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posted May 20, 2009 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I can not find the legend of adonis and Innanen any ideas where I can find them?

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posted May 21, 2009 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Adonis is found in two mythologies:

1. Roman / Greek
Adonis-Aphrodite

2. Sumerian
Here he appears as Adonis-Tammuz or Adonis-Dummuzi.

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posted May 21, 2009 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, DD

Also, I found a stronger link for the Jenny, Eros, cupido for Johnny. His Eros jenny, cupido are trine my SN.
Eros - SN (0)
Cupido (1)
Jenny (3)

Another thing I never thougt of before his venus and Mercury are trine my moon (2,3) wich is trine his SN(1). and his venus is conjunct my SN (4). and his moon trine my venus.(4)

In thought I can see why God used Johnny and George to help me, I was feeling like no one could love me and I was unworthy. But Here is are men who women simply adore and yet they GA GA over me. That makes me feel beautiful and worthy.

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posted May 21, 2009 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
DD,
I found why I am so attracted to George and didn't understand why.

His draco pluto at 2.52 aries
his draco NN at 0.33 Aries
his draco Lova at 5.48 aries
My Natal Jupiter 1.54 aries
My natal sun 5.13 aries

His natal node 3.16 virgo
His pluto at 5.34 virgo
My draco juno 2.19 virgo
My draco venus 3.52 virgo
My draco ASC 29.05 Leo

His natal mars 0.09 leo
his natal angel 0.51 leo
My draco sun 1.06 leo

His draco Juno 7.15 libra
My natal pluto 7.58 libra
Opp my natal sun 5.13 Aries

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posted May 21, 2009 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message

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posted May 21, 2009 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
It`s always in the Draco`s, isn`t it?


Very amazing connection, and I have found that if nothing happens in the Draco`s, you will NEVER really feel deeply connected to a person.

But if there are such strong Draco connection like in your case, you are kind of "glued at the roots of your being".

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posted May 22, 2009 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
DD, I was thinking about soul mate connections
and Tell me what you think.

spirit conjunct or trine the sun, moon, ascendant,decendant, jupiter, IC, venus?

any other you might add?

attraction
lust - conjunct or trine pluto, moon, sun, ascendant, Decendant, eros, cupido, lust,Venus?


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posted May 23, 2009 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I think Spirit might indicate that there is a spiritual connection, definitely, just as Aura.

Also, Lust-connections seem to be potent in the literal sense.


I had some thoughts, too.


Karma / fate:

Saturn
Nodes
Vertex

Karma
Destinn
Fortuna
Tyche
Moira

Intimacy / Romance:

Moon
Venus
IC

Psyche
VAlentine
Amor
Juno
Neptune

(the "soft", romantic and tender and adoring kind of attraction)


Physical / sexual /:

Sun
Mars
ASC

Eros
Lust
Cupido
Aphrodite
Pluto

(maybe we should exclude Sun and Moon though).


Most passion would probably exist, if you had a romantic and a sexual planet / asteroid together, like Eros-Valentine, Mars-Juno.


EDIT:
For the points:

For "fate" and "sexual"

conjunction and opposition: 3 points
square: 2 points
trine and quinkunx: 1 point


For "romance" or the soft ones:

conjunction and trine: 3 points
opposition: 2 points
square and quinkunx: 1 point


For exact aspects add 2 points.


Just some thoughts.

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posted May 23, 2009 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
BTW regarding IQ`s calculator, which is really superb, I probably would also include DSC and SN (as those are axis-points) and if I allow quinkunx and opposition, I would allow them for all connections.

I`m not sure about the IC though.
Even though it MUST play a role in soulmate relationships, this calculator is focused on romantic soulmates, and the IC doesn´t trigger romantic connections.


BTW I`ve been dreaming of R again last night. :sighs: Strange snippets of dreams, like in one it was in the middle of the night and on my right side there was a huge dune from sand and on the left side there was something like a dent in the sand.
And he came and asked me what I was doing there and I told him that I wanted to see if that dune would move and fill that hole in the ground with sand.
And he said that it would only happen if it was a wander dune. LOL

Later in the dream I kind of saw him from above.
and even later I saw a writing on the sky, and it was related to his and my horoscope. And it said: His Lust conjunct my Child.

Whatever that means, probably only that i have been doing too much astrology (and no his asteroid Lust is NOT conjunct my asteroid child).

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posted May 23, 2009 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
well, it means something!

Thank you for the info /points I think IQ did a very good job I just think there are a few things I might do diffrently. Like adding the vertex, Spirit, Aura ect...

I looked at the helio for Johnny he has my name exact on his geo POM (jenny Taylor)28 aries and vanadis (who I use for vanessa) the next degree over 29 aries. MY geo pom is 28 libra.

and he had lynn my middle name hitting my geo NN.

very interesting!


George has his venus on my geo NN
and jenny on his geo moon. as well as jenny exact opp his jupiter and saturn in the helio.

I have no Idea what that means, time to investigate!

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posted May 23, 2009 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, in the helio R has the helio NN of Kerstin exactly on his geo Moon and conjunct his geo Lust and opposing his geo Juno.

Plus in the helio there is also a Venus-Cupid- DW conjunction.

Well, it is pretty "lusty" synastry anyway. lol

His helio name in my helio chart is also exactly conjunct his geo name in his chart and exactly conjunct my geo Sun-Moon-mp, Antivertex and opposite Eros. lol

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posted May 23, 2009 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Hey DD,

I think we can add Nike to the list of Fated asteroids.

Tyche - the greek goddess of fortune and luck,
fortunate outcomes.

Nike - the greek goddess of victory, fortunate outcomes.

Moira - The greek work for fates, Moira indicates an area of life that is governed by fate or karma. may show negative karma or an area of life that feels fated.

Johnny and I have moira connections.
His moira sits on my Juno (fitting)
MY moira is conunct his vertex.

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posted May 23, 2009 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, to be honest I am neither convinced of Nike nor Tyche as fated objects.
They relate more to being fortunate in the sense of being "lucky" or having luck.

Moira definitely is important, very fated. Some kind of archetypical meaning of fate. Feels stronger than either Karma or Destinn. Feels fated.

Difference for me is that Karma relates to lessons and past life scenarios, destiny is some kind of giving you a direction and goal in life (a destination).

But Moira, fate, it comes from FATUM and it means that the Gods have spoken.
It feels more DEFINITE than the others.


In the synastry with musicman, the one I scored nearly 50 points with in the calculator without even knowing his exact ASC-degree:


My Moira opposes his Moon
My Moira squares his nodal axis
My Moira conjuncts his name in his chart


His Moira and his SN conjunct my Moon
His Moira / SN trine my Karma
His Moira / SN square my name in my chart
His MOira / SN squares my Moira, Siva, Lancelot and Eurydike


with Jude:
My Moira widely squares his Moira
My Moira trines his SN and sextiles his Jupiter, Destinn, NN and Shakespeare
My Moira squares his Isis


His Moira conjuncts my Draco Antivertex and opposes my Draco Eros and Draco Destinn
But all in all not so strong interacton

with R:

My Moira conjuncts his Siva and Dr Kaali
My Moira opposes his Karma and Lancelot exactly
My Moira squares his Venus, Jupiter, MC
My Moira squares his Pluto (


Actually there is a Grand Cross of

My Moira, Siva, Lancelot, his Siva
his Karma, Lancelot
His Pluto
his Venus, Jupiter, MC and my Moon


His Moira conjuncts my Chiron (and Draco Sun)
His Moira squares my Saturn, Vertex and Eros
His MOira opposes my DNA
his Moira sextile my Karma

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posted May 24, 2009 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with you,

johnny and I have his destinn conjunct my union wich is conjunct our DC/IC conjunction.
When his progressed union hit my destinn I felt it was extremely fated.

So both were conjunct DW at the time plus that moira on my venus and mine on his vertex it was extremely fated. and johnny's point of destiny is conjunct my Pluto, Even stronger.

I looked at the charts for Jesus and Mary and if I remember correctly they had destinn conjunct destinn and union conjunct union, I didn't look at moira but I bet it makes a strong statement.

Not sure about angel either - because when I had my encounter with the angel, my progressed angel was conjunct my NN.
and hitting something that had to do with communication, I can't remember but I think it was progressed mercury.

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posted May 24, 2009 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I also believe Iris to be important - it represents a promise from the gods,the messenger, rainbows - symbolizing God's promise, the eyes are the window to the soul.

Johnny and I have that Iris/Psyche and Iris/eros connection and I saw it in his eyes.

There was a couple who said they were soul mates (famous) she said she saw it in his eyes and her Iris was conjunct his neptune, I believe it was also hitting his Iris.

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posted May 24, 2009 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have found my basic set of planets / angles and asteroids to use for romantic synastry.

Well, I must add:
1. it is ONLY a basic set, meaning what I will be looking at first from now on
2. it is ONLY related to romantic synastry, meaning OTHER HALVES rather than sharing the same energy, brother and sister or family relations.

My basic set (just in case you are itnerested):

1. Main YANG / YIN bodies:

a) Yang:
ASC
Sun
Mars
Pluto
Eros

b) Yin:
DSC
Moon
Venus
Neptune
Psyche

2. FATED objects

Saturn
Nodes
Vertex

Karma
Destinn
Moira


3. LOVE asteroids: YANG and YIN

a) YANG
Juno
Lust
(Eros - already mentioned above)

b) YIN
Valentine
Amor
(Psyche - already mentione above)


My preferred orb will be:
3 degree for conjunction / opposition with the planets / angles
2 degree for everything else


I will only compare
Yin to Yang
And Fated to Yin AND Yang
Also Fated to Fated

After that first approach I will look for possible SPIRITUAL connections.
I differentiate between SPIRITUAL connections and ROMANTIC SOULMATES.
For me those spiritual connections are a GATEWAY, a BRIDGE or even a STARGATE to have actually spiritual contact (through dreams, meditation, messages, astral travel, etc) with an individual or soul (those do not have to be your soulmates though, just think of other entities who approach you uninvited!)


SPIRITUAL asteroids could be:
Spirit
Iris (DEFINITELY!!!!!) - maybe Iris helps people to gain more AWARENESS of their soulbond; you know you can score 100 points in the soulmate calculator, but what does it help you if you do not realize you are soulmates?
Angel
Aura
Psyche
Neptune

(maybe Somnium = Dream and Hypnos = Sleep, too)

Well, in the case of my synastry with R,

my Hypnos is opposing his Sun
his Somnium is exactly on his DSC and exactly conjunct my Neptune and NN.


My own Sommnium is opposing Psyche, and right now the Jupiter-Chiron-Neptune-conjunction falls on my Psyche, and I really have been having very interesting dreams lately.

Jude`s Iris opposes my Hypnos.
My Iris (and Adonis and Union) conjunct his Moon.
And his Somnium conjuncts my Amor, Mars and ASC.

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posted May 24, 2009 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
In Johnny`s and your case you have an Eros-Psyche-bond over IRIS, that probably helped you getting AWARE of it.


I think it would be very interesting to see if there are aspects of one spiritual or fated object to a soulmate pair like in your case.

For example:
Guy`s Aura is conjunct Girl`s Pluto
And Girl`s Aura is opposite Guy`s Proserpina.

There would be a Pluto-Proserpina-connection over Aura; makes them feel the other one embodies (Aura) that image or quality.

For example; The girl`s energy or aura would make guy (subconsciously) see her as a Proserpina character.
And his Aura would make her see him as a Plutonic character.
They would sort of "act out" the myth on their emotional reality, and thus there would be probably a strong attraction between them.

It hink it`s what IQ tried to explaing to us in his last paragraph of the soulmate calculator.

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posted May 24, 2009 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
like with me and Johnny?

MY aura conjunct our ASC/MC conjunction
And his aura conjunct our Mercury/Chiron conjunction.

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posted May 24, 2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
No I was talking about your Iris/ Eros and Iris / Psyche aspect.

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posted May 24, 2009 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
MY aura is opp his psyche and his eros square my aura.

like that?

his aura quincunx my Eros
and my aura opp his psyche

wich one? or both?

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posted May 24, 2009 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Given they are under 3 degree, both.

you mean you have Eros-Psyche tied to each other TWO WAYS?

Through Iris AND Aura (the Aura-one being some kind of DW=?????



Jeez, girl, that is WOW!

BTW the second one was what I meant.
If each person`s contributes one half of the soulmate pair.

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Gun man and l (yes, it seems it's not over!!) have:

My AURA trine my LARA (2) and APRHODITE (1)
My AURA conjunct exact his MERLIN/VALENTINE, trine his CHILD (1) and opposes his GIZA (1)
His AURA Conjunct his SN (3) and opposes his SUN exact.
His AURA conjunct my JUPITER (1) and opposes my YES (1)
Interestingly, AURA is each other's 7th house.

My IRIS trine his AC, opposes his PSYCHE and conjuncts exact my MC
His IRIS trine my LARA, opposes my NN (2) and conjuncts his IC exact

Will now read all of this thread before l comment as i've missed so much

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posted May 24, 2009 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I have not found any linked soulmate-pairings (through fated or spiritual objects) in the synastry with R, but in Jude`s and my synastry we have:


His Neptune conjunct my Mars
My Neptune conjunct his Venus

his Hypnos trine my Persephone
my Hypnos sextile his Pluto


And the maybe most breathtaking one:

his Spirit conjunct my Siva
my Spirit conjunct his Kaali


We also have a DW of Venus-Kaali (conjunction and opposition) and in the Davison and Composite we have Siva-Kaali square and opposition exact.

I think I do not go wrong in assuming there might be a slight Siva-Kaali-theme in our synastry.

EDIT:

Also:

his Moira trines my Osiris
my Moira squares his Isis

And in the synastry with R:

his Karma trines my Persephone
my Karma sextiles his Pluto

his Moira trines my Proserpina
my Moira squares his Pluto

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posted May 24, 2009 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
During the last days I have dreamed several times of Keanu Reeves, which surprised me A LOT.
I haven`t dreamed of him for about 15 years (except for that "explosion" dream after having seen "Lakehouse").


So I was just lazily glancing at his chart just now, and what do my tired eyes spot?

His Pluto is EXACTLY conjunct my Persephone. Same degree. 13 - 14 Virgo. ROFL


We would even pass the filter rule as my Juno is conjunct his DSC. Actually both my Jupiter AND Juno are conjunct his DSC and Jupiter is my chartruler. lol


EDIT:

OOPS, in the Draco chart his Sun conjuncts my Moon on my SN and tropical DSC, and my Sun exactly conjuncts his Moon.

And his Venus-Mars-conjunction falls onto my Venus.

Either I stop looking NOW or I will have to analyse this a bit more deeply.

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I know i shouldn't, but this is me and my ex FB who is texting the life out of my mobile!!

his AURA conjunct my PLUTO exact, trine my MARS/ISIS/UNION and opposes my DNA
my AURA conjnuct his MARS/OSIRIS and opposes his JUNO/EROS
his SPIRIT trine my DESTINN
my SPIRIT opposes his DESTINN

Some other pretty cool aspects: lol
My CHIRON conjunct his PROSERPINA/LUST
My SATURN/NN/MOON/VENUS conjunct his ISIS
My CUPID conjunct his CERES
My LUST conjunct his CUPID
My MERLIN/MAGION/SURNAME conjunct his PSYCHE/VENUS and opposes my AC
My JUNO/KARMA conjunct his ATLANTIS/LARA/DNA and oppose my SUN
My SUN conjunct his LOVEJOY
My AURA conjunct his MARS/OSIRIS
My LARA opposes his UNION
My LUST opposes his MOON
My EROS opposes his LUST/PROSERPINA
my PROSERPINA trine his PLUTO
my PSYCHE trine my ISIS/MARS/UNION and square his EROS
his PSYCHE/VENUS opposes my AC and square my SUN/KARMA/JUNO !!!!
his EROS square my LOVEJOY/PERSEPHONE/PSYCHE

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