posted March 19, 2014 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
[b] Well obviously those offenders proved they couldn't. You aren't given 3 strikes for nothing AG. If they were serious they would'nt had done what they did.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
What you need to get through your head is he was screwed once he got that first felony, if he had never been charged with that first felony his life would probably be radically different now. And his first two charges got him probation. So he went from probation to life in prison, thats a ridiculous jump!

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posted March 19, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Should have learned after the felony instead of "screw it, I'm ****** anyway"
People can function as felons.
A family member is and they do just fine.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
No one forced him LOL are you saying he was forced now. Someone held a gun to his head and told him to sell drugs and commit his third offence because they said so? Uh no. He was fully aware of what he was doing and now he pays the consequence.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Facepalm... You just dont get it

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posted March 19, 2014 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Clearly you don't get it. We have 3rd penalty charges for a reason. Now he didn't know. He didn't know that he'd go to jail forever? Right his attorney told and he didn't listen.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The point is the 3 strike rule is stupid... And needs to go the way of the dinosaur.. nonviolent Drug charges do not warrant life in prison under any circumstances.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So you think it's okay for people to commit the same crime as many times as they like and spend even more of my money? Why, explain why you feel this way?

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posted March 19, 2014 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
How the f*ck are they spending your money? They are spending your money locking them up for long periods of time.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So you think it's free charging them over and over and over again for the same thing? It costs more money doing that garbage.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
How is it stupid? Explain why it's okay for criminals to commit the same crime over and over again and not learn anything? What planet are you living on? You aren't making any sense. LOL

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posted March 19, 2014 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It costs more money charging them over and over is what I'm saying lol. Think that's pretty clear. Which is why there are 3 strikes. That's more than enough.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You are the one who isn't making any sense.... You are the one who said drug dealers are on the same level as murderers and rapists. Its only a crime because the government says it is.. If they legalized drugs and taxed and regulated them we would be much better off.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:46 PM            

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Because they are. They fuel the problem. They're responsible for mothers not being mothers and getting high in front of their children. For homeless people who'd rather shoot up, really quick then work and provide for their families. They're the cause of more deaths than anything else in our country. If you're gonna quote me, then quote all that I've said. We'd be better off? I don't think so and you better get used to it. We live in reality, not your sick twisted vision.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:47 PM            

I know a lot of the more tolerant people will it say it's for experiment, for fun, because you can and because of peer pressure or because of underlying mental health problems or some trauma. But drugs just aren't the way, the evidence is in that drugs just aren't good; that includes the legally regulated ones. I'm tired of this acceptance and normalisation of drugs. I'm tired of having to keep my mouth closed around peers of my age group and not expressing my intolerance to this crap.

Criminals are irresponsible people, many have mental issues and dysfunctional backgrounds. Many are are simply not empathetic, they are psychopathic, are greedy and really don't give a crap what happens to you!! So why should you care what happens to them? Why the bleeding hearts? They come back to the courts like old friends using up government legal aid funds, taking that risk again, remorse being few and far between.

Oh and you can't use the "Projects Poverty" excuse here in Australia, we have a very entrenched welfare system here for absolutely everything, we have more opportunities to go up the ladder than even the US I would say, I'm an example of that.

posted March 19, 2014 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Facepalm.... You are hopeless.. You believe everything the government tells you

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posted March 19, 2014 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Ignorance is no defence of the law. And let's face it, being that most people on this thread are from the US and me being from Australia, that these countries come from the English way of life, that is, everything is liberal. However, with great liberty is great RESPONSIBILITY. And that's what most of these dealers, users and criminals are. They are simply irresponsible, they expect their excuses to be accepted when they stuff up and they get the acceptance. Society has gone to the toilets, I realise that there will always be users but WHY?

I know a lot of the more tolerant people will it say it's for experiment, for fun, because you can and because of peer pressure or because of underlying mental health problems or some trauma. But drugs just aren't the way, the evidence is in that drugs just aren't good; that includes the legally regulated ones. I'm tired of this acceptance and normalisation of drugs. I'm tired of having to keep my mouth closed around peers of my age group and not expressing my intolerance to this crap.

Criminals are irresponsible people, many have mental issues and dysfunctional backgrounds. Many are are simply not empathetic, they are psychopathic, are greedy and really don't give a crap what happens to you!! So why should you care what happens to them? Why the bleeding hearts? They come back to the courts like old friends, taking that risk again, remorse is few and far between.

Oh and you can't use the "Projects Poverty" excuse here in Australia, we have a very entrenched welfare system here for absolutely everything, we have more opportunities to go up the ladder than even the US I would say, I'm an example of that.

And going back to responsibility I cannot emphasise how this quality in a person is a very critical quality to making a SUCCESSFUL person in society, one that everyone looks up, whether they are rich and materially successful or a pillar in the community. Responsibility is not taught in our generations.

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posted March 19, 2014 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I've witnessed it myself. What world are you living in? You're ridiculous kid. You are the brainwashed one. Looks like someone needs to get out more.

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posted March 19, 2014 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Um i actually have real world experience with drugs and drug users. You just know somebody who knows somebody and trust what you hear on the news.

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posted March 19, 2014 10:03 PM            

So being the master of all knowledge, what do you propose we do?