posted February 14, 2016 02:30 PM            

Especially Tr Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Pluto/

conjunct/opposite/square

composite Sun/Moon/ASC/MC/Vertex/Venus/NN

posted February 14, 2016 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yeah, naturally ATROPOS on 4°18 Aries at the moment, and in fact yesterday at the moment, it was conjunct the DESC on 04°36 Aries

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The Great Picture moment? I'm in the process of writing you an email.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have the feeling he will either completely disappear from your (emotional) life (which is the unlikely thing to happen) or he will come back in your life, and probably not just as a spirit, but in person.

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It did feel like a shift, but I can't imagine anything ever shifting.

Except my dreams...but they're just dreams.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Moon opposite Node/MC
Venus conjunct Moon/ASC
Jupiter conjunct Sun/ASC
Node conjunct Mercuy/MC
IC conjunct Moon/Mercury
IC conjunct Moon/Venus
ASC square Moon/Jupiter

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posted February 14, 2016 02:45 PM            

"he Great Picture moment?"
Yes, that Black-and-White-picutre was just a total WOW moment for me.
And in a weird way a centering one and like adjusting perspective.
I have been hearing tidbits about him for the whole evening, but it feels strange to listen to other people talking about him, that outside perspective, seeing him through the eyes of others just felt weird, but I was hardly aware this was what happened (and made for that strange feeling of disconnection and dislocation), and just when I became aware of that strangeness that weird "looking at him through THEIR eyes", he posted the picture, and somehow that shifted the perspective considerably, though I cannot even describe how.

"but they're just dreams. "
hardly.
They are means of communication.

"Love these!2
Yeah they were nice.

posted February 14, 2016 03:58 PM            

Long time no talk. Just sent the email.

"just when I became aware of that strangeness that weird "looking at him through THEIR eyes", he posted the picture, and somehow that shifted the perspective considerably, though I cannot even describe how."

Aw, as if he was responding to your confusion....and saying, "You want to know what I REALLY feel?"

I think it's very sweet and oddly personal...

I wonder if he knew you had "strayed" and that you were going to be there looking at Lancelot, and wanted to offer his opinion via facial expression. Picture says a thousand words.

posted February 14, 2016 05:23 PM            

"Aw, as if he was responding to your confusion....and saying, "You want to know what I REALLY feel?""
LOL oddly that was EXACTLY what I felt about it, too.

Well you know how it is with thoughts, how they can get a life of their own. And just a few hours before there was this thought rushing through my mind, into his direction: "I miss you. I wish you could be here as well."
It was odd, because there are different ways of "thinking". This thought seemed to have "substance" somehow, and I wasn`t consciously sending or thinking it, but it was there.
And well there have been some rare occasions when that happened, but only a little over the last years.
And everytime that "thought with substance and direction" happened, he would post something just within an hour or so. So he certainly did not disappoint yesterday either. Sometimes I relaly wonder if he can hear my thoughts (at least the ones with substance. lol)

"I wonder if he knew you had "strayed" and that you were going to be there looking at Lancelot, and wanted to offer his opinion via facial expression. Picture says a thousand words."
LOL
If so he wasn`t charmed I guess.

Well actually it is not totally impossible that he knew. Messages travel fast these days.

posted February 14, 2016 09:35 PM            

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BTW did you see the video by Cochrane on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yupihXLmqXE

Later in the video he stresses the importance of the 9th armonic composite.

WEll I am not yet clear what constitutes a "strong" 9th harmonic composite.

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No I didn't! I had no idea he was using those 9th harmonic composites but I do get it now (from his video);

[fiducial = starting point]

I'm also very amazed looking at (just) my own composite 9th harmonic charts.

So clearly tight conjunctions and oppositions in there .. waay more than in the normal composite. I will look at more..

And: what a pity most here can't see them at a glance! (only when downloading the right software / interested? let me know!)

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posted February 15, 2016 05:30 AM            

the midpoint structure of my parent`s 9th harmonic composite (as Cochrane sais you can look at these, too, but I am using only direct ones, conjunction and opposition within 1° orb, because he does so, too, I think)

Sun conjunct Moon/Node

Mars opposite Uranus/ASC
Mars opposite Pluto/Node wide (1°11)

Saturn conjunct Jupiter/Neptune
Saturn conjunct Venus/Mars

Uranus opposite Mars/Saturn wide 1°03
Uranus opposite Mars/jupiter

Neptune opposite Uranus/Pluto
Neptune opposite Sun/Uranus

And their planetary conjunctions/ oppositions are

Sun conjunct Pluto 0°59
Sun opposite Jupiter 2°15
Sun opposite Saturn 5°11 wide
Jupiter conjunct Saturn 2°56
Jupiter conjunct Neptune 5°30 wide
Jupiter opposite Pluto 1°16
Saturn conjunct Neptune 2°34
Saturn opposite Pluto 4°12
Mercury conjunct ASC 3°11

well I did notice however that Venus makes an antiscion / solstice point aspect to Saturn with an orb of 0°11
Which I find interesting as it sort of connects Venus to their big opposition with the outers mainly. Venus is not in orb of being solstice point to the others though, but Saturn is on the midpoint of Jupiter/Neptune (0°11) and Venus/Mars (0°11), so I find that intriguing. Not sure how to weigh it yet, and if it is even important, but I noticed it at least. lol

posted February 15, 2016 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You see the effects on the relationship, yes, not sure what you mean by "feel" in this case.

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posted February 15, 2016 06:21 AM            

Our PD-software gives another 9th harmonic MC compared to astro.com.
ASC and the rest is the same with both programs, so only the MC!

My 9th-h MC with PD - 26 Libra
My 9th-h MC with Astro.com - 14 Leo

His 9th-h MC with PD - 00 Gem
His 9th-h MC with Astro.com - 21 Taurus

posted February 15, 2016 12:00 PM            

Saturn opposite Juno 0°40
- which is just unbelievable close! After all the 9th harmonic enlargens the natal composite 9 times, so it means they must have some 9th harmonic aspect between Saturn and Juno in their composite iwth an orb of 4-5 minutes-
in fact Saturn and Juno are novile each other with 4 minutes of orb.

Sun conjunct Pluto 0°57
Jupiter opposite Pluto 1°16
Juno opposite Neptune 1°53
Sun opposite Jupiter 2°13
Saturn conjunct Neptune 2°34
Saturn conjunct Jupiter 2°56
Jupiter opposite Juno 3°36
Pluto conjunct Juno 4°53
Jupiter conjunct Neptune 5°30
Sun conjunct Juno 5°50

Moon conjunct Antivertex 1°30

ASC conjunct Mercury 6°58
ASC conjunct NN 7°38
MC conjunct mean Lilith 7°50

in case anyone wonders about the orb, I used 8°, for once David Cochrane mentioned that he was using the orb for the 9th harmonic synastry, secondly and conjunction or opposition in the 9th harmonic composite having 8 degree orb, will still be under 1 degree in the natal composite, so I think that`s definitely on the safe side. Anything under about 4°30 is really really tight imo, because it will only have a 30 minute orb in natal composite.

So the groups of

Juno-Pluto-Sun (19-24 Virgo)
opposite
Neptune-Saturn-Jupiter (17-22 Pisces).

posted February 15, 2016 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I mean would the two people with the composite chart act a certain way with each other. Depending on what the transits are? Like how would two people who have a Mars trine Mercury transit act with each other? During the time of the transit would they maybe communicate more with each other?

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A trine will not be strong enough.
Aspects that have the most effect on composite charts are conjunction, opposition and square.

But let`s say you have Tr Mars conjunct composite Mercury.

First of all there is a distinction between outer and inner planets, also because the transits of inner planets are usually quick moving; even a Mars-transit will not last that long.

But for the time it lasts, if it conjuncts the composite Mercury, it can POTENTIALLY raise the desire to talk and communicate.

But actually what it really does, is triggering your composite Mercury, and however Mercury is placed in the composite, and what it aspects, that is what will happen.

So for example if you have real communication issues in the composite by let`s say Mercury square Saturn, and Tr Mars conjuncts Merucry (and also squares Saturn of course), it will bring these issues in sharp focus, and instead of increasing the communication it might actually shut it down (cause the constant criticising might just get too much).

However if Mercury is conjunct Venus and opposite Jupiter, this might be a great opportunity for a really beautiful and sparkly communication to begin.

posted February 15, 2016 10:29 PM            

What I totally love about ours is that we both have a 9th h Venus/Neptune conj, mine applying to the Sun and his ofcourse separating (venus then) by globablly a sextile, to get this in Compo;
Sun - 22'51 Pisces
Venus - 23'47 Pisces
Neptune - 22'24 Pisces

Funny thing is that in the 9th h TRANSIT chart of our first meeting Venus was in pisces like we both have in our natal 9th h, and this opp. Neptune exact.

For the rest in our Compo 9th;
Moon - 15'51 sag
Uranus - 15'37 sag

^ amazing about this one is that the underlying 9th h DW aspects are exact conjunctions (0'14 / 0'42).

And the last 'outstanding' things in our 9th Compo;
Mars - 15'39 Aqua
Jupiter - 8'49 Taurus
Mercury - 11'40 Scorpio

^ TRANSIT 9th h Mercury - 15'56 Scorp

Ow and let's not forget this in our compo 9;

Saturn - 23'21 Libra
NN - 26'54 Aries

^ 9th h TRANSIT chart: Sun&Pluto conj by 0'12 at 28 Aries. And Saturn 22'20 Aries! Mars 1'27 Taurus, Jupiter 5'47 Taurus and Sun/Moon midpoint 7'32 Taurus.

Compo ASC = 18 scorp LOL! (and 9th h TRANSIT Moon at 17 Taurus)

I had them all I guess.. (NO, I forgot Pluto at 14'23 Virgo square Moon/Uranus)

posted February 16, 2016 01:19 AM            

yes, the angles are the same on SF and astro.com, mostly because I edited SF and picked the same progression method as astro.com uses.
We have to be a little careful with angles anyway, as they of course will move very quickly, especially in the higher harmonics.
I am using mine, because my birthtime is absolutely certain (birthcertificate and rectification). Same goes for Mr Sag (no birthcertificate that I ahve seen, but rectification, and every method only worked perfectly with that minute, which is actually 4 minutes later than the rounded time he told me).

Anywa love the Venus-Neptune-Sun - so dreamy and romantic (not sure about the square of Mars to Mercury and Jupiter, the squares shouldn´t actually exceed 2 degree orb, if we are using 8 degrees for oppositon and conjunction, but the Mercury-Jupiter is definitely wow!)

Interesting idea about 9th harmonic transit, never checked it myself.

Orange,

posted February 20, 2016 08:05 PM            

That a multi composite made by the chart of two people and an event (where they are involved) and that chart became almost identical to one of the people involved.

Going further in detail, say if one of the people involved had their ASC exact conjunct the multi composite ASC. Would you suggest this person would be the most affected by the event with the other person? Would this seem as fated even for them?

posted February 21, 2016 08:54 AM            

Yea I thought this would be meaningful and the orb is 1º, so it's tight. And Sun is conjunct DESC too on the multicomposite lol.

Thanks for replying