posted June 16, 2015 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Faith,
That thread is probably over 2 years old now and I don't remember the title so I can't do that.Also, who is visiting a man hating forum 20 times a day? Not me.... I'm studying a language, practicing a musical instrument, and reading travel books when I'm not working or busy doing something else.

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The fact that you had to search in your mind to "a long time ago" to come up with any dirt on me, that may even suggest I hold to double standards, proves that I am not often guilty of double standards. I try very hard not to be.

And I remember the conversation now. All I was saying is, dick is a less pejorative word than pu$$y, in my opinion, because Dick is a man's name, and pu$$y is used more often in a negative context. Just a linguistic opinion, and it seems to be reinforced by the fact that I can say dick here, and I'm not censored, but if I try and write pu$$y, I am. Apparently Randall agrees with me, then.

It wasn't meant to be taken as a militant feminist position that negates everything else I just said, about giving all people a fair shake. It was just about the relative intensity of insults.

But you twisted it.

As for your attendance at the woman-hating forums...of course I have no idea how often you're there.

But you are there, right?

ETA: Sorry for all the typos.

posted June 16, 2015 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
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There's far more single men in this country than single women. And single women still b*tch about not being able to find a man. So here in the U.S you have tons of single thirsty men that will jump on any woman they can get and this gives the women huge egos. Even the unattractive ones think they are supermodels.

Women only see the alpha males.

Most women views on men are flawed. Why? Because they only see the top tier men.

The Chad Thundercocks of the world can usually be found in college fraternities and are tall, muscular,conventionally handsome, and dress in expensive clothes and drive nice cars paid for by their parents. Personality wise they are extremely arrogant to the point of narcissism and are loud and extroverted. These guys also enjoy tons of popularity/high social status. Basically they are the epitome of what modern women see as the alpha male.

The average guy will just throw himself at any woman here because he is desperate. It's kind of like someone who is starving being willing to eat food out of the garbage can, that's how bad it is here.

And that's why women here always come into discussions about prostitution with emotional arguments against it like yours. They don't want American men to have that option because they would lose some of their power and wouldn't have as many thirsty male orbiters worshipping the ground they walk on in the hopes that they might get laid.

I get positive reactions from women because they like my accent. Like I said women are obsessed with that kind of crap because its a novelty to them.

I can't even go to a store or order food at a restaurant without having women commenting on my accent. Women are obsessed with that sh*t.

And yes women in the U.S are frigid unless the guy is top tier in terms of looks,money,status,or provides novelty. If a guy fits one of those categories women become easy. The reason for the first 3 are obvious but the novelty thing is worth explaining. You see women here have special snowflake syndrome. They all believe that they are special and terribly interesting and are too good for the average local guy that lives an average lifestyle even if the woman is average in every since of the word herself. So that's where the appeal for the guy with the different accent come in. Such guys have built-in value because they are different and provide novelty. Thus the special snowflake women feel such men are worthy partners. Just think about it.... If a woman in the U.S dates guy with a different accent she'll stand out and get noticed.

Women are very vain creatures and thrive off attention. I mean we are talking about a nation of women that actively compete with each other to get the most Facebook likes. lol

The majority of the women always gravitate towards a small minority of guys and ignore the rest and the rest of the guys are talking amongst themselves or clamoring for the attention of the remaining girls. Female hypergamy is very real.

There's a myth that women don't value looks as much as men and usually develop attraction for a guy after getting to know him (which is basically how you describe demisexuality) but that's not been my experience at all.

See this just confirms what I already knew. Women don't listen.

Guys are more socially forgiving than women

How do you explain the decent average guys that are being rejected by average women? Who are too busy banging the best looking guys and bad boys in hopes that they will commit to them instead of one of the other women in their harem. Right... That doesn't happen does it?

Do you think I'm going to be confident when women ignore me at best and are rude and hateful towards me at worst? Because this is exactly what happens when I try to talk to women 99% of the time. But it's my fault right?

At this point you are just being an argumenative (expletive). Go take a midol or something.

I don't really have positive experiences with women to speak of. The only truly positive relationship I had with a woman was my grandma and she died back in 2004.

Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? I never said I couldn't feel empathy for any woman. Just women I don't like

And I'm supposedly the hateful one? Lol

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talk about a psycho headcase. CREEPY!!!!

posted June 16, 2015 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
The fact that you had to search in your mind to "a long time ago" to come up with any dirt on me, that may even suggest I hold to double standards, proves that I am not often guilty of double standards. I try very hard not to be.

And I remember the conversation now. All I was saying is, dick is a less pejorative word than pu$$y, in my opinion, because Dick is a man's name, and pu$$y is used more often in a negative context. Just a linguistic opinion, and it seems to be reinforced by the fact that I can say dick here, and I'm not censored, but if I try and write pu$$y, I am. Apparently Randall agrees with me, then.

It wasn't meant to be taken as a militant feminist position that negates everything else I just said, about giving all people a fair shake. It was just about the relative intensity of insults.

But you twisted it.

As for your attendance at the woman-hating forums...of course I have no idea how often you're there.

But you are there, right?

ETA: Sorry for all the typos.

After seeing how often Aquacheeka's math error was brought to her attention, I'm afraid to make any mistakes. LOL

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Btw, ag is also a hypocrite because he freaks out when you express the opinion that southerners have weird hickcents and you most certainly do NOT go crazy for it, but it's OK for him to generalize all women in an entire country.

posted June 16, 2015 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Btw, ag is also a hypocrite because he freaks out when you express the opinion that southerners have weird hickcents and you most certainly do NOT go crazy for it, but it's OK for him to generalize all women in an entire country.

He also freaks out when you point out that a BMI of 30, which he had by his own admission until December before losing 25 pounds, is considered obese. I mean, that is just a fact. Take it up with the Mayo Clinic or the US Department of Health if you don't like the designation.

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posted June 16, 2015 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
So you remember the thread then? Why did you act like you didn't know what I was
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Who really cares?

Are you trying to nail me on lying or something? I mean....what's this about?

I remembered more of the conversation after I thought about it for a little while. That's how my memory works.

Oh, and you don't need the thread title to find a thread.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
And for the record I wasn't bringing up that up to paint you as having double standards. I brought it up because its a perfect example of a time I've been attacked for simply having a different opinion.

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Actually yes, you were bringing that up to paint me as having double standards. Anyone can go back and read how the exchange went. You can't wriggle your way out of this.

I told you that I love men and you said you didn't buy it. I gave you a heartfelt hippie speech about how good it feels to wish the best for other people, and you threw this in my face: "I don't buy it."

Look at yourself. Stop saying crap and then saying, "I didn't say that." How many times do you say, "I didn't say that" when people are actually paraphrasing you and summarizing quite accurately? Why disown your own words?

See how you fight with yourself?

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
What I said was completely reasonable and logical and I was called a sexist and all sorts of other things, so it was pretty much like any other thread where I say anything remotely controversial. And no, I'm not on any man hating forums.

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You get called a sexist here because you are one. You make hardcore sexist comments often, so if you make a comment that sounds slightly misogynistic, it triggers a memory of all these other conversations we've had, where you were verbally abusing women.

You have baggage, bad karma, whatever you want to call it.

Sometimes you make good points but in such a woman-loathing way...like you cannot defend men without vomiting all over women...that your defense of men just gets lost in the verbage. Nobody wants to agree with you in those instances, because they don't want to endorse that extra tint of hatred and even violence in your arguments.

I say "violence" deliberately. It manifests itself in many ways. Just the other day you talked about how men would want to hit me if I were a guy, and how people want to shake people like T. Your mind goes to images of violence.

posted June 16, 2015 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Faith,
Yes. D*ck is a name. But I could also make the argument that p*ssy is also a nickname for cats and shouldn't be considered an insult to women when it's used. But none of that really matters... The point is both genders genitals are used as an insult but it's only considered sexist when p*ssy is used as an insult and that is a double standard. That's a fact no matter how much you try to dodge it.

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posted June 16, 2015 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
And [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
[b] Btw, ag is also a hypocrite because he freaks out when you express the opinion that southerners have weird hickcents and you most certainly do NOT go crazy for it, but it's OK for him to generalize all women in an entire country.

He also freaks out when you point out that a BMI of 30, which he had by his own admission until December before losing 25 pounds, is considered obese. I mean, that is just a fact. Take it up with the Mayo Clinic or the US Department of Health if you don't like the designation.

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And you are still a massive hypocrite with severe mental health issues. In short, you are creepy.

posted June 16, 2015 10:33 AM            

I feel like, if you are so proud to be MGTOW, you should tell us how often you're at the forum and you should tell every girl you are interested in, up front, that you are a card-carrying member of MGTOW and give her your screen name at that forum or whatever forum you belong to, in case they want to know your full, "logical," reasonable opinions about women.

If you are so proud of your ideology and you really think you can find a girl who will just agree with all your woman-hating and back you up for it, then go out on a limb and try it.

posted June 16, 2015 10:35 AM            

AG makes it sound like a crime, to appreciate an accent.

It's not just novelty, there are Southern traditions of hospitality and cordiality that are alive and well. I know Southerners personally, they do exhibit these positive traits, and I love this about them.

So I hear a Southern accent and think, "They might be kind, like other Southerners." There's a chance that their upbringing was like that of other good Southerners.

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Any excuse to post an Elvis pic

This is what I mean by Southern manners.

posted June 16, 2015 10:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
AG,

I feel like, if you are so proud to be MGTOW, you should tell us how often you're at the forum and you should tell every girl you are interested in, up front, that you are a card-carrying member of MGTOW and give her your screen name at that forum or whatever forum you belong to, in case they want to know your full, "logical," reasonable opinions about women.

If you are so proud of your ideology and you really think you can find a girl who will just agree with all your woman-hating and back you up for it, then go out on a limb and try it.

To me it's like being in the Ku Klux Klan and trying to date a black person.

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posted June 16, 2015 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I actually am one of those girls who love that "$hit" about Southern accents.

AG makes it sound like a crime, to appreciate an accent.

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It's only a crime if you're a woman, remember? He had no problem with Cosmic's admission that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features. Exoticism is fine if it's men pursuing it, just like all behaviours are considered neutral or positive if men are doing it, but negative if women are.

posted June 16, 2015 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

It's only a crime if you're a woman, remember? He had no problem with Cosmic's admission that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features. Exoticism is fine if it's men pursuing it, just like all behaviours are considered neutral or positive if men are doing it, but negative if women are.

Misogyny and hating women is second nature to him so he's literally oblivious to his various hypocrisies.

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That seems to be the case.

Sadly enough

ETA: I also think some people can go into a kind of dogma-mode, where they are rattling off the bullet points that define the movement they subscribe to, without consciously *thinking* about what they are saying.

It's almost like they are speaking in code, and they want you to understand the whole psychology behind their movement, and they get frustrated when you focus on their actual words (the code) instead of the psychological core of that ideology (which is usually just pain.)

There is that saying, "Hurt people will hurt people."

So here I think AG is trying to get the pain out of himself by making other people participate in it...like it's a splinter he can pull out of himself and jam into someone else.

posted June 16, 2015 10:45 AM            

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It'sad no problem with on that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features

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posted June 16, 2015 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Cosmic phuz was the one talking about Victoria's Secret models. Get your facts straight. What does that have to do with me?

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LOL, did you actually alter the text and delete what she said about Cosmic Phuz? How is it that you "quoted her" and yet, it's not what she said?

What she said:

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He had no problem with Cosmic's admission that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features.

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What you said she said:

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It'sad no problem with on that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features

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posted June 16, 2015 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
What you said she said:
[QUOTE]It'sad no problem with on that he likes the Victoria's Secret models because they have exotic facial features

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posted June 16, 2015 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No. My keyboard on my smartphone is jacked up and wasn't cooperating with me. But it still begs the question. What does something he said have to do with me?

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*facepalm* You are being deliberately obtuse now. I refuse to believe that you're actually this dumb so I am convinced you're playing stupid.

You did not have a problem with a man expressing a physical preference for exoticism. But you sneer at women who like your accent (god only knows why) as being "special snowflakes" because SOME women have an attraction to certain traits that may be novel in their respective region.

posted June 16, 2015 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No. My keyboard on my smartphone is jacked up and wasn't cooperating with me. But it still begs the question. What does something he said have to do with me?

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? Even if your phone was messed up, did you not read her correct text before you quoted it and formulated a reply?

You said: "Cosmic phuz was the one talking about Victoria's Secret models. Get your facts straight."

As if she hadn't already clearly stated that he was the one talking about them.

I really like Aquacheeka, but she and I don't argue the same way, so I will let her answer your questions.

ETA: Oops I was too late!

posted June 16, 2015 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

*facepalm* You are being deliberately obtuse now. I refuse to believe that you're actually this dumb so I am convinced you're playing stupid.

You did not have a problem with a man expressing a physical preference for exoticism. But you sneer at women who like your accent (god only knows why) as being "special snowflakes" because SOME women have an attraction to certain traits that may be novel in their respective region.

And yes it's definitely not 'universally attractive' to women, as you stated. I am a woman, and I think your accent is probably ugly. Hi. We exist. Women are individuals. We don't share a hivemind. We are entitled to our individual preferences. Just like men are. You claim that there's nothing wrong with men pursuing their "biological imperative" to pursue women who are youthful and attractive, and I didn't even take issue with your assertion of that. But once again sneer, criticize and look down on women who want to date men who are physically attractive as being shallow and "hypergamous." And btw, the manosphere 'tards are not even using the term in the correct context. In order for a woman to be hypergamous she must be exclusively pursuing men who make more money and/or have more education than she does. Simply dating a man who is physically attractive does not qualify.

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Well said.

I cringe on behalf of Southerners when you criticize their "ugly" accent but if that's really how you see it...well I guess everyone is being blunt here.

I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings with remarks like that and honestly, I have dated enough men of all different sorts to know for sure that I was always going for personality above all. So I don't even think it's worth making a statement on my general preferences and dislikes. I like who I like for all kinds of reasons.

I broke up with guys who were too good looking or too smart for me. I mean, my husband is extremely smart about some things, but I am smart about other things, and we complement each other. I broke up with the Physicist from Yale because he was more intelligent in basically every category and definitely needed to be dating in a higher IQ range to be happy.

posted June 16, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
And you had to be playing dumb when you took my use of the word universal out of context. The technical definition of universal means something that applies across the board. Obviously that almost never happens because there are always exceptions to the rule. When I said my accent is universally attractive I meant that I could go to any place and find tons of women who would find it attractive because it is the truth. And your response was to personally call my accent ugly and make fun of people in the south. And you have said this more than once and have been very obnoxious and rude. You have also said tons of other mean sh*t. I have always been nice to you as an individual and you have been nothing but a mean spirited witch towards me. Yes, I comment on the trends I see in women's behavior as far as dating goes but I have never been intentionally rude or mean to an individual woman unless they have been rude or mean to me first. So with that said you have pushed me too far so I'm just going to speak my mind. I don't think you are physically ugly but you have the ugliest personality I have ever encountered.... I tried to keep my cool but you just kept attacking me and acting belligerent. There is no excuse for your rude behavior. You say I'm a woman hating psycho but that's not true. I just dislike mean-spirited and mouthy witches like you. Women like Ami Ann, Odette,and Charmaine are precious and I have nothing but good things to say about them. If only there were more women like them and less like you I wouldn't have any reason to speak ill of women. But sadly good women like them are the minority these days. So I have to dig through the junk pile to find the diamond.

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I really don't care if you don't like my personality. Because your own is defective. I have not once minced words here. I think you have severe mental health issues and that your sole purpose for being here is to projectile vomit your woman hatred on every woman you can find as if we are responsible for the fact that every woman you encounter in your area is repulsed by you. I think rather than try to hold us accountable and make us feel guilty for sharing the same genitalia as those who you feel wronged by, you need to spend more time being introspective (yes, that includes counselling) and go elsewhere. It's not about censorship. It's about basic consideration and awareness of where you are (in case the pink background was not obvious enough).
Faith pointed out that you have wished violence upon people. Multiple people have pointed out that it makes no sense for you to pursue women since you clearly hate them. You're clearly not right in the head and don't seem to be a good person by any normal standards. I have simply pointed out that it makes no sense for you to be in a female-dominated forum when you are only using it as a platform to spout bigotry and to derail every thread into whiny, self-pitying misogynistic rants completely devoid of any self-awareness or introspection. I mean, like, from what I can see, you're not even a man. You're a 20-something child. I don't have control of who posts here since I am not a moderator, but if I were, I would ban you because you and everything about you is toxic. I am frankly shocked that you have any real life friends.

posted June 16, 2015 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
And you had to be playing dumb when you took my use of the word universal out of context. The technical definition of universal means something that applies across the board. Obviously that almost never happens because there are always exceptions to the rule. When I said my accent is universally attractive I meant that I could go to any place and find tons of women who would find it attractive because it is the truth. And your response was to personally call my accent ugly and make fun of people in the south. And you have said this more than once and have been very obnoxious and rude. You have also said tons of other mean sh*t. I have always been nice to you as an individual and you have been nothing but a mean spirited witch towards me. Yes, I comment on the trends I see in women's behavior as far as dating goes but I have never been intentionally rude or mean to an individual woman unless they have been rude or mean to me first. So with that said you have pushed me too far so I'm just going to speak my mind. I don't think you are physically ugly but you have the ugliest personality I have ever encountered.... I tried to keep my cool but you just kept attacking me and acting belligerent. There is no excuse for your rude behavior. You say I'm a woman hating psycho but that's not true. I just dislike mean-spirited and mouthy witches like you. Women like Ami Ann, Odette,and Charmaine are precious and I have nothing but good things to say about them. If only there were more women like them and less like you I wouldn't have any reason to speak ill of women. But sadly good women like them are the minority these days. So I have to dig through the junk pile to find the diamond.

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