anyway, but then I stayed for half an hour longer, cause I thought it would just look too weird, if I left, just when she came. lol)

and well, she of course heard that last convo between us and looked downright baffled.

Thanks for the link, I love Dawn Bodrogi.

posted April 10, 2016 12:28 PM            

It's awesome we can work with the Composite and Davison and get this dynamic information. I love it.

"You got me!"
You Aqua Moons

"He just couldn`t let me go without having the last word, right?
Well I had the last word, as I told him he had me ALL figured out."

"and well, she of course heard that last convo between us and looked downright baffled"

posted April 10, 2016 12:40 PM            

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How funny! There will be a Sun-Venus-conjunction in 2nd house again for me!
Like last saturday when I was on that concert and was given the rose. (but next month it will be in Virgo, instead of Leo, so I guess not prone to such a grand gesture. )

In fact my evc Venus will be conjunct his natal Mars exact.

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You can muse what might going to happen, if there was anything to happen at all, and I can give you feedback on 16th-17th may then.

posted April 10, 2016 01:05 PM            

Perhaps a smaller but caring gesture.

"In fact my evc Venus will be conjunct his natal Mars exact. "
This is something! I will take this into note when writing what might happen .

"You can muse what might going to happen, if there was anything to happen at all, and I can give you feedback on 16th-17th may then"

Oooh this is going to be fun.
I just need to go do something and I will be back a little later and write. I already see ruler of DSC in the 5th conjunct Vertex and Venus in his EVC, can't avoid being there and getting emotional/lovey dovey. Is he going to sing romantic songs?

I will be back in a little to write more and about both.

posted April 11, 2016 12:24 PM            

- ASC in Leo, very fitting since the event is a concert!

Chart ruler Sun conjunct Venus in the 2nd and is in Virgo Squaring Jupiter. Evc Venus conjunct his natal Mars exact.

Well well. Mars is action in Virgo is subtle but meaningful. Jupiter square could amplify it... He is the Mars here, so I will take a risk in saying that he could do something that will make you feel cared for. Maybe he will do something sweet to you that it's not on everyone's face to see, but you will know it and feel it.

Oh you will definitely feel it with Jupiter square, Moon in Scorpio sextile Neptune and Uranus ruler of the DESC. In addition, Moon rules the 12th with Amor there. Saturn trines Moon keeping emotions under control. However I wonder how much Saturn keeps it cool with Jupiter square at home in Sagitarius... And yours and his Sun ruler.

Those emotions run deep and are very intense even though they are normally well hidden and controlled. Maybe a day when they will come out a bit more.
Pluto is widely conjunct here, but I will mention it since Moon is in Scorpio. It brings up the intensity and Pluto likes to dig what's hidden so... another indication for hidden feelings to come out into the open.

Eros in Aries conjunct MC... Did I say in emotions in the open?
Though since it's a public event, it could only mean the attraction happening in a public context.

Cupido/Pholus in the 3rd, ruler of the 3rd in the 3rd conjunct IC. Besides the under the veil communication and connection, these could mean there will be some sort of important communication, short trip and meeting that day. Cupido brings the romance. There are feelings for someone who talks/interacts with you.
Uranus, ruler of DSC, widely trines the ruler of the 3rd...an unexpected interaction that arises feelings on you.

Summary: Maybe you are going to receive a sweet gesture that is actually bigger than you expect and will make your heart beat and you can't help it but show that you were touched.

His Event Davison

- Holy balls, Eros/Psyche on the IC!

Sun conjunct SN. Jupiter close to DSC

Ruler of DSC in the 5th conjunct Vertex and Venus.

Moon/Vesta sextile Sun and Jupiter exact. Moon/Vesta square Uranus

All points to a nostalgic, romantic night. Maybe what he will sing can make him remember and relive feelings he has for someone from the past/soulmate/past life.

That person could be you of course knowing your story.

I think he will be very lovey dovey that night and Mars sextiles Venus, trines Eros/Psyche... Again some kind of romantic gesture which goes along with what I said about your EVC chart.

I hope I am right and he does something really sweet to you!

posted April 11, 2016 02:38 PM            

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posted April 11, 2016 04:36 PM            

But I have been wondering if it might make sense to see what in our natal and progressed charts might "stimulate" the EVC-Davison of the other person;
in terms of his EVC it does not seem to be so much; however I cannot help but notice how my chartruler Jupiter is EXACTLY on his EVC Sun (and his pVenus is there at the time being).

posted April 12, 2016 09:02 AM            

Hmmm I think it's enough that your chart ruler is on his EVC Sun. It's the chart ruler!

posted April 12, 2016 09:49 AM            

The event-davision describes the situation we are being placed in; the author now states that we can check for our natal chartruler, how it is placed in the Davision, to see how we very subjectively experience a situation (for instance if the chartruler falls into the 12th house of the event-Davison, we might be just a quiet watcher behind the scenes).

that is why I was asking; Mr Sag has two chartrulers, Neptune and Mars (of his intercepted Aries in 1st house).

now for the August meeting his main chartruler Neptune was placed in the 12th house of the event-davison.
funny enough, he was LITERALLY sitting in my back.

However his intercepted chartruler, Mars, was placed near the MC and conjunct Venus (which the author states is the planet of girlfriends, or romantic interests. lol I guess generally females).

It`s almost funny, but in may, his Davison-Event has his natal chartruler, Neptune, placed in the 5th house, and conjunct Venus - AGAIN. (the other chartruler, Mars is in 8th house).
Funny enough in the may-Davison MY natal chartruler Jupiter is in Sagittarius in 5th house, too (of MY Event-davison), and what really really shocks me,w ithin MINUTES of conjunct my natal ASC!

Also I was thinking, I don´t quite know if we will even meet so this moment could be relating to OTHER people.

so I thought to be sure what is relevant to US together, I would need to make a Davison of our Davison with the event.
But to try it out I first made a Davison with the august meeting, and I was so jolted cause that one showed an ASC of 13 Capricorn I believe (conjunct Jupiter) which was closely conjunct our basic Davison-ASC!!!

posted April 12, 2016 09:53 AM            

In your Event-Davison, Pluto (your natal chartruler, and therefore your subjective experience of the moment) is conjunct the Davison chartruler Mercury and opposite Psyche!
Granted it is in 6th house (which I find weird, esp. since his Davison-ruler is also in 6th house). but it seems like that was a very DETERMINING moment for you.

posted April 12, 2016 11:19 AM            

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Funny enough in the may-Davison MY natal chartruler Jupiter is in Sagittarius in 5th house, too (of MY Event-davison), and what really really shocks me,w ithin MINUTES of conjunct my natal ASC!

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so I thought to be sure what is relevant to US together, I would need to make a Davison of our Davison with the event.
But to try it out I first made a Davison with the august meeting, and I was so jolted cause that one showed an ASC of 13 Capricorn I believe (conjunct Jupiter) which was closely conjunct our basic Davison-ASC!!

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OMG!! You are really into something here!

That is amazing that ends up back at your Davison ASC! And next one in May has to be with you, it's so exact on your own ASC!
I am going to do some older charts to compare too, this is a gem.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow! this is GOLD!

In your Event-Davison, Pluto (your natal chartruler, and therefore your subjective experience of the moment) is conjunct the Davison chartruler Mercury and opposite Psyche!
Granted it is in 6th house (which I find weird, esp. since his Davison-ruler is also in 6th house). but it seems like that was a very DETERMINING moment for you.

For him Venus, his own chartruler, is actually the chartruler of the Davison! and also in 6th house. It`s interesting how comparable and similiar tthose results are for both of you. Still not sure what the 6th house means in this regard

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Wow! So we show it too! Well the context where we will meet in the weekend is again at his work and what he does everyday, perhaps that's what 6th house means here (at least for him).
I am going to check other Davisons after the weekend when we will probably meet too but he won't be working that time and see what the 6th is doing.