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posted May 17, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I also found that Proserpina / Persephone was quite often tied in with my name in their charts. Interesting.

WEll, I still have to look at the connections with R`s 9th harmonic; I still feel t hose will be the "soul-significant" chart. Have to check the 2nd harmonic then.

I guess the 2nd harmonic will emphasise the challenging aspects (conjunction, square and Opposition).

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posted May 17, 2009 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
"His Nava Venus conjunct my Nava Dsc - venus is the ruler of my Rasi ASC

My nava jupiter conjunct his nava DSC - jupiter is the ruler of his Rasi ASC"

Definitely an important link.

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posted May 17, 2009 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
So, these are the aspects from the 9th harmonic with R

9th harmonic - 9th harmonic (his planets first)

100%
°Mercury conjunct NN
- this might be significant as Mercury is his natal ASC-ruler, and rules my DSC and in the 9th harmonic it rules my ASC

This is on the Sabian for:
A MAN ON A MAGIC CARPET HOVERS OVER A LARGE AREA OF LAND


° Karma conjunct IC (his natal Karma is on the same degree), so this conjunction happens on 14 - 15 Taurus
"Head Covered With A Rakish Silk Hat, Muffled Against The Cold, A Man Braves A Storm"
- seems our souls know each other from rather rough times


° Proserpina conjunct Proserpina

° ASC conjunct Eros
- well this one is self explanatory, I guess

90%:

° Sun opposite Persephone

° Moon conjunct ASC

° Mercury conjunct Neptune
- some telepathy is never wrong. lol

° Mars conjunct Pluto
- same as in the natal comparision, just in the natals it is even more exact; so I guess it definitely is a theme

° Neptune conjunct Valentine
- some spiritual love

80%

°Moon opposite Saturn
- am I the older one? or just the one who is more easily frustrated and depressed and giving up?

°Moon conjunct Kerstin
- seems not only I carry the right name (Kerstin on my ASC), but that he identifies me with it

° Saturn opposite Pluto
- hmm, seems to be a pretty fated, yet difficult connection; perhaps even fraught with animosity

° Neptune conjunct Moon
- some more compassionate spiritual love

° Pluto opposite Moon
- we do have this in the natals, too.
- I guess transformative is the right expression, maybe a bit obsessive

° Pluto opposite Valentine
- IQ once called that an obsessive posessive love (like Menelaos started a war to win back Helena)

° Kerstin opposite Proserpina
and in his natal Kerstin conjuncts Proserpina
so I guess from his point of view I AM Proserpina

We also have a loose conjunction of NN and NN (60%)

his natal - my 9th harmonic (so indicating on what levels I am attracted to him)


100%:

Uranus conjunct NN on 1-2 Cancer again
- so I guess he`s shaking me?

° SN conjunct Proserpina (and my natal Pluto) on 9-10 Libra
HAVING PASSE THROUGH NARROW RAPIDS A CANOE REACHES CALM WATERS
- again a "dangerous" Sabian!


° Psyche conjunct Valentine
- this one looks actually pretty sweet and beautiful


90%

° SN conjunct Jupiter
- I guess despite the dangers our souls apparently have been through, there was also some "lucky star"

80%

° Mars conjunct Jupiter
- I am enthusiastic and really like the way he expresses his masculine self?


70%

°Chiron conjunct Pluto
- hmm I am responsible for some wounds he is carrying around today?

° Amor conjunct Amor
- some sort of affection is resonating from his outward expression into my soul

His 9th harmonic - my natal (so how he would be attracted):

100%

° Venus conjunct Moon
- this is a repetition of the natal Venus-Moon-conjunction
- in some way the way I feel and especially how I express myself as a woman (Moon) triggers the image of his ideal woman inside him.
Or put different: He need`s it aquarian, and I AM aquarian. LOL

° Uranus conjunct Saturn on 16 - 17 Cancer
THE UNFOLDMENT OF MULTILEVEL POTENTIALITIES ISSUING FROM AN ORIGINAL GERM
- ´maybe this is completely nuts, but this reminds me of the creation of soulfamilies; you know you have an original germ, a soul, an ONE, and this splits into many parts of the same soul, multilevel potentialities.

*gulps* This is also the Sabian of Jude`s natal SN, which is exactly conjunct my Saturn

- he probably would feel depressed by me


° Chiron conjunct Persephone on 13 - 14 Virgo
AN ARISTOCRATIC FAMILY TREE


° Proserpina conjunct Pluto


° his name conjunct my Cupido on 19 - 20 Leo
ZUNI INDIANS PERFORM A RITUAL TO THE SUN

- again it is super-interesting, but hisn ame in his 9th harmonic is on the EXACT same degree (and almost minute) as the name Davida in my chart! It`s almost like I can`t keep the names R and Davida apart. They both occupy the Leo-Aquarius-axis.


90%:

° Moon opposite Mars
- another aspect that reappears in the natal synastry (but as a trine).


° Moon conjunct DSC

° Jupiter oppoiste Saturn
- and again I seem to be the one repressing and frustrating

° SN conjunct Sun
- I guess he knows me from somewhere. lol


80%:

° Karma conjunct Kerstin

° Eros conjunct Antivertex and opposite Eros

° Psyche opposite Juno

° Valentine conjunct Vertex and ERos

° Persephone conjunct Chiron (this is actually a DW)


70%:
° ASC conjunct Venus


Just playing around with the symbolism.

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posted May 17, 2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
DD, you were right

The harmonic 2nd (H2) is concerned with the individulas sense of identity in relation to the other. within his enviorment and his ability to form one - one relationships with others.

In the H2 the oppositions become conjunctions,
squares become oppositions, and semi-squares become squares.

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posted May 17, 2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Vesta,

so do you think it would make sense to look at the 2nd for relationships, too?

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posted May 17, 2009 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Though, there is not much research done on the 11th harmonic it seems to be that of hope, wishes and dreams that are internal and we may not be aware of.

In the 11th - when two planets are conjunct the person has a deep longing to bring them together, they form part of his deep seated internal fantasy about himself.

- George has Jennifer conjunct the ASC and Jenny conjunct the DSC in the 11th.

so, it makes me wonder?

The H11 seem to have a much mor steady- burning, obsessive, perhaps dream like quality. They are the things he dreams about himself.

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posted May 17, 2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
absolutely, this is how we form relationships!
do you get along?

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posted May 17, 2009 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
fast look at his 2nd jen and cupid conjunct in the second harmonic seventh house on his natal DSC (7th) as well. NEAT!!!!!

8th house cusp falls on my natal moon
He has my name Jenny Taylor on his natal 8th cusp. (interesting)

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posted May 17, 2009 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, the 11th fascinates me, too, even though I haven`t looked at it yet.
So it`s about obsessive fantasies and longing?
Then I am sure I will find strong connections to R`s chart there.


ROFL What did I just say?

In his 11th harmonick R has a Mars-Eros-conjunction opposing Sun.
And that Mars-Eros falls onto my natal Venus. lol

His 11th Pluto is on my natal SN and DSC.

But since this is about MY obsessions...

My 11th Pluto sits on the constellation I just mentioned!
Means, my 11th Pluto is conjunct my own Venus, but also conjunct his Mars and Eros and opposes his Sun.


My 11th Neptune sits on his 11th Venus-Juno-conjunction

my 11th ASC sits exactly on his natal Neptune;

his 11th Pluto conjuncts my natal DSC and SN and opposes my 11th Moon.
In turn my 11th Moon conjuncts his natal DSC.

Okay, obsession did you say?


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" his 11th harmonick R has a Mars-Eros-conjunction opposing Sun."
This fantasy / dream-life of his probably should have a NC 17 rating.
I wonder how much of this he expresses in his waking life, as his Mars in 5th house definitely points towards a healthy, ähm, appetite. lol

However, if this 11th Mars-Eros-conjunction falls onto my natal Venus, does that mean, if I ever met him, my feminity (Venus) would trigger that "dream" in him? Potentially I mean of course.

And since my 11th Pluto is conjunct this, does that mean, that all of this also triggers my deeper obsessions?

And probably all of this gets emphasized a little bit, as his natal Mars conjuncts my Pluto and squares my Venus, falling into his 5th and 8th house.

I guess those are not dreams of innocent romantic and tender fairy tale love. Somehow these constellations seem to paint a slightly different picture.

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posted May 17, 2009 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
They are not always what they seem

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posted May 17, 2009 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
But this constellation is pretty, mmh, promising, or what do you think?

Would you also say that the 11th harmonic relates to ones inner dreams, or have I gotten this wrong?

BTW it is funny, Jude has a conjunction on that exact spot, too.
In his case it is a conjunction of Jupiter, NN and MC, which falls onto his natal Sun, my natal Venus an my 11th Pluto.
So I guess I would also be able to trigger some dreams in him, but they would have a compeltely different tone?
More like career-dreams?

His 11th Eros is on my 11th Moon and natal NN and ASC though, so I guess it`s not all lost.

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posted May 17, 2009 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message

Here are the connections I have

My 11th MC conjunct his natal Moon.
My 11th NN conjunct his natal DSC
My 11th sun/Moon conjunction trine his natal moon
His 11th NN and mars conjunct my natal NN
His 11th SN conjunct my 11th Sun/venus
his jupiter conjunct my natal eros
his 11th vertex conjunct my 11th moon
his proserpina conjunct my natal moon


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posted May 18, 2009 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
you know, you can look to the harmonic of the year of your age to see what will happen for the year or rather could happen this year!

So, if I were 34 then I would pull my 34th harmonic to see the year.

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posted May 18, 2009 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I have heard of the age harmonics, will try this out.

As I am 34 years old, ,do I look at the 34th or 35th harmonic?

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posted May 18, 2009 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
DD, you look at the 34th harmonic However, when you turn 35 look at the 35th.

watch progressions to this harmonic!

I looked up the aspects for myself and they were accurate.

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posted May 18, 2009 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
But it wouldn`t make sense to look at the 35th harmonic, as I am in my 35th year of age?

I mean, if you`re between 0 and one year old, there is no 0 harmonic, or would that be the radix?

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posted May 18, 2009 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, the 34th harmonic is not so special I think.

Neptune - Psyche conjunction opposing Sun-Saturn-conjunction

Sun on the SN

Juno (on my natal Venus) opposing R`s name in this chart exactly

David conjunct Mars


The 35th harmonic

WOW

DEFINITELY a different picture there!

Sun-Venus-Mars-Vertex-Moon-conjunction
Okay, it is only a stellium, the orbs are too wide for a conjunction I guess

Moon: 28.4 Capricorn
Vertex: 01.4 Aquarius
Mars: 01.0 Aquarius
Venus: 04.2 Aquarius
Sun: 07.4 Aquarius


R`s natal Sun is on 3.1 Aquarius!

Pluto-Proserpina-conjunction, which falls exactly on R`s Pluto and opposes his Venus exactly and also opposes my Moon!

Triple conjunction of Uranus-Amor-Davida (developing affectionate and loving feelings for a David which come as a surprise?)


ASC falls exactly onto my natal IC and also conjuncts R`s Moon, NN and Lust and conjuncts Jude`s IC.
DSC conjuncts Jude`s Pluto


Juno conjuncts my natal Sun and Mercury


Moon is on the SN


PHEW!


Let me look at Jude`s Age harmonic:
He`s 36, so I first look at his 36th harmonic:

- Pluto conjunct Persephone

- Pluto widely conjunct DSC

- Mercury opposite Saturn

- Sun opposite Uranus

- Amor conjunct Chiron

His 37th harmonic would be:

JESUS: Kerstin is exactly on the Vertex. (and this conjuncts his natal Karma and opposes my natal Karma)


- Moon conjunct MC

- Venus opposite Jupiter

- Psyche opposite Amor (a soulmate couple; also it overlays both our ASC-DSC - axis and overlays my nodal axis, too)


- Eros conjunct SN (and Eros conjuncts his natal Eros nearly exactly)


Well, so I am having a look at R`s chart, too:


- exact conjunction of Kerstin and Amor
on the Sabian of:
"A HIDDEN CHOIR IS SINGING DURING A RELIGIOUS SERVICE"
- this Kerstin-Amor conjunction also falls onto my natal Vertex and his natal Mercury-Cupido-Valentine-conjunction

- the Kerstin-Amor-conjunction opposes Uranus, which falls exactly onto my natal Saturn with the same Sabian I mentioned yesterday about the "soul-family"


- his Age ASC falls exactly onto his natal Sun and onto the group of that Megastellium in my age harmonic

- his Age ERos falls onto my natal Venus

- he has an exact Pluto-Neptune-conjunction on my natal Moon

- Juno-Vertex-conjunction opposing his name in his chart, and that Juno-Vertex-conjunction falls onto my natal Sun

- Sun-Venus-conjunction which falls onto my natal Pluto and opposes my Part of Reincarnation

AS you noticed I used the harmonic for the next birthday, as I am in my 35th year now.
But if that is wrong and you were right, then I am very curious about next year.

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posted May 18, 2009 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, you were right and I was wrong.
So all of that awaits me next year?


However, so let`s have a more detailed look at my real age harmonic now:

- Sun widely conjunct Saturn in my natal 5th house, opposing Neptune-psyche conjunction

- Moon widely conjunct Uranus, with Moon being on my natal Jupiter and Uranus on my natal Juno

- Mercury on the Antivertex

- Mars-David-conjunction

- Sun on the SN

- Juno opposing R`s name in this chart, and Juno falling onto my natal Venus

Doesn`t look too exciting now.

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posted May 18, 2009 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I never thought of that, I am going to take a closer look and see the one that fits best.

Well, I like that one best!

That would put George Eros conjunct my Eros within 1 degree orb, conjunct my natal venus.

and his shows jen and venus conjunct.

My amor would be sitting on his venus.

Then that would put his par fortune conjunct my par fortune(1)

lots of great links like that,
I will have to look at natal and progressions to see if that fits.


this year 34 for me as well

But, jen and juno are conjunct on natal jen for this year and conjunct uranus opp venus
in a grand kite formation.

plus grand trine of sun, jen and Italy.


in natal chart he has jen and Italy conjunct with one that refers to drastic change.

Two love birds on a fence singing happily.

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posted May 18, 2009 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I will test this out:


1. Age of 15, 16th year of life

- spiritual awakening including starting doing astrology and reading Linda`s books

- very vivid dreamlife

- the year when my musical crush came into my life

- a "point of no return"


AStrological connections I expect to see:

- something dramatic like Uranus or Pluto aspecting Sun, Moon, Venus, ASC or the Nodes

- VERY strong Neptune emphasis

- some "feel-good" connections like Jupiter or Uranus contacting Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, ASC or the Nodes

- definitely some Eros and Psyche aspects

- Vertex-action


Age harmonic 15:

° Kerstin and Paul (his name) conjunct, do I really have to look any further?

° Moon-Mars-Jupiter conjunction on the IC

° Neptune-NN conjunction

° Venus-Psyche conjunction

° Uranus widely conjunct DSC

AGe 16:

° Uranus-Pluto-Psyche-conjunction opposing Mars

° Neptune - NN conjunction


Age 15 wins

2. age of 18, 19th year of life

- very depressed

- harsh conflict with reality

- very unbalanced and insecure


I expect:

- Saturn-Neptune

- or Saturn to Sun, Moon, Venus, Node, ASC or Pluto

- Uranus-Pluto for some reason


Age 18:

° SAturn-ASC-Kerstin conjunction opposing Moon

° Uranus-Vertex-Paul-conjunction

° NN-Neptune-conjunction opposing Chiron

° Sun-Venus-opposition

° MC-Mercury-Mars-conjunction (it was the year of my school-exam!)


Age 19:

° Sun-ASC-conjunction

° Pluto-Mercury conjunction


age 18 wins


3. 26, 27th year

- re-awakening of my love for musical

- re-awakening of spirituality

- a very happy time


I expect:

- high Jupiter and Uranus involvement with Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, ASC, Nodes, Vertex

- strong Venus aspects

Age 26:

- Jupiter-Pluto-conjunction opposite Mercury

- exact Vertex-Neptune-conjunction on 18 Areis
THE MAGIC CARPET OF ORIENTAL IMAGERY
(I felt like a new world was opened to me, including my first contact with the internet)


- Kerstin/Psyche conjunction opposing Moon

- Venus opposing Chiron

- Sun opposing Mars

- Uranus opposing (natal) Venus

Age 27:

- Jerome conjunct Neptune (Jerome was a musical actor I liked then but interestingly the year after that I was meeting him, so it would make sense for the following year, too)

- Uranus opposing Paul
(well, the year after that I was actually suprising myself with approaching him and chatting with him. lol)

- Kerstin conjunct ASC opposing Saturn

- MC conjunct Mercurfy opposite Mars


I think the first one wins


4. 32, 33rd year:

- surprising meeting of my musical crush

- psychic periods with enlightening dreams

- the preparation of "letting go" and finding back to a very serene state of mind


I expect:

- Jupiter, uranus and Neptune in contact to Sun, Moon, Venus, ASCo r Nodes, maybe also Vertex

- strong Jupiter / Neptune emphasis


age 32:

- Pluto conjunct Psyche

- Mars conjunct Uranus conjunct Chiron

- Paul opposite Kerstin (and we met. Actually we sat on opposite sides of the aisle. lol)

- Mercury conjunct Venus (The transiting Sun of that day was on the exact mercury degree!)


age 33:

- Sun-Uranus conjunction

- Mercury-Venus-Kerstin conjunction opposing Saturn

- Chiron opposite Pluto

- that was actually the year I finally started to let go of an unhealthy emotional fixation


So all in all I`d say, you were right we have to look at the current year, even though the next one looks so much better.

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posted May 18, 2009 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Vesta,

you said you have the book by David Hemblin.

What does he say about 2nd, 7th, 9th and 11th harmonic?

I was wondring about the 11th harmonic; after looking at some other charts, there seems to be more about it than just fantasy.
Could it also be signifying a "spiritual gate"?

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posted May 18, 2009 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
What he had to say, it what I posted above - though he said he had not researched the 11th as much as 2nd (above) 5th, 7th and 9th.

I was thinking cupido is about the conditions we place on love, unconditional, conditional ect...

These men are very choosey on who they will accept maybe we should look at cupido.

If that is the case, George has my name conjunct his Cupido and IC.

" I can love jen unconditionaly"
His mother's name sits there too so he would feel unconditional love from her, and love his mother unconditionaly.
Makes sense.

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posted May 18, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Why do you think cupido is about "conditions of love"? And what does it exactly mean?

I always thought that Cupido was the "look of love"?
But I think we definitely should keep an eye on him; he was the Roman soulmate of Psyche after all.
Even though it seems that the Greek Eros has split into two variations in Rome:
Amor: which is more about platonic unconditional love
Cupido: which is more "juicy", maybe more sexual

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I decided to use this link:
http://ryoin.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/synastry-aspects-for-soulmates-and-twinflames/

This is what I found:

His Vertex conjunct Asc (1’30 orb)

Vertex conjunct DSC in Composite Chart (although 5 orb)

My SN conjunct his Venus (3 orb)

My SN conjunct his Mars (2 orb)

His SN conjunct my Pluto (0 orb)

NN of Composite conjunct my DSC (0 orb)

SN Composite conjunct my Asc (0 orb)

My Arabic Part of Love conjunct his Venus (although 5 orb)

My Arabic Part of Love conjunct his Mars (4 orb)

My Arabic Part of Lovers conjunct his IC (0 orb)

His Arabic Part of Lovers conjunct my Asc (1 orb)

His Arabic Part of karma conjunct my
Mercury (1 orb)

His Arabic Part of Karma conjunct my Venus (4 orb)

His Arabic Part of Sexual Drive conjunct my Mercury (3 orb)

His Arabic Part of Marriage conjunct my Mercury (3 orb)

His Antiscon of the Sun conjunct my Mars (0 orb)

His Sun conjunct my Asc (2 orb)

My Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct his Sun (2 orb)

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posted May 18, 2009 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Martha lang wescott said this in her book but I got cupido and amor confused.

Sorry!

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