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Topic: GODZALA - Terminator vs Alien vs Rafe
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:02 PM
quote: Sometimes i wonder about him though. I think he would have high highs but LOW lows. I think his depressions could lead to suicide. I think he would be the type of person to get to that mind-set. He would stick to the decisions he's made. Once his mind is made up, there's no stopping him. So if he got into that type of despair, it would be dangerous.
I don't think he'd be suicidal now. He has a great deal of love and support around him - that really has been his saving grace. And I think he's really grateful for that. You can't have high highs without really low lows too. They're part of the same pendulum, and that thing is always swinging. He has a lot to look forward too. There's a lot of film roles coming his way. He was there once before (with Ally McBeal) and blew it, so to speak. He won't be doing that again. He let a lot of people who believed in him down. He couldn't live with himself, I don't think, if he did that again - if he felt that he did that to others again.
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:05 PM
No, i'm not saying he WILL, i'm saying he's capable.Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:13 PM
quote: I'm sorry that you were taught that. To hold it all in. Do you struggle with that now? As an adult?
I don't know if it's a struggle. Certainly because I have this bubbly personality, when something is serious, I'm not sure if that is conveyed. I don't know, really. I never have a good sense of how others see me. People tell me I'm warm. Whereas I don't see how they see that. But I'm glad it translates, because I do care very deeply about people. I just go about things my own way. I'm okay as long as I don't feel I have to behave in a certain way. If I'm just relaxed and me, I'm fine. But put me at a dinner table where we have to use certain cutlery and act all nice and proper - I'm lost. Unleash me - and I'm in my natural element. "I think it's interesting that you say you see him in yourself. You say the same thing about RDJ. But with RDJ it's not a HUGE sexual thing, right? So then is Daniel more of an RDJ to you? Or more of a Colin?" I don't think I said that about Daniel. RDJ I see as the person on this planet I believe to be the closest to the person that I am. That's exactly how I see him. I never talk about him as a man or sexually because I don't see that in him - but that doesn't mean it's not there. It's not predominant, like it is with Colin. Daniel is just a man that I find very attractive. Nothing else. I love his James Bond.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:16 PM
No, there was no offense there. I didn't take any offense. I think once upon a time (or, many many times) RDJ could and would have thought of suicide. Prison would have been beyond hell. And at the same time it saved his life. Do we really want to know what he had to do to survive in a prison environment? If he was going to do it - it would have been done by now. Actually, he must have a very strong will for survival. Or a strong fear of death.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:19 PM
I'm sure you know that Viggo is a published poet. That would appeal to the romantic in you. I'm deeply romantic too - but I don't think it would show the way yours does. Maybe it just translate differently in our individual expressions.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:21 PM
I think you see The English Patient and think he walked through the desert, yada, yada, yada, how romantic. And I look at Maggie and Sam in Addicted to Love sitting on a couch together sharing a meal and their heads together and laughing while they're stalking their exes from the building across and I think that's romantic. LOL! Not the stalking part. The sitting there laughing together.  IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:22 PM
I do view you as warm. I view you as a rock. As glue. You would hold the puzzle together. You're strong.I think you said something in Daniel reminded you of yourself, that's how that question came about. So there's no deep-soul-ness to your feelings and thoughts toward Daniel? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:23 PM
Ah, he's wonderful. Have I mentioned that?  IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:23 PM
Yes, i can't even imagine what Prison would have been like. But look at him now. He's so... alive. He's brimming with life. He's truly blessed.IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:25 PM
quote: I'm sure you know that Viggo is a published poet. That would appeal to the romantic in you. I'm deeply romantic too - but I don't think it would show the way yours does. Maybe it just translate differently in our individual expressions.
Yeah. I knew that. I've read some of his poems- he's very sentimental. That touches me. quote: I'm deeply romantic too - but I don't think it would show the way yours does. Maybe it just translate differently in our individual expressions.
Explain this. How does mine show vs the way yours shows?
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:28 PM
No, no hard feelings for Daniel. From memory we have good synastry. We'd probably get on okay. He's very very manly. The bit in Casino Royale where he's with the other guy's wife after winning the car and they're on the floor - and she's on him and he flips her over and he's on her - that kind of made me go "whoa!". I don't usually do that - there was something very sexy in that. Not that itself - but specifically the way he did it - the way his body was on her - the very specific body language and also in particular his legs. Then there was that stellar scene in the shower - which just got me somewhere deep inside. Just the tenderness in which he sat next to her. That was so beyond lovely. Wow! One night, I watched it for hours. Just that one scene - over and over again.IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:28 PM
quote: I think you see The English Patient and think he walked through the desert, yada, yada, yada, how romantic. And I look at Maggie and Sam in Addicted to Love sitting on a couch together sharing a meal and their heads together and laughing while they're stalking their exes from the building across and I think that's romantic. LOL! Not the stalking part. The sitting there laughing together.
I think i see The English Patient and think of the scene when they're lying in bed together and he claims her shoulder blade when i think of romance. But yes, i agree. We see romance in different things, you and i. Is that personality, or age, or...? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:29 PM
Whenever you say Daniel, I have to remind myself we're talking about Daniel Craig and not your beloved Daniel Day-Lewis.  IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:30 PM
quote: The bit in Casino Royale where he's with the other guy's wife after winning the car and they're on the floor - and she's on him and he flips her over and he's on her - that kind of made me go "whoa!". I don't usually do that - there was something very sexy in that. Not that itself - but specifically the way he did it - the way his body was on her - the very specific body language and also in particular his legs. Then there was that stellar scene in the shower - which just got me somewhere deep inside. Just the tenderness in which he sat next to her. That was so beyond lovely. Wow! One night, I watched it for hours. Just that one scene - over and over again.
Awww!!!! I'm laughing at the naughtiness and sweetness of that!! IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:36 PM
quote: Whenever you say Daniel, I have to remind myself we're talking about Daniel Craig and not your beloved Daniel Day-Lewis.
You would know if we were talking about Daniel Day-Lewis because angels would fly out of my mouth.  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:40 PM
quote: But yes, i agree. We see romance in different things, you and i. Is that personality, or age, or...?
I think it's personality. In terms of lovingness - that scene in Casino Royale in the shower - that is THE most loving onscreen moment I have ever seen. That takes it! I like romance to be quirky. So, I'm going to be drawn to those rom-coms that way. That bit in Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts's character says to Richard Gere's character something about in case I forget to tell you later, I had a really great time tonight - before they go out. Oh man! I love that! That is EXACTLY something I would say. I guess, for me, in movies and characters, I'm looking for myself, and in that, my ideal man or even ideal romantic predicament. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:41 PM
What's your idea of a perfect date?IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:47 PM
quote: Explain this. How does mine show vs the way yours shows?
I think in your ideals themselves. The way you want to inhabit someone and have them residing in you. That's very traditionally romantic. when you look at all those movies - The English Patient, etc - they want to own each other - there is that possessiveness. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:49 PM
See, if I say, I'm happy to hold hands with my beloved and walk through the city talking and laughing, just in our own private mental and emotional world, and if you say that you and your lover meet and you become infatuated with each other and soul-search each other and are inseparable - your version is much more romantic than mine, I think, in terms of broader romantic perception. Mine may be seen as sweet - yours as terribly romantic.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:50 PM
You find penetrating each other on every level romantic, I think. Where I find laughing together very romantic. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:52 PM
quote: You would know if we were talking about Daniel Day-Lewis because angels would fly out of my mouth.
ROFL - that made me LOL! And, of course, DDL would be playing the role of all the angels. And perfectly too.  IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:55 PM
quote: What's your idea of a perfect date?
I don't really imagine dates. I don't think i've ever been on a date. I imagine more something along the lines of getting to know each other, falling in love while being separate, and then one thing leads to another and you're just together. Period. End of story. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:57 PM
So how do you get to know each other if you don't spend time together? Is it like this: you meet and it's instant - and absolutely mutual - and then the rest is just part of the course of unveiling mentally what you know to be true emotionally and spiritually - and even in that unveiling - it's now what you know about yourself that you reveal - but each other - so in effect you hold the keys to the soul of each other and then offer than to one another. You see him and he sees you and you then go about spending your lives showing those parts of each other to each other?IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1961 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:58 PM
quote: I think in your ideals themselves. The way you want to inhabit someone and have them residing in you. That's very traditionally romantic. when you look at all those movies - The English Patient, etc - they want to own each other - there is that possessiveness.
Agreed. But i don't want those things because they're viewed as traditionally romantic though.. quote: See, if I say, I'm happy to hold hands with my beloved and walk through the city talking and laughing, just in our own private mental and emotional world, and if you say that you and your lover meet and you become infatuated with each other and soul-search each other and are inseparable - your version is much more romantic than mine, I think, in terms of broader romantic perception. Mine may be seen as sweet - yours as terribly romantic.
Agreed. But just because mine is SEEN that way doesn't make mine more romantic than yours. I suppose mine is just predictable, whereas yours isn't? quote: You find penetrating each other on every level romantic, I think. Where I find laughing together very romantic.
I couldn't have said it better myself. We find affection and love in different things. I find affection in possession. You find affection in inside jokes.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6355 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted November 23, 2008 09:58 PM
Question - if you meet - then why can't you be together from the on-set - why do you have to be separated and then come together later?IP: Logged |