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Benedict Moon*
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posted November 17, 2010 02:50 PM
  
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Proud to be an American... AND... further correction, if ANYONE OWNS America - it's China. :P
LOLOLOLOL...I agree that that would be more likely. 
Amowls and Happy Dragon. 
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Lara
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posted November 17, 2010 02:56 PM
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Proud to be an American... AND... further correction, if ANYONE OWNS America - it's China. :P
haha yeah well that's hilarious cos i'm not talking FINANCIALLY! China does rule America financially as you will soon see in full throttle. UK owns her as in she has America on a short leash  IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted November 17, 2010 03:01 PM
Yes and how does the UK (much less the SYMBOLIC Queen) own America exactly? Where is this evidence? IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 03:02 PM
Whatever, Lara. The Brits don't own America. Americans own America. We are empowered by ourselves, and no contract, oath, weaponry can take away our individual spirits.Try as you want to emasculate our country. Fact is, we don't need inner circles, bloodlines, royals, and others to validate our naturally owned and exercised independence. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted November 17, 2010 03:04 PM
PlutoSquared, I think it's a bit far reaching to say that we "Americans" have "natural" ownership of America... more like because of the privileged circumstances of imperialism that "we" own America. And also the incompetence of King George as well.But yeah, you're right in spirit. Our President (be it Clinton, Bush or Obama) does not take orders from the Queen of England lol. Not even the British Prime Minister takes orders from the Queen. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 03:06 PM
Amowls,I wasn't making a historical argument, or arguing "natural" or "original" circumstances. The present fact, and since our independence, Americans within our country, who pay taxes and own business hold the true keys to ownership - regardless of the theories and feelings and egos surrounding the issues of "ownership". IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted November 17, 2010 03:12 PM
With as many problems as I've had with the government, this is something I find incredibly insulting...especially without sufficient EVIDENCE to back up the idea that we answer to someone who is no more than a cultural figurehead in her own country. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 17, 2010 03:17 PM
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The queen rules America and that is that, take it or leave it!
Don't know about the Queen, but the Bank of England has significant leverage here. I was in Diana's camp during the WOWs. The more I learn about personalities & numbers, however, the easier it is to hear what Charles's side is/was saying. She challenged him on every thing until he stopped caring. Diana was born on the 1st of the month, and this number true to it's position must lead, must win, must come first. If these people born on the 1st, 10th, 19th aren't running things you will have your hands full. This is a pugnacious and combative number/personality. Some have argued she wasn't suited to play the #2 position. But this is what she signed up for. And Charles a Scorpio w/ Leo rising certainly wasn't gonna be led around by the nose.
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...when I explained that I felt uncomfortable discussing "groupings of genetic codes", as this is what has led to the holocaust in my country, that thinking that one human group is better than the other, based on what was perceived to be typical for both groups (which brought the genetics into it).
Ah, and there I thought the 2nd war was a war of retribution against enemies who couldn't/didn't defeat them in a fair fight. And against those who took advantage of a people in their moment of weakness. Yes the genetic superiority argument was used, but primarily to rouse the spirits of a demoralized and oppressed people. Like much in war, it was taken out of context and spun by propaganda ministries. IP: Logged |
starkiss1
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posted November 17, 2010 03:24 PM
A fascinating fact
'A dark and deliciously murky secret hovers over the continuing relationship between Prince William and his girlfriend Kate Middleton – a skeleton so large that even a vast royal closet would struggle to contain it.
For the Mail can reveal that William and Kate are distant cousins. Not only that, the common ancestor who links the two lovers is a murderous despot whose bloody deeds have been deliberately forgotten by history. Until now. The man who links William and Kate as kith and kin is Sir Thomas Leighton, an Elizabethan soldier, diplomat and, for 40 years, the cut-throat Governor of Guernsey. He is William’s 12th generation great-grandparent, and Kate’s 11th, making them 12th cousins, once removed.' More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...or-tyrant.html
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DD
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posted November 17, 2010 03:24 PM
Yes, Nine, exactly.
But I am confused as where is the difference to what I said?  maybe the use of the word "thinking"? Well, I actually meant both, those who really were thinking that rubbish (and they did exist) as well as those who used this thinking for their propaganda. Besides I wasn`t talking about the 2nd world war, but about the Holocaust. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted November 17, 2010 03:24 PM
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Not even the British Prime Minister takes orders from the Queen.
I sincerely hope this comment isn't serious and if it is then l simply had no idea that America was so blind to how the UK operates. If you think our Queen is simply an old woman whom drinks earl grey tea and walks her corgis then you are in for one big shock when the sh1t hits the fan and you realise that your President is the puppet in a play far greater than America and her people! The world play. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
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posted November 17, 2010 03:27 PM
Once again: Evidence? Proof? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 17, 2010 03:37 PM
You must have been a detective in a past live Benedict. You can borrow my Crown Vic ------------------
Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted November 17, 2010 03:42 PM
I think Kate has a Sagittarius ascendant...and I also think it's ridiculous to be arguing over who owns what country...IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted November 17, 2010 03:54 PM
Absolutely Nine! You are right about the Bank of England and the Bank of England is answerable to the Queen!
Both Govt's are too and for sure China would own America and does but the Bank of England decides Americas financial fate as it were.
Scary stuff. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted November 17, 2010 03:57 PM
Sag fits, Quinnie
Good call  ------------------
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PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 04:18 PM
Well, I'd like to take this opportunity to CROWN MYSELF QUEEN OF AMERICA!LOL IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted November 17, 2010 04:28 PM
The US is owned, look at that debt. How many countries are propping up the US? A lot, least of which is not the UK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/mar/09/china-federal-deficit-us-ame rica-debt#data China, Japan, and the UK top the list  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted November 17, 2010 04:32 PM
I think it's sad that people on this board are putting down another country , an entire culture, because they don't 'like' the concept of royalty. It's just history and yet it's sad to see how people are attacking it. It's tradition. People in the UK can be very sentimental about their royalty at heart...it's part of the structure. You can mock it all you like, but really, it's pretty sad to mock something just because you don't 'approve' of it or like it or understand it.I see people get all moved to tears in the US when they see their flag and get all choked up. I don't get it - I don't do nationalism or patriotism - but I won't put it DOWN either. It's a matter of respect. There are lots and lots of notions and practices out there which are 'outdated' but just because they do not appeal to certain sensibilities anymore doesnt mean they are worthless or bad or whatever. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted November 17, 2010 04:35 PM
Who owns the Uk's debt? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8530150.stm All countries are indebted to the Illuminati Bank of England so why do we care who owns what? What's the cost of humanity? We are all owned and indebted to the same people and that's why we are slaves to the system. So why are we arguing over who owns what country, who is a commoner and what not? We are all human beings who deserve equal respect. That is why I find this thread ridiculous on so many levels. I have had enough of Lindaland and people's egos. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted November 17, 2010 04:41 PM
I agree, Quinne. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted November 17, 2010 04:45 PM
I am not attacking any country's "traditional" whatevers, I am asking a very specific question to Lara about how The Queen of England "owns" the United States of America. While I am an American, and I find Lara's attitude towards Americans and America in general rather insulting, I actually only care about facts.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 04:45 PM
MVM,I would agree that making jokes of royalty was "unfair" it there wasn't anti-american sentiments here, as well. Conspiracy and Illuminati theories are very offensive to a lot of people. You'll probably see a great deal more of offense taken at the idea that America is owned by the Queen if this site ever sees greater traffic than it does, right now. In fact, if this "theory" was true and brought to public light - in a provable way, you would see mass havoc and a lot of anger from all walks of life. I'm not going to "water down" my comments and ridicule over what is obviously behind this bloodline obsession: EGO. All is fair game. No one is more "fair" here than another side. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted November 17, 2010 04:45 PM
And American conspiracy theorists believe that all the countries in the world are indebted to the Illuminati Federal Reserve in America lol. Ask a Brit and an American which is more powerful, the Bank of England or the Fed and both will disagree. Why? Nationalism.US State and Local Governements own more of the Federal Governement's debt than the UK does so there is no actual validity in saying "The Queen owns America" even if you were talking about who owns it FINANCIALLY (which Lara said that's not what she's talking about). And actually The Federal Reserve owns most of US debt:
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1. Federal Reserve and Intragovernmental Holdings US debt holdings: $5.345 trillion That’s right, the biggest holder of US government debt is actually within the United States. The Federal Reserve system of banks and other US intragovernmental holdings account for a stunning $5.345 trillion in US Treasury debt. This is the most recent number available (June 2010), and marks an all-time high.
Which is more than China. http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Biggest_Holders_of_US_Government_Debt?slide=16
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MyVirgoMask
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posted November 17, 2010 04:55 PM
Fair enough, by no means do I believe in conspiracy theories but in the spirit of 'Who the hell really knows 100% what's going on with anything', I'm not going to rule anything out either. I think it's all very interesting, but not terribly offensive, and that may be because I am not in the least bit patriotic, and don't take 'Anti-American sentiment' personally. I never understand why people get so offended about this stuff, I'm sorry. IP: Logged |
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