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Lara
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posted November 17, 2010 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do agree with one thing,...Jews own Hollywood. =)

lol that did make me chuckle and don't forget NYC!
hmmm... Does that mean they own the East AND West coast?
(tongue firmly in cheek!)

just wondering... and Agent, l am aware that i'm blunt or abrasive but l have no air in my chart to float me onto a white fluffy cloud, so sorry for my straight up with no twist and no fluff, way of conversing


ps. Are you aware of the amount of foreign Aid America gives to Israel? It's one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget!
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

Senior Bush's father was also in cahoots with Hitler. He helped Hitler's rise to power... so he (and American Govt who invested in Nazi banks) played a big part in the massacre of 55 million lives. I'll give you a clue as to how BIG a part your ex Presidents father and Grandfather played!: google "Consolidated Silesian Steel Company".

The truth is ugly but it is the truth.

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Lara
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posted November 17, 2010 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She RULES AMERICA Amowls... not OWNS!

zzzzzzzzzzz


America doesn't sh1t without permission from the Queen. Thats not a result of ownership, but RULERship!
Please don't put words into my mouth that l didn't say grrrr

blah blah blah
woof woof woof

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2010 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be really nice if we could put the "Jews own Hollywood " to rest

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lechien
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posted November 17, 2010 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just read the very last bit and don't know why it's being discussed on a thread about William and Kate , but the "Jews own Hollywood" thing comes from the actual historical background that it was originally an empire built around Jews from Eastern Europe as a new business investment. it stems out of vaudeville tradition. all the big name studios from early times are 90% Jewish, and the whole industry was like a closely knit family of rivalry. so perhaps symbolically Jews may own Hollywood, but it's diverse and different now... been over 100 years...

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lechien
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posted November 17, 2010 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry Ami, i just saw your post after i posted that...

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raspberri
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posted November 17, 2010 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Jews only (run) things because they are blessed with money.

For the UK to run anything, if would have to have money. All I know, is that in the grand scheme of things, the Global North is a very fortunate place to be. Compared to the Global South countries, we all have nothing to cry or argue about. 500 of the worlds richest people, have more money than the rest of the WORLD combined. Some of these loaded people are from America, some not...

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,Lechien, it is not wrong to say true things. I am cool with that

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posted November 17, 2010 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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America doesn't sh1t without permission from the Queen. Thats not a result of ownership, but RULERship!
Please don't put words into my mouth that l didn't say grrrr

Oh whatever owns/rules (IQ, whom you did not disagree with, stated that the royal crown owns America) at the end of the day you are saying that the Queen tells President Obama what to do. HILARIOUS!

Again, what is your source? I just debunked your other statement (how the President's first stop is to meet the Queen) by a simple internet search. I'm sure if you have a theory, you can back it up, like I can with mine. Or is this going to turn into the Moon Landing argument where you just made untrue statements without any citations and I debunked each and every one by a simple internet search?

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posted November 17, 2010 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can accept that distribution of power and wealth is currently very poor in America but I'm still going to take the Queen's supposed authority over us with a large grain of salt for a number of reasons. The first one being that I still haven't been presented anything credible on the matter, and the second being that I have also sensed all along that this theory is ego-based. This is not the first time Lara has tried to assert Britain's 'superiority' over America.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is funny being Jewish cuz we are very blessed people.
Everywhere you look, Jewish people excel.
We have been given tremendous gifts.
However, we have had terrible sorrows ,as everyone knows.

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posted November 17, 2010 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is sorrow. But that's life.

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posted November 17, 2010 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jews do well because they treat themselves as a very tight knit community (which is what happens when you are persecuted). They encourage each other to marry within the faith and they also encourage education (HM. SOUNDS LIKE EVERY OTHER RICH GROUP OF PEOPLE). They also do each other favors. It's not some sort of crazy conspiracy as to why they're so wealthy. It's actually quite simple.

I've actually observed the same phenomena amongst the rich in Richmond. I work for a country club (which has a "platinum" rating, making it one of the best in the country, so it's elite) where the richest of Richmond are members. There are 7500 members and a vast majority are connected via family due to the fact that the people meet and mingle in the club and thus intermarry. They also help each other get jobs and trade stock tips, concentrating their wealth even more.

Same with Jews. Same with Fraternities. Same with Skull & Bones.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2010 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew about Bush's father .

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i agree completely. have been arguing for yonks with someone on this board who clings to his colloquial american outlook and divides the world into commies and cowboys, not much in between..."

Oh my Goodness. I hope that was not an indirect statement towards me? LOL

YEE-HAW?

Oh, my.

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posted November 17, 2010 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat,

#1. i did not call you naive. i said your statement was naive. and since you altered it to make more sense it seems you might actually agree. why not just say so?

Because I don't necessarily agree with illuminati and conspiracy theories. I reserve the right to not come to a conclusion, either way...

If I agreed with you, I WOULD SAY SO.

#2 i have been living thru those decades. i don't need to parrot anyone. you keep saying how wonderful and free we are and how unique our founding documents are, they are based on the british documents of same function. that doesn't mean anyone with power follows them - have you noticed strict adherence to the constitution in our halls of power? a contract is only as good as the intentions of those signing it...and those constrained by it too.

The last point was good, I'll give you that.

#3 i happen to agree with you that we all have inalienable rights as humans but not because the declaration of independence or constitution gave them to us. they are still there, but unless people realize we DO have an aristocracy right here in the USA, that we do NOT have the kind of government we are TRAINED to believe as kids, that freedom isn't worth much is it?

Yes. IF what you state is TRUE, then our freedom would not be worth much. However, currently, most Americans are not privy to the FACTS that you and your friends present here. I can not argue or draw conclusions based on theories that may or may not be true. For right now, my freedom is good.

#4 lara is not asserting british superiority but acknowledging differences and therefore when you take offense at her doing that, you betray insecurity. just observing.

I think that is a biased and horribly WRONG belief of yours, but let's agree to disagree.

there's no pro-british faction here, no conspiracy on the board, just people saying things you apparently find offensive. and i am finding repetitive. okay, yah?

Thanks again for your "unintentional" British condenscension. Please come visit the U.S... it may be a nice Vacation from the British Vipers that have convinced you they're not insulting you, when they really are!!!

Tah-tah

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posted November 17, 2010 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you are saying that there are many powerful Jewish individuals in Hollywood.

Steven Spielberg said there was a gay mafia in Hollywood conspiring to bring him down. That's the only cabal in Hollywood I'm aware of.

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posted November 17, 2010 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that poor Kate is breaking under the pressure...

For example, when asked about filling the roll of Diana, she mumbled a lot and didn't even seem to answer the question.

Then, Prince William came in to save her...

[I can only imagine how difficult it is for the British to deal with other uptight British people, especially the press - it seems like that would bring on severe anxiety]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EekLZeO3c&feature=related[/URL]


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posted November 17, 2010 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started this ASTROLOGY thread because I'm still learning.

Here was an opportunity for the learned astrologers to give us 'amateurs' some food for thought.

To those who I have learnt from, THANK YOU!

I am not one of the people here who are comfortable starting 100's of threads and asking just as many questions. I read a lot and ask a little.

I do not, and have never, joined in the off topic arguments happening in their threads. It's rude and they don't appreciate it.

It would've been nice if they gave me the respect I give them.

Soooo disappointed!


Lalalinda,

It seems this thread is no longer about astrology.
If you'd like to close it you're welcome to.
Your call.

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 17, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for the record, I think Kate's Ascendant is in: LIBRA

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posted November 17, 2010 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
British people aren't that uptight, actually. I grew up in both countries, and am closest to my British family than the American side. Most of them are a laugh and a half, love their booze, and are very good people.

I'm not really that offended, but I hate how these threads take turns like this.. I'm protective of people from both countries.

*edit. I can't watch the video, because my computer keeps restarting on me, and I have no idea what I'd choose based on her looks. Sorry.

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posted November 17, 2010 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, this thread did not turn out as bad as it could have, considering the subject matter.

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PS thanks for meeting me at least part of the way. just for your information, i am american, grew up here and came back here after 21 years in england. so i understand the english a bit better than you but i am not british and see no superiority on EITHER side. so get off YOUR high horse. you have made a lot of assumptions here that bear no relation to anyone's reality but your own.

and the person i was referring to is not on this page and not likely to be so, once AGAIN you are reading, very poorly, between the lines what is not there.


i was trying to explain your misapprehensions to you and if you feel condescended to maybe you shouldn't try so hard to put people in their "place"? then you wouldn't have to be looking out for attacks and condescension all the time.

it was an AMERICAN, i believe, mark twain who pointed out that the english and the americans THINK they speak the same language and that causes no end of misunderstandings. THAT was what i was trying to point out. there's no SUPERIOR or INFERIOR here, in fact we are all in the same boat and the whole WORLD is run by the same few families, with a few additions and subtractions, that have been running the world for a very long time. longer than america has even been a country.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 17, 2010 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we had REALLY sensitive matters and we kind of built bridges,if I am not mistaken
That makes me happy.
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and i gather from remarks from the jewish contingent that while it is NOT okay to generalize about anything nasty and say it is done by jews, it is OKAY to generalize and say jews are blessed people etc?

my experience - and half my family are jewish - is that jews like other groups are made of individuals. some blessed, some creepy, some greedy, some generous, some smart and educated, some just plain human drivel.

and i object just as much to "jewish congratulators" as to "jewish haters" because both are forms of bigotry.

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sorry evanski, i was thinking about moving the argument out of your thread but i am done now. didn't mean to derail anything but then tangents are always interesting to me.

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