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BlueTopaz124
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posted September 01, 2009 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I love that and that he showed it to you. It makes me smile.

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posted September 02, 2009 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
BlueTopaz124~
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It makes me smile

Me too.

I just woke up, and missed him online. His greenlight was there, but as I said, "greetings" he was gone. but it's all good. I didn't have much to say anyway. So, yeah...

Happy Days!!

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posted September 02, 2009 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved, I keep checking on your progress and what you have to say about Michael...hoping you two work out!

I know at some level he knows how you feel...he must feel the same way.

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posted September 03, 2009 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
BlueTopaz124~ Thank you for keeping the hope alive! I hope so too.

We have a winner. Birth data acquired!! Finally!!

I haven't looked at it. I am still looking at this Natal chart, but I posted it ASAP.

Asteroids

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posted September 03, 2009 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Holy ****, your angles perfectly conjunct.

Oh this is so ON!!!

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posted September 03, 2009 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
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Oh this is so ON!!!

You just reminded me of a friend of mine.

Yeah, It's Ooooon!!!!

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posted September 03, 2009 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
On the synastry, what stands out is the conjunction between my AC/DC axis and his IC/MC axis, with AC conjunct IC and DC/MC respectively. His Saturn conjuncts My AC, His Sun conjuncts My Vertex. [b]If I count the other axes but won't because it is a conjunction of 4 degrees, then it would have been My Moon conjunct his AC.. OR EVEN his Moon conjunct my DC but 7 degrees is too wide also. [b]


What it represents:

AC~ The Ascendant (or rising sign) is often considered the mask one wears when meeting others. Perhaps it is most aptly thought of as the automatic responses to one's environment. The Ascendant shows our natural defenses and how we cope with day-to-day issues. The energies of the sign and condition of the Ascendant are most overt and obvious to others. The Ascendant shows an individual's first, natural reaction to new people and situations.

DC~the Descendant reflects our relationships with those around us and what we project onto others: what we need from them, want from them, what we are willing to take from them. The Sign that rests on the Descendant, then, reflects the character of our connections with those around us

IC~ the Imum Coeli (or I.C. for short) is the point of the Zodiac at which issues of security and foundation converge. The Sign that rests at the Imum Coeli in your astrological chart, then, reflects your approach to attaining security. If planets come near this angle in an astrological chart, efforts of those planets are concentrated on sustenance and comfort. A very private point in a chart, the efforts made on behalf of the planets near the I.C. may be unfairly ignored. For example, if the Moon falls near the I.C. in someone's chart, they seek emotional connections through their family relationships.

MC~ This point represents your public persona, different from your Ascendant in that it's not exactly about the way you are initially perceived, but more about how your career and social standing reflect upon your place in the world. The Sign that rests at the Medium Coeli in your astrological chart, then, reflects your perceived public persona.

Saturn~ In astrology, Saturn is associated with restriction and limitation. Where Jupiter expands, Saturn constricts. Although the themes of Saturn seem depressing, Saturn brings structure and meaning to our world. Saturn knows the limits of time and matter. Saturn reminds us of our boundaries, our responsibilities, and our commitments. It brings definition to our lives. Saturn makes us aware of the need for self-control and of boundaries and our limits.

Sun~ The Sun is our basic identity, and represents self-realization.

Vertex~ a point of karmic or fated connection. Some consider it a point of "wish fulfillment". It is perhaps most widely used in synastry. The Vertex is said to be activated at major turning points in our lives, most notably when we meet a significant other or end a significant relationship, and some believe it is triggered when there is a birth or death.

~The Conjunctions~

The Math-

  • my Persona/self (AC) (+)(x) his Intimacy/Home (IC)
  • my Partnerships (DC) (+)(x) his Career/Social standing (MC)
  • his Commitment/Fate (SATURN) (+)(x) my Persona/Self (AC)
  • his Identity(SUN) (+)(x) my Fate (VERTEX)


  • my Emotions(MOON) (+)(x) his Persona/Self (AC) wide orb- 4 deg
  • his Emotions(MOON)(+)(x) my Intimacy/Home (IC) too wide an orb-7 deg

    My brief & shoddy Interpretations:

    -My persona and the person I am naturally, i.e. my reactions and my mannerisms are actually "designed" in a way that is inviting to him, in a way that makes him feel at home. My nature allows him to be intimate with me as feel like "family" or how family should feel.

    -My partnerships that are already existent might benefit his career, or the partnership we form might benefit his career and social standing.

    -His commitment and discipline are exercised when dealing with my persona. His protectiveness and authority flourishes when dealing with my self.

    -His identity, his beliefs and his energy increases and adds to the fateful quality of my life. He represents fate and Karma for my present life.


    -My emotions are activated an stimulated by his Persona and his natural reactions to life. His persona touches me on a personal level.

    -His emotions are increase and create my feelings of intimacy toward him, and my intimate space of self stimulates his emotions on a personal level.

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    I copied this from Diana's thread. oneruledbymars said:

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    If someones IC connects to your AC then this would be significant in terms of the relationship and your growth together as well as your reasons for coming together. Perhaps the way you present yourself to the world, the "you" that strangers meet the first time is the same energy that he naturally carries over from past lives, so he is very comfortable with that presentation of yourself and does not try to change that aspect of your energy. I like this connection because its not so annoying as to hold him back from exhibiting the energies of his MC which he is destined to do this lifetime, your ASC while filtering your other energies is not something that you strongly exhibiting in intimate situations, its more of a public type display. Which would be a fun energy to share with each other during public function.
    For you this would just mean that you feel free to be who you are out in public with him because you know he understands you.

    How the energy is manifest and how it affects you is better explained by the sign of conjunctions and the aspects.

    Descendant to the MC, is a reversal polarity of the same energies. Descendant being energies that you attract.
    Do you guys work together?
    Did you meet at work?
    Has your relationship had an impact on your career? Neg or Pos aspects to this would tell more as well as the sign that it is in.
    I look more at Fixed, Muted, and Cardinal to describe how these type energies work because that helps better explain the polarities of energies that must be balanced, again aspects to this would let you know if it is a negative experience or a positive one, karmic, or transformative.
    So much more to it than just an aspect.


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    posted September 06, 2009 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    Just a tiny update - tiny as in, nothing much has happened.

    After I pressured him to get the birth details, I assumed he assumed that I wanted to do a reading for him (not to astro spy on him as this was my motive) so I have been looking at his natal chart, emailing him when I am inspired to do so.

    We haven't said much to each other, and I haven't had the energy for it anyway, so yeah... we're in a dry spell. Yes, a dry spell is a few days/hours of not speaking, in my twisted, little world. I can't help it if I want it all, and if I want it NOW. Unfortunately, I don't have that luxury.

    Anyway, I just want to remain liking him. I know this sounds strange but after reading his chart, it is more cemented that he requires some loyalty, and so I need some patience. The thing is, just as he needs some attention to be satisfied, so do I and well, if I feel neglected I usually just stop communications. He has not neglecting me, far from it, but it sucks that he is in another continent because communications seem rather empty.

    I can't get no, satisfaction" . Oh, I am not depressed about it or anything. I am just seeing the possibilities and I am living the least potential for this union. There is just so much more that could be going on, good or bad- not this neutral, lukewarm stuff.

    Let me post his natal, so you can see what I am dealing with. He has one of those charts that make me say, "You know... I have 12th house action, but thank God I don't have that chart!" I have seriously not seen such a huge case of imagined fears and heaviness(but then I haven't seen that many charts that I cared to analyse as much as this one). Talk about being one's own enemy. I hope he has learned to control his energies though. Wow!



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    posted September 09, 2009 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    Awwwww! I just want to give him a great big hug right now.

    I am looking at his Solar Arcs for the year that he invited me to his house for his birthday party, and what I am seeing is almost heart breaking. This is the time when I had no clue that I liked him.

    Here are the aspects which made me understand the damage that could have been caused to this dear man. Of course, I do not blame myself, but I do empathize deeply.

    In his chart:
    saMars was conjunct nVenus
    saNeptune conjunct nDC
    saNN conjunct nAC
    saUranus conjunct nNeptune

    prVenus semi-square nMars...

    What breaks my heart about all of it is that saNeptune on his DC. Unbeknownst to him, I did feel something, if only briefly before I left his place. He probably called himself delusional and whatever because after that I went on "platonic" mode.

    On that note, let me look at my saNeptune. He's probably over me, if he ever liked me.

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    EighthMoon
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    posted September 16, 2009 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
    Hiya Unmoved,

    How's about a little "care package" from home? Some of his favorite foods/snacks he might be missing, burn him a cd, send him some pics (a few oldies and a few current of you). Just an idea, ya know...

    8th

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    posted September 16, 2009 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
    Herbs and spices are always a good idea for a Korea-based person. Stuff like oregano, rosemary if he's into cooking. You just can't get those things over there. Packet sauces like peppercorn, Indian curry or whatever. Great idea 8th!

    Haha, my mum sent me a huge parcel of cheese and chocolate when I was there, for Christmas. I didn't know what it was and put it under the tree, unfortunately my apartment has under-floor heating like most places there.... haha, nightmare! It was like chocolate/cheese fondue!!

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    posted September 16, 2009 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    That is an excellent idea and I was already thinking of sending a cd of his favourite program which he can't watch there. Excellent idea re: spices. I'm on it. I'm writing a list as we speak.

    This is exciting.

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    posted September 16, 2009 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    quote:
    Haha, my mum sent me a huge parcel of cheese and chocolate when I was there, for Christmas. I didn't know what it was and put it under the tree, unfortunately my apartment has under-floor heating like most places there.... haha, nightmare! It was like chocolate/cheese fondue!!

    Teheh

    Pity!

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    posted September 20, 2009 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    I had just woken up and he happened to be online Today is the day that I was going to go get those spices and herbs. But, I decided to chat to him a bit. As that was happening, I got the idea that he didn't want to talk, which is fine- but the way he said it, "Yeah, go talk to people..." it made me feel angry and hurt.

    So, he aint getting spices, and goodies, just for that statement. How dare he?! So, due to that, I am going to talk to people, yes... people other than him. People who appreciate me and people who would rather have me speak to them than other people!

    Agh!

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    posted September 20, 2009 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
    aww....i wonder why he did that? You'll have to ask him next time you talk. Cheer up! Make the spices for YOU.


    PS- I am very sick. So, i make no sense. Flu or something from being so run down.

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    posted September 20, 2009 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
    hey unmoved. just a thought: maybe he meant it in a jokey way. sometimes it's hard to interpret stuff through email and chat and it can seem to be the opposite of what was meant, you know? do you think that's possible?

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    posted September 20, 2009 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    hey Lady Di

    get well soon, please! You need to be at peak condition, if you know what I mean.

    As for asking him about it. I am not going to talk to him for a while until I feel he deserves to be spoken to. I am cutting him off again for the time being. He was being rude, and I can't stand such, honestly. The nerve!

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    posted September 20, 2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    woah city~ everything is possible. Still, I didn't find it funny. Actually, after that, I said, "mkay" and stopped talking to him. I didn't even say I was going offline, or away from the computer because I was so fed up. After that, he must have logged off because when I finally came online again, he was off.

    My Cancer Moon can't take that cr@p.

    Gosh, I am so mad!

    I was actually about to ask him what the heck that meant, when I decided that I was not going to have an IM fight with someone in Korea. Really! So, I'll talk to him when he comes back.

    Actually, it all started being weird after we were talking about his new laptop, which was very pretty and I was excited for him because I like new shiny electronics. Then he said, "You'll play with it when I get home" Teheh

    I then laughed and told him that it sounded [wrong]... Then he admitted to realizing the unintentional double meaning, and then the conversation went south. Then he just went offline without saying goodbye. I went to sleep.

    After getting up, we chatted for a bit, a little strained, and then I said that I must eat. He agreed saying, "Go eat, Go talk to people..."

    I said, "mkay" and FIN.

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    posted September 21, 2009 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
    Well, it sounded rude at first, but in the context you explained it, it sounds like you're feeling a tad paranoid about being vulnerable with him? Doesn't sound like he had any bad intentions.
    It's so freakin' easy to confuse meanings when you're IMing and texting - I mean, really, if he was there with you and said it, and smiled, and gave you a kiss on the forehead or the cheek, would you still think it was rude? ...
    Of course, this is easier said than done - I am hyper sensitive in general, and it doesn't take much to set me off when I am in love lol

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    posted September 22, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
    Long distance sucks. My advice would be to take it lightly and don't pass any big judgements in any direction till you two are in the same place!

    A tender, touchy Cancer moon lady is also highly intuitive and sensitive to IN PERSON vibes and atmospheres (especially if there's any Pluto business in her chart too.) You won't know what things are REALLY going to be like now (at the stage you're both at) with this guy till you are together in the same place.

    I know it's frustrating.

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    posted September 22, 2009 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message
    O my god this is such a beautiful story .... : ) Send him Prestik. There is no Prestik in Korea and it drives me nuts! (For the uninformed ... you can use Prestik to stick posters on your walls .... I can't see how anyone can be a teacher without it!!!!!) Unmoved, do you know if he is working in a A) Hagwan (A private academy), B) A government school, or C) a university?

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    posted September 22, 2009 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    MVM~ I think it all becomes so irrational when it comes to him. Honestly, I just lose it. so, if you put it that way, yeah... I would have probably just stuck my tongue out at him nd said, "whatever" in a jokey way, and went to eat. But, all I got from that was, "go away."

    Your words helped a lot though. He is no longer cut-off until next year, thanks to you and Lucia.

    *sigh* lol what a trip this has been. I wish it could end now!

    Lucia23~ It is definitely frustrating, and you know what? I should essentially not take anything personally, but that is so difficult. I agree, the only way to suss things out is when he is in my vicinity. I am not too effective over the net with matters of the heart, or even generally. So... it is difficult. The thing is, I don't want to forget him again and remember him when he is in London, or wherever he goes next. I have a habit of being absent-minded. I file things away and forget them, and the importance of these things doesn't change matters much. So, I would rather just not do IM at all, but I will lose touch with him otherwise. We email regularly, on top of IM, but he hates email but he encourages me to write but we have an agreement that he responds whenever, just as I write when I feel like it.

    Again, you have calmed me down. Thanks guys!!

    fatinkerbell~ Re: your question regarding which type of school he teaches, I have no idea. I know that it is young children, therefore it is not a University. I will have to ask him. I am still slightly hurt to send him Prestik, but if he needs it, then it is definitely something I would send him if he ever endears himself to me again, which could happen in a week or so... heheh

    This is what I know of his teaching situation:

    His teaching hours are odd. They seem to happen in the afternoon or night, or something because when it is 7am here, which is 12 midday there, he is still only heading to school, or haven't left for school. He leaves school for home at around 2-3pm South African time, so this is around 9 pm or so in Korea. So it is very strange hours.

    I say this because we sometimes chat during what he calls phone call classes, where the lessons are done via telephone, and this occurs at the end of his school day. This happens at around 2pm S.A time. Then he usually goes home and gets home at around 4pm S.A time. So, I don't know what's cutting there.

    One day he was preparing a class and it involved the different uses of musical instruments... So, it is definitely young kids. I can bet it is primary school kids.

    So... ??? hmmm...

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    posted September 22, 2009 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
    woo! i am glad you're feeling calmer. it's totally hard to not take things personally when your feelings are invested, but i agree, being in person would make interpretation a whole lot easier! it must be really frustrating to have that contact but have it only be letters on a screen; better than nothing but almost worse!

    i hope you two can see eachother soon and share some eye contact and smiles.. i know it's gonna be a while till you can, but it will definitely fill in the gaps for you

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    posted September 22, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
    hey woah city, sweets!

    Thanks, dear. Yeah, I needed some time to breathe.

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    i hope you two can see eachother soon and share some eye contact and smiles..

    I hope so too.

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    posted September 22, 2009 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message
    Hey unmoved! I'm sorry you're still mad at poor Michael but I'm sure he'll learn to eventually worship you like the goddess you are! : D (Seriously, I think maybe all men actually want to worship ay a girl's feet .... anyway, getting side-tracked!) Why I asked the question is because it sort of depends on where you teach in Korea how high your stress levels are. Now I teach in a government school, which means my life is actually very easy. But it sounds like Michael teaches in one of the famous 'academies' - that is where parents send their children AFTER regular school hours, even at night!!, to get MORE education!! Anyway, this is the deepest level of hell in Korea ... working for a private academy ... Well of course there are many exceptions, but think about it like this ... when you're working for the government, like me, your salary is guarenteed no matter what you do. So you can be really lazy and unenthusiastic and you'll just go on like normal and collect your paychecks nice and regular. Private academies however depend on rich or moderately rich or in-debt parents to pay lots of cash for their kids to get their Extra special extra English classes to make them better than the regular schoolkids with a better chance to get into a great university... The problem is, some of these private academies are quite cash-strapped and some (not all) treat their English teachers rather badly ... demanding strange working hours or longer working hours and sometimes not paying them on time and sometimes not giving them their benefits etc. etc. etc. But most of all they place ENORMOUS stress on the private English teachers to work miracles with the kids' English progress. I have personally never worked in a private academy but when I first started I was in an elementary school... Now the students I teach are all teenagers and kinda easy to handle if you know how ... But elementary school kids are exhausting ... and the younger they are the more exhausting they are!! They're like little duracell or energizer bunnies ... they just never stop! Never!! NEVER!!!!! Even me who'se got a nice job am exhausted at the end of the day, so be nice to Michael when in doubt because it can be pretty hard working here ... especially at first. Maybe sometimes when he is a little short with you it's just 'cos he's really really tired. I'm willing to bet my life on that .... seriously!

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