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posted May 24, 2009 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I just made that "soulmate calculation" for the synastry with Keanu Reeves (and believe me I would never have thought about it before. lol).

However: those are the aspects.

his DSC conjunct my JUNO
his MOON trine my JUNO
his MARS Conjunct my EROS
his VENUS conjunct my EROS
his PLUTO opposite my JUNO

his MOON conjunct my SATURN
his MARS conjunct my DESTINN
His VENUS conjunct my DESTINN

his SATURN conjunct my FORTUNA
his NN trine my FORTUNA
his TYCHE conjunct my SATURN
his TYCHE trine my JUNO
his JUNO conjunct my VALENTINE
his EROS opposite my JUNO
his KARMA trine my EROS

his SUN and my VENUS in Earth
his MARS and my JUNO in Water
his EROS And my VENUS in Earth
his PLUTO and my VENUS in Earth

his LUST conjunct my VESTA
his LUST conjunct my VENUS

his NEPTUNE trine my JUNO

his PLUTO conjunct my PERSEPHONE

my DSC quinkunx his VALENTINE
my MOON quinkunx his EROS
my VENUS Conjunct his AMOR

my EROS And his VENUS in Water
my EROS And his JUNO in Water
my PLUTO and his PSYCHE in Air
my PLUTO and his APHRODITE in Air


For a score of 57 points


That is not bad now, is it?

*gulping* Maybe I should have gone to that concert of his band, when they played in the city I was studying in.
Ah past is past.

But interesting result. Now I want to apply it to my own calculator, too.


EDIT:
Well, with my own calculator the score was "only" 41 points. LOL


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posted May 24, 2009 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

are you considering going back to your FB?

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posted May 24, 2009 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL on your own calculator

Well, l have no idea in truth DD. The pull is so strong and that damn moon on my AC and sun/venus/psyche on my DC with his saturn on my IC is probably doing it

so hard to know what to do really. He contacted me and l was just right back there.


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posted May 24, 2009 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you laughing at my own calculator?
I like some structured approach to astrology, too. Besides I apparently only feel comfortable with my own theory.
But I guess that is pretty normal and everyone feels like this.

Well, and I`ve ALWAYS been working on "calculators", from the first time I ever started doing astrology; of course the theories and "calculators" have changed or been modified since then.


But to talk about you: What`s with Gun Man now? You said it was not over, but feel that attraction to FB still?
Which pull is stronger?
Oh, I guess I am too curious now. Sorry.

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posted May 24, 2009 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hehe sorry to laugh DD... it reminded me of myself and my own calculator. I'm really good at being over generous with figures lol

I don't know. Both heavily Aquarian. I'm confused actually. Gun man l get on brilliantly with mentally but l feel uncomfortable around him, he has this ability to bring out the worst in me libra moon, same as my ex. The indecisiveness kills me.

My ex (lets call him Andy) l just am unable to cut ties with. I have allowed him to hut me and l still wanna go back for more haha
i must be crazy!!! His planets all over my angles must be confusing me and making me disorientated

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posted May 24, 2009 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
DD, I would love to see your Calculator for soul mates. I think you should !


Lara, I know how you feel about the pull, but if he makes you feel uncomfortable is that what you realy want in a relationship? It should be comforting like a best friend that you can tell your deepest secrets to.
If his behavior reminds you of your ex then you may subconsciously hold that against him and that will be no good in the relationship.
Make sure it is what you want and not repeating old patterns.

(just a friendly opinion)


So DD,
Johnny's aura conjunct our mercury(me)/Chiron(him) conjunction quincunx my Eros and his iris and ASC(conjunct), MY Eros square his Psyche and my Iris(conjunct),qunicunx my psyche, opp my aura and our ASC(me)/MC(him) conjunction, his eros square my ASC and aura.

So there is also an eros-aura DW.
That's hot!LOL


My aura and ASC opp his Psyche
his aura quincunx my eros conjunct his ASC

his eros square my aura and ASC

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posted May 24, 2009 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have a moon/eros DW.
probably doesn't mean much though lol

I know Vesta, but it's no old patterns, it's a new lesson and if l could just figure it out l might be shot of the both of them!

Both have hurt me... l need to understand why.

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posted May 24, 2009 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
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posted May 25, 2009 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Vesta,

I will post the first draft when I come home.

It`s not really finished though.
I`m still pondering if I should include squares.
So we could see the potential for harmonious soulmates in conjunction and trine while opposition and square would indicate more tension, the square obviously more than the opposition.


Lara,

Moon-Eros is definitely significant, especially since Moon is receptive YIN-energy, and Eros is active YANG energy. Of course we have a mix here, as Moon is no sexual planet per se, but it should be strong anyway.
Just think of how strong a Moon-Mars-aspect can be!

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posted May 25, 2009 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I found something, worth of investigating I think.


"Yang symbol Yin symbol

----------- ----------

SUN: archetypal masculine/yang MOON: archetypal feminine/yin

life energy, spirit life energy, soul

MERCURY: masculine/yang intelligence, IRIS: feminine/yin intelligence,

"left brain", data collecting, "right brain", intuitive

and analytical mind and synthesizing mind

MARS: masculine desire, dynamic VENUS: feminine desire, receptive

activity, outward acting pleasure activity, inward drawn pleasure

JUPITER: Sky Father, male CERES: Earth Mother, female

protector and nurturer, nurturer and protector,

promoter of ethics/abundance promoter of ethics/abundance

SATURN: masculine energy of VESTA: feminine energy of

tradition, structure, and tradition, structure, and

material good order material good order

CHIRON: masculine energy of healing- HYGIEA: feminine energy of healing-

transformation and purification transformation and purification

URANUS: masculine change agent PALLAS: feminine change agent

and consciousness raiser and consciousness raiser

NEPTUNE: masculine passivity and PROSERPINA: feminine passivity and

sublime/altered states sublime/altered states

PLUTO: masculine energy of primal JUNO: feminine energy of primal

power and transformation power and transformation

HEPHAISTOS: masculine principle of ASTRAEA: feminine principle of

work, order, integration and work, order, integration and

disintegration disintegration

APOLLO: additional solar symbol, DIANA: additional lunar symbol,

creative maturity emotional maturity

BACCHUS: masculine symbol BLACK MOON LILITH: feminine symbol

of dark primal passions, of dark primal passions,

escapism and individualism, escapism and individualism,

and inspirational power and inspirational power"


http://www.fixedstarsandasteroids.com/Samples/Iris.htm

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posted May 25, 2009 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
BTW I think Lilith´s counterpart is Lucifer.

Interestingly even their names reflect that Black Moon Lilith and Lucifer means the bringer of light.

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posted May 25, 2009 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Regarding my calculator:

Don`t get me wrong, this is not meant as some form of competition to IQ`s calculator or anyone else`s.
I think IQ`s calculator is superb and excellent; he wrote he crosschecked it against 100 strong soulmate pairings, so it is well proven and tested.


I just have two or three things that I see differently, for once that is the lack of Moon aspects. Moon is THE Yin planet and should figure more strongly; at least that is what I have found in synastry. Also, I am not convinced of Tyche and Fortuna.
They are not linked to fate in the destined sense, but more to luck, lucky events happening to you. Of course luck could be also an ingredient of fate.


However, so I made own set of planets, angles and asteroids:

SET:
ASC/ DSC, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Neptune, Pluto
Saturn, Nodes, Vertex
ERos, Psyche, Valentine, Amor, Juno, Lust, Karma, Destinn and Moira

My preferred orbs are similiar to his:
3 degree for conjunction with main bodies (planets and angles), all others have 2 degrees.


My basic thought or theory is that OTHER HALVES have a strong YIN-YANG connection to each other.

So I have these objects in mind:

1. Main YANG / YIN Bodies

Yang:
ASC
Sun
Mars
Pluto
Eros

YIN:
DSC
Moon
Venus
Neptune
Psyche

(IC would be more important for family relations)


2. FATED objects:

Saturn
Nodes
Vertex

Karma
Destinn
Moira


3. LOVE ASTEROIDS (Love and sex actually )

Valentine
Amor

Juno
Lust

- Juno, even though a feminine principle, does seem to have very strong relations to sexual intensity, too

POINTS CALCULATION

1. MAIN YANG bodies to MAIN YIN bodies/ MAIN YIN bodies to MAIN YANG b odies

conjunction: 5 pts
opposition: 3 pts
trine: 2 pts
quinkunx: 1 pts


2. MAIN BODIES to LOVE ASTEROIDS

conjunction: 3 pts
opposition: 2 pts
trine, quinkunx: 1 pts


3. MAIN BODIES to FATED

conjunction: 3pts
opposition: 2pts
trine, quinkunx: 1 pts

4. FATED to LOVE asteroids:

conjunctions, opposition: 2 pts
trine, quinkunx: 1 pts


5. FATED to FATED and LOVE to LOVE

conjunction, opposition: 2pts
trine, quinkunx: 1 pts


6. SOULMATE PAIRINGS:

same as IQ`s:

Venus-Mars
ERos-Psyche
Zeus-Hera
Pluto-persephone / Proserpina
Isis - Osiris
Adonis - Innanen

I am pondering if we could also add
Jupiter- Juno
Siva - Kaali


conjunction: 5 pts
opposition: 3 pts
trine: 2 pts
quinkunx: 1 pts


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posted May 25, 2009 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
oh i see, you mean this type of calculator!!! I thought you meant adding up in your head as opposed to adding up on an electronic calculator LOL

sorry DD. I was in no way offending your calculator. In fact i'm going to try it out in a bit with Gun Man and Andy.!!

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posted May 25, 2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I would appreciate that, cause if it doesn`t work, I can kick it into the trash. lol

I tested it with Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward and they scored over 50 pts in this system, whereas they had less than 50 pts in IQ`s system which surprised me.

Also, made the calculation for friends of mine who are definitely soulmates, and they also had just a score of about 30 pts in IQ´s system.
Of course he is right, when he sais, it`s just about probability, but I just WANT to find a reliable system. I am stubborn in that way. Aquarius-Moon in 2nd house or in 3rd house in equal. Don´t forget Aquarius is a fixed sign, as you well know.

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posted May 25, 2009 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, i am the same... well similar. Aries moon in 3rd. I absolutely have to find a stable, logical and well-researched system for everything in life! lol

My middle name should be research. You should see my web browser history and favourites list. It is so long l now can't find anything

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posted May 25, 2009 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Same here.

I know the info is there somewhere, but there is such a LOAD of info and favourite I can`t see anything basically. lol

I just realized I accidentally eleminated Mars-Pluto from the soulmates list with my system. That is not good.
Also, Venus-Neptune, seems to me pretty soulmatey.

But if I also compare the YANG planets to each other and the YIN planets to each other, the scores will get too high I guess. Oh crap, probably I will have to do it all over again.

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posted May 25, 2009 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I got with gun man - 90 LOL !!!!
20 points were soul mates though and i didn't look at aspects of fated/love objects to the soul mate pairings.

EDIT: Andy i got 33!

Let me check my gun man figures

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posted May 25, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
90?

Did you keep to the orb?
And also did you compare only Yin to Yang or Yang to Yang and Yin to Yin also?

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posted May 25, 2009 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yup i kept to the orb. 3 for conjunct and 2 for rest.

This is my list with him, maybe i'm so chilled out l did something wrong

My AC conjunct his DC 5 points
My AC trine his psyche 2 points
My sun quincunx his Neptune 1 point
My mars quincunx his moon 1 point
My Pluto opposes his eros 3 poiints
My venus opposes his moon 3 points
My Neptune trine his eros 2 points
His AC conjunct my DC 5 points
His moon quincunx my mars 1 point
His Pluto conjunct my eros 5 points
His eros trine my Neptune 2 points
30

My sun trine his destinn 1 point
My mars trine his moira 1 point
My Pluto trine his moira 1 point
My venus trine his vertex 1 point
My psyche opposes his Saturn 2 points
His mars quincunx my moira 1 point
His venus trine my vertex 1 point
His venus trine my moira 1 point
His venus conjunct my destinn 3 points
His psyche quincunx my karma 1 point
14

My Pluto quincunx his valentine 1 point
My Pluto opposes his eros 3 points
My Neptune trine his eros 1 point
His moon opposes my amor 2 points
His Neptune trine my lust 1 point
His psyche quincunx my juno 1 point
9

Love/fated
my valentine quincunx his vertex 1 point
my valentine trine his karma 1 point
my valentine opposes his moira 2 points
my valentine quincunx his NN 1 point
my amor trine his vertex 1 point
my juno trine his karma 1 point
his amor conjunct my Saturn 2 points
his amor conjunct my NN 2 points
11

love to love
my lust quincunx his lust 1 point
my valentine quincunx his valentine 1 point
2

fated to fated
my NN trine his vertex 1 point
my destinn trine his Saturn 1 point
my moira conjunct his Saturn 2 points
4

SOUL MATES
His Pluto trine my Proserpina 5 points
Zeus quincunx hera 5 points
osiris trine isis 
 5 points
adonis trine innanen
 5 points
20

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posted May 25, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I checked your results with Gunman, too, but I only got a result of 31 points.


1. his ASC conjunct your DSC 5 pts
his Eros trine your Neptune 2 pts
his DSC trine your ERos 2 pts

2. his MOon opposite your Amor 2 points
his Eros trine your Valentine 1 pt
his Valentine quinkunx your Pluto 1 pt

3. his Mars quinkunx your Moira 1 pt
his Psyche quinkunx your Karma 1 pt
his Saturn opposite your psyche 2 pt
his Destinn trine your Sun 1 pt


4. his NN quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt
his Vertex quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt
his Vertex trine your Amor 1 poiunt
his Moira oppoiste oyur Valentine 2 pt


5. his Saturn trine your Destinn 1 pt
his SAturn conjunct your Moira 3 pt
his Valentine quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt
his Lust quinkunx your Lust 1 pt

6. his Zeus quinkunx your Hera 1 pt
his Osiris trine your Isis 2 pts


What did we do differently?

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posted May 25, 2009 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
My sun quincunx his Neptune 1 point
The orb is nearly 3 degree, too wide for a quinkunx.


My mars quincunx his moon 1 point
Again the orb is 3 degree


My Pluto opposes his eros 3 poiints
another 3 degree orb

My venus opposes his moon 3 points
Aha, you also counted the Yin-Yin and Yang-YAng?
Well, then I will have to reconsider the categories and make them higher, as the results will generally be higher. But I guess it makes sense to do so.

His AC conjunct my DC 5 points
Well, I wouldn`t count it twice; you`ve already had it when you looked at your ASC. Or an ASC-ASC opposition would ALWAYS rate 10 points.


His moon quincunx my mars 1 point
You already counted that above.


His Pluto conjunct my eros 5 points
5 degree orb??


His eros trine my Neptune 2 points
You already counted that.


My mars trine his moira 1 point
3 degree orb again.


My Pluto trine his moira 1 point
4 degree orb

My psyche opposes his Saturn 2 points
Yes, I saw that, and even though it looks pretty fated or karmic, I also was a bit worried. Psyche is so sensitive and vulnerable, very easily hurt by Saturn`s temporary withdrawals.


His venus trine my vertex 1 point
You already counted that, when you looked at your vertex.

His venus trine my moira 1 point
It`s 2,5 degree, I guess it is just barely within orb (I would probably consider that a weak aspect)


His venus conjunct my destinn 3 points
3,5 degree - okay, I said 3 degree orb with major planets, but actually I meant 3 degree for aspect between major planet to major planet, but okay, I guess we could leave that as a weak orbed aspect, maybe substract one point because of its orb.


My Neptune trine his eros 1 point
His moon opposes my amor 2 points
You already counted those.


His psyche quincunx my juno 1 point
over 2 degree orb


my valentine trine his karma 1 point
Those are like 20 degrees from each other.


my juno trine his karma 1 point
Over 2 degrees

his amor conjunct my Saturn 2 points
4 degree orb

his amor conjunct my NN 2 points
5 degree


my NN trine his vertex 1 point
4 degree orb

His Pluto trine my Proserpina 5 points
4 degree orb


Zeus quincunx hera 5 points
Yes, it`s very exact, but I only give one point for a quinkunx.


osiris trine isis 
 5 points
trine has 2 points


adonis trine innanen
 5 points
3 degree orb


I think I understand what happened:
We used differing orbs, which of course would modify the results, but it also means that you would need to put the categories on a higher level, cause with orbs of 3 - 5 degree almost everyone will have a score of 50 p oints or higher.

The other thing I noticed is, that you counted some of the aspects twice.

Maybe if you made the synastry from the persepective of one person only, this mistake would be minimized.
I mean do the synastry from YOUR point of view and look at your YANG planets, YING planets, fated, love asteroids and so on. But don´t switch perspective, cause then it happens that we count an aspect twice.


I hope you are not upset that I had such a close look at your synastry, but I needed to understand how this difference could happen.

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posted May 25, 2009 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have no idea. I was reading mine off a complete aspects list i made up ages ago. I did round off any aspect over .50 to the next degree up though.

Don't you count his AC to my DC too? Seeing as it's a double aspect?

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posted May 25, 2009 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
The double counting of ASC, I will consider that. So okay, 5 points more for that.

I`m an unbearable killjoy, am I not?

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The double counting of ASC, I will consider that. So okay, 5 points more for that.

I`m an unbearable killjoy, am I not?

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posted May 25, 2009 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
pluto pers is def 3 degrees and weirdly some of the others are less on my chart! weird.

Yeah, l did it from both perspective... i got confused huh? Sorry DD

So 36 for Gun man and 33 (i think) for Andy. Interestingly, Gun man and l have very little love aspects. hmmm maybe that is why i don't feel it from him with this?
Andy's saturn is on my IC - that must be hurtful too no?

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