posted April 20, 2013 02:38 PM            

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1) Both videos dealt with beauty...human beauty and natural beauty (as described in color.) Is that a coincidence of does it tie in with Eris ruling Libra somehow?

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I believe it does. In the mythology of Eris, beauty/love is always involved. In the story of the apple, she was snubbed from an arranged marriage. Arranged not because Peleus and Thetis loved each other, but because Zeus and Poseidon (despite desiring her), heard a prophecy that Thetis would give birth to a son more powerful than his father. Out of fear for their own place in the pantheon, they forced her to wed a mortal. This is the first of many discords based on "love" in the story of Eris.

Next, Eris creates an apple (symbolic of the heart) inscribed with the message "To the most beautiful". This apple starts a chain reaction which results in one of the largest massacres of that time. It is the distraction so sweet, which inspires even the gods to fight amongst themselves. Had they each been secure in their own beauty by understanding the circumstantial nature of beauty, they would have never fought to the point of ruin, for a stupid trinket.

Then the remaining goddesses to squabble over the apple represent the archetypes of Beauty, Marriage, and Wisdom. I feel these archetypes are at odds within the process of astrological Eris. What we perceive aesthetically (or value) is at odds with wisdom (Athena was the daughter of Saturn so this is not only wisdom, but reason) and the ability to be receptive (Hera also ruled the yin archetype)/marry with the truth of the situation (desire for the object and ignorance of the lesson behind that desire, resulting in a disconnection with reality or "discord").

Finally Aphrodite tricks Paris into naming her the fairest, by insinuating he may have a chance to take her as his bride. After discovering she had tricked him, he chooses the next most beautiful woman on his list and starts the Trojan War.

In the short piece of work describing Eris as an instigator, the examples used are "Venus-based" concepts:
"So, after all, there was not one kind of Strife alone, but all over the earth there are two. As for the one, a man would praise her when he came to understand her; but the other is blameworthy: and they are wholly different in nature.
For one fosters evil war and battle, being cruel: no man loves her; but perforce, through the will of the deathless gods, men pay harsh Strife her honour due.
But the other is the elder daughter of dark Night (Nyx), and the son of Cronus who sits above and dwells in the aether, set her in the roots of the earth: and she is far kinder to men. She stirs up even the shiftless to toil; for a man grows eager to work when he considers his neighbour, a rich man who hastens to plough and plant and put his house in good order; and neighbour vies with his neighbour as he hurries after wealth. But Strife is unwholesome for men. And potter is angry with potter, and craftsman with craftsman, and beggar is jealous of beggar, and minstrel of minstrel." - Hesiod

She inspires us to look at our neighbor's accomplishments and desire to become more accomplished. This is grossly exploited by the advertising industry now days, "don't you want what she has?", "all you need is this outfit and you will be the most fulfilled person on the subway!", "You would be the coolest person in the club if you just owned this phone with an apple logo on the back (Yay Eris LOL).", "look at how many more friends, toys, and adventures these people have than you". Here is another example of Eris in action (and part of the reason Eris seems in detriment in Aries) Advertising assumes we are all successful individuals (or damaged, aspiring successful individuals) seeking to amass individual greatness. Of course there is advertising for families and non-individual entities, but advertising thrives on then taking those families and pinning them against each other by supporting the differences between physical gender, age, and rank. Wives have these goals and interests, mothers have these goals and interests, husbands have these goals and interests, fathers have these goals and interests, sons have these goals and interests, brothers have these goals and interests, daughters have these goals and interests, sisters have these goals and interests, etc. Part of those interests thrive on being individual and at odds with the other members of the family, "Wives, don't you just hate it when your husband does this?", "If he really loves you, he will you our product.", "boys play with guns and girls play dress up because they want to learn to look pretty.", Husbands, don't you just want to spend time away from your wife and kids, watching sports, in your very own man cave?". etc.. Eris in Aries is so focused on individuality it can completely overlook the whole point of why others are important. It also perpetuates a stereotype which makes people feel as if they are failing at our role in society, that we are never enough as we are. Without society telling us we must fit certain roles in order to be successful humans (which is driven in large part by capitalism) what kind of society would we have, I wonder?

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Originally posted by Faith:
2) Does Eris in Aries explain the unprecendented genocide of the past century...where the "explanatory gap" has been filled in with war/Aries energy? Maybe?

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I don't believe war is exclusive to Eris in Aries BUT, WW1 (1914–1918) started at the very end of Eris in Pisces (1914 Eris in Pisces 27) and WW2 (1939 to 1945) ushered in the first degrees of Eris in Aries (Eris in Aries 4 degrees), along with the development of nuclear weaponry. Eris jumps between Pisces and Aries from 1922-1926 and these were the times when the consequences of WW1 were weighing heavily on countries like Germany. Fascism also began to emerge and take hold during this time (which sounds ironically Arian ), and the first steps toward WW2 were made. on the Pisces/Aries cusp, humans began using airplanes and tanks in war, developed nuclear weapons, and one of the largest genocides in known human history took place. It also ended in the division and awarding of Israel to the Jews, from the Palestinians (which is a major factor in the wars we fight today). I haven't even researched environmentalism and industrial growth for those dates (I cringe).

posted April 22, 2013 02:30 PM            

I've been meaning to thank you for taking the time out a few months ago to talk to me extensively about raw foods and 80-10-10. The more I've been experimenting with it, the more dazzled I am by how much better I could feel, if I keep going in this direction. I've been juicing/Master Cleansing exclusively for the past ten days. 'Coming off the MC with fresh orange juice today. It really has been an amazing education, in how much lighter and brighter I can feel. We bought a Vita-Mix & are looking at dehydrators; got some raw food recipe books. This will be my main hobby for a while, and I'm really excited about it (though just hungry as I type this!)

I'm 5'6" and currently weigh about 100 pounds; that's part of the reason I've been on the computer less these past few days. Feeling too "ethereal" and sensitive for the bombardment of news and everyone's energy coming through.

So anyway...thank you again, our conversation was not in vain, and I'm feeling much better.

*bowing with my hands together*

Thank you! <3

Now back to Eris...

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Next, Eris creates an apple (symbolic of the heart) inscribed with the message "To the most beautiful". This apple starts a chain reaction which results in one of the largest massacres of that time. It is the distraction so sweet, which inspires even the gods to fight amongst themselves. Had they each been secure in their own beauty by understanding the circumstantial nature of beauty, they would have never fought to the point of ruin, for a stupid trinket.

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As you said, the further out the planets get, the harder to articulate what it's about. So, for one thing, Eris is about learning to value oneself, one's inner beauty, regardless of how it's apparently perceived by others or compares with others' beauty?

Maybe this is connected to yoga, Buddhism, mindfulness practices spreading and reaching even common people nowdays? Wild guess...

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What we perceive aesthetically (or value) is at odds with wisdom (Athena was the daughter of Saturn so this is not only wisdom, but reason) and the ability to be receptive (Hera also ruled the yin archetype)/marry with the truth of the situation (desire for the object and ignorance of the lesson behind that desire, resulting in a disconnection with reality or "discord").

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I'm trying to swallow all that, but it's not totally computing. Is this about beauty throwing everything into discord because people may prize it unthinkingly, and rank it above all else?

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
She inspires us to look at our neighbor's accomplishments and desire to become more accomplished.

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Sorry for all the questions, feel free to ignore whatever doesn't interest you. I'm just curious-- would the house placement suggest in what area of life we may be prone to this? Like, with my 9H Eris (conjunct Jupiter), I'm most impressed by people who are spiritual and most goaded to step up my efforts to snap out of brain fog by seeing others with clear minds, open hearts.

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"all you need is this outfit and you will be the most fulfilled person on the subway!"

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ROTFL =D

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Here is another example of Eris in action (and part of the reason Eris seems in detriment in Aries) Advertising assumes we are all successful individuals (or damaged, aspiring successful individuals) seeking to amass individual greatness....

Eris in Aries is so focused on individuality it can completely overlook the whole point of why others are important.

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I'm blinking at the screen wondering why you didn't tell me why others are important, then I realized I should just come up with my own reasons. =)

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Without society telling us we must fit certain roles in order to be successful humans (which is driven in large part by capitalism) what kind of society would we have, I wonder?

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That's a good question. I wonder if it would even still be a cohesive "society" or just anarchy.

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Since that time, war has become a refined art where facing consequences is reduced...

Today's war is a caricature of the subtleties of wars past, and that (I believe) is the point of Eris, to drive us to such extremes that we either wake up, or ruin ourselves.

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Thanks for all of that, it's clicking and sticking in my head a little better now. 'Still have to let it stew a bit before I feel like I've *got* it.

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Xiiro: ...if you just owned this phone with an apple logo on the back (Yay Eris LOL)."

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posted April 26, 2013 07:16 PM            

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Happy Monday =)
I've been meaning to thank you for taking the time out a few months ago to talk to me extensively about raw foods and 80-10-10...

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I am jealous of your Vita-Mix, though that reminds me of the best juice in the WORLD I made a couple days ago. 1 whole watermelon and 1 whole cantaloupe. Blend and strain through wire strainer or cheese cloth until there is no pulp. Refrigerate until nice and cold and then drink it all up. It tastes like nothing I have tasted before, as sweet as soda (ooOOoo I'll have to try it over soda water). Reminds me of drinking a Bloody Mary (maybe I'll add blood orange next time hmm).

*bowing deeply, a lotus for you*

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Originally posted by Faith:
Maybe this is connected to yoga, Buddhism, mindfulness practices spreading and reaching even common people nowdays? Wild guess...

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As an archetype (I think) Eris doesn't care if you learn to value yourself or not. She just wants to put us in situations of increasingly exaggerated paradox. She doesn't want to push us to a point of crash and burn which ends the paradox. Her job is to create disconnect, so the further she can push us into unrealistic views as the world crashes around our ears, the better she is doing her job. Eris is not a nemesis though, because she doesn't force us into paradox, she just sets the stage. Our reaction to Eris is what results in ruin or a valuable experience. That's why I agree mindfulness is connected to Eris, because it equips us with tools for seeing disconnection deeply and responding skillfully. With mindfulness, we perceive the disconnected nature of the world, but our response is not to the try to battle that separation with fear, control, drama, or material/sensual inundation. Instead mindfulness opens our eyes to acceptance. We accept FIRST that fear lead us to believe war would result in peace (for example), then we challenge our control and fear by treating others peacefully (approaching the world contrarily to the rules established by our fear and control).

Libra is the point on the zodiacal path, when everything we have come to believe through our "internal" experiences, is challenged by the inclusion of an "external" factor. Libra responds by putting on a pretty face and dancing a pretty dance; he uses Venus/attraction/value/quality/sensuality to close the gap. Elevated Libra embodies the concept of mindfulness, Libra sees things perfectly. Without acceptance this leads to reactionary delusion, repression, ignorance, and obsession with flaws and disconnection. With acceptance all things become perfectly natural as they are. Libra stops choreographing dances to dodge and weave the truth of what life presents them and instead steps into the swirls and flows of the universal current (giving way to Scorpio).

So in summary yes, Eris can be about learning to value one's self, regardless of how we assume others perceive us. It can just as easily use our desire to value ourselves as a way to overlook humility and push others away. She is a tricky lady.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Is this about beauty throwing everything into discord because people may prize it unthinkingly, and rank it above all else?

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would the house placement suggest in what area of life we may be prone to this? Like, with my 9H Eris (conjunct Jupiter), I'm most impressed by people who are spiritual and most goaded to step up my efforts to snap out of brain fog by seeing others with clear minds, open hearts.

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I'm blinking at the screen wondering why you didn't tell me why others are important, then I realized I should just come up with my own reasons. =)

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If your left hand picks up a sword and cuts off your right hand, your left hand doesn't suffer directly from the pain. It does then live out its entire life doing all the right hand's work. This is because they are both responsible for similar jobs on the same body. The same happens with, other living things. When we inflict pain on others, we don't suffer directly from that pain, but we then go on living our entire lives paying for our actions in other ways. We are as connected to others as hands are connected to one body, even if we work independently or have different functions than other parts, we still are still born from the same source. At least that's my take on things.

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What a coincidence! Or is it...? What's that word for weird little things that line up like that? Synchronicity?

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posted May 03, 2013 08:33 AM            

Helloooo there!

Please tell me, how many mothers (that you know) were in the hospital and are they well now? Your mom's okay?

Exes freaking out on facebook sounds very interesting and funny if (hint) you want to spill a few more beans? I'm not on facebook, so my only view into FB world is via gossip.

My apologies for the slow turnaround ....guess what I've been up to? My Sag son and I have been commuting to the Chesapeake for sailing lessons! It's been a wonderful time. Especially when it was foggy and raining... must be my Irish blood thinking it was home again. =) And my son's slightly diluted Irish blood loved the rain, too. There were few other boats out on the bay and the sailing instructors kept lamenting the horrible weather, but strangely enough I loved being out in a storm. And getting soaked to the bone and freezing set the stage for my huge relief upon changing into dry clothes...was that not an Eris experience? The kernel of the good (loving my dry clothes) within the bad (sopping wet, clingy jeans.)

Am I getting it yet? =) 'Not sure if I am. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I even want to...part of me must be reluctant to put a "case closed" sign on the mystery of Eris because that would seem to run contrary to the little bit of Eris I do grasp: it's a far-out trickster, a sleight-of-hand thing that maybe can even make order and chaos two sides of the same coin. What I'm getting from you is, it's a matter of individual perspective (though even that is, fractal-like, part of the communal perspective....dizzyingly enough.)

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That's why I agree mindfulness is connected to Eris, because it equips us with tools for seeing disconnection deeply and responding skillfully. With mindfulness, we perceive the disconnected nature of the world, but our response is not to the try to battle that separation with fear, control, drama, or material/sensual inundation. Instead mindfulness opens our eyes to acceptance. We accept FIRST that fear lead us to believe war would result in peace (for example), then we challenge our control and fear by treating others peacefully (approaching the world contrarily to the rules established by our fear and control).

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Thank you, that sheds a nice bright light on it. And my knee-jerk mental reaction here was to think of how hard it is to sit and learn to be at peace with fear...to resolve or hold the tension within. Also, I'm reminded of how beneficial change can be terribly painful, how healing can bring crisis, how love can be destructive...all kinds of paradoxes where we kind of teeter (Libra-like!) between seeing an experience as desirable or undesirable.

I think I might be getting it now...as you said:

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Elevated Libra embodies the concept of mindfulness, Libra sees things perfectly. Without acceptance this leads to reactionary delusion, repression, ignorance, and obsession with flaws and disconnection. With acceptance all things become perfectly natural as they are. Libra stops choreographing dances to dodge and weave the truth of what life presents them and instead steps into the swirls and flows of the universal current (giving way to Scorpio).

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I love that.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Even more so I think it is about being lead, against even our better judgment, into ignorant destruction over a silly bauble (the bauble can be any misunderstanding we adhere to as truth).

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Do you think that one reason mindfulness and meditation are so potentially healing is, they free us from thinking, which is inevitably tainted and impure (full of dubious judgements/misunderstandings)?

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Conjunct Jupiter, we may be particularly inspired by random "Santa Clause" type figures, good hearted and giving uncle or professor figures. We may also envy others for their luck, seeing others as more fortunate than us.

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Yes, I think I've always had to have some kind of larger-than-life teacher in mind, like a lighthouse helping me determine where to go. It's been a challenge to think of how I have to be my own lighthouse, but in recent months it's actually struck me as more of a golden opportunity. Liberation within aloneness.

And maybe others with Eris-Jupiter do envy others for their luck, but for the most part I consider myself wildly, supernaturally fortunate. Maybe others don't see me that way but...well, it's all a matter of how WE see our lives, right? =) I guess it's my Jupiter trine 5H Neptune. Even if I'm not having fun, Neptune doesn't always catch on to the fact. lol

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Spiritual, religious, philosophical, faith driven, educational, and freedom loving impulses can be strong factors in our disconnection with the universe (as well as paths to resolving our estrangements).

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Damn you're making me choke up again. That's exactly right.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Just like a flower has many parts with different functions, so does the universe. That is one of the ultimate paradoxes Eris torments the human race with, the view that we are all alone in a universe filled with objective selves.

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Have I said this before, that you should write a book? Seems I have mentioned that once or twice. =)

I love thinking of the universe as a flower. For days I will be tinkering with the concept for fun...what's the pollen in this analogy, and are there "seasons" with cosmic vibration, and are supernovas the blossoms, and black holes where the seeds go?

*dreamily smiling out at the blue sky*

*snapping out of it because my stomach's growling*

It's getting time for breakfast...good time to segway into food topics...

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I get food worry (All the Virgo and 6th house I guess), when food doesn’t make me feel healthy/happy, I instinctively worry I am harming myself.

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Uh huh, my 6H sun feels the same way.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I am jealous of your Vita-Mix...

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I hope you get one eventually, it really is super fun. I have wanted one for years but felt like it would be too extravagant of a purchase. (My Jupiter is conjunct Chiron, maybe that applies.) Then when the sun was transiting my Jupiter (not Chiron yet) last month, I walked into my local grocery store and there was a Vita-Mix demo going on! It just felt like fate. The demo guy was handing out those wee dixie cups full of samples which I suspect were laced with Vita-Mix love potion. When the demo guy produced "mint chocolate chip ice cream" with ice, spinach, avocado, peppermint flavor, agave nectar, and mini chocolate chips, it was like eating a successful experiment in alchemy and I just couldn't contain my consumer compulsion one minute longer! It even came with promotional "freebies" like spatulas and extended warranty...an offer I couldn't refuse.

This is the most I have loved an inanimate object since I got a Chubble for Christmas when I was little.

I will definitely try the watermelon and cantaloupe, sounds perfect! Today's big blender adventure is about making ranch dressing with cashews, herbs and spices (thanks to one Jennifer Cornbleet whose name reminds me of corn-on-the-cob that talks like a goat. I tell you these things because I see you as one of the few who can relate to extremely random mental effluence.) I've lapsed into an almost surreal obsession with ranch dressing ever since I did that juice fast. Maybe because it's the liquid opposite of lemonade: thick, salty, and speckled versus thin, sweet and uniformly shaded. (?)

I think I'll have orange bell pepper slices with ranch dressing for breakfast or maybe a bowl of ranch dressing soup if it comes to that point of desperation over longing for more and more of the taste.

I wonder if Eris is connected to eating and this conundrum I have of wanting to obtain health by eating junk or sometimes even use health food in a self-destructive way.

Do you have any opinion of which planets affect our eating style? Aside from all placements in Taurus/2H? Hmm, maybe it's the transiting stellium in Taurus making me a glutton lately. =)

As always, begging your pardon if I've tested your patience with too many questions.

Hope you have a great weekend! Happy eating, especially.

posted May 07, 2013 09:49 PM            

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So cute! I love that guy's voice and will probably be hearing it inside my head whenever I think about Pluto now. Takes the edge off. =)

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Please tell me, how many mothers (that you know) were in the hospital and are they well now?

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Exes freaking out on facebook sounds very interesting and funny if (hint) you want to spill a few more beans?

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Sorry if it sounds cold, I have difficulty with people who destroy their lives repeatedly and blame it on everyone else. At this point I am fairly positive he should seek psychological help. There is nothing a relationship can do for him that will fix whatever he is struggling with.

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Originally posted by Faith:
My Sag son and I have been commuting to the Chesapeake for sailing lessons! It's been a wonderful time. Especially when it was foggy and raining... must be my Irish blood thinking it was home again. =) And my son's slightly diluted Irish blood loved the rain, too. There were few other boats out on the bay and the sailing instructors kept lamenting the horrible weather, but strangely enough I loved being out in a storm. And getting soaked to the bone and freezing set the stage for my huge relief upon changing into dry clothes...was that not an Eris experience? The kernel of the good (loving my dry clothes) within the bad (sopping wet, clingy jeans.)

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Originally posted by Faith:
a sleight-of-hand thing that maybe can even make order and chaos two sides of the same coin. What I'm getting from you is, it's a matter of individual perspective (though even that is, fractal-like, part of the communal perspective....dizzyingly enough.)

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Originally posted by Faith:
And my knee-jerk mental reaction here was to think of how hard it is to sit and learn to be at peace with fear...to resolve or hold the tension within. Also, I'm reminded of how beneficial change can be terribly painful, how healing can bring crisis, how love can be destructive...all kinds of paradoxes where we kind of teeter (Libra-like!) between seeing an experience as desirable or undesirable.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you think that one reason mindfulness and meditation are so potentially healing is, they free us from thinking, which is inevitably tainted and impure (full of dubious judgements/misunderstandings)?

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The basic energy of Eris is attachment now that I think of it. There is a common Buddhist saying, "Holding on to anger is like holding on to a hot coal, with the intention of throwing it at your enemy". The goddess Eris holds on to the hot coal and chucks it at her enemies in the form of a golden apple. Had she been a goddess less driven by attachment, the whole chain reaction of chaos and destruction would have never come about. That is the much less complicated point of Eris, giving way to our attachments regardless of the consequences.

Here is Zen teacher John Daido Loori's explanation of attachment (see any similarities to the paradox/Libra concepts we have been discussing?): "According to the Buddhist point of view, nonattachment is exactly the opposite of separation. You need two things in order to have attachment: the thing you’re attaching to, and the person who’s attaching. In nonattachment, on the other hand, there’s unity. There’s unity because there’s nothing to attach to. If you have unified with the whole universe, there’s nothing outside of you, so the notion of attachment becomes absurd. Who will attach to what?"

And who then are we chucking the apple at?

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I guess it's my Jupiter trine 5H Neptune. Even if I'm not having fun, Neptune doesn't always catch on to the fact. lol

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Originally posted by Faith:
I love thinking of the universe as a flower. For days I will be tinkering with the concept for fun...what's the pollen in this analogy, and are there "seasons" with cosmic vibration, and are supernovas the blossoms, and black holes where the seeds go?

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Originally posted by Faith:
When the demo guy produced "mint chocolate chip ice cream" with ice, spinach, avocado, peppermint flavor, agave nectar, and mini chocolate chips, it was like eating a successful experiment in alchemy and I just couldn't contain my consumer compulsion one minute longer!

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thanks to one Jennifer Cornbleet whose name reminds me of corn-on-the-cob that talks like a goat.

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Careful with cashews. It's not that they're poison or anything, they are just such a treat for vegans that we tend to overdo them. I have a friend who makes vegan cheese for a living (vegan-cheese monger?) and it's mostly nut based. yummy, but not specifically healthy. =C http://www.heidihoveganics.com/

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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you have any opinion of which planets affect our eating style? Aside from all placements in Taurus/2H? Hmm, maybe it's the transiting stellium in Taurus making me a glutton lately. =)

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I hope your week has been well =)

posted May 08, 2013 02:53 PM            

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Lmao! It reminded me of me! I can be pretty chilly when I'm done with someone. People have called me cruel even! Though, they were crying and also threatening to strangle me if they ever saw me again (them having moved to a city many hours away).

Where does that lie within our charts? Is it the manticore Venumars combo?

Faith;

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Lmao! It reminded me of me! I can be pretty chilly when I'm done with someone. People have called me cruel even! Though, they were crying and also threatening to strangle me if they ever saw me again (them having moved to a city many hours away).

Where does that lie within our charts? Is it the manticore Venumars combo?

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I know I have a cruel side and as I have gotten older (and planets have progressed) that has mellowed out A LOT. I used to burn bridges like troll in an ice storm. I had the capacity to be so empathically warm and at the same time so scathingly cold. Having Moon in Virgo makes the transition from adoringly enamored to "wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire" pretty seamless. I am never that way for little reason though. I endure a lot from people and I think that may be why it is my habit to be exceedingly brutal once offended beyond repair. A person has to really disrespect me and murder my dog before I decapitate them with one swift stroke of my tail.

=D

First I was like:

Then I was all:

posted May 08, 2013 04:44 PM            

Not only that but the Zone he rules/guards, he created a massive library for the residents to live in and did his best to keep them happy, but they eventually grew more and more demanding and he lost his mind, possessing and hiding in a cat.

I'm like yes it's exactly me.

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This makes me laugh too because it reminds me...my friend and I used to have this inside joke where I meet, romance, then break up with someone every two weeks because I used to do that a lot online...especially through social media websits like tumblr.

"So remember Jason from tumblr..."
"Omg no you didn't"

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I kinda want to meet someone who's the reverse manticore...Leo Venus, Scorpio Mars...

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My bestie in high school was Cancer Sun/Taurus Moon/Leo Venus.

posted May 09, 2013 08:09 AM            

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Faith;

I used to be in contact with sand but he recently decided that his experience with Lindaland and with everyone from Lindaland was concluded, so he said goodbye to everyone he kept in contact with, me included. SO! The thought was sweet, but he's sort of unreachable unless he decides to drop in and sees your well wishes.

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Thank you for explaining. So he just gave everyone the chop because they are from Lindaland? That's weird to me.

Sand, if you're reading this, knock off the drugs or cases of Diet Coke or whatever.

I missed a lot of whatever he did to get banned, but it seems like we are all expected to have seen everything, including what he said under all of his aliases.

*shrug*

Forum life is like an asylum sometimes.

Xiiro

Thanks for the post! Enlightening as usual, gives me lots to chew on, much appreciated. 'Will get back to you soon.

All the best to both of you.

posted May 14, 2013 09:23 AM            

How are you? I'm sorry I lied about writing "soon" when it wasn't very soon after all. I have just felt oddly untalkative lately. I couldn't figure out why, just by applying my rudimentary grasp of astrology to the regular transits (unless the Taurus stellium squaring my ASC was that significant?) So I went ahead and checked my progressed chart and solar arcs and, in my fumbling way, emerged with a "diagnosis": I feel that my solar arc Mercury in Pisces, conjunct my natal moon, explains everything.

Do you look at solar arcs much?

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His name is Ze Frank and he may be one of my favorite people on the internet.

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Hilarious! That guy's sense of humor reminds me so much of yours, and since I have never heard your voice, as I was watching it, I kept thinking it was you talking.

Were you also waiting for him to start cracking jokes about the Egyptians calling dung beetles sacred?

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Scarabaeus sacer is the most famous of the scarab beetles.[7] To the Ancient Egyptians, S. sacer was a symbol of Khepri, the early morning manifestation of the sun god Ra, from an analogy between the beetle's behaviour of rolling a ball of dung across the ground and Khepri's task of rolling the sun across the sky.

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They were so shamelessly scatalogical in their thinking back then.

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At this point I am fairly positive he should seek psychological help. There is nothing a relationship can do for him that will fix whatever he is struggling with.

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I hope he gets some help, too. Even reading about public meltdowns from people in their 30's tends to make my stomach hurt.

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When I was a kid, my dad was both a sailor and a plot. Some of my most fond memories are of us out on the sea or in the air.

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Lucky you! This is another thing I wish you would talk to me about for hours on end. I'm super curious...do you know how to sail now, do you have any dramatic memories? And did you sail and/or fly with him as an adult?

We're thinking of buying a boat, but it's basically crazy for us to even think of it with such a big family.

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It further goes to show that paradox is not the specific result of Eris, as much as our coping process for perceived paradoxes.

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Got it, at last!

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Here is Zen teacher John Daido Loori's explanation of attachment (see any similarities to the paradox/Libra concepts we have been discussing?): "According to the Buddhist point of view, nonattachment is exactly the opposite of separation. You need two things in order to have attachment: the thing you’re attaching to, and the person who’s attaching. In nonattachment, on the other hand, there’s unity. There’s unity because there’s nothing to attach to. If you have unified with the whole universe, there’s nothing outside of you, so the notion of attachment becomes absurd. Who will attach to what?"

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On the one hand I see how the concepts could link together but my understanding of attachment as a Buddhist principle is rather new and undeveloped. "Am I attached or not attached?" is a question that I feel I can't answer without attaching to something and therefore muddling the data. The best I can think of for now is that everything is in flux, and so what I'm trying to do reach non-attachment more and more, like higher and higher waves.

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Perhaps you have grown to relinquish attachments to the concept of being unfortunate.

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I love how you put that and yes, I've relinquished attachment to that concept (and many others)...though maybe I just traded it in for attachment to the concept of being fortunate. Hmmm.

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As mentioned before, I assume overcoming Eris feels like stepping into one's nature.

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That's interesting, but now I am confused about whether or not there is such a thing as "one's" nature, beyond the ego. (?) For me, I would venture to guess that I will have overcome Eris when I've reached a vantage point, mentally and spiritually, where my actions and responses reflect my unification with the present moment and freedom from distorting biases to one or another side of the paradox. Something like that...

Talking to you makes my brain, sleepy from years of under-use, want to rouse up again and be noticed, but I still have bed head.

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Careful with cashews. It's not that they're poison or anything, they are just such a treat for vegans that we tend to overdo them.

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It's been an edible epiphany for me, learning about the versatility of cashews, and I am kinda jealous of your vegan cheesemonger friends and their beautiful website and lifetime supply of smoked gouda cashew cheese. But I will heed your warning about the perils. I find that fat is addictive for me.

I've been wading deeper and deeper into the world of raw food and loving it completely. 'Having zucchini fettucini was raw pesto or raw marinara on a regular basis...blows my mind how something so yummy and healthy isn't a household staple.

I tried your blended cantaloupe and watermelon, and that was great, but so sweet that I have to concur that some selzter water or something would finish the recipe to perfection.

Do you ever drink green smoothies? I just bought a book called Green Smoothie Revolution and am half-crazy to get on the bandwagon. Today I'm taking my kids to a nearby field replete with dandelions, whose greens I will Vita-Mix with fruit.

The Boutenko family who started the "Revolution" are arguing quite persuasively that greens do not combine as starchy vegetables and therefore they ought to be re-categorized for food combination purposes. I was skeptical until I read that gorillas wrap bananas in leaves and we are like them genetically so why not?

I dunno but this could easily change my life, because I have a fragile digestive system and can't handle too many greens...yet I tolerate the smoothies well. And the philosophy extends to wild edibles so one's intake of alkaloids from greens is varied, and so one's budget is spared.

I like this idea and will be morphing physically because of it and wonder if you have any opinions on it.

K, this is longer than I intended but as usual, I like gabbing with you so I hang around for a long time.

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Were you also waiting for him to start cracking jokes about the Egyptians calling dung beetles sacred?

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I hope he gets some help, too. Even reading about public meltdowns from people in their 30's tends to make my stomach hurt.

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Lucky you! This is another thing I wish you would talk to me about for hours on end. I'm super curious...do you know how to sail now, do you have any dramatic memories? And did you sail and/or fly with him as an adult?

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On the one hand I see how the concepts could link together but my understanding of attachment as a Buddhist principle is rather new and undeveloped. "Am I attached or not attached?" is a question that I feel I can't answer without attaching to something and therefore muddling the data. The best I can think of for now is that everything is in flux, and so what I'm trying to do reach non-attachment more and more, like higher and higher waves.

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The concept (as I understand it) is that when we practice these specific attachments, we establish a point of stasis. Being aware of attachments which draw us away from our stasis point, deepens our understanding of attachment in general. When an attachment arises we can release it and return to our stasis point until we are skillful enough to catch attachment before it arises. In the end, the only attachment remaining is our stasis point and that is how one supposedly awakens to non-attachment. This is the Adittapariyaya Sutta Please tell me if you are not interested in me posting suttas (scriptures). I'm not attempting to "win you to Buddhism" (if there is such a thing), I just wanted to answer your question thoroughly. The Buddha likened "awakening to non-attachment" to blowing out a flame.

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I've relinquished attachment to that concept (and many others)...though maybe I just traded it in for attachment to the concept of being fortunate. Hmmm.

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That's interesting, but now I am confused about whether or not there is such a thing as "one's" nature, beyond the ego. (?) For me, I would venture to guess that I will have overcome Eris when I've reached a vantage point, mentally and spiritually, where my actions and responses reflect my unification with the present moment and freedom from distorting biases to one or another side of the paradox. Something like that...

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Having zucchini fettucini was raw pesto or raw marinara on a regular basis...blows my mind how something so yummy and healthy isn't a household staple.

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I tried your blended cantaloupe and watermelon, and that was great, but so sweet that I have to concur that some selzter water or something would finish the recipe to perfection.

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I like this idea and will be morphing physically because of it and wonder if you have any opinions on it.

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Always a pleasure playing LL ping pong. =)

posted May 30, 2013 08:50 PM            

Like, I was thinking about this person having Pluto in Virgo square Sun in Saggitarius. I reasoned that if it were Sun approaching Pluto as a square, it would be a challenge of having intensity or demons that the Sun has to face and accept. Then around the conjunction, the two planets come together, merge, learn, and collaborate before departing. Then as the Sun is departing Pluto as a square, the Sun still has the intensity of Pluto innate to its nature, but this innate intensity causes challenges because now the Sun has to face the rest of the world which is markedly less intense and can't keep pace some times.

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Hey Xiiro Xiidou Xiibombro can youu give me a quick lesson on approaching and departing aspects?

Like, I was thinking about this person having Pluto in Virgo square Sun in Saggitarius. I reasoned that if it were Sun approaching Pluto as a square, it would be a challenge of having intensity or demons that the Sun has to face and accept. Then around the conjunction, the two planets come together, merge, learn, and collaborate before departing. Then as the Sun is departing Pluto as a square, the Sun still has the intensity of Pluto innate to its nature, but this innate intensity causes challenges because now the Sun has to face the rest of the world which is markedly less intense and can't keep pace some times.

You don't need to explain those aspects, I just wanna know how did I do and what the basic...uh, differences are between an approaching aspect and a departing aspect. Ie. how can planet A sextile planet B be different from planet B sextile planet A, where planet A is the faster planet.

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Hey SE, I have been away and then sick for the past few days, but formulating a good response.
I'll update when I am a bit less delerious and capable of forming more than a few paragraphs.

posted June 03, 2013 09:05 AM            

Hi Xiiro!

Sorry to hear you are feeling bad. I thought fruit made a person invincible?

My apologies for not replying yet, my computer broke down and needed a full body transplant to start working again. But thanks for writing, & I'll be back soon!

posted June 08, 2013 08:07 AM            

Maybe you just weren't eating enough? I don't mean to be nosey, but it's amazing to me how fast my hunger comes on when I am trying to get through the morning with just fruit and juice. I feel like nothing short of a truckload of fruit will satisfy. Or maybe, on the bright side, you are merely detoxifying What joy that can bring, eh?

Our perennial strawberry crop is producing cute, delicious strawberries now. We don't have to do any work to make them thrive, they just show up every year crying "eat me!!!" so we obey as do the birds and microfauna. There are also lots of wineberries growing wild in this area, they are like small, dense raspberries. Our yard was covered with them when we inherited this house...to the extent that you couldn't move through the yard. So my husband cleared all the brambles out. Now I am plagued by the ghost of their sweet memory. There are wineberries along some of the more rural roads, but there are also swarms of Lyme-infested ticks, and after two of our kids got Lyme after berry picking, we just quit.

Was that story too long? But I like talking about fruit with you so much. Guess what, I also finally tasted a young Thai coconut. It was slimy and weird. I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be because it was my one and only. I know I have to try again, but it's more out of duty and obligation than young coconut love.

Back to our conversation....

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LOL Ya never know with Ze Frank. Just when you think you are going to follow him down a specific road, he does a weird back flip and you find yourself sitting alone in a random tree.

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I hope so too. Not being able to fix it for him frustrates me (yay Pluto in the 6th). The other difficulty is accepting that he has to resolve this on his own and he is exactly where he needs to be on his path.

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I can imagine how that would be frustrating. That's kind of how I feel about not being able to get my best friend to quit smoking. You have an interesting way of looking at it, though....people are where they need to be. (I'm trying to swallow that but keep thinking in the back of my head, "Are you SURE? Really?" LOL) Well, I don't have a definite opinion about how people heal best, in isolation or socially, I figure it always depends, but I know that sometimes the best thing a doctor can do is get out of the equation altogether. Especially when the patient is going crazy over the doctor. Hard to heal fixation issues when you are the object of the fixation.

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Occasionally we would do airplane/boat related things (museums or fly/sail with other pilots), but he sort of gave up on life after the divorce. He is a weird man (Scorpio Sun conj NN, Sag Venus/Mercury), when he was a kid he wanted to grow up to be a greyhound bus driver... Instead he ended up a computer programmer in the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

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That's so sad about giving up on life...though I'm suppressing a giggle about the big bus driver ambition. (Reminds me of how my Cancer son loves the custodial arts, he's enthralled with cleaning supplies, brooms and whatnot...having Saturn conjunct Mars in Virgo in the first house does that to people, I guess.) Anyway, it seemed that my Scorpio brother also went through hell when his wife divorced him. It just seems terribly difficult to be a Scorpio, forced to grapple with all that deep, dark emotion all the time. Pluto creeping up on my sun already has me wondering if I should lay in a good supply of St. John's Wort or something.

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In Buddhism that is an understood struggle, how does one achieve non-attachment when the concept is foreign? The Buddhist resolution to that paradox is Dharma. The understanding that there is a progressive path of practice which utilizes attachment-based concepts to slowly acclimate us to familiarity to non-attachment.

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Thank you for explaining. I wonder if there's any correlation between that and the fact that sometimes, lately, I do have this sense that I am floating, mentally. And then I don't want to say anything because there doesn't seem to be anything to say. Do ever you get like that? Like nowadays one of my kids will ask me something and I try and think of a reply but every word seems to disrupt the spirit of the question that was asked. My Sag son is funny about it: "And once again, Mom says... absolutely nothing!"

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In Buddhist meditation the practitioner is asked to remain aware of the body within the body, the mind within the mind, the feelings within the feelings, etc. This means observing one's body, not by perceiving how it appears to others, or wandering off into imaginary adventures, but observing one's body from the perspective of "being inside one's own body". The same is done with observing the mind, feelings, etc. Practitioners are also asked to observe the breath as it enters and exits the body. These are all essentially attachments, but their purpose is to keep the consciousness focused in one spot, so it doesn't wander off into random attachments (shopping lists, what we should have said in that fight, etc).

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All of that makes sense. For the few moments that I feel I've meditated successfully, what happened was, I narrowed my focus more and more until I seemed centered exactly on the moment and transformed by enlivenment, for lack of a better expression.

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In the end, the only attachment remaining is our stasis point and that is how one supposedly awakens to non-attachment.

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This is the Adittapariyaya Sutta Please tell me if you are not interested in me posting suttas (scriptures). I'm not attempting to "win you to Buddhism" (if there is such a thing), I just wanted to answer your question thoroughly. The Buddha likened "awakening to non-attachment" to blowing out a flame.

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I think I know you well enough by now that it didn't cross my mind for an instant that you might attempting to convert me. And I usually read all kinds of scriptures with interest (9H Jupiter.) In fact, this Sutta happily reminded me of Ecclesiastes 1..."Vanity of vanities, all is vanity"...a way of thinking that I've kept like a lens for a long time, looking at the world through it. Wondering and experimenting more than believing. But this part of the Sutta isn't very clear to me:

And while this explanation was being given, the hearts of the 1,000 monks, through no clinging (not being sustained), were fully released from fermentation/effluents.

Weren't they clinging to the explanation meanwhile? I don't mean to nitpick, but I just want to get all I can out of the things I read that seem like they could enrich my understanding.

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The key is found in Libra (I feel). When they try too hard, things never feel perfect. The key to Libra is dancing. Have you ever been lost in dance, art, music, nature? lost in the ecstatic sense? One's nature has very little to do with who we are and everything to do with dancing.

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That movie looks so good, I'll see if I can rent it from my library.

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I do occasionally, but I prefer eating greens in salad form or wander-grazing. It's oddly ritualistic for me.

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I could go on and on about foraging here, I love it too, but instead I just want to know if you are familiar with René Redzepi (notice birthday) founder of Noma ?

I saw that and thought of you...interesting how the centaurs go a-grazing!

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I think there is so little we understand about human diet, just because that knowledge is bad for business.

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And independent thinking is, too. I'm frustrated when I think of how few people actually try to cure degenerative diseases with diet and natural medicine. The internet makes the information accessible yet people have a kind of dependency on mainstream media, mainstream thinking, and won't consider validity outside the "norm." Even if they are dying.

I once read a great book called Confessions of a Medical Heretic, where the author, an MD, showcases the similarities between modern medicine and religion...right down to the priestly robes (white lab coat.) People just take it all so seriously and dogmatically; seems to me that the industry suffers most from a the patients' lack of creativity and responsibility. (Not trying to be mean...just venting a bit!)

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Always a pleasure playing LL ping pong. =)

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Thank you ~ same here! The ball is in your court. =)

posted June 20, 2013 06:42 AM            

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Hey Xiiro Xiidou Xiibombro can youu give me a quick lesson on approaching and departing aspects?

Like, I was thinking about this person having Pluto in Virgo square Sun in Saggitarius. I reasoned that if it were Sun approaching Pluto as a square, it would be a challenge of having intensity or demons that the Sun has to face and accept. Then around the conjunction, the two planets come together, merge, learn, and collaborate before departing. Then as the Sun is departing Pluto as a square, the Sun still has the intensity of Pluto innate to its nature, but this innate intensity causes challenges because now the Sun has to face the rest of the world which is markedly less intense and can't keep pace some times.

You don't need to explain those aspects, I just wanna know how did I do and what the basic...uh, differences are between an approaching aspect and a departing aspect. Ie. how can planet A sextile planet B be different from planet B sextile planet A, where planet A is the faster planet.

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I look at aspects as evolving and continuous relationships. When The Sun conjuncts the Moon (for example), they then move off to party with their other friends. Lots of astrologers consider this the end of the Sun/Moon event, but there are some who see the aspect as a moment in a greater evolving relationship. That is a longer discussion, but it is applicable to your question, because Applying, Partile, and Separating aspects become part of a greater learning process when viewed from a broad perspective. Let's say The Moon and Sun make a conjunction in Sag 7H and then the Moon goes on to aspect Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, and the Sun before making another conjunction to the Sun again in Capricorn. All those planets interacted with between Moon conj Sun Sag and Moon Conj Sun Cap represent the events which arose, unfolded, and concluded along the way though original Sun/Moon conjunction's unfolding event.

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1. The faster moving planet is always the applying and separating planet. It is always the planet being influenced by (or learning from) the slower moving planet.

2. When an aspect is applying, it feels like the beginning of something new. I read a great description which likened it to the feeling of getting sick. You notice the symptoms and you think, "crap, I'm going to be sick". The same is similar with applying aspects. Moon in Virgo, approaching Venus, and trine Saturn may bring about a feeling or occasion for cleaning your house. When the Moon moves away from Saturn however and into a conjunction with Venus in Libra, the cleaning may turn into preparation for hosting a social event (perhaps an event planned back when the Moon was conjunct Sun). That example is a bit cliche, but it conveys the point.

3. Partile aspects are the moment of the event; the moment we think to ourselves, "Well crap, I am definitely sick". It is the successfully executed party we cleaned and prepared for.

4. Separating aspects are small resolutions or accomplishments. They are the moment we think to ourselves, "Oh God, I'm actually going to live through this head cold". It is the thank you flowers your party guests send the following week and the pictures of drunk people, your friends turn into memes and post on the internet. It's not always good though, it is completely up to the whole story of the evolving planetary relationship. Moon separating from Neptune (for example) could decide to break a 2 year sobriety. It's all circumstantial.

Your Sun/Pluto example is good. There is usually less intensity found in Separating aspects than Applying however. This is because Applying aspects have a flavor of unknown or pending groundlessness which riles us up. Separating aspects are an evolving process of "been there, done that" in my experience. That is in an ideal situation though, a Separating aspect can reveal someone who has PTSD from their previous experience. It is certainly likely the first few Separating degrees from a Pluto square could be traumatic. lol

posted June 20, 2013 05:38 PM            

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Xiiro: Lord Love a Duck! Sorry for the delay guys. Between recuperation, work, social inundation, and lack of motivation I have been more of a random visitor to LL. I'm not sure what has me so disillusioned with LL recently. Ever since the Sweet Peas drama, LL feels like someone buried land mines outside my refuge. Every time I return, I cringe at the familiar little mounds peaking out among the flowers. It's silly really. I come to LL for the people, not because I had any special affinity with Linda Goodman. I think I read Love Signs back in high school, but I can't say it was a life altering experience. Enough Ranting, Rantopotomus! Get back in the pond! >poke< MoooOoo (or whatever rantos say, they weren't on my childhood See 'n Say)!

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I feel like Lindaland has passed its glory days for me - a majority of the people I developed friendships with have left or aren't around much anymore, and you know how it is for a Scorpio Venus.

If I may speak freely here, the general atmosphere I get from Lindaland nowadays is "pat each other on the back and hide any unpleasantness because we refuse to let it, and the people who accept it, in". I dunno, I feel like no one knows how to run a forum properly. And if anyone speaks out about it, they will get in trouble or banned or whatever. There are sycophants and blind people lurking about...

tautomer said the same actually! The reason he left was because he felt that the people who ran Lindaland were representative of everything politically wrong in society and had no idea how to run a proper forum. I agree. Though he did say you had very valuable knowledge! (Whether he was speaking astrologically or the fact he wants/wanted to experiment with psychedelic drugs, I don't know, )

*Another rantopotomus into the pond*

posted June 21, 2013 08:17 AM            

If you decide to leave the forum please just keep my email handy in case you ever want my wise, wise help in writing a book, okay?

I would miss you if you left, but I understand. I thought about quitting with T and SunChild a few weeks ago, but I didn't even care enough about that drama to make a bold exit with it.

Hope this post finds you both well.

Cheers

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I feel like Lindaland has passed its glory days for me - a majority of the people I developed friendships with have left or aren't around much anymore, and you know how it is for a Scorpio Venus.

If I may speak freely here, the general atmosphere I get from Lindaland nowadays is "pat each other on the back and hide any unpleasantness because we refuse to let it, and the people who accept it, in". I dunno, I feel like no one knows how to run a forum properly. And if anyone speaks out about it, they will get in trouble or banned or whatever. There are sycophants and blind people lurking about...

tautomer said the same actually! The reason he left was because he felt that the people who ran Lindaland were representative of everything politically wrong in society and had no idea how to run a proper forum. I agree. Though he did say you had very valuable knowledge! (Whether he was speaking astrologically or the fact he wants/wanted to experiment with psychedelic drugs, I don't know, )

*Another rantopotomus into the pond*

But cool cool! All righty another bit of knowledge to my arsenal. I'll think on it.

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posted June 21, 2013 04:36 PM            

Speaking for myself, the situation which prompted T and SunChild to leave had to do with your removing an entire forum (DD) as penalty for a disruption that happened there. You also mysteriously revoked Xiiro's modship, which is unsettling, since I'm sure he had nothing to do with the fiasco.

T & SunChild's opinion was that you essentially punished all participants on that forum for the uproar, by blocking their ability to continue on with their threads.

They saw it as your refusal to take serious disciplinary action against the repeat offenders themselves (some of whom are mods) and instead acted as if all had done equally wrong. By occasionally removing whole forums, they alleged that you were setting the members up for repeated, unnecessary interruptions in their conversations.