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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:16 PM
I just made that "soulmate calculation" for the synastry with Keanu Reeves (and believe me I would never have thought about it before. lol).However: those are the aspects. his DSC conjunct my JUNO his MOON trine my JUNO his MARS Conjunct my EROS his VENUS conjunct my EROS his PLUTO opposite my JUNO his MOON conjunct my SATURN his MARS conjunct my DESTINN His VENUS conjunct my DESTINN his SATURN conjunct my FORTUNA his NN trine my FORTUNA his TYCHE conjunct my SATURN his TYCHE trine my JUNO his JUNO conjunct my VALENTINE his EROS opposite my JUNO his KARMA trine my EROS his SUN and my VENUS in Earth his MARS and my JUNO in Water his EROS And my VENUS in Earth his PLUTO and my VENUS in Earth his LUST conjunct my VESTA his LUST conjunct my VENUS  his NEPTUNE trine my JUNO his PLUTO conjunct my PERSEPHONE my DSC quinkunx his VALENTINE my MOON quinkunx his EROS my VENUS Conjunct his AMOR my EROS And his VENUS in Water my EROS And his JUNO in Water my PLUTO and his PSYCHE in Air my PLUTO and his APHRODITE in Air For a score of 57 points 
That is not bad now, is it?
*gulping* Maybe I should have gone to that concert of his band, when they played in the city I was studying in. Ah past is past. But interesting result. Now I want to apply it to my own calculator, too.  EDIT: Well, with my own calculator the score was "only" 41 points. LOL
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:11 PM
Lara,are you considering going back to your FB? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:18 PM
LOL on your own calculator Well, l have no idea in truth DD. The pull is so strong and that damn moon on my AC and sun/venus/psyche on my DC with his saturn on my IC is probably doing it  so hard to know what to do really. He contacted me and l was just right back there.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:36 PM
Why are you laughing at my own calculator? I like some structured approach to astrology, too. Besides I apparently only feel comfortable with my own theory. But I guess that is pretty normal and everyone feels like this.Well, and I`ve ALWAYS been working on "calculators", from the first time I ever started doing astrology; of course the theories and "calculators" have changed or been modified since then. But to talk about you: What`s with Gun Man now? You said it was not over, but feel that attraction to FB still? Which pull is stronger? Oh, I guess I am too curious now. Sorry. 
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:41 PM
hehe sorry to laugh DD... it reminded me of myself and my own calculator. I'm really good at being over generous with figures lolI don't know. Both heavily Aquarian. I'm confused actually. Gun man l get on brilliantly with mentally but l feel uncomfortable around him, he has this ability to bring out the worst in me libra moon, same as my ex. The indecisiveness kills me. My ex (lets call him Andy) l just am unable to cut ties with. I have allowed him to hut me and l still wanna go back for more haha i must be crazy!!! His planets all over my angles must be confusing me and making me disorientated  IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 06:47 PM
DD, I would love to see your Calculator for soul mates. I think you should ! Lara, I know how you feel about the pull, but if he makes you feel uncomfortable is that what you realy want in a relationship? It should be comforting like a best friend that you can tell your deepest secrets to. If his behavior reminds you of your ex then you may subconsciously hold that against him and that will be no good in the relationship. Make sure it is what you want and not repeating old patterns.
(just a friendly opinion) So DD, Johnny's aura conjunct our mercury(me)/Chiron(him) conjunction quincunx my Eros and his iris and ASC(conjunct), MY Eros square his Psyche and my Iris(conjunct),qunicunx my psyche, opp my aura and our ASC(me)/MC(him) conjunction, his eros square my ASC and aura.
So there is also an eros-aura DW. That's hot!LOL My aura and ASC opp his Psyche his aura quincunx my eros conjunct his ASC  his eros square my aura and ASC IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 08:50 PM
I have a moon/eros DW. probably doesn't mean much though lolI know Vesta, but it's no old patterns, it's a new lesson and if l could just figure it out l might be shot of the both of them! Both have hurt me... l need to understand why.  IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 09:48 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 05:37 AM
Vesta,I will post the first draft when I come home. It`s not really finished though. I`m still pondering if I should include squares. So we could see the potential for harmonious soulmates in conjunction and trine while opposition and square would indicate more tension, the square obviously more than the opposition. Lara,
Moon-Eros is definitely significant, especially since Moon is receptive YIN-energy, and Eros is active YANG energy. Of course we have a mix here, as Moon is no sexual planet per se, but it should be strong anyway. Just think of how strong a Moon-Mars-aspect can be! IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 05:48 AM
I found something, worth of investigating I think. "Yang symbol Yin symbol
----------- ---------- SUN: archetypal masculine/yang MOON: archetypal feminine/yin life energy, spirit life energy, soul MERCURY: masculine/yang intelligence, IRIS: feminine/yin intelligence, "left brain", data collecting, "right brain", intuitive and analytical mind and synthesizing mind MARS: masculine desire, dynamic VENUS: feminine desire, receptive activity, outward acting pleasure activity, inward drawn pleasure JUPITER: Sky Father, male CERES: Earth Mother, female protector and nurturer, nurturer and protector, promoter of ethics/abundance promoter of ethics/abundance SATURN: masculine energy of VESTA: feminine energy of tradition, structure, and tradition, structure, and material good order material good order CHIRON: masculine energy of healing- HYGIEA: feminine energy of healing- transformation and purification transformation and purification URANUS: masculine change agent PALLAS: feminine change agent and consciousness raiser and consciousness raiser NEPTUNE: masculine passivity and PROSERPINA: feminine passivity and sublime/altered states sublime/altered states PLUTO: masculine energy of primal JUNO: feminine energy of primal power and transformation power and transformation HEPHAISTOS: masculine principle of ASTRAEA: feminine principle of work, order, integration and work, order, integration and disintegration disintegration APOLLO: additional solar symbol, DIANA: additional lunar symbol, creative maturity emotional maturity BACCHUS: masculine symbol BLACK MOON LILITH: feminine symbol of dark primal passions, of dark primal passions, escapism and individualism, escapism and individualism, and inspirational power and inspirational power" http://www.fixedstarsandasteroids.com/Samples/Iris.htm IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 05:48 AM
BTW I think Lilith´s counterpart is Lucifer.Interestingly even their names reflect that Black Moon Lilith and Lucifer means the bringer of light. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 11:48 AM
Regarding my calculator:Don`t get me wrong, this is not meant as some form of competition to IQ`s calculator or anyone else`s. I think IQ`s calculator is superb and excellent; he wrote he crosschecked it against 100 strong soulmate pairings, so it is well proven and tested. I just have two or three things that I see differently, for once that is the lack of Moon aspects. Moon is THE Yin planet and should figure more strongly; at least that is what I have found in synastry. Also, I am not convinced of Tyche and Fortuna. They are not linked to fate in the destined sense, but more to luck, lucky events happening to you. Of course luck could be also an ingredient of fate. 
However, so I made own set of planets, angles and asteroids:
SET: ASC/ DSC, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Neptune, Pluto Saturn, Nodes, Vertex ERos, Psyche, Valentine, Amor, Juno, Lust, Karma, Destinn and Moira My preferred orbs are similiar to his: 3 degree for conjunction with main bodies (planets and angles), all others have 2 degrees. My basic thought or theory is that OTHER HALVES have a strong YIN-YANG connection to each other.
So I have these objects in mind: 1. Main YANG / YIN Bodies Yang: ASC Sun Mars Pluto Eros YIN: DSC Moon Venus Neptune Psyche (IC would be more important for family relations) 2. FATED objects:
Saturn Nodes Vertex Karma Destinn Moira 3. LOVE ASTEROIDS (Love and sex actually )
Valentine Amor Juno Lust - Juno, even though a feminine principle, does seem to have very strong relations to sexual intensity, too POINTS CALCULATION 1. MAIN YANG bodies to MAIN YIN bodies/ MAIN YIN bodies to MAIN YANG b odies conjunction: 5 pts opposition: 3 pts trine: 2 pts quinkunx: 1 pts 2. MAIN BODIES to LOVE ASTEROIDS
conjunction: 3 pts opposition: 2 pts trine, quinkunx: 1 pts 3. MAIN BODIES to FATED
conjunction: 3pts opposition: 2pts trine, quinkunx: 1 pts 4. FATED to LOVE asteroids: conjunctions, opposition: 2 pts trine, quinkunx: 1 pts 5. FATED to FATED and LOVE to LOVE
conjunction, opposition: 2pts trine, quinkunx: 1 pts 6. SOULMATE PAIRINGS:
same as IQ`s: Venus-Mars ERos-Psyche Zeus-Hera Pluto-persephone / Proserpina Isis - Osiris Adonis - Innanen I am pondering if we could also add Jupiter- Juno Siva - Kaali conjunction: 5 pts opposition: 3 pts trine: 2 pts quinkunx: 1 pts
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 11:53 AM
oh i see, you mean this type of calculator!!! I thought you meant adding up in your head as opposed to adding up on an electronic calculator LOL sorry DD. I was in no way offending your calculator. In fact i'm going to try it out in a bit with Gun Man and Andy.!! IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 11:58 AM
Well, I would appreciate that, cause if it doesn`t work, I can kick it into the trash. lolI tested it with Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward and they scored over 50 pts in this system, whereas they had less than 50 pts in IQ`s system which surprised me. Also, made the calculation for friends of mine who are definitely soulmates, and they also had just a score of about 30 pts in IQ´s system. Of course he is right, when he sais, it`s just about probability, but I just WANT to find a reliable system. I am stubborn in that way. Aquarius-Moon in 2nd house or in 3rd house in equal. Don´t forget Aquarius is a fixed sign, as you well know.  IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 12:07 PM
Yes, i am the same... well similar. Aries moon in 3rd. I absolutely have to find a stable, logical and well-researched system for everything in life! lolMy middle name should be research. You should see my web browser history and favourites list. It is so long l now can't find anything  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 12:36 PM
Same here.I know the info is there somewhere, but there is such a LOAD of info and favourite I can`t see anything basically. lol I just realized I accidentally eleminated Mars-Pluto from the soulmates list with my system. That is not good. Also, Venus-Neptune, seems to me pretty soulmatey. But if I also compare the YANG planets to each other and the YIN planets to each other, the scores will get too high I guess. Oh crap, probably I will have to do it all over again. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 01:20 PM
I got with gun man - 90 LOL !!!! 20 points were soul mates though and i didn't look at aspects of fated/love objects to the soul mate pairings. EDIT: Andy i got 33! Let me check my gun man figures IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 01:24 PM
90?Did you keep to the orb? And also did you compare only Yin to Yang or Yang to Yang and Yin to Yin also? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 01:59 PM
yup i kept to the orb. 3 for conjunct and 2 for rest.This is my list with him, maybe i'm so chilled out l did something wrong  My AC conjunct his DC 5 points My AC trine his psyche 2 points My sun quincunx his Neptune 1 point My mars quincunx his moon 1 point My Pluto opposes his eros 3 poiints My venus opposes his moon 3 points My Neptune trine his eros 2 points His AC conjunct my DC 5 points His moon quincunx my mars 1 point His Pluto conjunct my eros 5 points His eros trine my Neptune 2 points 30 My sun trine his destinn 1 point My mars trine his moira 1 point My Pluto trine his moira 1 point My venus trine his vertex 1 point My psyche opposes his Saturn 2 points His mars quincunx my moira 1 point His venus trine my vertex 1 point His venus trine my moira 1 point His venus conjunct my destinn 3 points His psyche quincunx my karma 1 point 14 My Pluto quincunx his valentine 1 point My Pluto opposes his eros 3 points My Neptune trine his eros 1 point His moon opposes my amor 2 points His Neptune trine my lust 1 point His psyche quincunx my juno 1 point 9 Love/fated my valentine quincunx his vertex 1 point my valentine trine his karma 1 point my valentine opposes his moira 2 points my valentine quincunx his NN 1 point my amor trine his vertex 1 point my juno trine his karma 1 point his amor conjunct my Saturn 2 points his amor conjunct my NN 2 points 11 love to love my lust quincunx his lust 1 point my valentine quincunx his valentine 1 point 2 fated to fated my NN trine his vertex 1 point my destinn trine his Saturn 1 point my moira conjunct his Saturn 2 points 4 SOUL MATES His Pluto trine my Proserpina 5 points Zeus quincunx hera 5 points osiris trine isis
5 points adonis trine innanen
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 02:24 PM
Lara,I checked your results with Gunman, too, but I only got a result of 31 points.  1. his ASC conjunct your DSC 5 pts his Eros trine your Neptune 2 pts his DSC trine your ERos 2 pts
2. his MOon opposite your Amor 2 points his Eros trine your Valentine 1 pt his Valentine quinkunx your Pluto 1 pt 3. his Mars quinkunx your Moira 1 pt his Psyche quinkunx your Karma 1 pt his Saturn opposite your psyche 2 pt his Destinn trine your Sun 1 pt 4. his NN quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt his Vertex quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt his Vertex trine your Amor 1 poiunt his Moira oppoiste oyur Valentine 2 pt
5. his Saturn trine your Destinn 1 pt his SAturn conjunct your Moira 3 pt his Valentine quinkunx your Valentine 1 pt his Lust quinkunx your Lust 1 pt
6. his Zeus quinkunx your Hera 1 pt his Osiris trine your Isis 2 pts What did we do differently?
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 02:42 PM
My sun quincunx his Neptune 1 point The orb is nearly 3 degree, too wide for a quinkunx. My mars quincunx his moon 1 point Again the orb is 3 degree
My Pluto opposes his eros 3 poiints another 3 degree orb
My venus opposes his moon 3 points Aha, you also counted the Yin-Yin and Yang-YAng? Well, then I will have to reconsider the categories and make them higher, as the results will generally be higher. But I guess it makes sense to do so. His AC conjunct my DC 5 points Well, I wouldn`t count it twice; you`ve already had it when you looked at your ASC. Or an ASC-ASC opposition would ALWAYS rate 10 points. His moon quincunx my mars 1 point You already counted that above.
His Pluto conjunct my eros 5 points 5 degree orb??
His eros trine my Neptune 2 points You already counted that.
My mars trine his moira 1 point 3 degree orb again.
My Pluto trine his moira 1 point 4 degree orb
My psyche opposes his Saturn 2 points Yes, I saw that, and even though it looks pretty fated or karmic, I also was a bit worried. Psyche is so sensitive and vulnerable, very easily hurt by Saturn`s temporary withdrawals. His venus trine my vertex 1 point You already counted that, when you looked at your vertex.
His venus trine my moira 1 point It`s 2,5 degree, I guess it is just barely within orb (I would probably consider that a weak aspect) His venus conjunct my destinn 3 points 3,5 degree - okay, I said 3 degree orb with major planets, but actually I meant 3 degree for aspect between major planet to major planet, but okay, I guess we could leave that as a weak orbed aspect, maybe substract one point because of its orb.
My Neptune trine his eros 1 point His moon opposes my amor 2 points You already counted those.
His psyche quincunx my juno 1 point over 2 degree orb
my valentine trine his karma 1 point Those are like 20 degrees from each other. 
my juno trine his karma 1 point Over 2 degrees
his amor conjunct my Saturn 2 points 4 degree orb his amor conjunct my NN 2 points 5 degree my NN trine his vertex 1 point 4 degree orb
His Pluto trine my Proserpina 5 points 4 degree orb Zeus quincunx hera 5 points Yes, it`s very exact, but I only give one point for a quinkunx.
osiris trine isis
5 points trine has 2 points
adonis trine innanen
5 points 3 degree orb
I think I understand what happened: We used differing orbs, which of course would modify the results, but it also means that you would need to put the categories on a higher level, cause with orbs of 3 - 5 degree almost everyone will have a score of 50 p oints or higher.
The other thing I noticed is, that you counted some of the aspects twice. Maybe if you made the synastry from the persepective of one person only, this mistake would be minimized. I mean do the synastry from YOUR point of view and look at your YANG planets, YING planets, fated, love asteroids and so on. But don´t switch perspective, cause then it happens that we count an aspect twice. I hope you are not upset that I had such a close look at your synastry, but I needed to understand how this difference could happen. 
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 02:44 PM
I have no idea. I was reading mine off a complete aspects list i made up ages ago. I did round off any aspect over .50 to the next degree up though.Don't you count his AC to my DC too? Seeing as it's a double aspect?  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 02:47 PM
The double counting of ASC, I will consider that. So okay, 5 points more for that. I`m an unbearable killjoy, am I not?  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7038 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 02:47 PM
The double counting of ASC, I will consider that. So okay, 5 points more for that. I`m an unbearable killjoy, am I not?  IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 5362 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2009 03:00 PM
pluto pers is def 3 degrees and weirdly some of the others are less on my chart! weird.Yeah, l did it from both perspective... i got confused huh? Sorry DD  So 36 for Gun man and 33 (i think) for Andy. Interestingly, Gun man and l have very little love aspects. hmmm maybe that is why i don't feel it from him with this? Andy's saturn is on my IC - that must be hurtful too no? IP: Logged | |