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fatinkerbell
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posted October 10, 2009 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved, I have just one thing to say: He is just that into you!!!!!!

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
So, we speak regularly right, and he has just logged off. During our conversation, he expressed his regret of... well, he is sad to leave Korea in 6 or 5 months from now. He doesn't want to come home.

On that note, he is edging his was closer and closer to the pile labeled, "The One That Got Away" because he expressed that he could renew his contract if he wanted. His challenge though is that if he renewed it, he would be at a different place than the one he is in currently. This doesn't serve him because the relationships he has forged are what he wants to preserve, so renewing the contract and being thrown into a different place would also not work.

Yes, being sad to leave is very understandable because his life was not as eventful as it has been in Korea, so even I want that for him, for him to feel the happiness and fun he has felt there. So, yeah... I can't put my life on hold for him because he might decided to stay there longer and who knows what he does after two years? What if he decides to live there for good.

OR...

Maybe he wanted me to say that he should come back because there is something better for him here, ME but I didn't do that. I mean, maybe he wasn't playing a mind game, and was just expressing sadness of the prospect of leaving, so I remained neutral and listened, and did the Merc in Libra thing and didn't sway him either way. I also couldn't be selfish, really. I can see what Korea has done for his well being and self-confidence. He is a different person there, more liberated and less afraid, so... I care for him enough to want him to be happy without me if that's what I have to do. I do want him to come home though.

I am confused.

I hadn't said much on this thread lately because I've been in agony from missing him and I was sick of whining about it. Yes, it just pains me that he is so far away. I think of him every day and every night and when I am asleep, I dream of him. He is the only thing I long for. So, I want to be in his vicinity somehow. Badly! I miss him so very much that it almost renders me to tears. Yes, lame but true. I feel so deeply about him that longing for him can get to a point where I am a sad case. With that said though, his happiness is still more important that my desires being met. I hoped though that we could hit two birds with one stone and have happiness and a union but it seems like the two could be mutually exclusive... which almost makes me angry. I am not yet angry because I am still in denial that 6 months could increase to be a year and a half.

And guys!! I can't visit him until he asks me to. Unfortunately we are not at a place to do such. I was waiting for his return to declare my love for him properly, but it seems like I might be doing it via Skype because I could be dead in 1 1/2 yrs! Dead! Maybe I should start figuring out how I am going to let him know how much he means to me, via these long-distance mediums. This just messes with my vision, but I am adaptable so I am going to make a plan.

Anyway...

I dunno what the conversation was about to be honest. The conversation was very sad. I was in a good mood before chatting to him and now, although not down, I am like a flat balloon. You know?

I guess, what bothers me is that I don't like to see/feel him sad. I really don't like it. It makes me sad. He was definitely sad and what really made me feel helpless is that I couldn't hug him, or do something that would comfort him. These limitations are infuriating!

Bollocks!!!

Actually, I have no idea. I am going to sleep. I have meetings. It's truly time I get out of this love thing and get productive because I am going to lose it even further than I have already lost it. I am not depressed about this in a way that I am capable of getting depressed. I am just in a weird mood now, like... I dunno. I'm in limbo. Yes, this whole renewal of contract business is probably going to hit me properly later.

But, I did want to tell him that it won't be bad if he came home because I would be here and that I would do my best to make things better, but I couldn't say that because we are not that advanced in our dealings. We are still pretending to be acquaintances so it wouldn't have been appropriate to say, "Come back because I miss you" even though I have said that I missed him before, but when I told him he froze, so I am not saying that again soon. It is just that, this is a big decision that should be made by him and him alone. I dunno... I can't be responsible for his decision in case I break his heart when he gets back, or whatever. So, it is all up to him what he decides to do, and I will try to live with it.

I wish there was at least some sort of romantic relationship established between us, so that we could brain-storm about this, but right now, my hands are tied. If we were romantically inclined, I could have made sacrifices, of say spending half my time between here and Korea, or something. Or, I would work so bleddy hard here that I would be able to take flights once every 3 months or something to visit for a week each time, or something!! I dunno. I suspect that I am not being very realistic here.

Ugh! I just want him home!

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Diana
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posted October 16, 2009 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
ahhh, this sucks!

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
After that long-winded speech, I decided to look at transits when (edit: IF) he returns, which is now APRIL, and not March.

On the 17th of April:

He is having:
His tVenus conjunct his nVenus (Venus Return.)
His prMars conjunct his nVenus
His saUranus sesquiquadrate his nVenus

so his Venus is going to be activated a bit.

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Di.

Totally sucks!!!

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jon
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posted October 16, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jon     Edit/Delete Message
Taw man i start from page 1 get to 8 and bam! Things turn south what a journey. Best of luck. At least he hasn't made a decision so. . you still have hope?!. . . least until his contract runs out.

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jon
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posted October 16, 2009 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jon     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm sorry was meant to right time! You still have time, until his contract expires and he decides to extend it.

jon

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted October 16, 2009 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
(((Unmoved)))

Have you ever considered that you are influencing him more by NOT telling him how you feel about him?

Think about it...you have some knowledge that could change everything for him, and you are withholding it. What if the reason he's not interested in coming home really IS because he doesn't think there is anything there for him, like you suggested? Then your withholding is also influencing, because with that information he could make a better informed decision.

By not telling him, your relationship is not in balance, there is unequal power, because you know something he doesn't.

Just something to consider...there's always more than one way to look at a situation.

TELL HIM! Just my .02

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
jon~ hey there. Lovely to meet you! Think of this as a movie, and this is the part where things go sour, the darkest hour before the dawn.

Star~ Girl, I hear ya, but... I am not sure. So, I am in the middle of thinking about this one. I will think long and hard about it. I just had a certain way in which I had envisioned it, so... I am in the middle of drafting plan B.

hmmm...

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stopandstare
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posted October 16, 2009 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stopandstare     Edit/Delete Message
unmoved: there's nothing wrong with being honest. sometimes you gotta put yourself on the line. there may never be a good time to say it. things can change quickly in a few months. this whole world could come to an end. he can be offered a permanent job there. who knows? just be yourself and be honest. you don't have to profess your dying love, but just be cool about it and be like well, i'd love it if you came home. he'll only be the one who got away if you let him get away. we're all pulling for you but you do what you feel is best for you and you feel comfortable with. best of luck and i'm sorry you feel so torn over this. i see a happy ending this spring i really do!

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted October 16, 2009 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Ok. That's fair. Just don't take forever if you decide to tell him...time waits for no one.

I foresee a happy ending in this situation too.

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
stopandstare ~ Hey there.

Yes, he has to know that it would mean a lot to me if he came back, but I have to do it in a way that isn't overwhelming. I'll tell you how I do it when I have done it.

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just be yourself and be honest.

This is the best policy!

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Star ~ I am on top of it. I started the email yesterday and have just sent it before I read stopandstare's response.

I did it in the best way I could in an email context, without being soppy, and made it humorous (tried to). But, now I wonder if making it humorous was a good idea because he just might not take it seriously.

Anyway, we speak almost daily so I will amend it.

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Azalaksh
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posted October 16, 2009 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, email declarations
Do tell more
Just a thought -- none of us know whether we will be here tomorrow. Health, and life, are such fragile things..... I believe in telling the people you care about, that you care about them
You know me -- heart on my sleeve
Note: keeping your "pride" and swallowing your tongue (fingers/keyboard) until you believe the "right time" has come, can be a real lonely place.....

Love,
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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Zala!

Easier said than done. More than that, I just don't know how I would do such, especially through an email. Actually, I write better than I speak, so... who knows...

No, this email was NOT a declaration of love. It was a protestation of him renewing his contract. I'm still not sure, or as pumped as I was a few months ago when I just started speaking to him again.

There is so much at stake. I don't want to mess up again with him, as in... I can't risk declaring my love and then lose interest a few months later. Also, I need to be sure. The last time I tried, he went to Korea!! So...

Anyway, yeah... this mail was just laid back, and as Star said, between the lines talk, letting him know in a humorous, flirty way that I would like him to come home as soon as he can.

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Diana
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posted October 16, 2009 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Where is it?

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Unmoved
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posted October 16, 2009 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
He replied to the email. More immediate than I had anticipated.

Firstly, he expressed how he loved the email. I bet he did! With all the 'come home' stuff, he must have felt really good. I am glad though. One man's pain is another's pleasure, eh? I think the email ranks similar to the one I wrote when I was freaking out about the state of Korea. He said that he was coming back and is not renewing the contract yet. I swear I didn't dream this! If it was ethical I would paste the entire IM and show you how he said it, because you would need context to get it, so I can't just paste the line he wrote.

Anyway, even further, he has invited (opened option for) me to visit him when he gets back. He just said I can come down for a visit to Cape Town when he returns... but he said it in a more plan of action way because he even thought that maybe I could meet him at Johannesburg airport if I was up to it, before he went to Cape Town, but then he expressed that this could be impractical.

Then he said:

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Anyways, I find this is the kind of email that I really don't enjoy writing 'cause I prefer conversing face to face with my explanations.
This was said at the end of the email. I edited for grammar but moral of the story is that he had something to explain that he probably summarized?

So, I think he was trying to freak me out yesterday. Aries games??? Hmmm... but I am relieved.

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posted October 16, 2009 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message

I was still typing, dagnabbit!

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Diana
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posted October 17, 2009 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
yay!

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 17, 2009 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Goooooo UNMOVED!!!

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted October 17, 2009 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Yay! I knew it, I just knew it.

Now you've got the man so excited that he is coming up with crazy, impractical Arian plans to see you as soon as he hits the continent, by having you meet up with him in convoluted ways.

This sounds VERY promising Unmoved!

::high five::

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EighthMoon
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posted October 17, 2009 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
YYYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!

Now get that package in the mail!

xo

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Unmoved
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posted October 18, 2009 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I sent him this song, without thinking I just sent it. It is one of my all time favorite songs. I was listening to my music and I hadn't listened to it in a long time, and I thought to share.

Then... I put myself in his shoes after having sent it, imagined myself receiving such a song and how I would interpret it. And... well... I wonder.

Here is the song:

Madeleine Peyroux - Between The Bars

Lyrics:

Drink up, baby
Stay up all night
Things you could do
You won't but you might

The potential you'll be
You'll never see
Promises you'll only make
Drink up with me now
And forget all about
Pressure of days
Do what I say
And I'll make you okay
And drive them away
Images stuck in your head

People you've been before
That you don't want around anymore
That push and shove and won't bend to your will
I’ll keep them still

Drink up, baby
Look at the stars.
And I'll kiss you again
Between the bars
Where I'm seeing you there
With your hands in the air
Waiting to finally be caught

Drink up one more time
And I'll make you mine
And keep you apart
Deep in my heart
Separate from the rest
Where I like you the best
Keep the things you forgot

The people you've been before
That you don't want around anymore
That push and shove and won't bend to your will
I'll keep them still

I sent him an mp3 and a longer version I think... I also sent him the cover of this song by Metric.

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posted October 22, 2009 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message
Sweet : )

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posted October 23, 2009 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
After that long-winded speech, I decided to look at transits when (edit: IF) he returns, which is now APRIL, and not March.

No, no. Look at your pregressed synastry. This always tells the story. Are either of your pMoon moving to conjunct the other's nSun? Or maybe a Sun/Venus aspect is coming into exactness. Or a Masculine/Feminine planetary dynamic waxing apart/separating?

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