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Topic: Question for the 20-something ladies out there?
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Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 08:27 AM
  
^ Let's just put an end to this. It's only going to get nastier. It doesn't matter what either of you weighs. Sigh. When I brought up working out, I meant my words to be inspirational... because when a person is young, their body is very malleable and it's much easier to acquire healthy habits - eating habits, exercise routine etc.
I just wanted to say that if you want to look like the most physically attractive version of yourself AG - getting there is in your hands, and very achievable. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 08:30 AM
Classless people will be classless. It's just a fact of lifeIP: Logged |
Jo B
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posted June 14, 2015 08:46 AM
There's too much emphasis here on working out to perfection to make a man desirable to a woman.Personally I'm wary of men who work out a lot in gyms. It suggests a level of narcissism I'm not into. I prefer guys who play sports to keep fit than developing their six-packs. PS - I've been catwalk model thin (and toned from swimming) in the past as well as quite overweight. I tend to yoyo in body size. I wouldn't say I was any happier in myself or dating when I was skinny than I was when I was fatter. Ultimately it's just the packaging, it really is what's inside that counts. And actually I don't mind a guy with a bit of fat on his belly, so long as they fit the other body criteria I like (height, shoulders, as mentioned before) and have a good personality. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 08:49 AM
Odette,
Are you sure you don't have a Libra stellium? Because you are like the most wishy washy person I've ever known. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I actually wonder why you think working out or just existing, really, entitles you to a woman. Sorry, you're not entitled to a woman just because you're a nonviolent guy who works out. If you yourself don't think you are special than why should I as a woman think you are special enough to go out with? Dating someone necessarily involves isolating that which makes someone indistinguishable from the rest and committing yourself to that person for those unique traits and the opportunity for growth that can come as a result of your interaction with that person.Also, are men also "special snowflakes" if they have an attraction to exoticism in women? Because we had a man in this thread confess an attraction to women with exotic features. I guess only men are entitled to find novelty attractive. Women with any sort of preferences are just being spoiled. Btw, I prefer my own accent and while I wouldn't call it having an aversion to foreigners, I definitely ha e overwhelmingly dated my own Canadian-born men. The only foreign accent I find remotely attractive is Aussie and that's because it's so subtle I can actually still understand them. Many British dialects and especially cockney and Welsh are way too harsh for me. And don't even get me started on southern accents and how ugly they are to me. I just picture some rodeo cowboy on food stamps with a white hood exiting a trailer. So much for "universal appeal."  I don't know any women who find Southern accents attractive.
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aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
It is possible to work out and still be fat.Fat people usually have to settle for fat people or face long periods of celibacy. That's life.
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Aquacheeka
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From: Toronto
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2015 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Aquacheeka - I understand that you're getting frustrated about AG's views... but in these last two posts you're being too blunt in a way that could be genuinely hurtful.I'm sorry I brought up -working out- now. I didn't want people to attack him over this. Nvm
lol at "too blunt." The sheer volume of BS and hypocrisy that exits this man's mouth has warranted at least some degree of honesty, let's be real now lmao. I mean, a man who goes on and on about how fat women have no value and had a BMI of 30.6 until only very recently, putting them in the obese category (now merely overweight)... is this real life?? Talk about entitlement issues! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 09:01 AM
So now you know my BMI through the computer? I know you are probably too much of an ignoramus too realize this but muscle factors into weight too. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted June 14, 2015 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
And don't even get me started on southern accents and how ugly they are to me. I just picture some rodeo cowboy on food stamps with a white hood exiting a trailer
These words are ugly regardless of what accent you use. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:04 AM
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There's too much emphasis here on working out to perfection to make a man desirable to a woman.
Hmmmm..... Well he would attract a much greater number of women so his dating life would pick up.
This would make it easier and quicker for him to meet the right girl. He is not very patient - Gemini Mars... so it really seems like the best thing to do for him personally.
Not necessarily for all men. The problem is that when you don't stand out as -physically attractive- in a crowd - in our very sexual world - this does leave you with less options.
If you are not in a rush to find 'the one' and you're happy to let things move at their own pace (then it's ok).
But AG often seems like he is in a rush, and he is also picky (he has standards! I understand this part, as a fellow earth Moon). He also gets very frustrated and depressed as the days go by, and he isn't attracting anyone who seems right for him. All I'm saying is... When it's really important to a person to find a partner asap (and for that partner to be exactly as they want them) - their best bet is to make an effort to be and look their absolute best. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted June 14, 2015 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
So now you know my BMI through the computer? I know you are probably too much of an ignoramus too realize this but muscle factors into weight too.
Wow, you sure are a bright one. 215+25, = 245. 245 and 6'3 = obese. But I'm sure you're the 5% of people who were obese because of muscle mass, and your 25 pound weight loss was exclusively you cutting muscle from your body  AG, you talk waaaaay too much s**t to be so sensitive. I'm glad you're improving your outer appearance, that's the first step, but given the way you spoke about them I know you wouldn't have considered dating an obese woman. You yourself talk about "female hypergamy" but it's not like you were pursuing assortative mating yourself. Literally everything about you is hypocritical. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:09 AM
I didn't read all the posts here. AG - Did you say something about overweight women having no value? :/IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:11 AM
&I'm not being wishy washy. I'm being honest.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Wow, you sure are a bright one. 215+25, = 245. 245 and 6'3 = obese. But I'm sure you're the 5% of people who were obese because of muscle mass, and your 25 pound weight loss was exclusively you cutting muscle from your body AG, you talk waaaaay too much s**t to be so sensitive. I'm glad you're improving your outer appearance, that's the first step, but given the way you spoke about them I know you wouldn't have considered dating an obese woman. You yourself talk about "female hypergamy" but it's not like you were pursuing assortative mating yourself. Literally everything about you is hypocritical.
Go back to elementary school sweetheart... 215+25 is 240, not 245... And i'm not sensitive, i'm dealing with you with far more composure and class than you deserve.
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aquaguy91
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posted June 14, 2015 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I didn't read all the posts here. AG - Did you say something about overweight women having no value? :/
No,
I never said that. Do you think a woman who thinks 215+25 =245 has any credibility?IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:16 AM
I guess this thread will get closed any minute now.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2015 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
[b] Wow, you sure are a bright one. 215+25, = 245. 245 and 6'3 = obese. But I'm sure you're the 5% of people who were obese because of muscle mass, and your 25 pound weight loss was exclusively you cutting muscle from your body AG, you talk waaaaay too much s**t to be so sensitive. I'm glad you're improving your outer appearance, that's the first step, but given the way you spoke about them I know you wouldn't have considered dating an obese woman. You yourself talk about "female hypergamy" but it's not like you were pursuing assortative mating yourself. Literally everything about you is hypocritical.
Go back to elementary school sweetheart... 215+25 is 240, not 245... And i'm not sensitive, i'm dealing with you with far more composure and class than you deserve. [/B][/QUOTE]
I 100% expected you to be speechless because I'm right and you know it. You're a hypocrite. You have one set of standards for men (and yourself), and another set for women. You have no problem making generalizations about women, but get offended when others make generalizations which can apply to you in a negative way (such as a personal aversion to your accent which you claimed was "universally attractive" to women, meaning ALL women). You don't see the irony in claiming that women are all shallow and won't date a man unless he is tall, rich, has status, etc. but you're 6'3 and white and still can't get a date, or how revealing that actually is. If you spent even 1/4th as much time on self-reflection as you do on misogyny you would probably have had different results by now.
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 11412
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posted June 14, 2015 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Wow, you sure are a bright one. 215+25, = 245. 245 and 6'3 = obese. But I'm sure you're the 5% of people who were obese because of muscle mass, and your 25 pound weight loss was exclusively you cutting muscle from your body AG, you talk waaaaay too much s**t to be so sensitive. I'm glad you're improving your outer appearance, that's the first step, but given the way you spoke about them I know you wouldn't have considered dating an obese woman. You yourself talk about "female hypergamy" but it's not like you were pursuing assortative mating yourself. Literally everything about you is hypocritical.
And for your information I have pursued women that would be considered overweight. And my BMI was never above 27. Again, muscle is part of weight.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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From: Toronto
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 14, 2015 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Odette:
[b]I didn't read all the posts here. AG - Did you say something about overweight women having no value? :/
No,
I never said that. Do you think a woman who thinks 215+25 =245 has any credibility?[/B][/QUOTE]
BMI of 30.0. Still obese.
You're welcome to verify that yourself: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm IP: Logged |
Jo B
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From: London, UK with myself
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 14, 2015 09:23 AM
You can close the thread if you want... although it seems lots of these types of discussions end up getting closed. Silly really. *Reaches for the biscuits. Sod the gym. * IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 11412
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posted June 14, 2015 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
BMI of 30.0. Still obese.You're welcome to verify that yourself: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
Again, muscle factors into weight. I have never been above 27. But I dont expect someone who thinks 215+25= 245 to understand such advanced concepts. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted June 14, 2015 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
[b]
BMI of 30.0. Still obese.You're welcome to verify that yourself: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
Again, muscle factors into weight. I have never been above 27. But I dont expect someone who thinks 215+25= 245 to understand such advanced concepts. [/B][/QUOTE]Alrighty then, so you were merely lying when you said, "I am over 6'3 and weigh 215 now. I have lost 25 pounds since December"? Because that would put you at 240 prior to the weight loss, which would put you at a BMI of AT LEAST 30.0 then. 30 > 27. You can't just magically decide your extra weight (that made you obese) was all muscle mass and your "true" BMI was 27 . That's magical thinking. And to answer your question from earlier, my BMI is 23.7 and I've never been overweight. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:32 AM
Oh Boy.
It's the BMI wars!IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted June 14, 2015 09:34 AM
You can fixate on the weight issue all you like but I actually think your greater issue is with your personality. Yes, you were fat, but that shouldn't necessarily be a problem since a lot of people in the south are fat. I actually don't think your looks are preventing you from finding someone. I think your selectiveness and the way you come across are likely your biggest problems. Lastly, your location. You yourself have conceded that you get better results elsewhere. So the obvious solution to that conundrum would be to relocate to those places where you get better results. Whining endlessly about the women in your country is not conducive to finding a partner, if that is indeed what you really want. Even when you get results elsewhere you complain about those women being responsive as if they shouldn't have a right to be attracted to you for whatever trait made you stand out to them, and insult them too!I'm not sure why you think you deserve a woman at all, really. You don't. It'd be like me saying I hate dogs and they're stupid animals that shouldn't even exist so I really want to adopt one. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted June 14, 2015 09:39 AM
^ I don't know about that.
AG has been very open on LL, but the average girl who meets him wouldn't be aware of a great majority of his views.
Mainly if we are talking about just seeing photos and a dating-site profile.
So.. I don't think he is getting rejected for these reasons.IP: Logged |
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