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TINK
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posted March 20, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Astrology isn't the "simplest terms" for me, HSC. I appreciate that you're well-versed in the art. I'm not. That doesn't mean I'm thick. It just means I don't speak that language.

You don't need to prove your emotional needs by laying down that astro resume. Just saying "I really need intimacy" will suffice. If you were speaking to someone who was astrologically fluent, sharing astrological data would surely help to further explain your persona, but, as you know, I'm not. So, as much as I'd like to better understand where and what Chiron is doing doesn't help me.

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MysticMelody
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posted March 20, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I've been thinking about killing myself.
for a few days
i didn't think i would ever feel that way again
i keep telling myself it is pluto or venus retro but it doesn't stop...
i feel like giving up
i am dropping my classes
might drop out of school with no way to pay back my loans
i won't kill myself because it would hurt me more to leave my daughter alone in this world than it will hurt me to be a bag lady with her by my side, but then, that isn't allowed so they will take her from me if i become a bag lady and i can always kill myself then i guess. when all hope is gone.

i just know i can't do these classes. classes i was so excited about and that are so interesting to me.
for some reason, for the last few weeks i can do nothing.
i barely shower.

i got on depression meds after christmas and they helped for a while or something helped for a while.
but i'm back to no motivation.
and i am losing hope.
or have lost hope.
so maybe the thread is for me.
i have been searching here for days
trying to find something
anything
guidance
light
a sign
help

shrug and sigh
everything sucks
and i give up
and if i give up ...
well
i don't h ave to think of that right now
i guess
and i'm sick

and things that used to make me happy don't
anymore

i thought about making a thread
but i didn't think anyone would care
or they would try to care when they had troubles of their own and i would just be drawing energy like a vampire
i feel like a vampire

i am to the point where i have thought that i should just find a guy who likes me and marry him so he will take care of me and my daughter so i can rest
even if i don't have any connection to him

at least i would have security for my daughter and i could rest for a while.

i hate myself for even thinking those things
i tell myself what a piece of crap i am for not being able to do what i need to do or be "normal"
today i have been beating myself up for making some sort of mistake somewhere in my youth that led me away from a path so many others have taken that seems to be at least slightly working for them...
but that is not the way i usually feel
or what i usually think
so i have been questioning my sanity and how much i could have possibly deluded myself

i might have started convincing myself i was totally crazy had i not started watching a show called "The Doctors" that featured plastic surgery and people getting fat suctioned out of their body.
then i remembered that the path many people are on in this physical existence is still not the path i want, even if it means enough money for a nice house and nice car and nice surgery to perfect my body.

i guess i'd rather perfect my soul
and i guess that is probably what i am doing
even if i can't see it right now

and reading this thread makes me see how useless the thoughts of suicide are since i can't anyway
which is sad
because staying hurts so bad
and i am so alone
or so lonely
or both

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 20, 2009 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I'm starting to wonder about those pysch evaluations.

It must be all the weeeeeed they're smokin'.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 20, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
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Astrology isn't the "simplest terms" for me, HSC. I appreciate that you're well-versed in the art. I'm not. That doesn't mean I'm thick. It just means I don't speak that language.

I know. The simplest terms were, "I am terminally love-sick,"

You wanted more. I gave you a language of hidden things.

You want to know secrets, go read the interpretations of these things.

But if you dont understand me when I tell you, how will you read it in the chart?

quote:

You don't need to prove your emotional needs by laying down that astro resume. Just saying "I really need intimacy" will suffice.

My apologies.
I thought you were caught up.


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If you were speaking to someone who was astrologically fluent, sharing astrological data would surely help to further explain your persona, but, as you know, I don't. So, as much as I'd like to better understand where and what Chiron is doing doesn't help me.

I feel for you.
There are interpretations all over the web,
if it bothers you enough to Google.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 20, 2009 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
The choice to be happy is yours, Melody.

You know that, so stop lying to yourself.

Stop looking for attention and do something.

JUST KIDDING.

I hear you.

I feel you.

I wish there was something I could do.

All I can do is tell you that you are a very special person,
and it hurts me to see you unhappy in this world.

I know what that sadness and loneliness feels like.

And nothing I say is guaranteed to hold a key for you.

But I want you to know that I do care. And I always think of you.

You are a good person and a smart and loving person. You are special in so many ways.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 20, 2009 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Can everybody see how it is done, now??

Melody is so brave for sharing her pain with us like this.

I'm glad she felt comfortable enough to do that.

If I had any part in making that possible, I am very grateful.

I hope you will all respect her, and not swamp her with a bunch of bull.


love
HSC

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TINK
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posted March 20, 2009 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe I am thick because I've tried and I have no aptitude for astrology.

No, I'm not caught up. I don't visit LL all that often, so I don't know the details of your current situation. I was surprised that you felt so distressed by the lack of a girlfriend. I'm sorry for being intrusive and asking.

You know, on second thought maybe I'll keep that birth info to myself. You're pretty good at tearing me apart without it. Why give you more ammo?

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posted March 20, 2009 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
TINK,

Look, didnt you say something about giving me a break right now?

Yes, I am this distraught over a lack of a girlfriend.

I am not the only person who need insulin... oops, i mean, intimacy.

I'm sorry if I made you feel dumb. I feel defensive as hell right now.

You are right, I should not expect you to keep track of my recent blatherings.

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TINK
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posted March 20, 2009 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Mystic Melody ~ we don't speak here, so maybe I'm out of the loop again, but I didn't know you struggled with this.

I'm so sorry and I know the added difficulties these feelings bring when you have a child. Being unable to function is bad enough. Feeling unable to function when you have small children to take care of can be a real vicious circle of guilt and sadness.

I know you've been a true comfort to many posters here. I trust that comfort will find its way back to you.

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TINK
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posted March 20, 2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
no problem, HSC.

Feeling defensive right now is totally understandable. I'll leave you to fight it out with the unsympathetic, non-water signs.

goodnight

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posted March 20, 2009 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
At least Melody has plenty of Virgoan skills of self-maintenance.

Can you imagine if she had an inner child to care for, in addition to the outer?

Even one child, inner or outer, is enough, but at least an outer child can give you a moment's rest.

And, God bless her, she has that lovely Libran tint to her glasses.

She is always trying to make me see the world in more idealistic ways.

Sometimes I wish I had that kind of faith and attraction to the brighter side.

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I know you've been a true comfort to many posters here. I trust that comfort will find its way back to you.

It hasnt found its way back to her so far, has it, TINK. lol

But I'm sure it will now. Everyone will rush to comfort her, just to snub me, lol.

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snohawk1
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posted March 20, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snohawk1     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't read all of this, but don't disregard all optimism as blind. Is there any reason why you shouldn't be getting a mate? if there isn't, don't be depressed OR optimistic, be indifferent. If there is, work on improving whatever habits; or whatever it is, which are indeed restricting this. Don't grovel.

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posted March 20, 2009 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
lol "dont grovel"

i do what i can.

nice conversing with you.

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MysticMelody
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posted March 20, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
yes, just saying it helped me cry which is probably what i need most. i had planned to watch a sad movie when she went to sleep so i could cry but maybe this is better, i don't know.
what you said, tink, means a lot because i feel like you understand. it really is a horrible cycle. and obviously the pills aren't helping any depression but they seem to cut my stress so i don't snap at her so i'm not ready to stop them yet. this depression just started before christmas. i know why, but i don't want to type and think of it now. mostly it is that i just finally cracked under the pressure. i can't do this alone anymore. it's like something in me just keeps resisting it no matter what my rational mind tells me to do. i feel paralyzed. but thank you for saying something.
and i'm glad for the thread i guess. though i think i would be grateful just that people bothered to reach out to me because i don't get it very much. but then, people who do reach out to me aren't always sincere and i fall for it so it might be better if i was more discriminating.

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posted March 20, 2009 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snohawk1     Edit/Delete Message
Well.. in all frankness, yes.

Ok, apparently I can't post a strait vertical line, for some reason, so just imagine there's a frank face to the right of the upper text.

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posted March 20, 2009 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure we could all be more or less discriminating.

I hope you feel better soon, Melody.

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posted March 20, 2009 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
snohawk,

i am well aware that i am humbling myself to show my flaws to you.

do you think that restating them (stating the obvious),
in the most unflattering terms, is necessary?

do you imagine that you are speaking the truth?
you are saying what every other coldblooded person says.

other people have said other things. other people have called it strength.

is nothing important enough to you to rant about it, the way i rant about love?

Isnt it unfortuneate that people are so heartless,
one really has to grovel, in order to get an ounce of understanding?

Someday it wont be like this.

Someday the heartless will be the minority.

Someday the heartless will be stigmatized.

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posted March 20, 2009 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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It makes sense that he was an air sign,
since they can have trouble identifying and expressing their emotions.
(**sigh**)
I hope you find the path that will take you to what you seek, Stephen.....

Mel

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posted March 20, 2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I'm sorry, 'Zala.

Was it rude of me to say what every astrology book known to man has said about air signs?

You did note the word "can", didnt you?

I dont understand your point.

But, thank you.

I hope I find her, too.

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posted March 20, 2009 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
thank you
you too
i don't know what to say

thank you zala

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posted March 20, 2009 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
i thought she meant that *sigh* she had the same trouble

i can identify with that

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posted March 20, 2009 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
i dont think she did.

but there's that Libran tint i spoke of.

then again.. maybe you are right.

if so, my (sincere) apologies to 'Zala.

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posted March 20, 2009 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
you pick fights when you are upset
do you know that consciously?
i know that about you.

i am a wild steve whisperer

when i am strong

but i do care about you too.
you are strong
emotionally strong

you can be the man you want to be
in that realm
when i get emotional is when i am in danger of falling.
you are at home
a water creature

you are seeing things darkly
so am i, but that was how i took it without thought and you are more suspicious than i am

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posted March 20, 2009 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
i dont pick fights.

i just dont let things go as much.

And I'll stand up for a cause I know is unpopular,
and likely to get me into fights.

And I won't back down.

No matter how unpopular and revolutionary my idea is.

I just challenge people to expand their understanding.

People hate it when you do that.


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posted March 20, 2009 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Melody....I had no idea you were going through this pain....
You are being far too hard on yourself...try to be gentle with yourself.

I understand far too well what you are going through and that hurts....If you need somewhere to vent you are welcome to vent with me...I won't try and give any advice...I can just listen...never mind if we haven't always got along...it's trivial now.

Things will get better.

<3

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