posted April 07, 2016 05:26 PM            

"Wow, Mar, that draco composite you posted:

Is this with the Aquarius? It just figures!"

I really have no clue!! Yes, with the known "one and only" Aqua lol (I am hopeless I know ). Did you see something specific? (there aren't so many differences between draco and compo regarding the 7th house stellium, except that it gets bigger lol - Sun and mercury move in the 7th, of course the signs and some aspects change, but I don't really know what you are talking about lol)

"Yes, my draconic Venus is square my tropical sun. So maybe that "activates" it?"
Yes, Ceri says there has to be a tropical connection somehow...but I was still wondering in case there is something there!

"I meant, take the relationship time (Davison) and make a composite with the current time...no draco involved.

In other words, make an EVC with the Davison."

Oh, that's a nice idea! never tried that! Thanks! I'll take a look and tell you if there is something there in my case!

"I just wanted to know why I'm thinking of that guy today. There's also a much more straightforward possibility that our composite moon (definitely in Aries) is conjunct my Jupiter, dr Venus, tr sun & moon.

*brain switches on* That's probably it."
LOL, seems you figured it out anyway!

"Or a non-astrological possibility, that I just haven't gotten enough therapy yet. LOL"
Hahaahahahahahahah, this is hilarious!

posted April 07, 2016 05:35 PM            

I forgot what your composite looked like, and forgot that draco composites just shift the regular composite into other signs...for some reason I was "thinking" the draco composite would be structured differently. (Not really thinking at all.)

I've been checking draco transits now and then for a while. I just like draco so much.

Tr draco sun on my IC, my draco Mars, his draco Jupiter....tr draco sun is hitting a lot of my stuff today!!

AND

Tr draco Mars 16 Gemini
My Mars 16 Gemini

posted April 07, 2016 05:43 PM            

I'll wait for 5 minutes now in order to post lol.

"I forgot what your composite looked like, and forgot that draco composites just shift the regular composite into other signs...for some reason I was "thinking" the draco composite would be structured differently. (Not really thinking at all.)"

No, in fact there are some changes! The basic structure with Mars, Vertex, Jupiter, Saturn on the Dsc remains the same, Venus and Chiron still in the 2nd, but Sun and Merc. move from the 1st house to the 7th probably because in the tropical compo they are squaring the NN (I just saw that btw lol)
Additionally, I just saw that I have unaspected uranus in the tropical and draco of course. Wonder what that means, if anything!

Thanks for the clarification with the draco transits, they seem significant, I'll give them a try!

"AND

Tr draco Mars 16 Gemini
My Mars 16 Gemini

posted April 07, 2016 05:52 PM            

Wrong thread but I just did this for the first time: Made a composite between the Davison Time and myself. The sun in this chart is at 18 Pisces, exactly conjunct my natal moon. But that could be off a little since I don't know his birth time (and mine isn't official either).

But the composite between Davison and him has the sun at 20 Cancer...conjunct the moon...exactly sextile Jupiter.

I guess that's mathematical, but our suns are trine by only 4-5 degrees in plain old tropical.

posted April 07, 2016 06:02 PM            

Oh, I really wonder why you would say that, since you already know how much I like you (understatement lol), but it will get embarrasing, so...anyway, you re welcome!

"a composite between the Davison Time and myself."
This is the marks chart if I remember well?
If so, this is impressive! And ok about tobs, but is the change of the Sun slight anyway? Or I am forgetting something?

"I guess that's mathematical"
Perhaps it is, although it's been a while since I tried them and I should definitely give them a second chance! The first time was when I had just began learning astrology! So...no clue to answer that to you right now..:/

"Water under the bridge but the story and its charts still fascinate me."

The placements you mentioned seem pretty important to me, btw! It's an explanation after all!

posted April 07, 2016 06:09 PM            

YES

God bless your memory.

You mentioned this:

"I personally found that I resonate really A LOT with my draco to tropical aspects just today, after Ceri's example! This gets really really impressing!!!"

I don't know which example you mean. Well you two are getting really into it, and I can't follow, because I don't have enough accurate birth times, and I don't have any sincere desire to track anything for my own personal interest. (No crushes, in other words. )

As for draco-to-tropical, I haven't really tracked the significance. Do you find that the conjunctions between the two (your natal and draco) tend to show up as hot spots in synastry?

It hasn't really worked for me that way...

Except I have double sextiles as I showed you before, I think:

Tr Jupiter 16 Aries
Dr Venus 16 Aries
Tr Mars 16 Gemini
Dr Mercury 15 Gemini

posted April 07, 2016 06:21 PM            

God bless your memory."

Haha, thanks! I have read somewhere that this is mercury in cancer, but I don;t know if its a textbook interpretation lol!

"I don't know which example you mean."
Ceri made a comparison earlier from her tropical to her draco natal. And she commented on the squares specifically. This gave me the idea to look for my own too and see what happens.
For example I found that I have a tropical to draco Neptune sq. Venus, which actually explains a lot, that aren't explained from my tropical alone, imo.

"As for draco-to-tropical, I haven't really tracked the significance. Do you find that the conjunctions between the two (your natal and draco) tend to show up as hot spots in synastry?"
I haven't looked about how they affect the synastry yet. It's only now with this thread that I even started to understand dracos basically, so I have still a lot to learn! But maybe you are onto something and I'll look about that, too!

"Then my husband's nodal axis is 15 Taurus-Scorpio forming a yod with all that. "
This is just amazing!

posted April 08, 2016 08:20 AM            

"For example I found that I have a tropical to draco Neptune sq. Venus, which actually explains a lot, that aren't explained from my tropical alone, imo."

Ohhhhh

I've always been thinking it has to be a conjunction, to anchor dracos to natal. Not sure how I ever came to believe that. Laziness perhaps.

You don't seem Venus square Neptune to me. You seem very realistic. But I guess you are romantic? Because you're here, thinking of someone.

Also, back to my study from yesterday:

We only have two conjunctions (or clusters) in the draco synastry:

#1)
6 Pisces, my dr IC
6 Pisces, his dr Pluto***
7 Cap, his dr Saturn
7 Taurus, his dr Neptune
8 Pisces, his dr Mars
9 Pisces, his dr Venus

Grounded by:
My tropical Venus 6 Sag
His tropical moon probably around 6 Taurus, conjunct his dr Neptune

#2)
26 Libra, his dr Jupiter
26 Libra, my dr Mars
26 Libra, my rectified tropical IC
23 Aries, my tropical Chiron

Conclusion:
This didn't work out.

Interestingly Ceri's best friend and her husband are born within two days of myself and this guy. But their draco synastry is stronger: it includes his tropical moon in Aquarius conjunct her draco sun. And they're happily married.

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posted April 08, 2016 11:02 AM            

5 Aries, transiting tropical Saturn
5 Aries, transiting draconic Mars
5 Aries, our draconic-composite sun.

Transiting draco Uranus 7 Leo, on my tropical ASC, and our tropical-composite Saturn.

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Also, has anyone tried doing draco sun-sun synastry comparisons using The Secret Language of Birthdays?
www.thesecretlanguageofbirthdays.com

My draco sun 25 Taurus
Husband's draco sun 22 Sag (exactly conjunct my sidereal sun, btw...and conjunct my 23 Sag Vertex.)

Not quoting the reading because it speaks negatively of my husband's draco sun and Ceri's sun at the same time.

My ex's draco sun 15 Aqua. Synastry reading with my dr sun:

"Boundaries between love and friendship are often blurred here, allowing movement from one state to the other. This process may in fact be a way of handling uncomfortable situations and feelings when they arise, rather than confronting such disturbances head-on and trying to solve the problem."

SO TRUE!!!

Marriage recommended for this one:

"Marriages show the partnership in a different light. These spouses are more concerned with with activities, albeit pleasurable ones, that challenge them mentally and physically. Designing a beautiful and functional home, making money, raising children, engaging in competitive sports or bettering their own personal best are all stimulating aspects in this area. As depth of commitment grows, the two may also be able to indulge in psychological exploration and spiritual growth."

Yeah I thought it would go like that.

My sun/moon MP @ 17 Aqua conjunct his draco sun, about 2 degrees (no birth time for him.)

posted April 08, 2016 11:26 AM            

Tr. Pluto on the dr. IC? Lol, I have the reverse in my synastry with him, his dr. Pluto on my tr. IC
I am a little scared to be honest

Maybe the fact that the draconic isn't so strong is the reason why this didn't work out. Thats what I struggle to understand here, if dracos are in fact our "answer" to whether a couple fits well together in the long-run, so let's say growth-wise (?)
My draco synastry with my ex of 7 years isn't strong at all either, imo. So...?

"*** Interestingly we stopped talking when the sun was transiting @ 4 Pisces, and it was a full moon that day. Transiting draco sun @ 4 Virgo (conjunct tropical, transiting moon). That is just so weird. "
Yes, this is!!! Have you seen the transits of the tropical nodes for these days? I have read Todd somewhere saying that they might result in break-ups, too.

"Transiting draco Uranus 7 Leo, on my tropical ASC, and our tropical-composite Saturn."
So there are some other things here, too...

"Also, has anyone tried doing draco sun-sun synastry comparisons using The Secret Language of Birthdays?"
...This gets really weird..

posted April 08, 2016 12:15 PM            

"Tr. Pluto on the dr. IC? Lol, I have the reverse in my synastry with him, his dr. Pluto on my tr. IC"

^ Dr Pluto on dr IC in my case.

That's big what you have, I think...well yesterday I was trying not to get annoyed with my husband about something but as time went on, I got more annoyed (while trying to remain just compassionate and understanding.) By the time he walked in the door, I didn't even know what my reaction would be, but let's just say, annoyance won. I did a chart for that moment (I don't always draw up charts, just sometimes, when something impulsive happens.) The chart has Pluto on the IC. On my sun.

It gave me a taste of that Pluto-IC energy I guess?

I wonder if you got together long-term with Mr Aqua, you would have a pretty intense home life.

"Yes, this is!!! Have you seen the transits of the tropical nodes for these days? I have read Todd somewhere saying that they might result in break-ups, too."

Transiting tropical NN 28 Virgo

Not sure what that means except the Virgo-Libra Cusp tends to be perfectionistic and I think we all (the planet, collectively) may have suffered from too-high standards at that time.

Also...in the (drumroll)
progressed draconic composite

(if we can use such a thing!)

posted April 08, 2016 12:24 PM            

"I wonder if you got together long-term with Mr Aqua, you would have a pretty intense home life."
Yes I think so, too! But I don't know if intense would be good or bad, lol. With Pluto it can be good, but it can be really bad...hmmm

posted April 08, 2016 12:45 PM            

Btw, for the tr. NN, did this aspect something in your composite?

posted April 08, 2016 12:45 PM            

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posted April 08, 2016 12:47 PM            

I gotta take a break for lunch.

posted April 08, 2016 12:49 PM            

Of course, as I said, take your time please!!1 There is no rush! Tomorrow, next week, whenever you have time and you're in the mood!!! I don't want you to feel it like a burden!
I really appreciate that!!!

posted April 08, 2016 04:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:
Anything else you dislike?

It's all so very interesting.

Why not just take over Ceri's thread and fill it with every single thing you dislike about astrology?

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posted April 08, 2016 04:20 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
does trine from draco to natal, draco-draco counts at all?

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posted April 09, 2016 04:35 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Hmmm, not so sure...
You'd better try with conjunctions, oppositions, squares just to be sure!

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Thanks Mar,

posted April 09, 2016 07:34 AM            

Anyway Faith,

the Marks chart would be making a

DAVISON between the DAVISON and your own chart? Did you mean that?

or did you mean a

COMPOSITE between the Davison and your own chart?

At first i wasn`t sure about the idea, though someone else made such a chart for me many years ago and it was very fitting.

However after second thought, I realized it is not that arbitrary after all!

The Davison - after all - represent a specific moment in time, a day, an event (though the event is said to contain informations about the relationship), and we know that the composites of certain days/eventcharts with our natal work superbly.

So basically what we do is making an EVC just with the Davison-date.

I`d say why not?

So my Davison-EVC

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his Davison - EVC

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Interestingly the EVC ASC is conjunct each other`s natal Moon (and his Sun in the case of my EVC)