posted June 05, 2015 05:05 PM            

It's funny that when it happens with older men approaching younger women, it's considered creepy or unacceptable.

And the dynamic changes between cities and suburbs/country is pretty funny. You've got women in the suburbs acting like they are drop dead gorgeous when they would be considered bottom-of-the-barrel in the city.

posted June 05, 2015 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
As far as women approaching me, I've had more older women than young directly tell me they think I'm hot. Maybe it's because they're more mellowed out and don't care what my reaction is.

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Or they just find you attractive!

I've noticed as I've gotten older (I'm 50 now) the men (when I've had them!) have been getting younger. I don't pursue them, we just sort of click. I must admit it was quite flattering having an attractive younger man find ME attractive but tbh I wouldn't really want a relationship with someone under 30 unless they were especially mature in their ways.

They say the cut-off point is half your age plus 7. So for me that's around the 32 year mark.

posted June 05, 2015 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
As far as women approaching me, I've had more older women than young directly tell me they think I'm hot. Maybe it's because they're more mellowed out and don't care what my reaction is. But I'm never creeped out or disgusted by it. I've even gone home with a few of them (some of them sure were beautiful, regardless of age). Younger women seem to still care a lot about what others think of them, more nerves. They usually prefer to be pursued.

It's funny that when it happens with older men approaching younger women, it's considered creepy or unacceptable.

And the dynamic changes between cities and suburbs/country is pretty funny. You've got women in the suburbs acting like they are drop dead gorgeous when they would be considered bottom-of-the-barrel in the city.

I do know for a fact that Atlanta has more single women than single men (20's to 30's). If I'm still single when I'm 30, maybe I'll move down there. At least there's good food, music scene, and affordable housing!

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It's just that when older men approach younger women.... It's that weird dynamic where they usually have a lot of power and experience and they're into women that don't. Or they just hit on you for fun and that in itself is kinda annoying and creepy. Sorry but if someone way older hits on me, I find that really skeezy. A guy doesn't hit on s girl obviously 15 years younger than him because he thinks they are a good match and will connect....

posted June 05, 2015 08:48 PM            

That's not to say our preferences mean any less, though. But I think preferences are more in tune with our mental than they are with our animal.

posted June 05, 2015 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Jo B:

Men are attracted to attractive women, regardless of age.

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posted June 05, 2015 09:18 PM            

^ At that point the person pursuing should back off.

If they don't back off.. that's when things become creepy, immoral and potentially illegal, if taken too far :\

^ Not much connection to age or gender

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A guy doesn't hit on s girl obviously 15 years younger than him because he thinks they are a good match and will connect....

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Really? That seems obvious to you?
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What an odd thing to say.
People can fall in love and have things in common, completely regardless of age.

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It's natural for men to be attracted to younger women, it's an evolutionary thing. Young women are fertile and can bear children

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On a purely sexual level - that's probably true for a majority of non-asexual, hetero men.
But many people don't enter relationships with someone they are purely -sexually attracted- to... and conversely, they do at times, enter relationships with people they have a lot of other things in common with (despite not having a strong sexual attraction).

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posted June 05, 2015 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
BansheeQueen,
It's natural for men to be attracted to younger women, it's an evolutionary thing. Young women are fertile and can bear children, older women lose that ability past a certain age.But modern society shames and all but criminalizes male sexuality. I find it odd when I hear people shaming older guys for being attracted to or pursuing younger women because women usually like older men! If you look at the majority of relationships the man is older than the woman by at least a few years. Of course, there are exceptions to this but generally speaking men date younger and women date older. So why are men shamed for following the natural order of things?

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It's also natural for women to be attracted to fit young strong men that can fight off a dire wolf and protect you from... I dunno like a saber tooth tiger or something... but it's society that tells us to be attracted to a powerful older man that can buy you and you kids things with his sexy money. Yeah women date men a few years older because society says it's somehow better. But still... I don't count a few years difference as being anything to note. It's like a difference over around 10 years that is something to note. Even 7 years is enough for two people to have nothing in common I think but I've heard the older you get, you have more in common with a bigger gap. And I don't think most women want a guy that old. When they say they want an older guy, they mean like within a few years, and still in their immediate generation. The way I see it, I don't wanna waste my youth hanging out with an old guy bringing me down lol. My first relationship was with someone older than me. Let's just say I was a teen and he was college age. When you're a teen, that is actually a huge difference and I feel like I didn't get to experience my carefree teenage years because I was wrapped up in older guy problems. And I didn't get to experience innocent teenage love. I was already jaded and love was already harsh. And I was not ready for the relationship at all. But that is an extreme example but I just wanna let you know where I am coming from.

posted June 05, 2015 09:25 PM            

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As far as women approaching me, I've had more older women than young directly tell me they think I'm hot. Maybe it's because they [...] don't care what my reaction is.

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I feel like the older I get, the more confident I am. So the reason they are approaching you - could just be confidence.
I'm in my late 20s and when I was younger teens/early 20s - I was considerably less confident and less open about my feelings in general.

Now I feel like: This is who I am. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, you don't.
I am not very sensitive to rejection. I actually think many people lose sensitivity to rejection as they get older, because it's part of "growing up" to realise that there are different people in this world - and not everyone will like you.
(^ That goes for both friends and romantic interests)

posted June 05, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I agree with you, Jo B. But I think where aquaguy is coming from is more from the primal instinct side of it. Just like how the primal part of a man will make him seek a woman with wide hips and big breasts for child-bearing purposes, even if he doesn't want to have children. Same with the desire for younger women. It's the animal instinct.

That's not to say our preferences mean any less, though. But I think preferences are more in tune with our mental than they are with our animal.

Like you said though, men like attractive woman. I can always appreciate a hot woman, whatever age.

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posted June 05, 2015 09:46 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
It's also natural for women to be attracted to fit young strong men that can fight off a dire wolf and protect you from... I dunno like a saber tooth tiger or something... but it's society that tells us to be attracted to a powerful older man that can buy you and you kids things with his sexy money. Yeah women date men a few years older because society says it's somehow better. But still... I don't count a few years difference as being anything to note. It's like a difference over around 10 years that is something to note. Even 7 years is enough for two people to have nothing in common I think but I've heard the older you get, you have more in common with a bigger gap. And I don't think most women want a guy that old. When they say they want an older guy, they mean like within a few years, and still in their immediate generation. The way I see it, I don't wanna waste my youth hanging out with an old guy bringing me down lol. My first relationship was with someone older than me. Let's just say I was a teen and he was college age. When you're a teen, that is actually a huge difference and I feel like I didn't get to experience my carefree teenage years because I was wrapped up in older guy problems. And I didn't get to experience innocent teenage love. I was already jaded and love was already harsh. And I was not ready for the relationship at all. But that is an extreme example but I just wanna let you know where I am coming from.

Also, I said its skeezy because I think any guy hitting on me for any reason other than wanting to know me on a real level is creepy. And if it's an older guy, he definitely isn't hitting on me because we both have the same interests and outlook on life. He's hitting on the younger girl because of that primal instinct making his dick hard. And that. ******* . Creeps. Me. Out. He's not thinking wow I wanna get to know her personality, he's thinking wow I wanna tap that.

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posted June 05, 2015 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Also, I said its skeezy because I think any guy hitting on me for any reason other than wanting to know me on a real level is creepy. And if it's an older guy, he definitely isn't hitting on me because we both have the same interests and outlook on life. He's hitting on the younger girl because of that primal instinct making his dick hard. And that. ******* . Creeps. Me. Out. He's not thinking wow I wanna get to know her personality, he's thinking wow I wanna tap that.

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Sorry to bust your bubble, girl, but most (if not all) guys hitting on women want to bang them in some way shape or form. Sure, some of them want to get to know their personality too. But not without some kind of sexual motivation behind it. Anyone who convinced you otherwise is a good liar. If this wasn't true, no one would be lonely.

If a woman is hitting on me and flirting, I know she's thinking of banging me. And that's ok, it doesn't creep me out at all. Even if she's ugly. Cause you know what, we're all human beings and deserve our right to pleasures.

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Nothing in science is a cold hard fact. It's all theories that are deemed to be fact because a few people decided there is enough to evidence to support it. Until the next hot popular theory comes along. I also heard men prefer blondes because it doesn't show grey hair so it looks more youthful... Or something. And that men prefer blue eyes because it can indicate fertility. I dunno just sounds kinda strange. Like you don't need an excuse to like what you like. But also you can't just e

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Blonde hair and blue eyes are subjective and speculation/opinion. Wide hips for giving birth and large breasts for infant feeding are straightforward facts.

posted June 06, 2015 12:16 AM            

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Most (if not all) guys hitting on women want to bang them

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Approaching someone purely because you want to have sex with them (i.e. this is your primary motivation) - and - approaching someone for several reasons, including the fact that you find them attractive sexually (i.e. sex is not a primary motivation) .... are different things.

Whether or not people's (regardless of gender) primary motivation in "hitting on someone" is sex -- depends on a few things:

posted June 06, 2015 12:19 AM            

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If a woman is hitting on me and flirting, I know she's thinking of banging me.

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You're only referring to perfect strangers "hitting on" each other?

Either way... your replies only suit *some* particular situations, and not others.

So....

posted June 06, 2015 01:02 AM            

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Approaching someone purely because you want to have sex with them (i.e. this is your primary motivation) - and - approaching someone for several reasons, including the fact that you find them attractive sexually (i.e. sex is not a primary motivation) .... are different things.

Whether or not people's (regardless of gender) primary motivation in "hitting on someone" is sex -- depends on a few things:

1. Your definition of "hitting on" ,
2. The length of time they already know the person they are approaching, and
3. Their future plans with that person

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posted June 06, 2015 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Approaching someone purely because you want to have sex with them (i.e. this is your primary motivation) - and - approaching someone for several reasons, including the fact that you find them attractive sexually (i.e. sex is not a primary motivation) .... are different things.

Whether or not people's (regardless of gender) primary motivation in "hitting on someone" is sex -- depends on a few things:

1. Your definition of "hitting on" ,
2. The length of time they already know the person they are approaching, and
3. Their future plans with that person

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Note that I said "in some way shape or form", you seemed to have left that out when you quoted me. I never said primary or purely. Whether it's wanting to have sex later that night, in a couple weeks, getting into a relationship first, taking it slow, finding them sexually attractive, etc. Either way, there's a sexual motivation and/or attraction that's driving a person to hit on someone else. Am I wrong?

If a woman is touching my leg, talking into my ear, buying me a drink, telling me I'm hot, then yea, their motivation is wanting to bang me! And if I'm doing the same thing to a woman, then it's my motivation as well. It may not be my mission for the night, I'd have to like her personality too, but yea, I'd like to bang her sometime if we connected and situation/circumstances permit. I personally never hit on someone just because I "purely and only want to have sex with them". But some people do! Besides, judging my primary motivations for anything based on some forum replies is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

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You're only referring to perfect strangers "hitting on" each other?

Either way... your replies only suit *some* particular situations, and not others.

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I don't know what you mean. Just trying to have an honest truthful conversation here. I have no tolerance for agendas.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Odette,
He obviously meant the desire to bang a girl (physical attraction) is almost always what makes a guy interested in getting to know her. Physical attraction is the catalyst.And yes, a guy can want to bang a girl and care about her and respect her as a person at the same time

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posted June 06, 2015 09:47 AM            

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And let's just say that an older man does expect a woman to be young and attractive, hypothetically speaking of course. Would that be unreasonable? Perhaps.... It could be argued that the said man has unreasonable expectations. But.... Is he any more unreasonable than the average woman that expects or demands that men be 6ft or taller? Or the women who will only date men of a certain race,income/education level, or personality etc.? It sure seems like women can have preferences but anytime a man has preferences he is shallow,unreasonable,or can't handle a strong/independent/real woman. Unless he is Chad Thundercock of course! Then he can have standards.

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And MGTOW's aren't hypocrites? They go on and on about child custody laws and how they favour women, how marriage these days is too much of a risk, how falling in love is too much of a gamble, and if a man gets left by his wife you fully sympathize with him. No matter WHAT his motives were for choosing the wife (i.e. he wanted a trophy).

But if a woman falls in love with a man and he turns out after a few or several years to be a cheater or abusive and CAUSES her to have to leave him, it's, "Oh well, you CHOSE him so I don't have any sympathy for you. You should've known better."
I suppose MGTOW/MRA hypocrites think love is only a gamble for the man and women are just expected to be psychic or responsible for the man in the relationship's behaviour.

posted June 06, 2015 11:33 AM            

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But who/what is MGTOW and MRA?

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