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Topic: LETS ALL KILL OURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1265 From: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 20, 2009 11:12 PM
Omigosh, in the time it took me to type a response here, there have been 20 new ones!! I'm glad you're all feeling a bit better. I'd like to offer up my email address if any of you - Mel, Steve, or anyone else - would like to write to me, to talk about what you're going through. I'd be glad to lend a sympathetic ear (or eye, as the case may be).. My email addy is sunshine9@unc.edu  Sunshine IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 10819 From: Registered: May 2008
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posted March 20, 2009 11:13 PM
I can't help thinking of the irony that the Natasha Richardson thread is second to this one right now and there are people here talking about suicide when I'm sure that her loved ones who have lost her so unexpectedly and suddenly would absolutely cherish more time with her.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:15 PM
It was you, LEXX. Phospherous, right? I wrote something more personal than any of this. I'm pretty sure it went through. But, whatever.I dont know what to tell you. I am obsessed with finding a partner. At different times, I have been tentatively diagnosed with a variety of disorders, including ADD, Asperger's, Major Depression, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety, and several personality disorders with names I'd rather not mention. I have gone over this stuff. I see a therapist once a week, and have been in therapy approx. once a week for the past fifteen years. I have tried a dozen different psyche-meds, with disheartening results every time. I have tried a number of alternative medicines and therapies. I cannot afford the things that have seemed to work for me.
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 5175 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 20, 2009 11:17 PM
Sunshine I would love a kick start on the LOA thinking. I'm not going to commit suicide and that is what is so depressing. I'm going to have to live with this horrible mess I am making or can't help making or want to stop making but feel powerless to stop making or whatever it is that I can't see right now... but HOPE (sunshine ) to soon....
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:17 PM
Peace Angel,Good point.  Both threads remind us to cherish our loved ones and support them while we still can. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 8248 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:17 PM
What *were* the things that seemed to work for you, Stephen??IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:17 PM
Thank you, Sunshine.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 10819 From: Registered: May 2008
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posted March 20, 2009 11:18 PM
HSCThanks sweetheart. Every moment is precious.  IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1265 From: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 20, 2009 11:19 PM
LOL, 'zala.. I wanted to inject big old rays of sunshine into the thread, but I just didn't think they'd end up being THAT big! I do need help resizing, please! *bats lashes*  Sunshine IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:23 PM
Acupuncture, Reiki, and Shamanic Soul-Retrieval, 'Zala.Psilocybin mushrooms have also been known to work wonders. I can feel calmer and more clear-headed for a week after taking mushrooms. But I dont have access to them most of the time. And when they are around, i'm usually broke.
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Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 8248 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:28 PM
Thanks for your reply, Stephen  Acupuncture was very helpful for me too, as well as Qigong -- but the price was a bit too steep..... If you are interested in doing Qigong for yourself, I have the seminar book and meditation music with the coach's directions uploaded..... It's Chun Yi Lin's Spring Forest Qigong, and I'm lucky enough to be about 30 miles from his main office.....Have you never gone shroomie-picking out in the fields??  sunshine, here's your pic 800x600: http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo335/Azalaksh/sunshine9s_sunshine.jpg I'll host it until you save it and edit your post  IP: Logged |
cheshirekat Knowflake Posts: 212 From: wonderland Registered: Jan 2009
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posted March 20, 2009 11:31 PM
Even though my heart is torn, worn, and broken, my soul a tattered messed and this small weak body of mine can do not do much less. I extend my arms to you my brother, my sister, my mother, my father, my love..I open my heart to you..no matter your status, your race, your upbringing and give you all that I am capable of. I feel your pain, your suffering, your sadness, your despair for I am human just as you and I feel, I bleed, I cry, I hunger, I want, I need. We all do but when is one of us going to give? I am here and I am ready to step out of my wants and needs to give to you.I never really shared this with anyone but I was never really suppose to be here. I was suppose to be planned abortion but my mother missed the date and after a certain amount of time, you become a being in this world. Is that not funny? I was nothing to my young 18 year old Pisces Mother and they say Pisceans are to be the most loving and universal..., I had no existance before she missed the date. When I was born a Virgo the opposite of a Pisces, she took care of me for awhile but I began to "burden" her and she gave me up on family and I was raised by my aunts and she was out living her life, her wants, her needs and I was left with an ever growing void. She eventaully began to have seizures and people told me she had been having them since my difficult birth, I blame myself for her suffering and I took care of her but she still managed to physically and emotionally abused me but I thought she did this out of love, she hurts me because she loves me so much and I deserve every ******* hit, every ******* "I hate you ugly piece of **** daughter, I wish I had aborted you.." and when I came out as a lesbian, she was disgusted with me... When I got older and moved in with my dad and sister, things did get better but I still felt unloved. I had to go to therapy and they called me the "love starved" child. I always felt unwanted, unaccepted and unloved, I was angry at everyone and even myself. I use to have the most horrible tempermental moods and I have done some horrible things. I feed of everyone and those who did not agree with my suffering could just go **** themselves "Look a-holes I am love starved child, you will never understand my pain, so **** off!" but deep down inside I was screaming "Love me, Accept Me, Want me.." because I never had that and when I did get it I abused and used it, I hurt lots of people in my early wake, especially my Cancer sister, she was secretly being physically abused by her boyfriend and all I ******* cared about was "Me, myself and I", if her boyfriend was beating the **** out of her then what could I do, I was helpless and stupid. Last year I broke down, I commited suicide my taking 3 bottles of outdated 500 mg lithium for my grandfather's bipolar disorder, which brings up the fact my grandfather lost his wife in a car accident after that he snapped and he bacame a cocaine addicts and he stole from his family, he went as far as to sell a necklace my best friend gave me for my 7th brithday. This man went without the love of his wife for years and it wasn't until last here, he said enough and now he is getting better. Anyways I commited suicide, I was rushed to the hospital because my sister found me. I was in a drug induced coma for three days and I was almost close to slipping because I was very weak to begin with at 108 pounds and 5'3 and lack of sleep, from sever depression and self hatred. I was so ******* happy to be existing this ****** up world, I was so ******* happy..but the universe ****** me over and I began to get out of my coma. I didn't want to see my family and friends becase I push everyone away. I only asked for my sketch book and to be left alone. As I opened my sketch book, I saw page of lil stick people and scribbles and strange texts of kidengarten "I love you Auntie", they were from my two nieces and my nephew. I cried, at 16..a ghetto black teen girl who suppose to have this tough ass street exterior cried like a little ol baby. my whole face was drenched in tears. I had realised, I was selfish **** to think my pain was greater then anyone elses, to think my suffering was above anyone elses. I was wrong, dead..dead wrong..I gathered myself up and told myself that I don't need love, I don't need acceptance, I sure in the hell don't need to be wanted by anyone. I've got enough love in this heart of mine for myself and others, sure it's not strong and perfect but I am human and I am capable, I went through all this ******** and bliding arrogance, to see this. Thats why I know you can one day to. If your love doesn't come tomorrow or the next ten years who gives a **** , My mom will probably never love me or accept for who I am but I really don't give a **** . I am here, I am alive, and I am going to give it my all. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:33 PM
i dont know about computers, zalacan you send it to me? IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 5175 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 20, 2009 11:40 PM
cheshirekat, my first feelings on seeing your long post were resistant to reading it but i'm really glad that i did. thank you very much for sharing.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:43 PM
I'm sorry you had to go through that, cheshirekat.You're probably a very strong person, to have made it back all by yourself. I dont think it was selfish to think you were more unhappy than other people. It sounds to me like you were more unhappy than many people ever are. Maybe it was a short transit for you that passed and left you stronger. I think what I am dealing with is different. I'm sorry if you think that makes me arrogant. But we are different. Your experience says nothing about me. God bless IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 8248 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 20, 2009 11:53 PM
Yes I can send them to you, Stephen. They're large files -- the two meditation music tracks are around 20mb each. The seminar booklet is in pdf with pictures so you can follow along.Qigong is very much like reiki, except that you are your OWN reiki master.....  More here, while I'm searching for those files..... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/008350.html IP: Logged |
cheshirekat Knowflake Posts: 212 From: wonderland Registered: Jan 2009
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posted March 21, 2009 12:05 AM
MysticMelody-I am still here, still alive and kicking X3, though Im crying, I tapped a little to deep in myself but I felt I needed to share what I've experience, so if someone comes across this thread they too will see that no matter what the universe bestows upon you, you are capable.HSC- No you don't have to apologise, it's understandable we all go through different kinds pain but it's that "pain" that makes people similair, even though we all very unique and special in our own ways and my pain is no greater or lesser then yours and anyone's I come into contact with, in the past I would have thought so but now I see we all stuggle. I took from the universe because I felt it owed me one, I felt entitled to love, happiness, acceptance, and appreciation and in the end it hurt me up to my breaking point. I relied on my needs and wants to fuel me in this world and everyone around me had needs and wants but then when I let of go of "I want love" and "I need love" or "I will die if I am not loved", I changed it into, "I love myself", "I give you my love", "I deserve to be loved as I am..human and growing" "I am alive, when I give love instead of take". Most people think it is completely bonkers or I am smoking dope but the more I release these deep seated complexes the more I begin to feel for people, even my mother. We all want love and we all need love, but I still ask to this day who is going to be the one and brave understanding soul to open their arms and hearts and give love. IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1265 From: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 21, 2009 12:09 AM
Oh, Mel.. I understand.. It is harder to deal than to get a release from it all. You're a strong one though, remember.. You're my rock!! You've been through tough Plutonian transits, and made it through, and you will with this one too. (Gee, perhaps we should start a Pluto Support Group here? I will have that Pluto-Moon transit soon too, if I'm not already)You can write to me if you like; I want to be here for you. I just KNOW that things will get better - these seem to be crappy times for everyone - economy's bad, love lives are down. But, when things are rock bottom, there's no place to go but up!! Steve.. hang in there!  Sunshine IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 21, 2009 12:12 AM
We all do struggle, but it varies greatly, cheshirekat.We all struggle more at some times in our lives than others. And some of us struggle that much all life long. Not everything is as perfectly balanced as you seem to think. At least, that's not the way it looks to me. Have you ever seen what mental patients look like? I mean, after being treated with electro-shock therapy? What about the people in Africa we were talking about? You dont think they suffer more than the average person? Ever seen photos of holocaust victims? Looked in their eyes? What do you suppose a year in a Gulag Archipelago is like?
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 21, 2009 12:16 AM
And I feel all the things you spoke of.But the way I see it, your thinking changed because you were changing. I dont think those thoughts were the cause but the effect of your improvement. Those thoughts are natural to a person who is emerging from depression into wellness. I go through that several times a day, to tell you the truth. It's fascinating watching my thoughts change in front of me. Must be all that Aqua/Uranian objectivity I have in my chart. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 21, 2009 12:29 AM
Thank you, 'ZalaIP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 3605 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted March 21, 2009 12:36 AM
I won't get into my suicide attempts here. It is not pleasant to say the least. Waiting to die.HSC  quote: I was also born in the year and hour of the horse,
I am a horse year person too. Wood Horse. (BTW...Lotus was born in a Fire Horse year) What are you? Seriously, I do not remember getting such a letter from you. Sorry. I have had MySpace "eat" long letters I wrote, only to find out later it never actually reached who it was intended for. I understand meds and nasty side effects..(and too often fail to work) for both myself and my husband. And the costs for some are too much..like $27 a pill for depression.  cheshirekat {{{HUGS}}} Do very much can I relate to your words and ordeals. I am not going to go into my stuff here. I may put it on MySpace. It is good to let it out like you just did.
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 10215 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 21, 2009 12:41 AM
Year of the Earth Horse Hour of the Fire HorseMonth of the Water Dog Day of the Water Monkey IP: Logged |
cheshirekat Knowflake Posts: 212 From: wonderland Registered: Jan 2009
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posted March 21, 2009 12:45 AM
HSC- You are right sometime we do come up against great struggles in this life and yes there are people around the world starving, there is people who suffer terrible mental disorders or physical disabilities and going through war but the reason I say no one's suffering is greter then another is because when you believe suffering is greater, you tend to give up and you believe it is too great for you to handle but it's not, we can feed, love, listen, hold, heal and clothe everyone but we are afraid we can't handle it but we can handle it a little at a time because we are capable. We may not get it completely right or perfect but then perfectionisn is an illusion atleast to me.Right now I am capable of giving the clothes out of my suitcase to a child who doesn't have anything. I am capable of giving a hug to a person who felt broken. I am capable to sit for four hours straight and listen to a mentally ill person talk to me. We are all capable in our own ways, we can all do certain things and we can all put it for a better cause. If I was alone and a paralyzed person and all I could do was move my mouth, I would still have a purpose. I could write poetry by asking someone write down the words for me. I can see the sunset just outside the window, I would joke with the nurses and the doctors but I also need someone who doesn't believe my suffering is so great because if they thought that, I would be stuck, depressed, and paralyzed because they would be too afraid to engage with me,and pity me. I want people to see, feel, and open their hearts. I am tired of people shutting out those who need love the most and feel they are above the needy and the hurt or that their suffering is too great and out of reach for us to understand.
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sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1265 From: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 21, 2009 12:49 AM
'zala, all fixed!! ...healing light...  Sunshine IP: Logged | |