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posted November 17, 2010 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, conspiracy theories, especially populist ones (like JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING) lead to the Holocaust. And most conspiracy theories have a basis in classism, racism and sexism. That is why they are offensive to me.

They are also offensive to my intellect lol.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish the Jews controlled everything cuz I would be in good shape

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posted November 17, 2010 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And actually The Federal Reserve owns most of US debt:

Yes, the Fed gave America it's debt by charging a $1 in interest for every $1 loaned!


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posted November 17, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls, Yes, they are offensive because there are those who are fanatical enough to begin holocausts because of them.
But to me it's like the CD with the parental advisory lyrics...the one parents are blaming for their kid killing himself, overlooking the the possibility that the kid was troubled and that they were negelectful.

If the $hit hits the fan and something like a holocaust happens again and not just to Jews btw but to any group of people , then it will not be because of a few quirky ideas here and there, it will be because of people blindly believing them as gospel and not bothering to challenge their own perspectives.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ikr Ami, if Jews controlled everything, my life would be easy as pie.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM, I definitely agree, a healthy amount of skepticism (about EVERYTHING) is needed. But I have yet to find anything about the Queen owning America (by googling and by continually asking Lara about it) so I'm not going to take that statement at face value.

Is the Queen the Queen of the Federal Reserve, too?

Anyway, I'm not an economist but I am a political science student and the debt has accumulated thanks to SUPPOSEDLY "fiscally conservative" Republicans who are actually corporate stooges (not a conspiracy but a fact). They continually cut taxes on the wealthy and large coporations while throwing the poor under the bus and guess what? The poor doesn't have any effing MONEY so the debt keeps rising. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of money we spend on "defense" (should change the Department of Defense back to the Department of War which is what it was originally called). And do you know WHY Republicans continually get elected? Because of easily lead people who believe in conspiracy theories and think that Obama is the antichrist or a reptillian or whatever. It's so exhausting.

Not that Democrats haven't been freaking helping either. They need to grow a god damn backbone (but it's too late).

/rant. Sorry guys.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I would be extremely upset to have my security and life uprooted over an elitist group that has its own special interests at heart - and no concern for my own personal liberties and rights.

I would not want to live in a society that caters to an aristocrasy. I think most Americans would agree.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish we'd get off the jewish subject it's making me really uncomfortable. I don't like the religious stuff.

Maybe i'll just come back when it stops coming up. religious talk makes my 9th house Lilith go bat$hit lol

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posted November 17, 2010 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the truth was the only thing that hurt. So, if something is false, why get worked up over it.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Not that Democrats haven't been freaking helping either. They need to grow a god damn backbone."

lawl. Too true

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posted November 17, 2010 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You and me ,Girlfriend, Amwols, Lets get our estate and party

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posted November 17, 2010 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nine, tell that to the Jews who died because of the Protocols of Zion.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would not want to live in a society that caters to an aristocrasy. I think most Americans would agree.

We live in an increasingly corporatist state. The richest 1% owns 24% of our country's wealth. We may as well live in an aristocracy.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not about catering to an aristocracy! Geez, you know if you don't apply a bit of lateral intellect and common sense to a conversation it makes it very hard to be understood at all! Defending yourself because you take it personally even though l am not pointing any finger at you - is not having a conversation, is it?

Let me say it this way:

UK rules America
China owns America
Fed Reserve bankrupts America
NONE of the above are ARISTOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!

You see the mistake America (as a country not a people) has made is to think she is the smartest and everyone else is stupid. Huge mistake because England has already built and lost an Empire so she is already more knowledgeable and experienced in both sides of that coin. America has no idea what it is like to lose a game - and when she falls, it will be hard because she isn't watching nor spotting the signs. The rest of the world, all of whom have fallen and risen again has, but she hasn't.


The royal family have nothing to do with America. Only the Queen has! She is a puppeteer and two of her puppets are Prime Minister whatshisface and President whoeverheis.

The world is one big play and we are simply the audience who only SEES what the director and producer of the play wish to show us.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The UK does not own America. Neither does the Queen. I'm gonna need see some citations.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL @ lilith going batsh1t!!
My lilith sympathises being cj my MC and mars

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posted November 17, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, mine's pretty ugly, she squares my Pluto and opposes my Saturn....I start to froth when religion comes up lol

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posted November 17, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk if I should identify more with Priapus since that's the antililith and it's conjunct my Sun, rather than opposing it.

And I'm talking about Jews as a people not a religion. "Jewishness" is passed down mother to child. Sure, you can convert, but the children of a converter aren't automatically Jewish. Which is why I'm not Jewish. My Jewish blood is from my father via his father.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm lol
mine trines pluto and uranus and semi sex-tiles saturn!! Religion is the one subject that makes my eyes crossover and my head spin simply because l don't see the point of religion and so i'd rather not argue about it - religion is impossible to discuss - it's either war or peace.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I would not want to live in a society that caters to an aristocrasy. I think most Americans would agree."

Americans are like Romans in the sense of pride - Romans gladly accepted having an emperor regardless of how much of a tyrant he was, but having a king would have never worked.
It's just not the way the US was made, so of course they wouldn't want an aristrocracy. What works for one country won't work for another.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We live in an increasingly corporatist state. The richest 1% owns 24% of our country's wealth. We may as well live in an aristocracy."

I hear ya, Amowls. And, I'm not too happy about that, either :P

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posted November 17, 2010 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're not really talking about religion though. Talking about religion would be discussing the validity of believing in one God versus another (or believing in Astrology... we talk about religion all the time here REALLY). We are talking about the systematic discrimination of a people based on a conspiracy theory.

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Well, I would be extremely upset to have my security and life uprooted over an elitist group that has its own special interests at heart - and no concern for my own personal liberties and rights.
I would not want to live in a society that caters to an aristocrasy. I think most Americans would agree.

no offense, but this is a very naive statement. do you think the american ruling class is any different than the british? that they have your best interests at heart? well maybe some of them do, but if you have read american history with any comprehension, certain families have been running it by pulling purse-strings for about as long as it has been here. ever heard of the rockefellers, harrimans, morgans? there are even more you NEVER heard of...they may not be aristocracy but funnily you will find them in the legislature, banking halls of power, military, cultural foundations...everywhere power sits, these and there relatives will be found. and LET'S NOT FORGET THE BUSHES. they are pretty obscure and perhaps not the richest, but they have been pulling politician's strings for generations too.

and almost every single american president since day one has been RELATED BY BLOOD to the THRONE OF ENGLAND!! suck on that a minute! you will find the evidence in BURKE'S PEERAGE. and don't think obama's brown face automatically excludes him either!

as the child of someone raised by orthodox jews from generations of jews allow me to repeat my father's definition of jewish as "A RELIGION NOT A RACE". the fact that jews tend to marry jews does not mean they are determined by bloodlines. never has and never will. MY jewish grandparents had hardly a drop of SEMITIC blood in them, though long ago some ancestors were spanish jews (left during the inquisitioin) they were almost purely eastern european by BLOOD.

as to we "americans" owning america, that is also debatable. ask any native american, hispanic or full blood; does the fact that we came here and wiped them out, pushed them out and to much lesser degree, interbred with them, make us the rightful owners?

as an american i agree with the natives who refused to assign ownership of ANY land whatsoever...we are renting. just as many english "homeowners" actually have long leases on properties owned by the Crown.

but i also have to clarify that it is not THE JEWS but SOME jews who hold the world's pursestrings. some are named rothschild, some are not, but certainly most jewish people have nothing to do with what goes on behind the bankers' doors.

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posted November 17, 2010 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls, what the heck is Priapus ??? The anti-Lilith? I've never heard of that!

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posted November 17, 2010 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, whatever Katatonic. I know your special interest group: Lara. Hahaha.

I have read American History with comprehension, so the dig at my intellect didn't go unnoticed there.

The families you mentioned I am aware of, so your long post didn't enlighten me much.

Thanks for the effort.

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