posted April 09, 2016 06:44 PM            

Anyway actually his Sun on 00 Cap is on my Vesta on 01 Cap.

His Eros is on 06 Cap, exactly on my Venus on 06 Cap

his Venus is on 10 Cap, his Spirit is on 09 Cap.
my Spirit is on 10 Cap

Draco synastry is not all that impressive I guess
Or maybe just different than the one with Mr Sag.

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posted April 09, 2016 08:31 PM            

As for Mr Sag and me, well the tropcial synastry has its strengths and its flaws, what fascinates me most about it however is that, unlike any other synastry I came across for me, this one seems to be more centred around the personal planetary aspects than the outer ones to personal planets, especially the lack or the harmony of Pluto in here. The greatest challenge I think is in the Mercury-aspects to my Neptune and his Saturn. I confuse him and he makes me tongue-tied (sometimes ).

posted April 09, 2016 10:28 PM            

@Auntie

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Our NNs are in different signs but still conjunct I suppose, Saturns are in different signs and way beyond a conjunction. You need to get better at stalking my chart.

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Oh I forget HIS chart actually. Hmm, Saturn in late Aqua, quincunx Pluto.

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If I recall your chart well, your Saturn isn't close enough (my SN - 28 Cancer) and if I'm right then sorry that you weren't my daddy

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??? LOL

My Saturn 0 Leo.

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Btw, why did you mention it?

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Why did I mention Elvis?

1) Habitual/reflexive
2) You said that I restore your faith in humanity, and that is the kind of thing Elvis was interested in and would have talked about: people having faith in humanity. And that sparked this whole other feeling I get sometimes...where you remind me of him.
3) You gave me a compliment so I gave you one.

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Btw2, my Sun rules the 12th (previous life they say) and his Sun is on it. His Pluto in the 8th and ruling the 12th conjunct my SN. His ASC ruler conjunct my Pluto. Maybe I should get that past life regression

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posted April 09, 2016 10:58 PM            

"hmm the tropical synastry with Mr Cap is not that good either. Granted, if he had not been gay, the Venus-Venus-Mars-Pluto alignment could have been pretty hot, but that plus the nice trine between my Sun and his Moon-ASC is really pretty much all that is there"
Ohhh, it isn't? Sorry, I admit that I didn't delve into it and I am still learning, so maybe I focused too much on the positive things that I saw in a brief look.

posted April 09, 2016 11:01 PM            

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Good night Faith!

P.S. So weird that you mention "the Cancer/Cap axis", what is happening today anyway? lol, I mean both Ceri and you just mentioned 2 things that I discovered just today and been wondering about.. Perhaps I'll tell you tomorrow

posted April 10, 2016 12:15 AM            

m = my and h = his

0° m.Mars conjunct h.Uranus
0° m.IC conjunct h.Mars
0° m.Lilith conjunct h.Chiron
0° m.Moon opposite h.Psyche
2° m.Moon conjunct h.DSC

I was researching this Draconic stuff because I’ve never really used it. I read Orange explaining how they’ve noticed draconic to draconic synastry explains the way the couple met and what the overall purpose is for their time together. I see this in how we first met. It was online and I commented on how he was fibbing about his behavior. I said exactly what I thought his behavior was and he later told me that it really surprised him because I was right. This surprised him because he’s very private. In fact every personal planet is aspected or ruled by Pluto in his chart and only Saturn maintains lordship over himself, Uranus and Neptune. Although, being Plutonic he said nothing at the time this occurred and I had to ask him about it. He then said that he “thought things would have escalated quickly had we been in person.” Lol hello Mars/Uranus!

The only one I can’t really put my finger on is Lilith/Chiron. Does anyone have a clue as to how these two interact?

These aspects keep playing out in odd ways and seem to relate to some dreams I’ve had of a person I would meet. I don’t put much stock into that sort of stuff but when I look at these aspects and what they signify I find myself doubting so much coincidence. I wonder if the draconic chart could be the symbolism of the person coming into your life and that symbolism can be seen first in your dreams (draconic = soul connection) and then it manifests into reality (drac+trop and trop+trop).

In fact, one of the dreams I had was located in my hometown near the home I grew up in. I was immediately terrified of him and I ran away, taking a shortcut that I was sure he wouldn't know about. It led to the back of my house and I started walking toward this tree that would lead me to the front yard. Just as I reached it the man appeared, pulling a branch aside and stepped through toward me. The fear I had in the beginning was still there but I could see that his eyes were extremely watery, caring and sad.

This is interesting because in our draconic charts his Mars is conjunct my IC in Cancer.

posted April 10, 2016 05:32 AM            

I looked up my parents Draco birthdays in the Secret language, but I don`t think they really fit all that well (some things are spot on, but others seem very off). like

"Love affairs can peak quickly in the bedroom, then fall off in their intensity over a period of months. When the thrill is gone, the relationship may have little left to sustain it emotionally. The partners sometimes marry for other-than-romantic reasons, particularly money, power or social prestige"

Well, I guess the thrill is still pretty much there after over 40 years, and they did marry for love definitely, and I think it really is the mix of their emotional and intellectual connection that maintains the attraction and display of affections, so this seems off.

Also I am really pouting about the nasty bad things they say about Mr Sag and me.

Well these I found interesting (also that I am apparently Week of the STar, and he is the Persuader-one; somehow I`d have thought he`d be the Star. lol)

"Strikingly independent, this relationship chafes against almost any form of restraint. Together, this pair will overturn structure willy-nilly. "
(actually this would fit our elevated composite-Uranus)

"Those born during the Week of the Persuader are often thoroughly convincing people who could sell a salesman back his own product, but they may have little luck with Week of the Star individuals. For one thing, Week of the Star folks are so busy striving toward their career goals that they usually have no time to stop and listen to Week of the Persuader person’s sales pitches. For another, Week of the Persuader people may become so dazzled by a Week of the Star person that they get tongue-tied and lose their chance"

- HA did I not say it? He`s got to do MORE of an effort to impress me.
BTW he decided to resurface fb-wise, but with more randomness. Hmm. -

"In any event, these two will usually lack both the shared traits and concerns that would hold their relationship together emotionally and the ability to handle the independence required here."
- Pfft : that is what I say to this!!

For my brother and his gf it sais this:

"In love affairs, Week of the Originator people and their Week of Determination partners may be carried away on the wings of fantasy, but their idealistic interactions may in fact have surprising longevity. Marriages between these imaginative Week of the Originator–Week of Determination couples may not fare so well when confronted with the humdrum routine of domestic life. "

Well they`ve been together for 10 years this last 1st april, and been living together and sharing a household for at least 6 years, so I guess they have figured it out.

So hmm, no, sorry to say but these do not seem too spot on for me.

posted April 10, 2016 05:48 AM            

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[B] I wonder if the draconic chart could be the symbolism of the person coming into your life and that symbolism can be seen first in your dreams (draconic = soul connection) and then it manifests into reality (drac+trop and trop+trop).

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Yes, I´ve noticed that too and wondered about it. In fact if anyone claims to have a spiritual relationship with someone else, it is the Draco-Draco I check first.
And it never fails.

BTW interesting Draco-story you had there. And fitting, there is something with strong Draco-connections like people can see each other for what they really are, no matter how they act or sometimes putting on an act.

posted April 10, 2016 06:18 AM            

you asked about Mr Cap`s and my tropical-draconic overlays. Here they are: (orb 3 degrees, conjunction and opposition)

his Uranus conjunct my Dr DESC
his Uranus opposite my Dr Mars exact
his Saturn conjunct my Dr Mars
his Saturn conjunct my Dr ASC
(his Chiron conjunct my Dr Amor exact
his Pluto opposite my Dr Amor)

his Mercury opposite my Dr Lilith

his Sun opposite my Dr Jupiter-Ceres
his Ceres conjunct my Dr Jupiter-Ceres

his Lilith conjunct my Dr Neptune exact (on the last degree of the zodiac, 29 Pisces)
his Lilith conjunct my Dr ASC

his Moon-ASC conjunct my Dr Venus

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my Jupiter conjunct his Dr Moon (-ASC)
my Juno conjunct his Dr Moon

my MC conjunct his Dr Neptune
my Pluto conjunct his Dr Neptune

my Uranus conjunct his Dr Mercury

my Sun-Mercury opposite his Dr Juno

my Pallas conjunct his Dr Chiron-Saturn
my Pallas opposite his Dr Uranus exact

my Moon conjunct his Lilith
my Moon conjunct his Pallas exact

posted April 10, 2016 06:37 AM            

his Sun opposite my Dr Ceres
his Moon opposite my Dr Ceres exact
his Moon opposite my Dr Jupiter
his IC conjunct my Dr Jupiter
his IC conjunct my Dr Ceres

his Mercury opposite my Dr Moon

his Venus conjunct my Dr Pluto
his Venus conjunct my Dr MC
his Juno opposite my Dr Pluto
his Juno conjunct my Dr IC

his Saturn opposite my Dr Mars
his Saturn opposite my Dr Neptune
his Saturn conjunct my Dr DESC exact
his ASC conjunct my Dr Mars exact
his ASC conjunct my Dr ASC
his AVX conjunct my Dr Mars
his AVX conjunct my Dr Neptune
his EP conjunct my Dr Mars
his EP conjunct my Dr Neptune
his EP conjunct my Dr ASC
his POF conjunct my Dr Mars
his POF conjunct my Dr Neptune
his POF conjunct my Dr ASC exact

his Pluto opposite my Dr Vesta exact
his Pluto opposite my Dr EP
(his pluto widely opposite my Dr Venus 4°34)

his Pallas conjunct my Dr Uranus

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my Sun widely opposite his Dr Uranus (3°54)
my Mercury opposite his Dr Uranus

my Venus opposite his Dr Mercury
my WP widely conjunct his Dr Mercury (3°48)

my Mars conjunct his Dr Chiron
my Neptune conjunct his Dr Chiron
my ASC conjunct his Dr Chiron
my NN conjunct his Dr Chiron

my Saturn conjunct his Dr Neptune
my Vertex conjunct his Dr Neptune

my Chiron widely conjunct his Dr Lilith (3°33)
my POF opposite his Dr Lilith exact
(and I have not yet looked up the other asteroids, but I know from the top of my head that my POF is conjunct my Aphrodite, so my Aphrodite has to be opposite his Dr Lilith, too)

my Pluto opposite his Dr Mars exact
my Pluto opposite his Dr Jupiter
my IC widely conjunct his Dr Mars (4)
my IC widely conjunct his Dr Jupiter (3°48)

my Lilith opposite his Dr Venus (0°03)
my Lilith conjunct his Dr Juno
(not sure what to make of this, but found it interesting that the other aspects of my Lilith to his Draco planets are all "blue", all trines and sextile to his Saturn/DESC/Vertex/WP alignment, well his Aphrodite is there as well)

posted April 10, 2016 06:49 AM            

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Yes, I´ve noticed that too and wondered about it. In fact if anyone claims to have a spiritual relationship with someone else, it is the Draco-Draco I check first.
And it never fails.

BTW interesting Draco-story you had there. And fitting, there is something with strong Draco-connections like people can see each other for what they really are, no matter how they act or sometimes putting on an act.

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Yes, that's very apt. I've noticed this person acts as if they are untouchable but for some reason I always feel that they're far more sensitive and caring than they show. I've said as much in different ways but I think he never responds to truth like he doesn't want anyone to know things about him.

The age old question "who feels what?" is on my mind about draconic to natal contacts. Is it the natal person that is being pushed or the draconic person being pushed to manifest the energy?

These are our contacts.

My draconic to His natal

0° d.ASC/DSC conjunct n.Anti-Vertex/Vertex

0° d.Jupiter opposite n.Moon
0° d.Venus opposite n.Uranus
1° d.Mercury conjunct n.Psyche
1° d.Moon conjunct n.North Node
2° d.Sun conjunct n.Mars

My natal to His draconic

0° n.Moon conjunct d.Lilith
0° n.DSC conjunct d.Sun
0° n.Jupiter conjunct d.POF
0° n.Sun opposite d.Mercury

1° n.Vertex conjunct d.Venus
1° n.Venus conjunct d.Anti-Vertex

1° n.Psyche conjunct d.Mercury

2° n.Vertex conjunct d.IC

posted April 10, 2016 07:45 AM            

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My Saturn 0 Leo.

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I love this. I want a past life regression too. Funny though, I haven't seen him in any dreams or anything in so long...that already feels like a past life.

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posted April 10, 2016 10:44 AM            

Yes it *can* be that, though it is more likely if the aspect were a square or an opposition and even then it is not a MUST.

We actually have the DW-conjunction (though his Neptune is just short of 5 degrees conjunct my Mercury, so a little wider), but of course it comes up as conjunction n our composite, so it is a very vital part of our dynamics, in composite Sappho is part of the conjunction.

Interestingly, his Mercury and my Neptune, both are 3rd house rulers for us natlly, so that makes it even MORE communication-oriented.

It sometimes feels like the nonverbal communication works much better than verbal one. And I guess I must drive him crazy seeming somehow elusive or confusing or unclear to him. my Neptune is also square his Mars AND his Eros-Amor-opposition after all!
I always wondered myself why it is almost like I am I don´t know coming close and then slipping away, and it is not really HIS doing, it`s me.

Well that line he was singing, before getting totally off-kilter on that concert back then culminating in the crazy-comment, anyway that line that was the trigger to that, when he was looking at me: "The vision that was not quite real"

I feel it is a perfect description of that aspect.
Sappho in the composite aligned with that is certainly interesting, too.

BTW our composite SN is in 3rd house and our Davison SN as well. Chiron is in 3rd house, too. so the area of communication is clearly something that is important to figure out. Certainly with Mercury also dispositing our natal nodal axis (my SN, his NN) and with his Mercury conjunct my NN.

But apart from the communication-area it is also relationship-oriented, as Mercury rules the DESC for both of us, Neptune rules his ASC, and his Saturn is a very strong relationshipplanet for him (conjunct DESC exact on the Vertex and WP, in Virgo, so there you have the Mercury again ).

Nevertheless I think it is a good thing we have some really strong Mercury aspects otherwise, like my Mercury conjunct his Sun, Moon and MC, and his Mercury conjunct my Mars and ASC, square my Jupiter (in my 3rd house ) and sextile my Pluto.

posted April 10, 2016 11:23 AM            

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I haven't thought about that and now that I am thinkig about it from 4-5 synastries of myself, my parents and my friends that I have seen this period, I haven't seen this kind of personal planetary aspects either. Hmmmm, interesting that things can get so deep, without any Pluto in the mix. :thinking:

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Quite the reverse for me!
Actually those relationship that were soley or dominantly based on Uranus, Neptune, Pluto in strong aspect to the personal planets but with no personal interconnection to back it up, never lasted for long, or if they did, there seemed to always been this "issue-orientedness".

Granted, while it did last and the people came together, there seemed to be a highly compulsive draw.

With a connection based mostly on personal aspects the attraction seems to be more rooted in two personalities somehow connecting to each other, than that compulisve moth-to-flame scenario, and it might take a longer time to build up incidentally.

HOwever usually you see a mix of these.

so it`s all good in most cases. lol

As for interpersonal depth, try:

Moon, Lilith/Priapus, IC and its ruler, 8th house and its ruler

posted April 10, 2016 03:38 PM            

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BTW interesting Draco-story you had there. And fitting, there is something with strong Draco-connections like people can see each other for what they really are, no matter how they act or sometimes putting on an act.

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Yes

Though to be honest I have mixed feelings about my draco sun, because it's conjunct my SN, and this behavior (third decan Taurus, rather wild and candid and free) is something I have never felt quite right about (as if I need to leave even myself behind, to attain Scorpio NN...and indeed, some of the "egoless-ness" teachings appeal to me most.)

posted April 10, 2016 03:40 PM            

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If you feel abandoned and need a new sensei, I'm at your service.

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posted April 10, 2016 03:55 PM            

I don´t believe in leaving anything of yourself behind. (my Draco MOon is on my SN)
For me it is rather that you take it with you and possibly use it to get a better handle on the things you are developing.

For instance giving the Scorpio-lessons or whatever a tangible expression, because that is what you have already learned, but now you use that skill to express the NN.

posted April 11, 2016 06:45 AM            

It's a long story what I meant there. No we never leave ourselves behind, totally...but my Scorpio NN wants me to transform, and keep transforming, so remnants of myself go dormant. Something like that.

Your draco moon/SN is conjunct my daughter's tropical moon-NN.

@Auntie

So I was dreaming of something and I heard "Hello" and my oldest son was standing in front of me. I was so confused at the abrupt change, and why he would barge into my dream, then I remembered that I had invited you into my dream! He disappeared (not tragically, just magically) and then you were there invisibly, too. I just knew you were tall.

So I couldn't see you, you just handed me something like a blue opal, some glowing sea-green rock...

And said your name is Imla. I've never heard of that name before.

I looked that up...the Kabbala reading sounds like you Not the bad parts, obviously.

http://www.kabalarians.com/Female/Imla.htm

It means Whom God will fill up. Filled to capacity.

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I looked for info on blue opals and found things like:

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Blue Opal is a stone that will soothe erratic emotions and enhance personal courage.

Enhances your ability to communicate what is in your heart
Helps in overcoming those things you do to yourself that are harmful
Strong connection to the sea and creatures of the sea (dolphins, mermaids, etc.)
The opal is said to be many things including the most powerful of healing stones, the stone of hope, the stone of great achievement and even the "stone of the Gods".

It is said to be the stone of love, but only to faithful lovers. The opal will bring misfortune to an unfaithful lover.

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Blue Opal, also known as Andean or Peruvian Opal, is a variety of Common Opal that does not carry that “opal fire”. It is a lovely pale blue to blue-green stone to keep with you as it helps to bring the joy back into your life. A stone of communication and creativity, Blue Opal allows you to speak your mind without fear or recrimination. It can help you believe in your own abilities and attract like-minded people into your life.

Blue Opal can be used for protection during spiritual journeying or astral travel. Acting like a GPS, the Blue Opal can help you to select and locate a specific time or place that will aid you in your understanding. Blue Opal is often used to induce the hypnotic state or facilitate divination.

Physically, Blue Opal is said to balance the metabolism, help with mineral absorption and iron deficiency, ease fatigue and soothe childhood illnesses.

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Nice, especially the GPS part. So you're visiting me next time? I don't remember my last night dreams, maybe for a reason.

And yes, I can relate to the name description more or less. It's suspiciously Capricornian.

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Well if I add an "a" to the end of my nickname, it's like I change from loser to Superwoman....hmmmmm

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posted April 11, 2016 10:45 AM            

You're too funny.

But wow, thank you for the blue opal readings! I definitely need one.

Good for *astral travel* ? GPS?

Hmm, did you know Elvis used to give people gemstones as gifts? I actually forgot that until a second ago. He gave one friend (guy) an emerald ring (for spiritual reasons) the year before he died....researching...

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The King of Bling

Bling may be associated with hip hop artists, but musicians began wearing gemstone jewelry long before hip hop and rap. In fact, the King of Rock N Roll was also the king of bling. Elvis Presley owned an incredible collection of gemstone jewelry, which included luxury watches, rings, necklaces and bracelets. His jewelry was made from a diverse range of colored gemstones, such as rubellite, tiger's eye, turquoise, opal, black star sapphire and citrine. The jewels owned by the King of Rock & Roll were a veritable gem lover's paradise.

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The stone you gave me in this dream was not aquamarine. Blue opal is the closest approximation I can find...it didn't seem earthly. It seemed to have a soul, glowing from within.

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And yes, I can relate to the name description more or less. It's suspiciously Capricornian.

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Honestly!

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I too think you should go for Wilhelma.

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