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vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 20, 2009 09:09 PM
I can not find the legend of adonis and Innanen any ideas where I can find them? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 04:48 AM
Adonis is found in two mythologies:1. Roman / Greek Adonis-Aphrodite 2. Sumerian Here he appears as Adonis-Tammuz or Adonis-Dummuzi. IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 08:12 AM
Thank you, DD Also, I found a stronger link for the Jenny, Eros, cupido for Johnny. His Eros jenny, cupido are trine my SN. Eros - SN (0) Cupido (1) Jenny (3) Another thing I never thougt of before his venus and Mercury are trine my moon (2,3) wich is trine his SN(1). and his venus is conjunct my SN (4). and his moon trine my venus.(4) In thought I can see why God used Johnny and George to help me, I was feeling like no one could love me and I was unworthy. But Here is are men who women simply adore and yet they GA GA over me. That makes me feel beautiful and worthy. IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 11:56 AM
DD, I found why I am so attracted to George and didn't understand why. His draco pluto at 2.52 aries his draco NN at 0.33 Aries his draco Lova at 5.48 aries My Natal Jupiter 1.54 aries My natal sun 5.13 aries His natal node 3.16 virgo His pluto at 5.34 virgo My draco juno 2.19 virgo My draco venus 3.52 virgo My draco ASC 29.05 Leo His natal mars 0.09 leo his natal angel 0.51 leo My draco sun 1.06 leo His draco Juno 7.15 libra My natal pluto 7.58 libra Opp my natal sun 5.13 Aries IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 12:01 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 12:01 PM
It`s always in the Draco`s, isn`t it?  Very amazing connection, and I have found that if nothing happens in the Draco`s, you will NEVER really feel deeply connected to a person.
But if there are such strong Draco connection like in your case, you are kind of "glued at the roots of your being". IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2009 08:34 PM
DD, I was thinking about soul mate connections and Tell me what you think. spirit conjunct or trine the sun, moon, ascendant,decendant, jupiter, IC, venus? any other you might add? attraction lust - conjunct or trine pluto, moon, sun, ascendant, Decendant, eros, cupido, lust,Venus?
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 06:50 AM
Yes, I think Spirit might indicate that there is a spiritual connection, definitely, just as Aura.Also, Lust-connections seem to be potent in the literal sense. I had some thoughts, too.
Karma / fate:
Saturn Nodes Vertex Karma Destinn Fortuna Tyche Moira Intimacy / Romance: Moon Venus IC Psyche VAlentine Amor Juno Neptune (the "soft", romantic and tender and adoring kind of attraction) Physical / sexual /:
Sun Mars ASC Eros Lust Cupido Aphrodite Pluto (maybe we should exclude Sun and Moon though). Most passion would probably exist, if you had a romantic and a sexual planet / asteroid together, like Eros-Valentine, Mars-Juno.
EDIT: For the points:
For "fate" and "sexual" conjunction and opposition: 3 points square: 2 points trine and quinkunx: 1 point For "romance" or the soft ones:
conjunction and trine: 3 points opposition: 2 points square and quinkunx: 1 point For exact aspects add 2 points.
Just some thoughts.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 06:54 AM
BTW regarding IQ`s calculator, which is really superb, I probably would also include DSC and SN (as those are axis-points) and if I allow quinkunx and opposition, I would allow them for all connections.I`m not sure about the IC though. Even though it MUST play a role in soulmate relationships, this calculator is focused on romantic soulmates, and the IC doesn´t trigger romantic connections. BTW I`ve been dreaming of R again last night. :sighs: Strange snippets of dreams, like in one it was in the middle of the night and on my right side there was a huge dune from sand and on the left side there was something like a dent in the sand. And he came and asked me what I was doing there and I told him that I wanted to see if that dune would move and fill that hole in the ground with sand. And he said that it would only happen if it was a wander dune. LOL
Later in the dream I kind of saw him from above. and even later I saw a writing on the sky, and it was related to his and my horoscope. And it said: His Lust conjunct my Child. Whatever that means, probably only that i have been doing too much astrology (and no his asteroid Lust is NOT conjunct my asteroid child).  IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 07:56 AM
well, it means something! Thank you for the info /points I think IQ did a very good job I just think there are a few things I might do diffrently. Like adding the vertex, Spirit, Aura ect... I looked at the helio for Johnny he has my name exact on his geo POM (jenny Taylor)28 aries and vanadis (who I use for vanessa) the next degree over 29 aries. MY geo pom is 28 libra. and he had lynn my middle name hitting my geo NN. very interesting! George has his venus on my geo NN and jenny on his geo moon. as well as jenny exact opp his jupiter and saturn in the helio.
I have no Idea what that means, time to investigate! IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:51 AM
Well, in the helio R has the helio NN of Kerstin exactly on his geo Moon and conjunct his geo Lust and opposing his geo Juno. Plus in the helio there is also a Venus-Cupid- DW conjunction. Well, it is pretty "lusty" synastry anyway. lol His helio name in my helio chart is also exactly conjunct his geo name in his chart and exactly conjunct my geo Sun-Moon-mp, Antivertex and opposite Eros. lol IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 11:15 AM
Hey DD, I think we can add Nike to the list of Fated asteroids. Tyche - the greek goddess of fortune and luck, fortunate outcomes. Nike - the greek goddess of victory, fortunate outcomes. Moira - The greek work for fates, Moira indicates an area of life that is governed by fate or karma. may show negative karma or an area of life that feels fated. Johnny and I have moira connections. His moira sits on my Juno (fitting) MY moira is conunct his vertex. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 12:26 PM
Well, to be honest I am neither convinced of Nike nor Tyche as fated objects. They relate more to being fortunate in the sense of being "lucky" or having luck.Moira definitely is important, very fated. Some kind of archetypical meaning of fate. Feels stronger than either Karma or Destinn. Feels fated. Difference for me is that Karma relates to lessons and past life scenarios, destiny is some kind of giving you a direction and goal in life (a destination). But Moira, fate, it comes from FATUM and it means that the Gods have spoken. It feels more DEFINITE than the others. In the synastry with musicman, the one I scored nearly 50 points with in the calculator without even knowing his exact ASC-degree:
My Moira opposes his Moon My Moira squares his nodal axis My Moira conjuncts his name in his chart
His Moira and his SN conjunct my Moon His Moira / SN trine my Karma His Moira / SN square my name in my chart His MOira / SN squares my Moira, Siva, Lancelot and Eurydike
with Jude: My Moira widely squares his Moira My Moira trines his SN and sextiles his Jupiter, Destinn, NN and Shakespeare My Moira squares his Isis
His Moira conjuncts my Draco Antivertex and opposes my Draco Eros and Draco Destinn But all in all not so strong interacton
with R: My Moira conjuncts his Siva and Dr Kaali My Moira opposes his Karma and Lancelot exactly My Moira squares his Venus, Jupiter, MC My Moira squares his Pluto ( Actually there is a Grand Cross of
My Moira, Siva, Lancelot, his Siva his Karma, Lancelot His Pluto his Venus, Jupiter, MC and my Moon His Moira conjuncts my Chiron (and Draco Sun) His Moira squares my Saturn, Vertex and Eros His MOira opposes my DNA his Moira sextile my Karma
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vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 09:06 AM
I agree with you, johnny and I have his destinn conjunct my union wich is conjunct our DC/IC conjunction. When his progressed union hit my destinn I felt it was extremely fated. So both were conjunct DW at the time plus that moira on my venus and mine on his vertex it was extremely fated. and johnny's point of destiny is conjunct my Pluto, Even stronger. I looked at the charts for Jesus and Mary and if I remember correctly they had destinn conjunct destinn and union conjunct union, I didn't look at moira but I bet it makes a strong statement. Not sure about angel either - because when I had my encounter with the angel, my progressed angel was conjunct my NN. and hitting something that had to do with communication, I can't remember but I think it was progressed mercury. IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 09:18 AM
I also believe Iris to be important - it represents a promise from the gods,the messenger, rainbows - symbolizing God's promise, the eyes are the window to the soul. Johnny and I have that Iris/Psyche and Iris/eros connection and I saw it in his eyes. There was a couple who said they were soul mates (famous) she said she saw it in his eyes and her Iris was conjunct his neptune, I believe it was also hitting his Iris. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 09:57 AM
I have found my basic set of planets / angles and asteroids to use for romantic synastry.Well, I must add: 1. it is ONLY a basic set, meaning what I will be looking at first from now on 2. it is ONLY related to romantic synastry, meaning OTHER HALVES rather than sharing the same energy, brother and sister or family relations. My basic set (just in case you are itnerested): 1. Main YANG / YIN bodies: a) Yang: ASC Sun Mars Pluto Eros b) Yin: DSC Moon Venus Neptune Psyche 2. FATED objects Saturn Nodes Vertex Karma Destinn Moira 3. LOVE asteroids: YANG and YIN
a) YANG Juno Lust (Eros - already mentioned above) b) YIN Valentine Amor (Psyche - already mentione above) My preferred orb will be: 3 degree for conjunction / opposition with the planets / angles 2 degree for everything else
I will only compare Yin to Yang And Fated to Yin AND Yang Also Fated to Fated
After that first approach I will look for possible SPIRITUAL connections. I differentiate between SPIRITUAL connections and ROMANTIC SOULMATES. For me those spiritual connections are a GATEWAY, a BRIDGE or even a STARGATE to have actually spiritual contact (through dreams, meditation, messages, astral travel, etc) with an individual or soul (those do not have to be your soulmates though, just think of other entities who approach you uninvited!) SPIRITUAL asteroids could be: Spirit Iris (DEFINITELY!!!!!) - maybe Iris helps people to gain more AWARENESS of their soulbond; you know you can score 100 points in the soulmate calculator, but what does it help you if you do not realize you are soulmates? Angel Aura Psyche Neptune
(maybe Somnium = Dream and Hypnos = Sleep, too) Well, in the case of my synastry with R, my Hypnos is opposing his Sun his Somnium is exactly on his DSC and exactly conjunct my Neptune and NN. My own Sommnium is opposing Psyche, and right now the Jupiter-Chiron-Neptune-conjunction falls on my Psyche, and I really have been having very interesting dreams lately.
Jude`s Iris opposes my Hypnos. My Iris (and Adonis and Union) conjunct his Moon. And his Somnium conjuncts my Amor, Mars and ASC.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 10:01 AM
In Johnny`s and your case you have an Eros-Psyche-bond over IRIS, that probably helped you getting AWARE of it. I think it would be very interesting to see if there are aspects of one spiritual or fated object to a soulmate pair like in your case.
For example: Guy`s Aura is conjunct Girl`s Pluto And Girl`s Aura is opposite Guy`s Proserpina. There would be a Pluto-Proserpina-connection over Aura; makes them feel the other one embodies (Aura) that image or quality. For example; The girl`s energy or aura would make guy (subconsciously) see her as a Proserpina character. And his Aura would make her see him as a Plutonic character. They would sort of "act out" the myth on their emotional reality, and thus there would be probably a strong attraction between them. It hink it`s what IQ tried to explaing to us in his last paragraph of the soulmate calculator.  IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 12:08 PM
like with me and Johnny? MY aura conjunct our ASC/MC conjunction And his aura conjunct our Mercury/Chiron conjunction. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 12:12 PM
No I was talking about your Iris/ Eros and Iris / Psyche aspect.  IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 12:16 PM
MY aura is opp his psyche and his eros square my aura. like that? his aura quincunx my Eros and my aura opp his psyche wich one? or both? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 01:26 PM
Given they are under 3 degree, both.you mean you have Eros-Psyche tied to each other TWO WAYS?  Through Iris AND Aura (the Aura-one being some kind of DW=????? 
Jeez, girl, that is WOW!
BTW the second one was what I meant. If each person`s contributes one half of the soulmate pair.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 02:11 PM
Gun man and l (yes, it seems it's not over!!) have:My AURA trine my LARA (2) and APRHODITE (1) My AURA conjunct exact his MERLIN/VALENTINE, trine his CHILD (1) and opposes his GIZA (1) His AURA Conjunct his SN (3) and opposes his SUN exact. His AURA conjunct my JUPITER (1) and opposes my YES (1) Interestingly, AURA is each other's 7th house. My IRIS trine his AC, opposes his PSYCHE and conjuncts exact my MC His IRIS trine my LARA, opposes my NN (2) and conjuncts his IC exact Will now read all of this thread before l comment as i've missed so much  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 02:45 PM
I have not found any linked soulmate-pairings (through fated or spiritual objects) in the synastry with R, but in Jude`s and my synastry we have: His Neptune conjunct my Mars My Neptune conjunct his Venus
his Hypnos trine my Persephone my Hypnos sextile his Pluto And the maybe most breathtaking one:
his Spirit conjunct my Siva my Spirit conjunct his Kaali We also have a DW of Venus-Kaali (conjunction and opposition) and in the Davison and Composite we have Siva-Kaali square and opposition exact.
I think I do not go wrong in assuming there might be a slight Siva-Kaali-theme in our synastry.  EDIT: Also: his Moira trines my Osiris my Moira squares his Isis And in the synastry with R: his Karma trines my Persephone my Karma sextiles his Pluto his Moira trines my Proserpina my Moira squares his Pluto IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 03:04 PM
During the last days I have dreamed several times of Keanu Reeves, which surprised me A LOT. I haven`t dreamed of him for about 15 years (except for that "explosion" dream after having seen "Lakehouse"). So I was just lazily glancing at his chart just now, and what do my tired eyes spot?
His Pluto is EXACTLY conjunct my Persephone. Same degree. 13 - 14 Virgo. ROFL We would even pass the filter rule as my Juno is conjunct his DSC. Actually both my Jupiter AND Juno are conjunct his DSC and Jupiter is my chartruler. lol
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OOPS, in the Draco chart his Sun conjuncts my Moon on my SN and tropical DSC, and my Sun exactly conjuncts his Moon. And his Venus-Mars-conjunction falls onto my Venus.  Either I stop looking NOW or I will have to analyse this a bit more deeply.  IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 03:34 PM
I know i shouldn't, but this is me and my ex FB who is texting the life out of my mobile!!his AURA conjunct my PLUTO exact, trine my MARS/ISIS/UNION and opposes my DNA my AURA conjnuct his MARS/OSIRIS and opposes his JUNO/EROS his SPIRIT trine my DESTINN my SPIRIT opposes his DESTINN Some other pretty cool aspects: lol My CHIRON conjunct his PROSERPINA/LUST My SATURN/NN/MOON/VENUS conjunct his ISIS My CUPID conjunct his CERES My LUST conjunct his CUPID My MERLIN/MAGION/SURNAME conjunct his PSYCHE/VENUS and opposes my AC My JUNO/KARMA conjunct his ATLANTIS/LARA/DNA and oppose my SUN My SUN conjunct his LOVEJOY My AURA conjunct his MARS/OSIRIS My LARA opposes his UNION My LUST opposes his MOON My EROS opposes his LUST/PROSERPINA my PROSERPINA trine his PLUTO my PSYCHE trine my ISIS/MARS/UNION and square his EROS his PSYCHE/VENUS opposes my AC and square my SUN/KARMA/JUNO !!!! his EROS square my LOVEJOY/PERSEPHONE/PSYCHE IP: Logged |