posted November 16, 2010 01:51 PM            

as a German I feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable discussing this.
The guilt, which has its root in exactly that line of thinking (and it is still a reality, I agree with you), is just too deeply engraved into my nationīs soul.
Or well, not in all people, apparently, but I`ve been always very aware of it.

Just an explanation as to why I feel uncomfortable with this subject.

I also think that there are differences in different royal lines. The English seems to be a very "traditional" one in that regard; the Swedish seems to be a lot more "open" (though of course, there STILL is that thinking, too - it is just part of the upbringing I guess).

Honestly, when I saw the pictures and read about their engagement, and that thought never crossed my mind before, but it just flashed through my mind:

"the illuminati need to restore the balance, winning ground."

I donīt know where this came from,a nd let`s hope I am just being paranoid and awfully wrong.

Cause of cousre I wish everyone to find true love and happiness.

But that might have been the reason I put the occult asteroids in there.

It seems like a perfect example for what Redstar started in the Venus-Kaali and bloodline discussion.

Just look:

her Kaali on 20 Aries opposes SAturn on 21 Libra (funnily this coincides with my Chiron-DNA-opposition. no, we donīt have anything to do with each other, but I always take notes of these 20-21 degree of cardinal signs; just compare this to IQ`s findings on a mundane level!)

His Karma and Lilith conjunct her Kaali and oppose her Saturn. Oh my...

Her Hekate conjunct Osiris. his Hekate conjunct osiris. *sighs*

her Karma conjunct Venus and Lilith trine Aura and quinkunx DNA (see? Another one with Venus-DNA-aspect!)
His Moon conjuncts her DNA, actually her DNA is framed by his NN and Moon, and this triggers her natal Karma/Venus/Lilith/DNA-connection.
Part of it of course is also their Mars-Mars-conjunction.

He`s got a VAlentine-Horus-conjunction, how odd.

He`s got Kaali on a critical degree on his DESC, sextile Regulus, yes (though I think we only count conjunctions to fixed stars.) But it is so strong: Kaali conjunct Moon conjunct DESC all surrounding the Aries point!
Opposing Juno, squaring Aura.

She doesn`t aspect these degrees, which I find to be very weird.

Her Chiron conjuncts his Valentine and Horus though and opposes her Siva.

I need to stop, I am going to get a headache.

posted November 16, 2010 02:11 PM            

thanks.
It was very important for my mum to bring us up having the awareness and a human conscience.
I`ve been growing up with these documentaries, stories (past life memories) from my earliest childhood on.

As a matter of fact, when I was little, I would let myself fall down to the ground and cover my ears, when I was just hearing a plane approach (and I heard them minutes before anyone else, including the dogs. lol), panicking they might drop a bomb.
And I have been growing up with the smell of burnt flesh in my nose. This is a smell you never get out of your system.
Though of course I never have really smelled it, but the impression of these reports was just so strong.

posted November 16, 2010 02:23 PM            

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Same as animals in the wild do not support nor aid the weakest link. They have to continue the strength of their DNA through reproducing with the strongest gene pool.

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posted November 16, 2010 02:25 PM            

I think it's a good match. I don't believe a young couple stays together for 8.5 years without the benefit of marriage if they don't see something in each other.

I watched their press conference. Observed their body language. How they looked at each other. The love is there. My goodness! Such cynicism here! Their auras are fairly glowing with love and RELIEF at finally reaching this stage of their lives, of finally being OUTED as truly one. They have been engaged for almost a month!

Do I think there was some social pressure? Absolutely. There is millienia of tradition and bloodlines to be taken into consideration. But is it being forced? Is there some grand conspiracy in the works? I don't think so. William is not his father. He will not make the same mistake as Charles. Charles had a choice between love and settling and did not make the correct choice the first time. He had to correct his mistake many years down the road after a lot of hearts were broken and lives were shattered. William learned from the mistakes of his parents and has taken his time.

I think they are two 28 year-olds who have been dating for 8.5 years who are ready to get married and whose families are telling them to hurry up already before they turn 30 and that 2012 is a busy year so it's now or never.

I think they are a good match. Kate/Catherine is a fine girl. She has not embarassed William and has held her own under immense pressure for close to a decade. 2011 is not 1811. She and I are the same age and in a similar place in life.

William has seen a lot in his life. I choose to view the endowment of Diana's ring as a moment of sentiment and not a curse. One will never learn from the mistakes of the past if the past is ignored. I think they are a good couple. The Venus Rx is inadvisable, but what's done is done.

They both seem very level-headed and very unlike the selfish and narcissistic generation that came before them. Kate is a steady Capricorn girl, William a sweet Cancer...they will do well together.

posted November 16, 2010 02:40 PM            

I cry when I think about it --the Gentiles who risked their lives.
Perhaps, you would have been one of those ,DD

posted November 16, 2010 02:46 PM            

And I can say that when I was younger, that faith was the only thing that kept me sane and happy.

posted November 16, 2010 02:49 PM            

Starr of Venus,

I think there *could* be a dilemma (though I of course do not have inside information, so whatever I write, is just blind guessing here. lol) between their love (and as of now I believe they love each other) and other motives of other people in the background.

But as I said I don`t KNOW If that actually is taking place.

Oh and btw something tells me that William has always been the intended crownprince. Prince Charles will never be king. (just a feeling there - completely subjective of course).

posted November 16, 2010 04:13 PM              

Plus Princess Mary from Australia went into royalty and didn't have any problems. She seems to fit in just fine and looks very happy. They seem a good match even thought Thetis synastry doesn't look that crash hot.

I think marriage should be and IS about love not marrying for the sake of reproduction but of course as long as there are no serious genetic diseases.

posted November 16, 2010 04:19 PM            

William is being told to marry now because last time l checked the Queen was about 84 yrs old !!
If she pops her clogs without a future King with a wife then.......... !

This is all planned.. it has been and it always will be.

No negative Starr just observing the Royal Family trying to appeal more to the public and failing miserably by diluting their genetics.
In truth, Ernst Hanover should be King of England now so none of the above really matter anyway, does it?

posted November 16, 2010 04:24 PM            

"What God has joined together let no man put asunder"

therefore, am l to believe now that your 'thread on cheating' is just an attention seeking exercise?

posted November 16, 2010 04:50 PM            

It's unfortunate to see discrimination alive and thriving in the 21st century. But, tis the way of the world...

posted November 16, 2010 04:57 PM              

26th jan 2011 .. saturn goes retro at 17 deg libra
13th june 2011 .. saturn goes direct again at 10 deg libra
6th feb 2012 retro again at 29 deg libra ..
25th june 2012 direct at 22 deg libra ..

saturn conjunct natal saturn .. for kate
october 2011 ..
then in june 2012 it will be within 1 deg of her natal saturn when it turns direct again ..

posted November 16, 2010 04:59 PM            

BTW my grandfather was Jewish before you start ranting at me!