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CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 08, 2016 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think anyone told anybody to stay out or is not welcome here. I don't know what happened here, but it just looks like to me that there's harbored resentment that has nothing to do with this thread. I'm not on here a lot, but that's what I'm seeing.

Oh well...

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Liliya
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posted September 08, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I don't think anyone told anybody to stay out or is not welcome here.

"If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 08, 2016 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
"If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

I can see how people would misinterpret that. But I got "things are gonna get raunchy and dirty here, you've been warned" from that. Kinda like in those comedy central roasts. I've heard that expression before, it usually doesn't mean "you are not welcome". Am I wrong?

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posted September 08, 2016 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get that. Actually, I fully understand that.
I think the parts that are missing from this particular situation are numerous other interactions with her. Where some of us are reacting to the whole picture, one "battle" at a time. So for those few who stumble in, it appears as if it's total chaos. Really, its roots spread far and wide.
I wouldn't call it resentment exactly. It's different than that. It really is.
Rebellion to her manipulation might be a closer interpretation. Looking in this thread, it all looks very minor and overblown. When viewed in the background of the bigger picture. Some are simply "sick of her s**t".

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Liliya
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posted September 08, 2016 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps, I just interpreted it differently. But apparently, I wasn't the only one.

My problem with this thread is not that I got "roasted". I actually usually enjoy Ami's non-serious topics. It's this introduction:
"I know we are in a politically correct climate in which one cannot call a spade a spade. That does not stop us here. We plow ahead with truth. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. "

What's the point of saying all this defensive things, if it's just a joke? Usually Ami makes dramatic introductions, when she writes her normal threads, not the joke ones.

It's ok to dissagree. LL a free open board, where all opinions are welcome. If you want to write only for people who will agree with you, invite all your Masketeers to your website and rein there.

PS. Cosmiq, I'm INFP too

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posted September 08, 2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liliya:
Perhaps, I just interpreted it differently. But apparently, I wasn't the only one.

My problem with this thread is not that I got "roasted". I actually usually enjoy Ami's non-serious topics. It's this introduction:
"I know we are in a politically correct climate in which one cannot call a spade a spade. That does not stop us here. We plow ahead with truth. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. "

What's the point of saying all this defensive things, if it's just a joke? Usually Ami makes dramatic introductions, when she writes her normal threads, not the joke ones.

It's ok to dissagree. LL a free open board, where all opinions are welcome. If you want to write only for people who will agree with you, invite all your Masketeers to your website and rein there.

PS. Cosmiq, I'm INFP too


Yes. Exactly how I took it.

INTJ here.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 08, 2016 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Relax, Guys.
Let's Move on

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posted September 08, 2016 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Relax, Guys.
Let's Move on


"Can't take the heat"?

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted September 08, 2016 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see, it's the wording of the intro and how it was executed. Ok, I can see that. Usually in roasts, they don't have the disclaimer - it's kinda implied or unspoken, right?

I do remember people getting offended from previous roasts on LL (especially from my jokes) - perhaps Ami meant well with the intro but it didn't quite come out the way it should. I can understand that.

C'mon, do you really think she believes that every Taurus "overeats for comfort and cannot fit into his pants"? Haha

quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
"Can't take the heat"?

quote:
Originally posted by Liliya:
PS. Cosmiq, I'm INFP too

Does that mean we're compatible, Liliya?

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DopGang
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posted September 08, 2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^
Yeeeeah!
That's it. I think with roasts it's almost expected that someone well inevitably take offense so when trouble comes it's sort of assumed that it's that. Which can be frustrating trying to explain that it's not that.

Well I'm glad it's all ironing itself out.

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bonsai
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posted September 08, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I can see how people would misinterpret that. But I got "things are gonna get raunchy and dirty here, you've been warned" from that. Kinda like in those comedy central roasts. I've heard that expression before, it usually doesn't mean "you are not welcome". Am I wrong?

Yeah but there's nothing dirty or raunchy she said afterwards. I didn't even find what she said offensive, I just didn't find it funny at all. Like dopgang I thought it was corny and childish. But as can be seen some people's reactions here may seem disproportionate in this thread but there is a bit of build up and bad blood from several previous threads (not saying you should go back and find them) and this thread was a case of the straw that broke the camel's back, which made some people feel the need to air their frustrations. And AA did create that final straw just by her introduction. The fact that there's more than one person says something. In the past I did see a few people blow up at Ami and I thought "why this hostility? She doesn't seem to say anything offensive" but I didn't say anything cause I didn't know the situation enough, then I saw some things she said myself to others and that's when I thought "aaahh. Now I can see why."

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posted September 08, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I don't think anyone told anybody to stay out or is not welcome here. I don't know what happened here, but it just looks like to me that there's harbored resentment that has nothing to do with this thread. I'm not on here a lot, but that's what I'm seeing.

Oh well...


That is exactly how I feel and that is why I find this thread and people's reaction to it surreal and leaves me feeling like WTF is going on??

I am an INFP too...

I don't check most threads in here, a thread has to really catch my attention for me to open it.

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posted September 08, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:

The entire point of my post has a similar meaning to a reference to the Christian Bible, oddly enough. It has relevance. While you stare at the stye in our eyes you fail to see the stye in your own eye.


I wasn't thinking of you at all when I wrote that btw.

But I find it interesting that you posted that quote bc that is exactly how I have been feeling when I read some of the comments in this thread like everyone is attacking her and looking down on her like they are holier than thou and they are so kind and perfect but is often those quiet ones that act like they never break a plate and are always PC and appropriate that have the most to hide and are the most unaware of their flaws, I AM NOT TALKING about you.

As for me I am the first one to tell my clients I am the last person that has any right to judge anyone so know that this is a safe place to talk to me about anything. I am very aware of my flaws and my dark side and just like I can feel extreme anger and give you a death look I love and feel compassion for others just as hard and intensely but I am NO cupcake, I am complex and full of flaws but also have a huge heart.

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Electro DGX
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posted September 08, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do see how the issue here is linked to past interactions. Someone who's interacted with her in the past is going to interpret the thread differently than those who haven't known her for that long. Isn't that how we all learn to cope, by judgung from our past experiences and using them to approach new ones properly?

Plus with MercuryRx, it made it even more bound to happen. Don't be hasty fellas

Though I do think Hypatia has a point. Accepting one's own flaws leads to greater understanding. That's why I always tell myself that I should just stop having high expectations of others. I see so many people that think that if everyone did things like they did then the world would be perfect, and I'm sitting here thinking to myself, "and you wonder why you're stressed out all the time." We should all strive to be perfect, but we must realize that we are not.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 08, 2016 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people on here come on here to LOOK for fights.

They try to pick fights.

I could try to think why and it would be that they have little self esteem and want to try to act big on here due to having a "small man" life.

People who are winners like CP and H don't pick fights with other people.

He is a musician and has achieved things in life.

She is accomplished too, as a counselor, I think.

People who have low self esteem/little man syndrome pick fights with others to try to act big.

I ignore,as result of 7 years of being a Mod and learning from wise people like Randall and Lala.

These "small man" people come and go on LL.

If one leaves, another pops up, so as long as you are a visible figure, you will get this.

I have learned how to deal with these kind of people.

I am grateful for that.

Most people on LL are amazing.

The jerky 2-5% is just something that kind of mirrors life.

If you can't take that heat, don't be a Mod


PS It still is really nice to have friends who will stand up for me cuz no one likes to be attacked and it feels really bad for anyone to be attacked.

I really, really appreciate people who will stand up for someone.

I stand up for people who are being attacked.

I even stood up for one of these people when people bullied him off LL

He wrote to me and I helped him to stay on LL lol

I hate bullying and being a jerk for no reason, so I stand up when I see it.

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posted September 08, 2016 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Same old, same old....

1) Ami makes a passive-aggressive jab
2) Someone gets irritated
3) People blame the one who got irritated, while others come to defend the one who got irritated
4) A war breaks out over Ami
5) Ami sits in delight being the center of attention, making this face and adding in as much passive-aggressiveness as her brain can possibly generate
6) People leave the site in disgust
7) People who used to be friendly are not anymore, because they were on opposite sides in one of the Ami Wars
8) Some people get banned because of Ami Wars
9) The site is polluted by this
10) But we're not supposed to say anything, ever.

But I can say this much....

quote:
Gemini--She has driven off all her girlfriends and is now onto the guys.

That's how Ami sees herself. As one who drives people away. In her case, it's true. I wouldn't say that about other Geminis, though.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I get that. Actually, I fully understand that.
I think the parts that are missing from this particular situation are numerous other interactions with her. Where some of us are reacting to the whole picture, one "battle" at a time. So for those few who stumble in, it appears as if it's total chaos. Really, its roots spread far and wide.
I wouldn't call it resentment exactly. It's different than that. It really is.
Rebellion to her manipulation might be a closer interpretation. Looking in this thread, it all looks very minor and overblown. When viewed in the background of the bigger picture. Some are simply "sick of her s**t".

Yup

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posted September 08, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrowolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries - The other day a friend got to talk about Their visit to the shrink for a WHOLE 3 MINUTES. But really Aries could have been talking for those 3 minutes! Now that Aries has his own shrink, he can interrupt after only 15 seconds!

Taurus - Wife wants to go. Ok, Whatever. As long as Taurus get's home in time for their favorite TV show.

Leo - Of course Leo doesn't need help, but their family did say they loved them SO MUCH! (´ω`*)... and then they said something about being worried? Then they mentioned going to a shrink! Idk what that was all about, but if going to a shrink will make Leo Even Better, then sure! Plus Leo read that lots of cool people go to shrinks *^.^*

Scorpio - Scorpio will go, but just to get those hysterical people off his back for a while. He's also vaguely curious to see if this 'shrink' knows anything or if they are just full of sh*t like the rest of them!

Sagittarius - The shrink is a captive audience being paid money to pay attention to Sagittarius' long-winded lectures. Sag attends religiously and it's his favorite part of the week!

Pisces - Somehow Pisces became a shrink! Now they listen to people and make them play with little toys.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Electro said it better than I can.
(In post below)

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posted September 08, 2016 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astrowolf:
Aries - The other day a friend got to talk about Their visit to the shrink for a WHOLE 3 MINUTES. But really Aries could have been talking for those 3 minutes! Now that Aries has his own shrink, he can interrupt after only 15 seconds!

Taurus - Wife wants to go. Ok, Whatever. As long as Taurus get's home in time for their favorite TV show.

Leo - Of course Leo doesn't need help, but their family did say they loved them SO MUCH! (´ω`*)... and then they said something about being worried? Then they mentioned going to a shrink! Idk what that was all about, but if going to a shrink will make Leo Even Better, then sure! Plus Leo read that lots of cool people go to shrinks *^.^*

Scorpio - Scorpio will go, but just to get those hysterical people off his back for a while. He's also vaguely curious to see if this 'shrink' knows anything or if they are just full of sh*t like the rest of them!

Sagittarius - The shrink is a captive audience being paid money to pay attention to Sagittarius' long-winded lectures. Sag attends religiously and it's his favorite part of the week!

Pisces - Somehow Pisces became a shrink! Now they listen to people and make them play with little toys.


Great contribution. Thank you, A.

Let's get this thread off personal attacks and onto Astrology subject matter, which is much more interesting

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posted September 08, 2016 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the triviality of this thread is what caused the disagreement in the OP's motives in the first place. It's not like those threads where she has shown pure disgust for Libra Moons and claimed them to be the most disloyal moon signs in the existence of time along with Gemini and Aquarius Moons. Personally, I've used some of the things that Ami has said in her posts here and there and used them to help me gain a better understanding of astrology, because there are some things said that I can agree with.

The thing that frustrates me though is when an astrologer puts something out, people strongly disagree with it, and as a result, they use excuses to try to defend "the truth" that they've put out. Telling people that you don't follow political correctness and are a truth-seeker doesn't make your point anymore valid just because you are the one who made it, especially when there are many people who disagree with you. It's like saying, "You know what, this thing here, after I read it, says that you're just crap. You should probably accept it now since EVERYTHING I say is right, hahahaha, I'm so good at this."

Yeah, it's obvious that there are life struggles, but it's stupid to say that people are just destined to have these problems and they can never be erased. It stems from a personal issue from not being able to overcome their own struggles, and as a result they use this method to judge other's possible experiences and plant the same ideas into their minds, erasing them of all possible hope so they can sulk as much as they do. I think it's really stupid, and people need to be given hope when they really are struggling so that they can pull through with a positive outcome.

Also, there are times when you have to walk away, but by ignoring everything you are just running from your problems. You choose not to deal with it and as a result you keep dealing with them because you don't want to solve them. Sometimes there are bad apples out there that do pick fights for no reason, but sometimes certain fights exist because there is truly something wrong that's going on, and if you choose to ignore it, you're never going to know what's wrong, so it's going to just stay wrong and stick with you, therefore making you wrong. It's like the idea that Trines have gifts and Squares struggle, but squares can overcome the struggle and achieve more than a trine!

It's like Saturn. Saturn's not going to stop until you learn how to get over it, and it will just keep going until you do get over it, and if you choose not to, prepare to deal with Saturn. Sometimes you have to admit defeat before you can truly succeed, but by giving up, you will achieve nothing.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^
You're my hero right now.
Perfectly said. I regularly enjoy your posts and logic so I had to give it a read.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautifully said Electro DGX.

You can't create a mess and then ignore people when they dare to call you out on your mess.

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posted September 08, 2016 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
"Can't take the heat"?

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posted September 08, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:

Does that mean we're compatible, Liliya?

Hahaha maybe Ami can do our synastry

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