posted September 24, 2012 09:30 AM            

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Interesting side note...as a medicine man, my mom explained that I'm supposed to be able to understand whoever I deal with (to better help them heal, for example). She went on to say that my androgynous features and, sometimes, behaviours is probably to help empathize with both male and female. And my uncle? The previous medicine man who's spirit supposedly lives on in me? He was the same.

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That IS interesting. And you have a lot of feminine planets too, right?

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Xiiro: Spirals spirals erewhere!

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Reminds me of this terrifying comic! I think you might like it. It's about this primordial town that gets taken over my strange spirals.

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Faith: And you have a lot of feminine planets too, right?

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posted September 25, 2012 08:22 AM            

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..can you tell me whether or not my sun (15 Cap) is in mutual reception with Saturn (0 Leo)? I can't find anything on whether or not mutual reception is subject to orb rules. And what do you make of that mutual reception, if I have it?

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Sun Capricorn 15 - Saturn Leo 0/Uranus Scorpio 6
Decan Taurus
Duad Cancer
6th House - Ceres Gemini 1/Mercury Aquarius 5

Saturn Leo 0 retrograde - Sun Capricorn 15/Moon Pisces 18
Decan Leo
Duad Leo
12th House - Neptune Sagittarius 12/Jupiter Aries 16

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Your Sun is in Capricorn 15 degrees, which is the climax of the sign. In this degree the Capricorn energy flows very naturally, without any obstacles from inexperience or overexposure. In the karmic scheme of things, this means you have mastered the energy of Capricorn in your past lives and are now able to display the sign as a jewel in your crown. Because this is your Sun's sign, I would wager Capricorn is the center jewel. With your Sun, your awareness is wired to perceive you from a public perspective. You may feel as though you are constantly seen, that there is a need to perform or display your self in a specific light (not always the same light) at all times. This "creative structure" or "mission to be in control of how/what you manifest" infuses every part of your individuality. This need to marionette your self is based on the ideals which you inherited from your experiences with friends, foes, and family. Even after a person has long left your environment, their impression stays with you for a very long time. Those impressions can haunt you or help to transform you.

You use your feelings to assess other people's reactions to you and then use those reactions to identify qualities in your self. If you feel people repeatedly misunderstand you, you deem your self "hard to understand", if you feel people tend to get frustrated with you, you deem your self "frustrating". This can be a good way to explore the self, but make sure you are surrounding your self with the right people. Otherwise you may find your self associating with traits based on the views of people who don't understand you. You wouldn't walk up to a stranger and ask them for personal advise and in that same line, the opinions of people who don't understand or know you very rarely apply to you as an individual.

Sun 6th House -

When the Sun is in the 6th we see our self through the filter of self refinement and improvement. These individuals are here to learn about how to become a more fluid and higher functioning being, to best express the self in a way which is of great benefit to others. In your case the process of refinement is infused with a need to gather and communicate information. The more information you gather, the further you are capable of refining your self. The more you refine your self and the information you acquire, the more you can use that information to nourish and serve others. This desire to refine your self through communication is based on an altruistic, imaginative, and change-oriented mindset. You seek to speak people's language, because people rarely learn to speak yours.

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Your Saturn is in Leo 0 degrees, which is the initiating degree of the sign. In this degree Leo energy is premature, unruly, and inexperienced. This degree can feel a bit like the planet is a baby acclimating to a new environment. In karmic terms, this degree indicates a lifetime where you have mastered the energies of Cancer and are now moving on to the experiences of Leo. This Saturn is wired to structure reality based your creations/manifestations/expressions. Because Saturn is retrograde, the energy is internalized and therefor becomes wired to structure reality based on the creations and manifestations which arise within you. These internally manifesting structures, are infused with the awareness of how you are perceived publicly, located within a need to completely disintegrate "self". I guess more easily put, you maintain an image within, of how you are perceived outside, while desiring to completely dissolve that image.

Your Saturn is constantly chipping away at the image in an effort to become less structured, but whenever one head is removed, two heads grow in its place. You battle a great hydra, born out of the struggle between "wanting to be perceived in a certain way" and "needing to not be perceived at all". Both extremes are not possible however, because in some way we are always exposed or overlooked. The result of this battle is separation from others. Your Saturn may be convinced that you are doing others a great favor by containing this horrible beast. The truth however is that the beast does not exist, on a deeper level you have shut your self away in a room and occasionally make loud noises when people pass the door. They do not dare enter, believing a great scary battle is taking place. This is the "drama" we hear about with Leos, but what we don't hear much about is how real these creations are to Leo. At some point though it is most beneficial to put down the sword and walk out of the room. Remember that you hold no one else up to the same standard you hold your self. If you feel alone, then step off the Leo throne and join the feast. What supports your positive growth is the fact that you are slowly learning how powerful your creative ability is. Where you are, who you are with, what you have, are all creations which arise along your path. It is important to use your opposing Mercury as a BS detector, to put Saturn back in its place when it gets out of hand or pat Saturn on the back when it deserves it. Your Saturn is in Leo and therefor requires the same amount of petting you so readily offer others.

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Saturn 12th House -

When Saturn is in the 12th our fears, structures, disciplinary force, and concept of reality is located/arises out of our internal, solitary, alone space. These individuals have an inner voice which guides their outward actions. In some cases this voice is beneficial and gives them great insight on how to deal with situations in a practical and critical manner. In some cases the voice can instigate fear, doubt, and a critical self image. When Saturn hides in the 12th it can mask its self as a big scary monster. People with this placement can feel that turning inward is an experience of torture. In a positive light, determination to overcome inner demons is a characteristic. You have a great spiritual strength if you seek to claim it and a capacity for deep meditation, if you are brave enough to go inside and clean house. These individuals are here to learn metaphysical structure and the relative nature of seriousness.

Your internal solitary alone space is infused with a desire to seek out a path to unconditional wisdom. There is a belief that somewhere is a greater plan and within that plan must be a path to wisdom. This desire to seek unconditional wisdom relies on the constant influx of experiences. The more you experience new things, the more you can take them back to your alone space, weed out the parts which apply to your self, and apply them to your path to unconditional wisdom.

How your Sun and Saturn relate -

In your chart Saturn has reached 0 degrees Leo, but has reversed course and is headed back toward Cancer. It rests mid-way between a Quincunx with the Sun and an Opposition with the Sun. In your case, Saturn is reaching back toward the opposition. This indicates that Saturn and the Sun are seeking a comprehensive and relative dialogue, over a relationship which requires agitation and instigation. In regards to Mutual Reception, your chart appears to be easing you into an introduction with the sign of Leo in order to break down a past of restriction and method. Your Sun in the 15th degree tells us that Capricorn is well navigated territory and you have chosen Capricorn's ruling planet as a way to explore such an unfamiliar energy as Leo. Leo is the most structured of the Fire signs (being Fixed) and also happens to be the opposing sign of Capricorn's sister. So in a way Leo was a perfect choice for your Saturn to begin dabbling in the less material energies of Fire.

Your Sun is in the Duad of Cancer, which connects to your Saturn in a few ways:
Saturn is Cancer's Detriment
The Moon is Leo's sub-ruler
Your Saturn is orbiting toward Cancer

This indicates your Sun is intimidating for your Saturn. Your individuality is difficult for your structures to direct and comprehend. Saturn's job is to keep us in a box though, so by God he's gonna try.

Your Sun is also located in the 6th, which is ruled by Ceres in Gemini and sub-ruled by Mercury in Aquarius. Your Mercury is opposed Saturn and reinforces the opposition energy between Your Sun and Saturn. But because Mercury is in Aquarius (sister of Capricorn, opposed Leo, sub-ruled by Saturn), it strengthens the positive link between both planets. This means "Who you are" and "who you insist on being" can develop a gentle dialogue based on respect, appreciating uniqueness, and looking outside the box for answers to unsolvable problems.

Your Saturn in Leo is sub-ruled by Moon in Pisces. This strengthens it's connection to the 12th House. Saturn seeks to be felt, understood, and nurtured by the Cancerian Duad within your Sun. When your Saturn bullies you into submission, he is throwing a tantrum because your individuality has frightened him. You must discover why Saturn acts the way he does, by holding your screaming Saturn to your breast, and investigating him like a mother looks over her baby. The more you pay attention to what freaks your Saturn out, the more you will be able to find ways around those things.

Both Saturn's Decan and Duad are in Leo, which means Saturn is your Sun's number 1 fan (not always great if your Saturn is a big ol Pushy Paula though). Your Saturn is fixated with your individuality and until you learn to ease Saturn's grip, being your self in the world will be a challenge.

Finally, this doesn't relate to your Saturn (except perhaps the Sag/Gemini connection), But I felt it was important to mention. You have Planets in all three Fire signs, but no grand trine. Your Saturn 12th however acts with a similar energy on its own. The reason is because Saturn is in Leo, your 12th House is ruled by Sagittarius, and sub-ruled by Aries. Your Saturn is a birthday present just waiting to be opened. When you discover how to open it, you will become the person your Saturn is so obsessed with being.

As for the earlier response, some of that still applies. It is important you are patient, realistic, and compassionate with your self. The Piscean influences can learn to find comfort in pain, but Leo is about being brave enough to stand up for and respect your self.

posted September 25, 2012 09:45 AM            

Hi Xiiro!

How are you? I would've sent this sooner but my children worked me into the ground yesterday and once again I had no energy for moonlighting at LindaLand. Which is a shame since I think my mind works better in the dark.

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....the nieces came to visit and we needed to attend to tasks like baking White Chocolate/Cherry Oatmeal Cookies, homework, staring at pictures of nebulae online, planting a pineapple and naming him "Sponge Bob The Small".... things of that nature.

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Aw! Such a fabulous uncle you are, and o how I wish I could taste those cookies. I think I will buy some white chocolate and dried cherries when I go to the store and use them in my standard oatmeal cookie recipe, yum!

Is everyone begging you to take them to Hawaii yet?

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Lettuce begin!

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ROTFL

I know...it wasn't supposed to be that funny...I just have an odd sense of humor.

*trying to compose myself* (......tee hee hee "lettuce begin" he says!)

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My NN is in Libra. The more we relate, the more I discover my destiny. So I'd say you've given me endless things to be grateful for.

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That Libra NN-Pluto is probably a stern taskmaster for you sometimes, but the way other people benefit from your evolution is a beautiful thing indeed! Thank you. <3

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But on an esoteric level, the concept that archetypes (or familiar patterns) are continuously represented within all levels of reality, is something I agree with.

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Hmmm!!! 'Definitely never considered how ideas/archetypes could be holographic. Will think on that more.

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This is actually the basis of my perspective on how astrology functions, the planets and stars are not external forces projecting influence on us, but "apparently external" objects, evolving in simultaneity with each manifested individual and object.

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Is this back to quantum physics and an object being in two places at once? The planet is out there and in here? On a slightly related note, for a while I've had a silly thesis that something funky is going on in space that can make an object appear larger as you approach it. In other words, as I sit here, Mars looks small because it is small. As I get closer to it, it expands. But maybe I shouldn't say too much of this stuff out loud or the men with the white coats will be coming for me.

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I think if the bible was constructed by people who's hands were guided by God, then the inclusion of scripture with Jesus's direct teachings are where that guidance manifests.

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I think a lot of people agree with you...those who carry red-letter edition Bibles around, for instance. I still have a bad aftertaste in my mouth from my fundamentalist years, and one thing Jesus said (supposedly) that I have trouble swallowing is, "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, nay, but rather division. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three." I don't like that at all.

'Watched the Starbucks Love Project and got the sniffles, thank you.

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Even metaphorically, a person's life circles their past experiences and grows outward, broadening their perspective of those experiences.

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I totally love that.

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If you have ever added a small amount of water to a good amount of corn starch. You can slowly run your finger through it and the texture is liquid, but if you grab a handful of it quickly, it breaks off like a piece of moist clay. Then the moment your hand lets up, it melts back into a liquid.

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Happy to say my oldest son made that goop for us last year, and it was so much fun playing with it. Brilliant metaphor for science, Xiiro. Do your nieces charge up your brain with extra light when they come to play because I am even more flabbergasted than usual. =)

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Is this map upside down? Why?

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Ha! Um...cuz the heavy polar bears would fall off into space if they had to be on the bottom of the earth??

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There is no such thing as existence and nonexistence, only theater hopping.

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Okay, and Planck units pertain to the hopping (or appearance of hopping)?

This reminds me of how the spaces between all the atoms in solid matter are so vast that theoretically we should be able to walk through walls without bumping into anything. On one level, there aren't vast spaces in our body, but at the same time, yes there are. Just like, as your Buddhist teacher said, from one vantage point, night and day are non-negotiable, and from another, they are irrelevant.

When I was ten, I fell completely in love with astronomy. I got out all the books at my school library and copied long passages into my "space journal." Then I joined the town's library and got out all the kids' books there on the subject, and did the same thing. I snuck astronomy books into my other classes so I wouldn't lose time studying. I had been having trouble with kids at school, but this obsession was like deliverance to me. I could go home, lie on the floor, and just think about wandering around the universe for hours. The whole idea of a planet having multiple moons just delighted me. I loved the diversity of everything, it seemed to put earth life into perspective as not so serious after all, not the end-all, be-all of existence. Maybe I was a budding Buddhist even then.

This was me. =)

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Either way it all seems a bit masturbatory (pardon my crudeness).

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Oh you are totally pardoned. I have Scorpio NN and it's my destiny to learn what words like that mean and find deeper applications for them. =)

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In Mutual Reception with your 15 Degree Cap Sun, there is an observant appreciation. The Sun is in Capricorn's ultimate degree, where it is manifesting in its most functional way. Saturn looks to the Sun and feels there is a disconnect between how you express your self and how you feel inside. In some people this can feel like sitting back, watching one's self in certain situations, and thinking, "God, I wish I was really like that".

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Your reading is supernaturally spot-on here. In social situations, my main problem is, I think, that I don't have any friends in person who share my common interests in all this New Age stuff. I wish I could "shine" (Leo) about the topics that really matter to me. Instead, it's like I am that Fayth band-aid, going along to make other people feel better about their worldview, even though I think their worldview (Christian fundamentalist, usually) is unhealthy, restrictive, and delusional. But I can talk about Christianity in a way that, I think, is more probing and informed than what most professing Christians have to offer. I was a Calvinist for a few years and present a different view of things.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Inaction is your nemesis and that is especially true if your SN is in Taurus. Taurus uses our fear of the unknown to force us into petrification. I understand how difficult this lesson is, but the only way to overcome it is challenging your comfort zones, getting over all the fears you have been reinforcing through your previous years, and giving your self a severe dose of realness.

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GULP. You're damn right but....the illusion I have, that this will be like walking over hot coals, is very palpable. Still...bit by bit I am getting somewhere. It's more an attitude shift I'm seeking...then the action to follow. I'm glad you mention patience with myself because I do feel like everything is urgent and has to be done yesterday sometimes.

*Thank you* for talking about this with me.

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If you can master this Mutual Reception you will have a very persistent sense of self. Cap and Leo are two very solid energies and mastery of their energies results in self-respect, flawless judgment, enviable aura of purpose and belonging, irreplaceable friend and companion, the list goes on...

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My Leo rising is like..."huh, where's the rest of that list?" LOL! But thank you...it's fun to think about becoming a better person. I do feel like I have made a lot of headway with my judgement. It hasn't been too hard, all I've had to do is let myself love people, and if I act from that place of acceptance and compassion, I feel confident in what I am saying. This is why I have to apologize when I do something petty, even if I don't necessarily enjoy the energy of the person I am apologizing to. It's a matter of holding myself accountable to a higher standard, if I can.

Maybe because my key planet Saturn is the 12th (ruled by my 8H Pisces moon, if I'm not mistaken) it adds Pisces energy into my Sun-Saturn evolution.

Before I move onto the next topic, can you tell me if your Mercury and Saturn are in mutual reception and, if so, what do you make of that? (All questions that I ask, feel free to ignore. I don't ever want to burden you. I'm just a very inquisitive person and the questions flow out naturally.) I'd love to know your opinion of your own mind. =)

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HAha we're all dying =)

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Giggling...."misery loves company" =)

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No, if anything perhaps it means you are sacrificing too much of your self to help other people fight losing battles....So Fayths are band-aids...are you being a band-aid?

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Very much so. It's a sad thing, a deep well of issues. I was wondering how to talk about it, trying very hard to figure out what to say, but it leads to this quagmire of problems that I don't want this conversation to go near, for fear of all the lovely, invigorating philosophy getting sucked into some black hole of boring self-analysis. *Circumventing the black hole*

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Weird, for some reason I thought you were Libra rising (not sure where I got that idea). I apologize if the above info about Mutual Reception got squished by my poor understanding of your house placements.

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No need for any apologies, I am grateful that you took the time to talk to me about it! Just in case I have another question in the future, of if you are curious, my chart is now on page 6 for reference.

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Do people react oddly to your withdrawal, or does your slippery fish Moon slide off between the cracks?

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=) The slippery moon thing. If someone is sensitive and observant, they'll see that I appear more comfortable, and avert my eyes less, when talking about objective issues like politics or health than I am when telling my life story.

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The proper thing to say/do is be your self and treat the person the same way you would want to be treated.

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OK, then I think I am in the clear. That comes naturally to me. I still have that Pollyanna streak where I am just trying to find common ground with everyone I meet.

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I am battling the urge to also become Geminiphobic LOL.

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LOL, aren't we all? (Kidding. And I'm sorry if my Gemini Mars scares anyone but the truth is, I have a lot of fun with it, I think I can actually feel the versatility.)

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
This is changing as time progresses, but gay people can basically only flirt, date, etc.. at a bar, gay event, or online. If you have ever done the bar or online dating thing, you are also familiar with the fact that most people are there to get laid. Anyone who is not interested in just hooking up is faced with a real problem, because they can't go out to find serious relationships.

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Thank you for explaining, I had no idea about that. I feel badly about it. I also feel like Hollywood has ripped me off once again because the movies I've seen make it seem like gays fit in wherever they go. That doesn't do justice to the nature of problem, does it? What do you think of how Hollywood portrays gay life? Is it over-optimistic? I'm sorry if I sound like a flake even bringing that up but, as I said, I don't have much exposure to gay culture whatsoever, and am starting from scratch trying to get the pulse of what's going on. Thank you for being patient with me.

Anyway...do you think this is part of the reason you are single...just not enough opportunity to get to know guys for real?

I never did online dating or hung out in bars trying to meet anyone. And I've always been so naive, I think that if a guy was just talking to me so he could get laid that night, I never would have noticed, I would just waste his time talking about astrology or something, and then politely decline going back to his apartment, oblivious to the frustration I was causing. AND I'd expect a cheery goodbye from him in the end as well. LOL

I'm kind of an idiot, if you haven't noticed this yet. When my friends were over the other night, I revealed that I had been a disc jockey in college, and my "rice cake" friend burst out laughing to the point of tears. She said, "You were probably making mistakes left and right and spent half the time apologizing to your audience, right??" And I was like, "How did you know?!!"

I'm kind of disturbed that she knew that. But whatever...just letting it roll off my back like everything else....ho hum.

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Imagine going somewhere, flirting with a guy who seemed interested, and when he found out you were flirting, got super offended and punched you in the head, beat you to an inch of your life, or even killed you?

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Horrifying. Absolutely terrible.

((( squish ))) because I'm sorry if you ever felt that way, and hope you never have to feel that way!

I didn't know how Matthew Shepard died. =(

While I'm talking about scary, aggressive men, I just want to add that I'm starting to think most women fear men on a physical level, even if we aren't aware of it or expressing it. So it's something I can relate to a little bit...that fear. Raw vulnerability.

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I think it shows respect personally, but I may just be weird.

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Good then we are both weird! Folie à deux.

(Well not really, I just flatter myself about being so similar to you in some way.)

Well, it's been a nice brisk morning sipping my coffee, nibbling extra dark chocolate and rambling on and on here. I hope your morning is deluxe and that I get to talk to you again sometime, when it's convenient for you, and if it suits your fancy. And as usual, may the road always rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back.

posted September 25, 2012 09:57 AM            

Your analysis cuts to the heart of so many issues that I face.

I'm not used to being seen so clearly. It's disorienting. I'm not used to other people having such vivid minds that I can see them clearly, and that is disorienting, too.

Out of this emotional state, I can only think to offer you back a list of some things that you said that strike me as coming out of "The Answer"...

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You may feel as though you are constantly seen, that there is a need to perform or display your self in a specific light (not always the same light) at all times.

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...you may find your self associating with traits based on the views of people who don't understand you.

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This desire to refine your self through communication is based on an altruistic, imaginative, and change-oriented mindset. You seek to speak people's language, because people rarely learn to speak yours.

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Comment: I may have delusions of grandeur here but I think a lot of my attention is actually focused on getting people to speak my language, and I see it happening over time as I get to know people. Candor gives rise to candor. Disinclination to gossip/judgement seems to dispel the impulse to gossip/judge. Politeness.

But what people don't understand is just how important mysticism is to me...the redemption of supposedly taboo knowledge is a "cause" for me, and almost nobody really gets that that is underlying much of what I am driving at. They hear hints and see glimmers, but we never actually reckon with each other.

I am a little frightened of the 3H Pluto, I feel like I can destroy things that shouldn't be destroyed, if I'm not careful. Especially being trine to Mars, and trine Mercury. I try and modulate my jack-hammering effect.

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I guess more easily put, you maintain an image within, of how you are perceived outside, while desiring to completely dissolve that image

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Your Saturn is constantly chipping away at the image in an effort to become less structured, but whenever one head is removed, two heads grow in its place. You battle a great hydra, born out of the struggle between "wanting to be perceived in a certain way" and "needing to not be perceived at all".

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Remember that you hold no one else up to the same standard you hold your self. If you feel alone, then step off the Leo throne and join the feast.

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Thank you for the invitation =)

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What supports your positive growth is the fact that you are slowly learning how powerful your creative ability is. Where you are, who you are with, what you have, are all creations which arise along your path.

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<3 Writing that down. 'Would love to turn that into an ornate bookmark. (Which is my "media" by the way...colored pencil and Micron markers on card stock, making bookmarks.)

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Is that a kitty cat?

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You have a great spiritual strength if you seek to claim it and a capacity for deep meditation, if you are brave enough to go inside and clean house. These individuals are here to learn metaphysical structure and the relative nature of seriousness.

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I feel that strongly.

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In regards to Mutual Reception, your chart appears to be easing you into an introduction with the sign of Leo in order to break down a past of restriction and method.

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Sometimes I really do feel more Leo than Capricorn, especially when I am hanging out with other Caps and noting the differences.

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Your individuality is difficult for your structures to direct and comprehend.

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Saturn seeks to be felt, understood, and nurtured by the Cancerian Duad within your Sun. When your Saturn bullies you into submission, he is throwing a tantrum because your individuality has frightened him.

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You must discover why Saturn acts the way he does, by holding your screaming Saturn to your breast, and investigating him like a mother looks over her baby. The more you pay attention to what freaks your Saturn out, the more you will be able to find ways around those things.

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I guess I can't really locate the Saturn Leo feeling just yet, but this is an interesting suggestion.

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Your Saturn is fixated with your individuality and until you learn to ease Saturn's grip, being your self in the world will be a challenge.

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Very, very, very true.

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Probably more than you know, but you know a lot, so....

Just thank you.

posted September 25, 2012 04:48 PM            

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I'd also like to see a software option thing or whatever that displays charts with only minor aspects. You've convinced me that they need to be looked at too.

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Terrible! Well not terrible but I've been feeling like the old is starting to weigh me down. I recently made amends with an old friend, and basically parted ways. We had a sort of mutual feeling between us but it died on her end and as she spent more and more time with someone else, I told her how I felt. Now I feel like I can go off on my own and not wait around, ya kno! I kind of want to do the same with another friend. Spending so much time with their significant other...I'm okay, but she's starting to cancel on me to hang out with him. That's no f!cking good and it's bugging me too much! Frickin' fire signs are too lively.

Siiiiighs, I think I need to broaden my social circle, hahaha. I'm outgoing and stuff! But reworking the same old relationships is tiring me out. New people are my favourite kind of people.

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I think finding new people is a great idea and if your distant friend's path meets with yours again, then they have to deal with forming a new relationship based on how you both have changed. This is a true test of friendship, one's ability to reinvent their relationship based on their individual life experiences. =)

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Interesting side note...as a medicine man, my mom explained that I'm supposed to be able to understand whoever I deal with (to better help them heal, for example). She went on to say that my androgynous features and, sometimes, behaviours is probably to help empathize with both male and female. And my uncle? The previous medicine man who's spirit supposedly lives on in me? He was the same.

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Reminds me of this terrifying comic! I think you might like it. It's about this primordial town that gets taken over my strange spirals.

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I leave you with this - Oh so soft and cuddly

posted September 26, 2012 01:25 AM            

Thank you for posting your chart, it helped a lot!

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I think I will buy some white chocolate and dried cherries when I go to the store and use them in my standard oatmeal cookie recipe, yum!

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Is everyone begging you to take them to Hawaii yet?

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I know...it wasn't supposed to be that funny...I just have an odd sense of humor.

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That Libra NN-Pluto is probably a stern taskmaster for you sometimes, but the way other people benefit from your evolution is a beautiful thing indeed! Thank you. <3

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Is this back to quantum physics and an object being in two places at once? The planet is out there and in here? On a slightly related note, for a while I've had a silly thesis that something funky is going on in space that can make an object appear larger as you approach it. In other words, as I sit here, Mars looks small because it is small. As I get closer to it, it expands. But maybe I shouldn't say too much of this stuff out loud or the men with the white coats will be coming for me.

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I still have a bad aftertaste in my mouth from my fundamentalist years, and one thing Jesus said (supposedly) that I have trouble swallowing is, "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, nay, but rather division. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three." I don't like that at all.

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Do your nieces charge up your brain with extra light when they come to play because I am even more flabbergasted than usual. =)

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Ha! Um...cuz the heavy polar bears would fall off into space if they had to be on the bottom of the earth??

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Actually the answer is no. The map is not up side down and the reason is, because we base north on the position of the north star. Science makes solid determinations based on the concept of direction, but the truth is, North is just where we once saw the brightest star. If the brightest star had been south, then we would consider the area above Canada "The Antarctic" and Australia would be considered "up above" instead of "down under". The same happens with time. Every Sunday we go to church, every night at 9pm we go to bed, etc... But Sunday and 9pm don't actually exist, they are simply mental markers to organize and compartmentalize existence. Yet science bases solid facts on concepts like time... That certainly calls Astrology into question.

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Okay, and Planck units pertain to the hopping (or appearance of hopping)?

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This reminds me of how the spaces between all the atoms in solid matter are so vast that theoretically we should be able to walk through walls without bumping into anything. On one level, there aren't vast spaces in our body, but at the same time, yes there are. Just like, as your Buddhist teacher said, from one vantage point, night and day are non-negotiable, and from another, they are irrelevant.

When I was ten, I fell completely in love with astronomy. I got out all the books at my school library and copied long passages into my "space journal." Then I joined the town's library and got out all the kids' books there on the subject, and did the same thing. I snuck astronomy books into my other classes so I wouldn't lose time studying. I had been having trouble with kids at school, but this obsession was like deliverance to me. I could go home, lie on the floor, and just think about wandering around the universe for hours. The whole idea of a planet having multiple moons just delighted me. I loved the diversity of everything, it seemed to put earth life into perspective as not so serious after all, not the end-all, be-all of existence. Maybe I was a budding Buddhist even then.

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can you tell me if your Mercury and Saturn are in mutual reception and, if so, what do you make of that?

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It's a sad thing, a deep well of issues. I was wondering how to talk about it, trying very hard to figure out what to say, but it leads to this quagmire of problems that I don't want this conversation to go near, for fear of all the lovely, invigorating philosophy getting sucked into some black hole of boring self-analysis.

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I also feel like Hollywood has ripped me off once again because the movies I've seen make it seem like gays fit in wherever they go. That doesn't do justice to the nature of problem, does it? What do you think of how Hollywood portrays gay life? Is it over-optimistic?

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The down side is, people think that gay people won the war, "Using the word "gay" has become taboo on TV and my kid will get in trouble now for saying "gay" in school. The gay people never have to worry about being called names again". My sister for example, believes gay people no longer endure any prejudice, because all her favorite gay characters on TV are happy and safe. In the same breath however, she will defend her belief that we should not be allowed the right to get married. She believes that most gay people are gay because they were abused, and she also believes that gay people should not be allowed to adopt because they are more likely to be abusers.

People tend to define reality using the images they encounter. Repetitive images of normalcy helps humanize us, but harms the reality that gay people are still not treated as normal people in many places.

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Anyway...do you think this is part of the reason you are single...just not enough opportunity to get to know guys for real?

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I would just waste his time talking about astrology or something, and then politely decline going back to his apartment, oblivious to the frustration I was causing. AND I'd expect a cheery goodbye from him in the end as well. LOL

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I revealed that I had been a disc jockey in college, and my "rice cake" friend burst out laughing to the point of tears. She said, "You were probably making mistakes left and right and spent half the time apologizing to your audience, right??"

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While I'm talking about scary, aggressive men, I just want to add that I'm starting to think most women fear men on a physical level, even if we aren't aware of it or expressing it. So it's something I can relate to a little bit...that fear. Raw vulnerability.

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And as usual, may the road always rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back.

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May the road rise with you
May the wind be always at your back
May the sun shine warm upon your face
May the rain fall soft upon your fields
And until we meet again
May love hold you
In the hollow of her hand.

=)

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I may have delusions of grandeur here but I think a lot of my attention is actually focused on getting people to speak my language, and I see it happening over time as I get to know people. Candor gives rise to candor. Disinclination to gossip/judgement seems to dispel the impulse to gossip/judge. Politeness.

But what people don't understand is just how important mysticism is to me...the redemption of supposedly taboo knowledge is a "cause" for me, and almost nobody really gets that that is underlying much of what I am driving at.

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I am a little frightened of the 3H Pluto, I feel like I can destroy things that shouldn't be destroyed, if I'm not careful. Especially being trine to Mars, and trine Mercury. I try and modulate my jack-hammering effect.

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>^.^<
Is that a kitty cat?

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I guess I can't really locate the Saturn Leo feeling just yet, but this is an interesting suggestion.

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Xiiro: Eeeeeenteresting. I have read into the first part and so far I am hooked. I'll comment more after I have read through.
=)

I leave you with this - Oh so soft and cuddly

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If it isn't your style, feel free not to continue it, by all means! It is supposed to be horror, but the general "gore" didn't scare me, it was the ending.

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omg what ARE those! Is that like an 80s/90s cartoon? Wowie...

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They are an old 80's doll turned 90's cartoon. To my knowledge only one Monchichi made it out of the tree and into professional movie making... Taylor Lautner:

posted September 27, 2012 09:24 AM            

What a difference latitude makes. As your garden flourishes I have been over here working our mammoth woodstove in the basement, fussin' and fumin' like Ralphie's father, trying to get some heat into the house. It's amazing how much smoke the smoke alarm will allow before going off.

Yesterday, for the first time in four years, I saw a black bear. He ran across the road in front of us. There are "signs" (euphemism) of a black bear wandering our fields and forest quite a bit, and my daughter says she saw one the other day in plain sight, but for me to actually behold one for once was exciting. Makes me feel like the wilderness lives on yet.

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It has poisoned my Capricorn Mercury's ability to refrain from being Capricorny.

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LOL, sorry to hear it. Well, this is one of my favorite jokes, told to me by a fellow Capricorn:

A: I gotta tell you this story, you won't believe it. I was walking down the street and I see this mattababy coming near me, so--
B: What's that you say?
A: I said, I was walking down the street and along comes this big mattababy with these huge---
B: Huh? What's a mattababy?
A: Nothin'... what's a matta with you?

=)

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I occasionally entertain the idea that we are surrounded by a bubble which acts as a movie screen, displaying objects and environment as our mind projects it.

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You and I are both fearless in our defiance of the tyranny of rational science.

You got any funky views on evolution while we're at it?

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I see the above scripture as Jesus talking about how difficult it is to give up all our attachments and follow the path.

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I like that you can make sense of that. And on second thought, I see how it's correct and inevitable.

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Yet science bases solid facts on concepts like time... That certainly calls Astrology into question.

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In what way, if you don't mind my infinite series of questions?

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I like these images, and I appreciate the fact that you feel comfortable enough to share them.

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Oh, I've been figuratively reclining on your sofa for a long time now, sipping Refreshing Drink and dishing about whatever comes to mind... =)

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That discovery caused me to wonder if all objects have a singularity at their core, and every other feature about an object is just the stuff collecting around the event horizon?

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I cannot make sense of that question.

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People tend to define reality using the images they encounter. Repetitive images of normalcy helps humanize us, but harms the reality that gay people are still not treated as normal people in many places.

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So well said. And I see what you mean, about both sides of the coin.

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Perhaps that is the reason gay people exist in this time, to experience certain other-gender issues in a first-hand way.

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Interesting! So...gay people have always existed, I assume, but with society growing increasingly tolerant, they all (you all) are more of a force impacting society. Part of what this change might offer over time is increased acceptance of "weakness," ie sensitivity and the female-associated traits.

Meanwhile, women have both been getting tougher (joining the military in increasing numbers) and resuming the somewhat abandoned role of housewifery (especially with educated women choosing to stay home with their children in the early years.)

It's like this big swirl (spiral!) of aggression and gentility finding open expression across the gender spectrum.

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Saturn being in my 5th house, I have grown to feel very self-conscious and self-critical in recreational environments. In some cases the feeling can be petrifying.

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I'm sorry to hear that. My husband also has Saturn in the 5th and is similar. AND he has Leo Mars and
"takes issue with people who break off their loyalty." So I'm actually familiar with some of that..

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We can never destroy, only transform and if you don't exercise your Pluto eventually, face the mistakes which result from being unskillful with Pluto, and use those mistakes as learning markers, it will either explode out later, or follow you into your next life.

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Buddhist wisdom is not for the faint of heart. Then again, neither is real life. Will think some more about how I can wield Pluto in conversation.

Oh and I did think more about archetypes as holograms, as promised. This is what I came up with: what do you think about the idea that the objects surrounding us also live in us and and we live in them? There are fish inside of us...and we are inside fish. I mean the potential for a fish to be incarnated within, from the raw materials of our physical structure, exists, and therefore on some level our biology is incipiently pregnant with fish (and simultaneously post-fish, as we've eaten fish and been eaten by fish for millenia.) Likewise, the heavens contain infinite layers of potential fishness. Is that anything along the lines of what you were thinking?

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To my knowledge only one Monchichi made it out of the tree and into professional movie making... Taylor Lautner.

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OMG he does look like one! LOL

Hmmm....should I tell you my traumatic Monchichi memory or not, while we are on the subject? Yes or no...hmmm. Well you said you weren't skurd of darkness, so...yes. I'll tell you.

When I was little I wanted a Monchichi with all my heart and for once my poverty-stricken parents mustered the cash to make my materialistic dreams materialize. So I had this thing and loved it like it was my own flesh and blood child. Meanwhile my older brothers tried not to gag about how stupid the thing was. So I had to defend my Monchichi baby from these thugs who meant to harm it.

One day I came home and they had hung my Monchichi with a real noose and were taking turns batting at it, laughing like it was the best thing one could possibly do with their time. They actually destroyed it. It's the kind of thing that made me feel sick, worthless and hated. (As you observed from my chart, if people treat me like I am despicable, there is a tendency for me to adopt that as my own truth.) They resented me for taking it without a sense of humor...to this day, my Aries/Rooster brother (not Patrick, another Aries brother) marvels that I seem to have the impression that my childhood was rough and filled with brother trouble.

Time goes on and I see that my brothers were just being goofball pre-pubescent idiots, and I see how Monchichi is the kind of thing that would elicit revulsion in people, and so the memory changes into something almost harmless again. But I tell you this to give you a snapshot of my past and the kind of things that shaped me through "trial by fire." We all had this type of thing happen, our sacred cows trompled while we watched in horror. Just weird that mine involved a Monchichi.

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Finally the mystery has been solved! Never knew that was a panda before. Cute.

posted September 27, 2012 05:22 PM            

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Congratulations, Xiiro, on the birth of your new baby watermelon! Soooo cute! =)

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Yesterday, for the first time in four years, I saw a black bear. He ran across the road in front of us.

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LOL, sorry to hear it. Well, this is one of my favorite jokes, told to me by a fellow Capricorn

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You got any funky views on evolution while we're at it?

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He studied Sumerian civilization and came to the conclusion that Aliens came to Earth, genetically engineered humans by mixing their own DNA with the DNA of the most advanced hominid species, and used us as slaves. It sounds very far fetched, but there are an obscene amount of supporting factors which make the argument convincing.

Like:

1. To our knowledge Sumerian culture just appeared, there does not seem to be evidence of previous cultures leading up to Sumeria.

2. Unlike other animals, humans have evolved very poorly. Our eyes are not designed for night vision, our muscle/bone ratio is weak, we suffer congenital diseases which we should have evolved out of, our feet are poorly designed. There is a long list of evolutionary reasons why humans should not be alive.

3. The Sumerians knew about Pluto, Neptune, Uranus, and Saturn thousands of years before modern culture and even go so far as to describe those planets in impossible detail.

4. The Sumerian creation story gives a perfect explanation of why our planet and solar system are shaped the way they are.

Lots of reasons.

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In what way, if you don't mind my infinite series of questions?

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Oh, I've been figuratively reclining on your sofa for a long time now, sipping Refreshing Drink and dishing about whatever comes to mind... =)

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I cannot make sense of that question.

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It's like this big swirl (spiral!) of aggression and gentility finding open expression across the gender spectrum.

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My husband also has Saturn in the 5th and is similar. AND he has Leo Mars and
"takes issue with people who break off their loyalty."

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Will think some more about how I can wield Pluto in conversation.

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Pluto in the 3rd gives you the ability to communicate feelings via radiation. Learning to accept what you see in others, transmits them the coordinates for accepting their selves. No words, just ((squishings)).

See, told you the deeper I get to know you, the more I am able to personally evolve. My thanks =)

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Oh and I did think more about archetypes as holograms, as promised. This is what I came up with: what do you think about the idea that the objects surrounding us also live in us and and we live in them? There are fish inside of us...and we are inside fish. I mean the potential for a fish to be incarnated within, from the raw materials of our physical structure, exists, and therefore on some level our biology is incipiently pregnant with fish (and simultaneously post-fish, as we've eaten fish and been eaten by fish for millenia.) Likewise, the heavens contain infinite layers of potential fishness. Is that anything along the lines of what you were thinking?

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When I was little I wanted a Monchichi with all my heart and for once my poverty-stricken parents mustered the cash to make my materialistic dreams materialize....Just weird that mine involved a Monchichi.

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((HUG))

On behalf of Fire signs everywhere. Sometimes we are more passionate about our experiences, than capable of being observant. If your brother could have been in your shoes, he would have punched everyone involved, thrown a tantrum, and burned the favorite toy of all who lynched his Monchichi. I'm inclined to believe he wanted a Monchichi of his own...I think I am beginning to see his 2012 Christmas gift... Get this man a Monchichi...Stat! Boys are raised to believe that those feelings are bad, but the need for them never goes away.

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posted September 29, 2012 01:32 PM            

What's new with you? I'm sorry for the delay here; I've had a head cold and hectic family life lately, resulting in a harried/stupid feeling when I finally can get online. Now my husband has taken our three oldest kids out for a long hike..the leaves have changed color and it's perfect, misty weather out...so I only have my little ones distracting me every three minutes or so ("fix my train track, peel this orange, can we watch The Wiggles, where's my bear hat, I need it now, now, now, peez get off the 'puter and get it!")

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I planted morning glory among the watermelon, and the plant colors, leaf shape, and blossom colors look super cool together.

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Sounds beautiful! I love morning glories...they are the prettiest wild flowers I know (my weed book actually calls them a weed.) Down at my other house they are winding along the garden fence (as if by a miracle) and up here they are trellised along some roadside hedges. So graceful and happy.

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In Hawaii the main threats are wild pigs, wild chickens, mongoose, and feral domesticated pets (all of which were brought to the island by people). Most of the time a good fence will keep most of them out.

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Wild pigs in Hawaii?! Wow. *Googling*

Cute, but this is a big problem...I had no idea!

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The damage caused by pigs and goats in formerly pristine native areas has contributed greatly to Hawai’i having the highest number of endangered species in the U.S. Hawai’i has nearly 75% of the nation’s documented extinctions and 35% of all endangered species in the country.

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(Time passes as I read about wild pig hunting, wild pig eating...making a mental note that I have to overcome my slight prejudice against people who eat stuff like wild pigs, squirrels, coon & possum...and rave about the flavor.)

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the oh so clever Capricomedian says, "Oh about $2.50"

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I'm laughing, but more at the "oh so clever Capricomedian" phrase. LOL

I guess the context would have to be pretty distracting, though, to prevent the person from recognizing the phrase "apple pie cost." Wait-- don't tell me-- it's probably sexual. Especially if a Cap guy is telling the joke. (eye roll.)

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I like Zecharia Sitchin's perspective, some of it makes a lot of sense.

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Like I said, I was fighting off a head cold yesterday (and finally won, with the help of oregano oil and Airborne) and spent a convalescent hour trying to speed-learn about this and answer my most pressing questions: 1) Did Arthur Clark borrow from this idea when he wrote 2001, the beginning of which I have always loved, and 2) If Sumeria is first, what's that say about Atlantis? I want to believe Edgar Cayce was right about Atlantis, that's my "vested interest" in hoping it really existed. I'm no further ahead answering either question, but will probably keep investigating.

There are times when I very badly want something that I cannot have. When I was young, I desperately wanted...needed...to become a genie. Right now I very badly want to able to know everything Sitchin knew, and see things from his perspective. It's just super intriguing to me. Thanks for mentioning it.

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There is a long list of evolutionary reasons why humans should not be alive.

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Yeah, it's weird! Like, I would have thought people in the northern climates would evolve to have hair on their faces as protection against the cold. But Inuit men are almost never shown with beards. So I don't know what the story is. Does our intelligence shape our biology...could the Inuit have found beards a nuisance and wished them away over time? Some freakery of human life seems to suggest that we do shape our evolution: like the Rarámuri runners in Mexico with their exceptional endurance, and the biology to support their bionic beliefs, or the people who are inexplicably cold tolerant...etcetera.

As for the diseases, I always thought that was attributable to agrarian diets, too much migration, faulty food preservation...the consequences of "intelligence." Could also be old hexes.

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Our perspective of life and how it works is very limited in the shadow of our universe's vast complexity.

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Thank you for clarifying all that. I see what you mean now.

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* Offers you a plate * Cookie?

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LOL! So funny.

Yes...thank you, I'd love one.

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"What if at the center each object is a great gravitational force, drawing toward it experiences and perspectives. And our personalities, views, and opinions are just the data, circling the center of that force, waiting to be pulled apart, consumed, and replaced by different data"?

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Ohhh. So that gravitational force (or black hole) is the physical corollary to the history that is generated around the object containing the black hole? Something like that?

Maybe the Big Bang is like the "beginning of time" that is endlessly playing out while the black hole is the "end of time" endlessly playing out?

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I feel for him. Is his Mars also in the 5th? Mine is, and that helps a lot with combating an oppressive Saturn.

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I'm glad your Mars is there to kick Saturn's butt. My husband is much older than me, he's got 5H Sag Saturn (Scorpio NN also in the 5H), then he's got Mars-Pluto near the Leo-Virgo Cusp in the 2nd house. He also has Mercury at Virgo 1, sextile Neptune, (not conjunct as I mistakenly said before...sorry to bore you but I had to correct that.)

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Pluto being capable of perceiving the depth of others, doesn't mean it has to be put into words...Learning to accept what you see in others, transmits them the coordinates for accepting their selves. No words, just ((squishings)).

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Smiling. But that's what I think of you, and might have even said so first if I were that intelligent.

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See, told you the deeper I get to know you, the more I am able to personally evolve. My thanks =)

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Heartfelt ditto.

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This means that everything in our universe was at one time entangled and continues to be related with everything else at a subatomic scale.

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That makes more sense than anything I was ever taught in science class.

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((HUG)) ....On behalf of Fire signs everywhere. Sometimes we are more passionate about our experiences, than capable of being observant.

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*Loved the hug* Thank you...I never got consoled for that sucky experience before, maybe because it's a little weird to describe to people!

I see what you mean about fire signs getting caught up in their own passions. My mother was a Leo and a de facto accomplice in the Monchici murder because she always took my Aries/Rooster brother's side, I mean always. (While I'm b!tching about this, I will add that when my mother was accused of playing favorites, she never even felt the need to deny it. She thought it was honorable to tell the truth. Very eccentric she was.)

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I'm inclined to believe he wanted a Monchichi of his own...

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LOL!! OMG now that you mention it you are probably right! How'd you know that?

Years later he actually did ask for a Care Bear for Christmas, and did not care what anyone thought, he loved that thing. I guess he was...17? And, regardless of what one may think based on how I've portrayed him so far, he was actually very popular at school, could get away with absolutely anything. It's kind of strange that he settled down into a very normal, executive life, without much fame or glory (yet) because he was always brilliant. On the other hand, he does have a lot going for him.

Thanks for talking with me about random odd things, my toddlers tell me that they want to go swimming in the big bathtub now, and I have to change into more splash-proof attire because they like to throw everything in the air, and I am in the mood to let them. Full moon mayhem.

posted September 29, 2012 01:43 PM            

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Now can u imagine me, Capricorn Moon, Scorpio Venus...or shall I say, Detriment Feminine Planets?

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"The school of hard knocks is an accelerated curriculum."

-Menander of Athens

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Now can u imagine me, Capricorn Moon, Scorpio Venus...or shall I say, Detriment Feminine Planets? Together, I feel they can be expressed like this:

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"The school of hard knocks is an accelerated curriculum."

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I like the sound of that!

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Is it odd that I want to lick that tear? Oh Venus in Scorpio...always finding dark things yummy.

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I'm too distracted by how pretty she is lol!

Ahem; I once had a dream about aliens! They abducted me and I was betrothed to some sort of alien in power or something. I got to hang around in the palace place thing and appear before the masses and they put this little crystal on my forehead which extended into a rly cool crown. They were very tall, like seven feet, and kinda greyish blue. Very lean too. Human shaped with glowing yellow markings. Their clothes was the best part, tho, as the fabric looked and felt like glass, but moved and had the consistency of, well, fabric!

posted September 30, 2012 01:22 AM            

Please don't apologize for being delayed. At this point I admit to feeling a bit needy. I can only imagine my anxious anticipation to log on and see this thread updated, must transmit through the aether in some way. If you feel rushed or pressed, I apologize. The delay is actually good, because I have finally begun writing a book in my spare time. This conversation has helped me communicate some of the experiences which, prior to this point, were retained in feeling form. I dusted off the old notes of my astrology book and have been jotting down the rough version of a book on how I approach astrology.

It is often difficult for me to focus on writing for any long period of time, without getting completely bored with the desire to write. I am seeing more that part of my reason for joining LL was to practice writing and learn to approach writing in small bursts (this damned Mars in Leo is so high maintenance lol). Thank you for providing a space where I can spend hours enjoying writing.

If it's not too much to ask, I wonder if I could convince you to consider editing the book. I trust your honesty and feel you have a real skill for helping my Mercury take abstract concepts and formulate them into practical terms. A complete rough draft is waaay down the line, I just wanted to throw that out and see if the prospect interests you at all.

Today I locked down the parent's forest garden. The peacocks were not pleased. I had built up the walls, but the peacocks just flew over. After being fed up with their eating all my greens and tender sprouting plants, I added a grid of cords across the top of the garden. Hopefully they will discourage further peacock destruction. I also planted some papaya seeds today and tomorrow will add another pineapple, repair some of the herbal genocide waged by the local poultry and add a basil plant, and plant some of the lemon grass I have been slacking on planting.

PS: "Where's my bear hat?" is likely one of the best things I have read all day. It's something I would paint on a shirt. At least he said peez.

With out further adieu.

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Sounds beautiful! I love morning glories...they are the prettiest wild flowers I know (my weed book actually calls them a weed.) Down at my other house they are winding along the garden fence (as if by a miracle) and up here they are trellised along some roadside hedges. So graceful and happy.

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Cute, but this is a big problem...I had no idea!

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When trade ships started visiting Hawaii, they brought with them rats. The rats multiplied quickly in the cane fields, with no natural predators. In order to get rid of the rats, mongoose were introduced to Hawaii. Unfortunately mongoose are nocturnal and rats diurnal, so they overpopulated along with the rats. The mongoose proceeded to devour a majority of Hawaii's native birds, free to roam without natural predators. Of course stray pets and livestock also multiplied and because Hawaii is an ideal place for plant growth, many non-native plants became invasive too. Part of my farm will be devoted to endemic plant cultivation. I hope to have a bit of a nursery where people can purchase inexpensive plants which support the local ecosystem.

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If Sumeria is first, what's that say about Atlantis?

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When I was young, I desperately wanted...needed...to become a genie

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Between angels and humans, a single being was created. This being, known as the Alphaaltonai was subject to the service of God's will (like any angel), but capable of personalizing God's creative force. After the Alphaaltonai was created, God proceeded to create the Adam, avatar of personalized free will. Cast aside, the Alphaaltonai watched humanity with great envy for thousands of years until a young and gifted prince took notice.

The prince befriended the spirit and in exchange for occasional possession of his body, the prince's status among his family rose. As he grew, the prince chose to share his body with the spirit and thus became superhuman in strength and wisdom. Through wise counsel, the young prince guided his father's hand in creating a utopian society. Though he was the youngest among his father's children, the king eventually pushed his siblings aside to make way for the prince's succession.

Oddly enough, none of his siblings protested. This was especially true of the brother who would have succeeded the king, as he was only interested in royalty's sensual pleasures and happily handed over the responsibility. The grandmother of the older prince however, was insistent on her line's rise to power. Unsure of how to proceed, she visited a seer who discovered the prince was in symbiosis with a powerful otherworldly spirit, capable of incomprehensible feats. The seer devised a plan, telling the grandmother to bring the king's royal gauntlets. He told her a spell would be cast on the gauntlets, giving her the power to control the wearer's mind, thus allowing her to shift fate back into the hands of the oldest prince. In this culture a set of gauntlets, not a crown, were passed between monarchs. The symbol of the gauntlets were used to represent a monarch's bound service to their people.

The grandmother succeeded in bringing the gauntlets to the seer, but the days after the enchanted gauntlets were placed on the king's arms, he fell ill and died. Soon after the death of his father, the wise prince was made king. The longer he wore the gauntlets, the more he noticed scars forming on his wrists, in the shape of their designs. Enhanced by the spirit, the wisr king lived for many years after his ascension to the throne. The seer waited in the shadows though and eventually the wise king's soul died, leaving the spirit of the Alphaaltonai trapped, subdued, and shackled by the symbols burned into the wise king's arms. The seer then used the king to do his bidding indefinitely. When he talked to the wise king's body, the seer referred to him as "Djinn" meaning "concealed entity". The Alphaaltonai sought a way to escape its situation, but the seer was strong minded and clever. Many hundreds of years passed and the confinement of the Alphaaltonai rendered it so mad it could only function at the whim of the seer. Everyday a great hatred for the seer and his race multiplied until one day, while the Djinn was standing catatonic and casting a shadow over the seer's research, the seer mistakenly said something to the effect of, "Though I demand you at my side, I require very little between me and the sun's light". So the Djinn teleported with the seer to Mercury, where the seer was cooked in the light of the sun. The Djinn proceeded to live on Mercury and do all sorts of crazy crap, like creating duplicates, or other Djinni to play with. Even creating a contrary race called Eros, who inhabit the dark side of Mercury. The Eros are the embodied externalization of the Djinn's emptiness/void and are similar to succubi/incubi.

In the video game, our earth has been repeatedly destroyed and reinvented/repopulated by a remote and observing alien race (the human race returned from the distant future), seeking the most ideal path of evolution. A sun-worshiping tribe of cat based hominids on Mirion (formerly Earth), called Aelvs (not too original, I know) discovered the Djinn after opening a portal to Mercury (and scorching a molten canal into the Eastern Pole of Mirion. The Djinn however (still angry) tortured the Aelven explorers who traveled to Mercury, beyond all comprehension. Because they were a spiritual tribe, their minds were capable of transcending the experience and winning the respect of the Djinn. Upon their return and no longer in possession of bodies, the Tatsu (the torture victims) possessed a group of dragon statues, carved out of solid gemstone. They then transmitted their spirit to those of the tribe who volunteered and those people became part dragon. This was the beginning of how the Djinn became an interacting part of Mirion's solar system's society.

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Yeah, it's weird! Like, I would have thought people in the northern climates would evolve to have hair on their faces as protection against the cold...As for the diseases, I always thought that was attributable to agrarian diets, too much migration, faulty food preservation...the consequences of "intelligence." Could also be old hexes.

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Ohhh. So that gravitational force (or black hole) is the physical corollary to the history that is generated around the object containing the black hole? Something like that?

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My husband is much older than me, he's got 5H Sag Saturn (Scorpio NN also in the 5H), then he's got Mars-Pluto near the Leo-Virgo Cusp in the 2nd house. He also has Mercury at Virgo 1, sextile Neptune, (not conjunct as I mistakenly said before...sorry to bore you but I had to correct that.)

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posted September 30, 2012 01:25 AM            

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I think it was just a self indulgent dream because I was a mermaid before I got kidnapped (being out of water made me tail turn into legs lmao!)

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posted October 01, 2012 04:39 AM            

Xiiro, you know how you mentioned your AC progressing into Gemini? Well, mine's going into Libra May 7th, of 2017. I think I'm looking forward to that since it'll stay there 'til I die but there's another progression I'm looking forward to!

June 3rd, 2027! My progressed planets will be: Sun and Mercury in Sagittarius, Venus in Scorpio, Mars in Leo, Libra AC, and my Moon will progress into Aries that day. So FOUR whole fire signs plus a Libra Rising. Maybe the big extrovert that I really am will finally be able to express itself. Jupiter will also be in Sagittarius. But then again, I'll be like 33...maybe it'll be what I need after a Saturn return: lots of fire to kickstart my middle-aged life.

That gives me about two years to burn. January 8, 2029, my Mars will go from Leo to Virgo, the later on November 30th, Aries Moon to Taurus Moon. So maybe I'll run across the world then find a place to settle, and build a stable life to relax back in. Maybe I'll even get married during those years as my progressed Moon will be in the Seventh.

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Find your bear hat yet? =)

Hi Xiiro,

I'm sorry for the delay, and I'm sorry for apologizing for the delay.

It's just that we seem to have gotten into this rhythm of talking every day, and I don't like wasting your time checking the thread if I'm not there (and if RedScorp has disappeared, too!) It's the time wasting that bothers me more than anything, but I don't know how to resolve it. I agree that apologies seem uncalled for, given the loose structure of this "relationship," but expectations seem to arise naturally out of the pattern of communication. Also, I hope that whatever am projecting into the ether, driving this situation from my end, isn't bothering you. The conversation is riveting to me, and I gravitate toward intense mental experiences, so I've prioritized talking to you above other things. Even when I'm not writing, I think about this conversation a lot, mulling over ideas. Maybe you sense that. I can stop and see if it affects you...maybe my Neptune close to your sun does weird stuff, after all.

Will you tell me what's making you feel needy? Can I squish you, I don't like thinking of you all worried. (Hug!)

Is it mainly about Hawaii? That does seem like a huge, daunting project, moving there and homesteading.

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The delay is actually good, because I have finally begun writing a book in my spare time.

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Hooray about the book!!! Let me know what works for you: would you like to pause this conversation to give yourself more time?

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I am seeing more that part of my reason for joining LL was to practice writing and learn to approach writing in small bursts (this damned Mars in Leo is so high maintenance lol). Thank you for providing a space where I can spend hours enjoying writing.

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It's my pleasure. I am just a little baffled that you are just "practicing" writing here, when I consider you the best writer at this site (no offense intended to anyone else reading.) I figured that you write a lot, all the time.You might not believe this, but my instant reaction to the first comment of yours that I read here was, "WHOA that person is brilliant. I wonder if I can get him or her to talk to me more?" =) And you are the only person here that I reacted to like that.

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If it's not too much to ask, I wonder if I could convince you to consider editing the book.

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*squeal* YES! Thank you for asking, I'd love that! Let me know how you want to proceed.

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...you have a real skill for helping my Mercury take abstract concepts and formulate them into practical terms.

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You usually formulate everything into practical terms straight away, but if you happen to say something that I think the average reader (like me) will have to strain to understand, I can let you know. I'm just a little apprehensive about letting you down in some way....but we have good communication, and can talk through the process. If I'm doing it wrong, I trust you to tell me. (Gently, please, like the Japanese do it..."Most honorable worker, your talents are far too great for our humble project, we must release you to your higher destiny...") hehehe kidding

Anyway, I'm really excited about the project!

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Today I locked down the parent's forest garden. The peacocks were not pleased. I had built up the walls, but the peacocks just flew over.

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I'm sorry to hear they've been hassling you, but I am very enchanted by peacocks, in love with their colors, and that's sooo pretty to imagine...do the peacocks walk over top of the garden now, by any chance? *daydreaming about peacocks seeming to walk on air* Feel free to ignore my usual barrage of questions...Aquarius Mercury is high maintenance, too!

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My mother begged that I add them to the garden (I wanted only edible plants), but I caved and bought seeds for a scarlet verity (her favorite color...Moon in Aries anyone?).

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LOL, that does seem like THE Aries moon color. And the fact that she was pushing you to put something in for her also seems a little Aries moon-ish to me.

My progressed moon is in Aries (RedScorp has me thinking of progressions) but I am still more a fan of the white and blue (reminiscent of water) morning glories. Pisces moon prevails.

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My herbology professor brought the seeds to class one day for us to try (come to think of it, he also brought coca leaves for us to chew...I have a feeling school administration wasn't aware).

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OMG! I'd love to try that sometime. Did it have any effect on you? I didn't know you took an herbology course, that's great. Was this the same school where you learned massage?

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Part of my farm will be devoted to endemic plant cultivation. I hope to have a bit of a nursery where people can purchase inexpensive plants which support the local ecosystem.

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I love this idea and admire you for it.

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...but I am pretty convinced, with relatively recent research done regarding the Minoan island of Thera, that Atlantis was not the island New Age people have made it out to be.

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So you think Atlantis was Minoan, maybe? Hmm!

My Scorpio brother and his first wife went to Santorini for their honeymoon, and for the longest time, I had the postcard that they sent our family from there on my nightstand. Actually, it's probably still in the nightstand drawer. But the picture is beautiful and the place is very odd to me. If there's an Atlantis connection I will go right ahead and think that I subconsciously knew it all along, hence my curious affection for that postcard. =)

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Damn you 6th House... "When I grow up, I wanna be a metaphysically bound slave".

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LOL, it's kind of whacked out, but think of how fun it would be, living in a bottle and making weird stuff happen.

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I designed a video game which I never had a chance to submit to my old company....Between angels and humans, a single being was created.

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Sorry to interject right away but I was thinking about humans and angels intermingling and wondered if modern day mediums might be part of that "race." ? Had to blurt that out...now back to the story!

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The grandmother of the older prince however, was insistent on her line's rise to power. Unsure of how to proceed, she visited a seer who discovered the prince was in symbiosis with a powerful otherworldly spirit, capable of incomprehensible feats.

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That is so cool.

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In this culture a set of gauntlets, not a crown, were passed between monarchs.

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Let me just say that gauntlets are hot.

And men look better in gauntlets than crowns....agreed? =)

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The seer then used the king to do his bidding indefinitely.

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What happened to the grandmother who originally had the power...I guess she died? I like how the Alphaaltonai got stuck in the branded symbols on the king's arm. Where do you come up with this stuff??

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So the Djinn teleported with the seer to Mercury, where the seer was cooked in the light of the sun.

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I love this, I love escape stories. Glad the Djinn wasn't so catatonic that he missed his chance.

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The Djinn proceeded to live on Mercury and do all sorts of crazy crap, like creating duplicates, or other Djinni to play with. Even creating a contrary race called Eros, who inhabit the dark side of Mercury. The Eros are the embodied externalization of the Djinn's emptiness/void and are similar to succubi/incubi.

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So fun. What are succubi/incubi, however?

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In the video game, our earth has been repeatedly destroyed and reinvented/repopulated by a remote and observing alien race (the human race returned from the distant future), seeking the most ideal path of evolution.

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I wonder if that's not a prophecy.

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A sun-worshiping tribe of cat based hominids on Mirion (formerly Earth), called Aelvs (not too original, I know) discovered the Djinn after opening a portal to Mercury (and scorching a molten canal into the Eastern Pole of Mirion.

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Well, I just love all of that. Love it. Thank you for telling me the story.

Need to watch some of these videos and get back to you later. The first one about human evolution looks good, I like the guy's authoritative mannerisms, lends an air of credibility and makes me feel like my brain is in good hands while I watch.

Hope your Monday is beautiful.

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June 3rd, 2027! My progressed planets will be:...(I just obsessed over progressions and really researched mine for a good two or three hours, don't judge)

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My Venus is going to stay in Scorpio for my entire life, though, so I think I'll always have that quiet, dark, and desire-driven part of me that keeps things behind a veil unless I want otherwise.

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posted October 01, 2012 07:47 PM            

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Find your bear hat yet? =)

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It's the time wasting that bothers me more than anything

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I hope that whatever am projecting into the ether, driving this situation from my end, isn't bothering you.

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Will you tell me what's making you feel needy?

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I think the neediness arises out of wanting to revisit that ease of communication and explore someone's world without having to project. You have done me a great service by appealing to my Leonine nature. I feel accepted by you and therefor feel no guilt for sounding vulnerable or sharing my personal experiences.

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would you like to pause this conversation to give yourself more time?

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I am just a little baffled that you are just "practicing" writing here, when I consider you the best writer at this site (no offense intended to anyone else reading.)

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*squeal* YES! Thank you for asking, I'd love that! Let me know how you want to proceed.

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I'm just a little apprehensive about letting you down in some way....but we have good communication, and can talk through the process. If I'm doing it wrong, I trust you to tell me.

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This is all pretty far down the road though, so please just toss the idea to the side for now. =)

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do the peacocks walk over top of the garden now, by any chance?

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When my parents got their first peacock, my nephew named it Kevin; an homage to the movie UP. Kevin turned out to be female (ironically enough), so when they purchases another female and a male later, I named the male Martha and the Female Steve. I have decided the next peacock will be called Peabody, hopefully it will be an Albino Peacock.

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the fact that she was pushing you to put something in for her also seems a little Aries moon-ish to me.

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She keeps finding pretty non-edible plants and trying to put them in the garden. Then she tries to give me a guilt trip when I tell her she is welcome to plant them anywhere on her property BUT the forest garden (mind you she owns a big property and two raised beds, each the size of my one garden), but she doesn't want them other places, she wants them in the forest garden.

We have had this talk, I have explained how her Moon causes her to just grab candy off the shelf and feel like she actually NEEDS the candy, without consideration for health, sanity, or sustainability. You can't make any progress telling a kid they are acting like a kid though. So I just add her to the list of annoying pests which bother the garden.

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Did it have any effect on you? I didn't know you took an herbology course, that's great. Was this the same school where you learned massage?

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Different Massage Styles:
Swedish
Tui Na
Shiatsu
Reflexology
Structural Alignment (Deep Tissue)
Thai Massage
Sports Massage
Hawaiian Massage (Lomi Lomi)

Technical Subjects:
Anatomy
Physiology
Kinesiology
Functional Anatomy
Nutrition
Herbology
Body Wraps and Hydrotherapy
Spa Management

Psychological & Esoteric Subjects:
Hypnotherapy
Energy Work Basics
Jin Shin
Reiki
Craniosacral Therapy

Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. It was a lot of fun.

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If there's an Atlantis connection I will go right ahead and think that I subconsciously knew it all along, hence my curious affection for that postcard. =)

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I was thinking about humans and angels intermingling and wondered if modern day mediums might be part of that "race." ?

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And men look better in gauntlets than crowns....agreed? =)

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What happened to the grandmother who originally had the power...I guess she died? I like how the Alphaaltonai got stuck in the branded symbols on the king's arm. Where do you come up with this stuff??

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I have Mars in the 5th, This stuff just bubbles up from inside me. Creativity is something I rarely run out of (knock on wood).

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So fun. What are succubi/incubi, however?

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In battle, the more heated and gruesome the battle gets, the stronger and more powerful the Eros can cause her friends to become.

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I wonder if that's not a prophecy.

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The first one about human evolution looks good, I like the guy's authoritative mannerisms, lends an air of credibility and makes me feel like my brain is in good hands while I watch.

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I know, right? I kept catching my self wondering why I was watching a presentation about bigfoot, and it all came back to how enjoyable this guys is as a presenter.

I hope your Monday is enjoyable as well.

posted October 02, 2012 05:34 PM            

Got insulin? =)

Fuzzy pic of my four year-old, taken a few hours ago. He's the one who was nagging me for his bear hat, not Sam (featured in earlier post.)

Hi Xiiro,

Thank you for this post, I really enjoyed reading this and I am still glowing from staring at those white peacocks for a long time. Amazing!

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I will do as you say, but you'll have to pardon me if I tell you in advance that I will be offline for a while (as will be the case in a few days when my family is headed to Annapolis for the boat show) or if I apologize for vanishing for several days in a row. Again, it's just the pattern that I find myself in.

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I think it may be the lack of exciting conversation in my offline life. Mars IS my Chart Ruler and Lord of Geniture, so I thrive on our ongoing experience exchange. I live vicariously through your forest-mommy adventures.

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Good, real live conversation seems scarce these days (well, as I define "good," anyway.) But I'm glad to hear you are thriving along with me here. And I like living vicariously through your gardening adventures, too. (And post-facelift rescue operations, and mischievously selling-friend's-parent's-estate capers, and preparing for battle with Hawaiian hogs!)

This gives you another glimpse into my world: view from my balcony, taken a few days ago as a storm was rolling in from the west. The hills in the distance are called the Endless Mountains even though they are hills, and they end.

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Thank you...I suppose everyone is, but I think I see how this applies to me especially, because of the Cap exoskeleton/shell and the Pisces inside. Comparing people to seashells reminds me a bit of this painting, "Chambered Nautilus," by Andrew Wyeth.

This painting here

I would like to talk about that a little. The painting is of Wyeth's mother-in-law, whom he likened to a chambered nautilus, for all her depth, and her manner of unwinding and revealing her true nature bit by bit. Strangely, Wyeth fell in love with her while she was dying, and he painted this portrait of her on her deathbed. He was a Cancer/Snake whose wife somehow tolerated his numerous affairs, including his open obsession with her mother. Part of the reason the painting is meaningful to me is, my parents had another Wyeth print at our house growing up, and I got into his art again as an Art minor in college. Turns out Wyeth is from the area I moved to when I married my husband, (who met the artist on numerous occasions), and I still pass his grand, elusive home quite a bit. I spend a few happy hours each year at the local gallery, in the company of his paintings and those of his father and son. Wyeth is my oldest's middle name.

And come to think of it...seashell is also part of the lexigram to my name. You intuit much.

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Yes. Really, your perception bugs me out a little, it's so uncannily on the mark.

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I feel our barter is a very fulfilling one, me with my inner thoughts and you with your inner feelings.

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If I didn't know that you a gay man simply alluding to your Virgo moon and my Pisces moon, I'd think this was a flashback to Victorian England: "I'm the guy, so I'll do all the thinking. You can just sit there and feel stuff."

LOL =)

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I feel accepted by you and therefore feel no guilt for sounding vulnerable or sharing my personal experiences.

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Thank you, I'm glad you realize how much you are accepted by me, and how basically "anything goes" with this conversation, as far as I'm concerned.

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Is this like the skinniest kid at Fat Camp? LOL

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ROTFL! No! Actually, I think there are a lot of smart people here. You have to have some brains to realize astrology is worthwhile, and then delve into it. Plus you have to be able to count. So that winnows out most of the population and leaves our precious multitude here.

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...and pride demands that you emphasize your point by showcasing how fallible your spelling is? =) hehehe Sorry to be a smart *ss, I couldn't help it!

Reject whatever you want, my friend... whatever floats your boat...but I want you to know that what I said was sincere. It was a true telling of an experience that I had, making a snap judgement about your writing and then happily finding out, over the course of several months, that the genius I glimpsed is even bigger and brighter than I first caught onto. My first impression of your writing had me thinking that you would make a phenomenal conversationalist and be someone I'd like to talk to for days on end. And here we are talking, and here I am with my socks permanently knocked off. Sooo my inner lioness >^.^< is pleased about her sharp instincts and fondly petting her own mane right now.... regardless of how you take my compliments!

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I named the male Martha and the Female Steve.

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LOL about space turkeys. Well, those are good names. I used to have a girl cat named Buster.

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It's a bit like fighting a punching bag, shoot it down and it springs right back.

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You've got me wondering if Cancers are prone to being territorial like that. Like, if they need to take over other people's space? Because my crazy sister used to park in my best friend's driveway on purpose (she grew up next door to me), and she even deliberately made this landscape wall to trespass on my friend/neighbor's property. Meanwhile she took over my father's house completely.

And my German friend's Cancer mother does some weird stuff like that, too.

Anyway...I feel for you. I'm very sorry you have to go through that. I'm almost relieved, now, that I haven't talked to my sister in three years, because she inflicted so much craziness on me.

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I found the documentary! LOL you have like a week's worth of youtube to watch.

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Ok, thanks! I'm plucking away at the video list, 'spent a half hour with the persuasive Mr. Pye this morning, but had to punctuate the lecture with various "intermissions," like listening to music on YouTube, browsing People magazine's site, and making crescent rolls out of a can for my little people. Such a healthy breakfast, I know! Sighh...but they really love those things. Probably the shape; kids go berserk for funny-shaped food. If it's electric blue, so much the better.

Usually I cook for breakfast and it's often something healthier than canned biscuits. Like the other day I made these whole-grain cookies that were almost like meal bars because of all the good ingredients...I know this health nut guy in California who makes cookies with white chocolate chips and dried cherries, so I actually tried that the other day and they were supremely yummy!

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...Wait, why am I talking about that though? I was supposed to be addressing Cro-Magnon man. Yeah...he actually looks like a puny-faced embarrassment compared to these big-headed Neanderthals. But I've been really interested in giants lately so this lecture and your link to the Nephilim wiki article are very well-timed. Not surprised. You're still psychic.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Why Faith, it appears your Leo side is showing. Given away by your interest in man-slave apparel. hehe

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Ha! *Blush* Actually, I think my Gemini Mars is showing...I seem to have this inordinate interest in men's hands and forearms. (((Shhhh....don't tell anyone.)))

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I have Mars in the 5th, This stuff just bubbles up from inside me. Creativity is something I rarely run out of (knock on wood).

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Holy sh*t, that is great stuff! I'm jealous.

Time for me to finish up this beef stew I am making (I know...poor cows...but it's organic, free-range, grass-fed beef) and call my family in from the woods for dinner. They have built a fire out there (my husband did) and are roasting marshmallows, and literally swinging from trees, and taking shelter in this fort they built from twigs (hoping the big bad wolf doesn't come blow it down.)

We are headed down to our other house tomorrow, so next time I talk to you, I'll be in suburbia again. Like a wrinkle in the space-time.

Wishing you peace & happiness, as always.

<3