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Ceridwen
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posted April 09, 2016 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you see, is what you get. The tropical synastry being very close to identical to the deeper layer.

But of course the overlays between Draco and tropical will play a major role in this.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alegna:
what if two people have tightly conjunct north nodes in natal synastry? If this makes their draco synastry connections identical to the natal, with just the signs changing, what would that say about the nature of the relationship/soul connection?

I don't know but my NN is loosely conjunct my husband's (less than 5° though) and we've been married over 17 years.

We have a few more synastry conjunctions:
My ASC conjunct his sun, exact
My Pluto conjunct his moon, 6°
My Venus conjunct his Saturn, 1°

The moon-Pluto conjunction gets tighter by about 5 degrees in draco, so it becomes the tightest conjunction we've got in draco synastry, while the Venus-Saturn separates by about 5 degrees.

I do feel like we are a moon-Pluto couple.

ETA: That draco moon-Pluto conjunction squares our tropical nodes.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am gone one day and lost.


Anyway Faith,

the Marks chart would be making a

DAVISON between the DAVISON and your own chart? Did you mean that?

or did you mean a

COMPOSITE between the Davison and your own chart?


At first i wasn`t sure about the idea, though someone else made such a chart for me many years ago and it was very fitting.

However after second thought, I realized it is not that arbitrary after all!

The Davison - after all - represent a specific moment in time, a day, an event (though the event is said to contain informations about the relationship), and we know that the composites of certain days/eventcharts with our natal work superbly.

So basically what we do is making an EVC just with the Davison-date.

I`d say why not?


So my Davison-EVC

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his Davison - EVC

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Interestingly the EVC ASC is conjunct each other`s natal Moon (and his Sun in the case of my EVC)


Ahh, and I see your Mercury conjunct his Venus in Pisces.

Your moon conjunct his Chiron in Taurus, 3.10° orb.

Your Leo Saturn conjunct his Cancer Jupiter.

Your Pluto-Eros conjunct his moon.

Hmmm...

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posted April 09, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

Also, has anyone tried doing draco sun-sun synastry comparisons using The Secret Language of Birthdays?
www.thesecretlanguageofbirthdays.com


Repeating myself

Hoping others try this!

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posted April 09, 2016 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Haha, maybe my other post disappeared before you saw it then!

Of course, as I said, take your time please!!1 There is no rush! Tomorrow, next week, whenever you have time and you're in the mood!!! I don't want you to feel it like a burden!
I really appreciate that!!!

Btw, I am gonna remember what I wanted to say and post it later lol!


K

Just the fact that it works out like that is the biggest news of all. The "coincidence" is the most amazing part, but I will look again soon.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

ETA: That draco moon-Pluto conjunction squares our tropical nodes.

That is definitely a very MAJOR factor (Moon-Pluto on its own would have been, but squaring the tropical nodal axis in a NODAL chart. Kinda evokes the impression of: "Look here! THAT`s what it`s all about, (Alfie )" (Sorry couldn`t resist it, but you maybe know that the last line of the film is: "What`s it all about? You know what I mean?" )

But yes, in a nodal chart, something in the Draco configured so much with the nodal axis itself (and by extension to Moon) seems to scream that that is what it`s about, the gist of it.


And the square here, some would say it represents a skipped step, but no matter how we call it, it`s something that will figure STRONGLY in your relationship, maybe even take it over at times, becoming the dominating factor (like something from underneath bumping against your soft underbellies constantly, sometimes louder, sometimes more quietly) and the square is the point at the greatest tension, but also a point of awareness, you might get blindsided by it, it hits you sideways, but once the hit happened, it cannot be "un-seen or un-felt". You HAVE to address it, deal with it in some way, and to ensure this it will make itself felt providing the emotional experiences we associate with moon-pluto.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Ahh, and I see your Mercury conjunct his Venus in Pisces.

Your moon conjunct his Chiron in Taurus, 3.10° orb.

Your Leo Saturn conjunct his Cancer Jupiter.

Your Pluto-Eros conjunct his moon.

Hmmm...


Yes, but not really sure how that would be practically applicable, a comparision between two EVC`s, though it might be important in terms of transits hitting the points, which I guess Tr Chiron-SN just did. In terms of my EVC Mercury and his EVC Venus at least.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Repeating myself

Hoping others try this!


No real clue when my Draconic birthday is. lol

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posted April 09, 2016 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahem. Any thoughts on this synastry? I'm particularly curious about the conjunctions to angles and unaspected Moon.

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posted April 09, 2016 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well okay I guess, since we substract the nodal position from the tropical Sun, the draconic birthday would be prior to our birth (but the same or previous year).

So for me I come up with 5th april 1974 at 11:54 p.m. (and btw this gives an interesting chart! With Moon-Pluto-conjunction in Libra on MC, a repetition of my natal angles, putting ASC exact between Mars and my birth ASC, and an exact trine between Venus and Saturn on the last degree of Aquarius and Gemini, plus both trine Uranus on 26 Libra and so on. the NN of this chart being exact on my prenatal solar ecclipse. opposite Mars. and oh shocking! my Lilith exact on HIS birth-Venus.lol)

For him this brings us back to this date:

18th july 1979 at 9:41 p.m.

(with the Sun-DESC on his birth Juno and opposing his birth Venus; with SN being near his prenatal lunar ecclipse, with Lilith exact on his birth NN; an exact Mercury-Jupiter-conjunction in leo and all those planets on about 15-18 degrees that I was missing from his natal!!!!

Remember, Faith, we talked about it, I mentioned that it was just strange that while I was so heavily configured with vulnerable planets at about mid degrees of certain signs, but he was missing them totally, it did not make sense.

But here in the natal chart that correlates with his Draco Sun-placement, we find

Ceres 17 Aries (near his son`s IC-Uranus)
Mars 15° Geminie (4 minutes off my Karma)
Venus 15 Cancer (on his sonīs Venus exact and on my own Saturn)
Mercury 14 Leo
Jupiter 14 leo (on his son`s Vertex-Lilith)
Pluto 16 Libra
Neptune 18 Sag (near his son`s ASC)

3 personal planets suddenly ending up on the middegrees and in fact in subsequent signs, putting Venus on the Mercury/Mars and Mars/Jupiter-mp, I feel that describes him so well, it`s amazing, the energy and way to communicate as well as the peformer in him (Mercury-Jupiter in Leo in his 7th house btw, and yes it was opposing his ex girlfriends Sun-Moon. lol)

I just wanted to check what the birthday of our Draco Suns was, instead I found a whole new pre-birth-chart, correlating with the Draco-birthday. I wonder if that might be valid to interprete, too.


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posted April 09, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is in the inner circle, Auntie?

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posted April 09, 2016 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me?

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posted April 09, 2016 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s interesting. There is definitely a strong spiritual vibe here, maybe even relating to creativity (your Sun-Neptune opposite his Moon), and the Sun-Moon-opposition on its own very attractive on a soul level. But with your Moon-Ceres unaspected I am not sure it would touch you on an emotional level (the everyday emotional level, the caring and nurturing vibe might be missing).


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posted April 09, 2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. But is draco about everyday life? In our tropical synastry my Moon is doing quite well. We have a cool reversal, meaning: my Moon is opposite his Sun there

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posted April 09, 2016 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draco is operating everyday, though it is not about the mundane things. if the tropical Moon is good, then there might be a good emotional reception, but without Draco Moon involved, a deeper dimension will be missing.

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posted April 09, 2016 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, my Moon is sesquisquare his Sun (1.34), quincunx Saturn (2.46), trine Vesta-h21 (0.17-11). Also exactly trine his Vertex but that's what he'd feel.

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posted April 09, 2016 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceri, I missed you yesterday lol!
Hi Aunt!
One question please, speaking of draco Moons, what if the draco Moon is "officially" unaspected, but is conjunct draco IC exact and secondly draco Chiron (~4d)? (there is a quincunx from Neptune, too, but..?)
Thank you!!!

@Faith, yeah, no problem, I'll wait!
As for the draco birthday, I have no clue for mine either, although yesterday I gave that site a try, but then I realised I can't really use it without my bday! Maybe I'll try what Ceri proposed.

ETA : @Aunt, Eros-IC, Sun-Dsc and Ceres-Chiron-Dsc on Vertex? This is a really intense draco synastry at a first glance at least! Does it feel that way, too? (I am joking, I know you won't tell me, hahahaha)

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posted April 09, 2016 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Aunt!
One question please, speaking of draco Moons, what if the draco Moon is "officially" unaspected, but is conjunct draco IC exact and secondly draco Chiron (~4d)? (there is a quincunx from Neptune, too, but..?)


Hey. Thanks for having faith in my opinion but I'm not the expert here. It's hard for me to even theorize cause I've never met the guy (he's a singer). Anyway, with that IC conjunction I wouldn't consider the mentioned Moon unaspected. Speaking of Chiron, my Moon is touched by it in my draco synastry with an actor I used to obsess over. Other than that there would be only a square to his Sun if we count it despite an 8 deg orb. Edit: wait, there's also a widish square to his Venus. And some minor stuff. Gotta double check with the table.

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posted April 09, 2016 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aunt, you're welcome!!! You are so humble, what can I say..
Thanks for the feedback for your chiron-moon connection! And your opinion about moon-IC! I don't consider it myself unaspected, but I thought I should better check with others' opinion here!

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posted April 09, 2016 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's one of the best conjunctions you could get when it comes to the Moon. In case it wasn't clear, my Moon-Chiron aspect is a conjunction. It's under 1 degree. Hm, I also have this conjunction with my semi-long term online friend, my Moon.

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posted April 09, 2016 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri What's with these angular Chirons?

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posted April 09, 2016 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking...could an unaspected Moon manifest itself through not wanting to acknowledge the connection/surrender to it? Cap Moon squared by Saturn would be particularly prone to it.

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posted April 09, 2016 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
I'm thinking...could an unaspected Moon manifest itself through not wanting to acknowledge the connection/surrender to it?



Haha, from my experience with this (at least sort of) unaspected Moon, yeah, it could, lol!

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posted April 09, 2016 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's your IC so you're the stimulated one here. But this angle and Moon have an affinity so he's likely to feel something too in terms of this aspect.

Btw, does the guy have any good reason to avoid pairing up with you?

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posted April 09, 2016 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW that is ours


Talking about Moon-Pluto and Pluto-IC and such. lol

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